"I can't see a way out of this!" | O'Hara and Bothroyd pick apart Man Utd struggles
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Jamie O'Hara and Jay Bothroyd discuss the problems at Manchester United and the future of Erik ten Hag.
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An agenda against Rashford? Are you nuts! Rashford hasn’t performed for a whole season and Ten Hag starts him every game over garnacho. He subbed Rashford in one game and all of a sudden he’s got an agenda against him? Absolute plonkers this lot
there is an agenda especially from some fans...
is amad cooking? garnacho? zirkzee? who's scoring goals in this front line? no one.
rashford had already laid 5 big chances for tms that have been missed. he's does more tracking and work than he's ever done before and his g/a is comparable if not slightly better than the others...and he's the only 1 with a proven record... yet somehow just rashford is getting blamed.
@@vkdeen7570 I believe he was talking about an agenda from ten hag in the video. None of our players are cooking man you’re not wrong there
@darrenyeadon9033 ten hag has backed rashford a lot tho.... unless there's something going on in training or it eas specifically for not tracking back vs Porto
there's more agenda from media and some fans against rashford and it's pretty disgusting
Well said, mate. These media pundits are the ones killing ETH. They get in his head. Never let him be for once.
@@vkdeen7570Rashford is on Ronaldo type money 😅 for what ? Of course its not solely his fault but we see now he's just a hype job thats eligible for the England shirt
Ever since Anthony did a 360 on the pitch with no one around giving a F, we have been in the shits. I blame everything on Anthony 🤣
😅
Don't forget who brought Antony to OT.
As a Liverpool fan I must admit that Seven Hag is our club legend. Legends can be sacked but their legacy can never end.
You lot are always seem more obsessed with Man United than focusing on your own club. I guess the pain of the Fergie era is still causing salty bitter tears in 2024. Man United may be playing poor but it doesn't pay to gloat. It's early in the season for Liverpool and Man United will return to success at some stage, even if it's not 2025. Took you lot decades to win one Premiership despite some recent success. You're doing well so focus on that if you're a proper fan.
@@fmulleady You sounds triggered + Liverpool is still the most successful club in England and they are too busy looking up to be looking own on your fails lol.
@@CornwallGhosts why are Liverpool fans posting on a Sky article about Man United? If you were 'looking up', you would be focused elsewhere. You haven't won anything yet and won nothing last season lol! It's too far too early to gloat.
@@CornwallGhosts you're definitely delusional if you believe Liverpool are better than Man City or Arsenal lol!
@fmulleady he never said we're better right now, he said most successful team in England. Take a quick history lesson in English and European football then try again 😂😂
They'll sack Ten Hag, appoint someone like Southgate, Tuchel or Potter and the cycle will repeat itself... How many ex Ajax players have they signed to fit Ten Hag's football style... then they're going to sack him and bring a bloke in who wont want those players... mental...
De Ligt , Mazraoui , Martinez , Antony , Onana , Eriksen ... so , 6 ?
@@tk80mufa5 be generous and say they might get some money for De Ligt, Martinez and Antony, how much of a loss do you reckon they make on that group as well as all the other players they buy
@@karlm641 great question , but honestly too difficult for me to assess...
Btw i forgot *van de Beek* - even though he came in before ETH took over MUFC , and is already out , but technically would count as player number 7 ( he was part of that Ajax 2019 team ) and i might have forgotten others ?!
Anyway back to your question : the thing is , players that have been just brought in , should not be immediately sold.
I mean , if you add all these players up : potentially over 150 million GBP lost/written off? If not more.... I need to double check.... look at what happened with Sancho..... maybe that's a reference point.....
I am not an expert , accountant or anything , but like G.Neville said apparently the UEFA Financial Fair Play rules are being tightened , leading to a kind of team salary cap tied to each's club individual revenue...
So selling De Light & Mazraoui would not be a good idea , unless some Saudi club wants them ( especially Mazraoui ).
