I've had my machine for a few months now and I really enjoy it, I find it very user-friendly and easily modifiable and customizable, I've done a few things to mine, I've made a couple of videos and put them on my channel to show what I've done, thanks for taking the time to do the video 😊👍🏻
Just got my machine. After watching several videos folks seem to have a problem with thread going through the holes to wind bobbin, or thread needle...I believe a solution to this is a bit of beeswax. Dritz sells beeswax in a holder to assists seamstresses with a similar issue. Just FYI. Thank you for some of your other solutions and videos.
Awesome video!! I load my bobbin similar to the way you're doing it, except I use one of my tension disks to keep the thread tight. Keep up the good videos!!
hello I find it much easier to time the bobbin from the 12 :00 o-clock position, then the bobbin loads in at 3:00 o-clock position . works like a charm i also use a curved dental pik to remove either the bobbin or the shuttle. studon
I enjoyed the video. Yet, I'm still frustrated. I will try to use the proper terms. I made sure the crank nob is at 12 o'clock, and made sure the bobbin holder's back wall is facing right. I put the bobbin thread through the first hole closest to the spring. I pulled the thread through the top hole that is lined up with the bottom hole. I got the thread behind the spread. I tested the bobbin shuttle and the end of that bobbin gear is flush with that hole on the left of the bobbin shuttle when the crack nob is at 3 o'clock. That vertical thread shaft top is at 1/4 inch protruding out the top. I sanded all the bobbins, bobbin holder, and shuttle area. On the hand crank, I made sure bobbin shuttle notch is in the middle grove, and the other gear notch is in the outer grove. I made sure that little notch in the middle is lined up with that small notch on the hand crank. So here is what happens when I crank the machine to pick up the bobbin thread. The bobbin thread is not moving so the needle could pick it up. So I removed the bobbin cover and test cracked it. The bobbin is moving properly. I put the cover back on and held the bobbin with a little tension. The thread is moving but still not picking up. I'm clueless.
This may be that one stupid thing I learned later. Make sure your needle goes down far enough. Crank until needle is at lowest position and then carefully slide finger under the bobbin area. If you don’t feel the tip of the needle down there, then the bobbin won’t catch the thread at the correct location.
Hello. Perhaps you can help. I bought the Chinese shoe patch machine in October of 2022. I spent a month watching videos, etc. For some reason I could not get the machine to pick up the bobbin thread. So frustrated I put in the closet for a year. Pulled it out recently, and finally fixed the bobbin thread issue. Once the bobbin pickup worked, then I had an issue of the upper thread breaking. Watched some more videos, and did some intense sanding of all the bobbin parts. That stopped the breaking. Now, the thread is too loose. Before I just immediately tighten the bobbin spring, can you tell what would be causing the bottom thread to be too loose on my finished tests?
The bottom thread being loose is due to the tension spring on the bobbin case. The tension you want is such as that you have to pull with a bit of force if you pull with just your fingertips. If that is too loose, then you will need to tighten more or use the other hole on the case. (look up, thread tension diagram for sewing) That image will tell you if the tension issue is the top, or bottom. One thing that I want you to review... thread thickness vs. needle eye. This machine can use thicker thread but you will want to get the needle that has a larger eye so that it will work. Also make sure that you are installing the thread in the correct direction because that will be the first thing that will break your top thread. Lastly, for a more active group and lots of modifications, join the Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/1646031288779869 They will be your best resource, as they have been active for a long time and you can search most of your questions there and get faster answers. I will try to do another video on the tension in the future. Good Luck and happy crafting!
So I've seen several of these machines on youtube. Some have two thread tensioners for the top thread and others only have one. Your machine looks like the one I have with only one top thread tensioner. Do you find the single tensioner to be adequate?
I only know that I have had no problems with it the way it is. From what I’ve come to understand you would only need the second one if you are using very thin thread. As I try to use heavy weight upholstery thread, I find the biggest issue is that there is less thread in the bobbin as it is small.
Depends! I mainly use heavy weight polyester for coats. This allows for almost any of the standard needles to be used. You will need to make adjustments if you want heavier threads. Mainly, the bobbin is SMALL, and you will not get a lot on there, and the needle will need a bigger eye to accommodate.
I found a bobbin winder upgrade kit for the China patcher on ebay. I fixes the wobbly wheel and bobbin and it put the tread evenly on the bobbin, with out having to use your fingers. Oh and the bobbin is held in place with a wing nut
the limiting factor as far as the thread is the close fitting bobbin carrier, if you want to use thread thicker than that supplied by the manufacturer when you buy the machine you will have to ease the bobbin carrier with a bit of emery paper and round off the lower edge there isn´t a lot of metal to play with but these are patcher machines not made for thick thread
Maybe you could take the tapered screw and put it in a cordless drill and wind the bobbin that way. I’m no rocket scientist or anything, I’m just saying...
YES, that is another great way to do that. There is an accessory that can be bought on ebay I believe, that can replace this extremely cheap winder with something better. I may even go as far as figuring out what and how much and design a 3D printed version!
I've had my machine for a few months now and I really enjoy it, I find it very user-friendly and easily modifiable and customizable, I've done a few things to mine, I've made a couple of videos and put them on my channel to show what I've done, thanks for taking the time to do the video 😊👍🏻
Just got my machine. After watching several videos folks seem to have a problem with thread going through the holes to wind bobbin, or thread needle...I believe a solution to this is a bit of beeswax. Dritz sells beeswax in a holder to assists seamstresses with a similar issue. Just FYI. Thank you for some of your other solutions and videos.