And i can tell you , even though it all looks like a mess right now , not all of these players are duds.
I can remember good games from De Light & Mazraoui for Bayern last season in UCL , so i don't even know how they were allowed to leave Munich.
Keep in mind they were starters at Bayern in the semis IIRC...
Martinez seemed to have had injury problems.
Onana i would try to get rid off , if for a potential ban incoming ( like Pogba ) alone.
Antony is a case of coming from the favelas to the biggest club in England and therefore the richest most competitive football league in the world... his head is clearly not in the right space.
I feel a great man-manager with empathy , psychological skills & patience could get him back to being a great creative player. His case reminds me of Sancho.
All in all the problem is simply this : ManUtd would take huge losses on each player , maybe at least 50% each , and they have astronomical wages , there is basically no market for them. Only the Premier League or Saudi League.
But look at the Premier League - there is at least 6 - maybe even 8 - clubs who might finish in front of United ... why would they buy out of form players with huge wages ?
Real Madrid seems quite content & well set up , Barcelona has no money , neither do the Italians , PSG ? Don't think so.....
The best option , going back to your initial well made comment : this is ETH's team , they fullfilled his wishlist , so it is up to him to make it happen & initiate the turnaround.
This is like a textbook example of what not do in terms of catering to the wishes of one single guy within an organization ... i can only hope for United that they somehow start getting those mirage wins and start going on a streak ASAP.
But then you listen to ETH , you look at the guy , never seen a more stubborn bloke in that position.
To me he makes Van Gaal & Mourinho look like good guys to hang out with.
And i might add : for a Dutch guy , his English skills and communication is not even on the level of a 4th tier league team coach to be honest. I was shocked at the beginning , ...... and i am still in shock.
And maybe i shouldn't say this as a German , but whoever hired him , should have listened to his gut feeling , which was undoubtedly similar to mine : this is a bad idea , just on public speaking skills alone!
One of those things were you have your first day or first 10 minutes of something new you are starting and have planned out nicely , like going to study a certain major at university , first day , only then within the first few minutes you get this extreme level of dread and anxiety , realize you made a colossal error of judgement to immediately turn around , walk out & quit right then and there. But the British manners & niceness probably worked against oneself (?)( that how you would say it?) in this case ( assuming the guy responsible for ETH is a Brit )
Sorry for the rambling rant!
I really need to go to bed now.
But was fun chatting to you , even though i can't definitively answer your question and still hope for the best.
Btw , if they DO replace ETH , i would caution against Tuchel ( as if anyone would listen to me ha ).
I mean unlike ETH he has coached two clubs to a UCL final and a third to a UCL semi ( with a dodgy ref ending ) - but the guy is very nutty and ...... a certain kind of exhausting , no doubt about it.
Anyway , good night to the British isles! 👋✌
Eras come to an end. United used to be that club, they’re not anymore. Not sure why people think they should be top? Clubs come and go, United is just an average PL team now. Just treat it that way
Comment of the day!
Will it be the end of the media putting them on a pedestal. Calling them United. When there are a LOAD of clubs who were United WAY before them. They're bang avarage.
United shows no progress at all. Just the same awful, boring, average-at-best football with no identity. Ten Hag has been there for more than 2 years, was backed by the board more than ANY other coach after Ferguson, bought players he wanted, and in fact many of them he worked with previously at Ajax. The problem with footballing analysis is often that people& media want to put the blame entirely on one side: either the players or the coach is a guilty party, while the truth is, in football, when smth is as bad and toxic as current United, it's all sides, both sides are the problem! The fact is that United has average players not good enough to win anything in modern EPL, and they have a coach who is out of his depth, period! Both sides are the problem! You can talk of Ten Hag needing more time, but the brutal truth is we don't live in the young Ferguson era when coaches had all the time in the world, modern football is way more brutal and the results are expected immediately, and besides, a lot of this is Ten Hag's fault, he is not capable of implementing his vision & his idea of football on the pitch, with this team.