Thanks for sharing
Awesome video!! I load my bobbin similar to the way you're doing it, except I use one of my tension disks to keep the thread tight. Keep up the good videos!!
hello I find it much easier to time the bobbin from the 12 :00 o-clock position, then the bobbin loads in at 3:00 o-clock position . works like a charm i also use a curved dental pik to remove either the bobbin or the shuttle. studon
I enjoyed the video. Yet, I'm still frustrated. I will try to use the proper terms. I made sure the crank nob is at 12 o'clock, and made sure the bobbin holder's back wall is facing right. I put the bobbin thread through the first hole closest to the spring. I pulled the thread through the top hole that is lined up with the bottom hole. I got the thread behind the spread. I tested the bobbin shuttle and the end of that bobbin gear is flush with that hole on the left of the bobbin shuttle when the crack nob is at 3 o'clock. That vertical thread shaft top is at 1/4 inch protruding out the top. I sanded all the bobbins, bobbin holder, and shuttle area. On the hand crank, I made sure bobbin shuttle notch is in the middle grove, and the other gear notch is in the outer grove. I made sure that little notch in the middle is lined up with that small notch on the hand crank. So here is what happens when I crank the machine to pick up the bobbin thread. The bobbin thread is not moving so the needle could pick it up. So I removed the bobbin cover and test cracked it. The bobbin is moving properly. I put the cover back on and held the bobbin with a little tension. The thread is moving but still not picking up. I'm clueless.
This may be that one stupid thing I learned later. Make sure your needle goes down far enough. Crank until needle is at lowest position and then carefully slide finger under the bobbin area. If you don’t feel the tip of the needle down there, then the bobbin won’t catch the thread at the correct location.
@@BrassrootsLeather Thanks. I will try that and maybe use a real leather sewing machine needle. Thanks so much.
Hello. Perhaps you can help. I bought the Chinese shoe patch machine in October of 2022. I spent a month watching videos, etc. For some reason I could not get the machine to pick up the bobbin thread. So frustrated I put in the closet for a year. Pulled it out recently, and finally fixed the bobbin thread issue. Once the bobbin pickup worked, then I had an issue of the upper thread breaking. Watched some more videos, and did some intense sanding of all the bobbin parts. That stopped the breaking. Now, the thread is too loose. Before I just immediately tighten the bobbin spring, can you tell what would be causing the bottom thread to be too loose on my finished tests?
The bottom thread being loose is due to the tension spring on the bobbin case. The tension you want is such as that you have to pull with a bit of force if you pull with just your fingertips. If that is too loose, then you will need to tighten more or use the other hole on the case. (look up, thread tension diagram for sewing) That image will tell you if the tension issue is the top, or bottom.
One thing that I want you to review... thread thickness vs. needle eye. This machine can use thicker thread but you will want to get the needle that has a larger eye so that it will work. Also make sure that you are installing the thread in the correct direction because that will be the first thing that will break your top thread.
Lastly, for a more active group and lots of modifications, join the Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/1646031288779869
They will be your best resource, as they have been active for a long time and you can search most of your questions there and get faster answers.
I will try to do another video on the tension in the future. Good Luck and happy crafting!
So I've seen several of these machines on youtube. Some have two thread tensioners for the top thread and others only have one. Your machine looks like the one I have with only one top thread tensioner. Do you find the single tensioner to be adequate?
I only know that I have had no problems with it the way it is. From what I’ve come to understand you would only need the second one if you are using very thin thread.
As I try to use heavy weight upholstery thread, I find the biggest issue is that there is less thread in the bobbin as it is small.
Hi there! thanks for the video. What type of thread is the best for sewing leather on the Chinese machine and which needle.
Depends!
I mainly use heavy weight polyester for coats. This allows for almost any of the standard needles to be used. You will need to make adjustments if you want heavier threads. Mainly, the bobbin is SMALL, and you will not get a lot on there, and the needle will need a bigger eye to accommodate.
I found a bobbin winder upgrade kit for the China patcher on ebay. I fixes the wobbly wheel and bobbin and it put the tread evenly on the bobbin, with out having to use your fingers. Oh and the bobbin is held in place with a wing nut
Katie Devin Please...provide a link! Don’t keep secrets like that!
What's the largest needle and thread it will take?
I will get back to you on that. It is something I need to experiment with also.
I have used a 22 with no problems
the limiting factor as far as the thread is the close fitting bobbin carrier, if you want to use thread thicker than that supplied by the manufacturer when you buy the machine you will have to ease the bobbin carrier with a bit of emery paper and round off the lower edge there isn´t a lot of metal to play with but these are patcher machines not made for thick thread
Please tell me where to get this machine in Bangladesh and how much money
I don't know.
Maybe you could take the tapered screw and put it in a cordless drill and wind the bobbin that way. I’m no rocket scientist or anything, I’m just saying...
YES, that is another great way to do that. There is an accessory that can be bought on ebay I believe, that can replace this extremely cheap winder with something better. I may even go as far as figuring out what and how much and design a 3D printed version!
@@BrassrootsLeather Patcher Solutions (Proven DIY) check it out
Bravi
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