Sorry but Cristiano talked about all these things in the famous interview, and he was absolutely spot-on about many things!
Sure you don't work for sky 😂😂
The manager isn't responsible for th le team, ok.
Uve said ferguson have all the time at united is absolutely false...for many years of ferguson time at united because of he keep improving and winning dats y...i do believe if ferguson dont win anything for 3 season and united sits at the bottom half and not even being qulified for UCL he will also be in trouble
6 years without a trophy before Ten Hag arrived. 2 trophies since making him the second most successful manager in the UK only to 115 pep.
NO PROGRESS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU ARE A RETARD
@@shafieeedmund9781 ferguson finished bottom half table twice and didn't win anything until his 4th year.
kept improving AHAHAHAHA
YOU ARE A RETARD
From the side of a Chelsea fan I’d love for him to stay for just some free points, but from a competitive standpoint he needs to be sacked I feel bad for Man U fans
He's definitely bad for the game
Never feel bad for Man Utd fans. Why would you ever?
These two are even worse pundits than they were players and that's quite an achievement
Hopefully not, how would Erik be able to put food on the table for his beautiful wife and kids? He needs a 5 year contract extension to ensure he can still provide for them.......
He’ll get a job back in the Netherlands in no time at all
2+ seasons, half a billion spent on 90% Ex and present Eredivisie players, that's not going to win you the League. Lacks the personality to take risks buying players around world
Where have you got your numbers from? 😂
Onana, mazraoui, de ligt, martinez, malacia, eriksen, amrabat, weghorst, zirkzee, antony, you do the math
@@flexermc4333 OK, now do the math
@@flexermc4333 just over 300 million pounds for all those players you’ve named, try again 😂😭
@@ste4392 he just wants to make himself feel good for some weird reason so he lies about how much we’ve spent 😂😭
Did i just hear Ten Hag has an agenda against Rashford😂😂😂😂 oh my lord, he hsn’t put in a good performance in about a year and he still starts him in his favourite position every week, these guys are absolutely clueless
The players are to blame.... how many managers before him has had the exact same problem. Dressing room is rotten to the core.
How is everyone missing what Jim Radcliffe said AFTER he said it'not his decision. He said that the structure around Ten Hag has only been in place for weeks so it needs time before it helps him 🤷🏾♂️
Sancho was not terrible for Man U. Ten Hag scapegoated him. He was decent under Ole and under Ragnick...the issues surrounding Sancho only started once Ten Hag came in....THAT should not be overlooked and along with the fact midfield defense was the main issue during the Ole/Ragnick era whereas Ten Hag luckily got Casemiro also pinpoints the issues were acutely in the middle of the park, had nothing to do with Sancho, and zeroes in how Ten Hag is NOT the fit for this position
O’Hara: “ETH, got an agenda against Rashford”? Shut up, please. The man always backed Rashy and played him in many games that even O’Hara suggested, Rashy needed to be dropped to the bench.
ASTON VILLA ARE LOOKING VERY DANGEROUS.🔥.
I think there's a chance they'll finish top 4
Yeah must fear the Villa.... because???
Wayne Rooney is starting to look like Henry VIII, and Jamie O'Hara is starting to look like Ewan McGregor.
Hearing JB and O’Hara here, it's close to worse than ETH’s post-match press conference.
It’s so simple Chelsea were in the same desperate position as UTD just a little while back, but now they are starting to gel and it’s looking 👀 promising for them. They need a good disciplined team coach from day one and take it from there.
No more discussions. He’ll be gone on Monday.
What’s special on Monday?
@@TheGreatVivek7 ten hag out
He wil save his jobb ten hage bt winning today
take out the biggest loan you can and put a bet on if you are so sure of it
@@matthewbaker2573 no need to bet. It’s a fact
Still can’t get over how awesome this is!
Be under no illusion, Ineos will rebuild the club in the near future. They have only been there a few months.
@@zeondeane2832 they'' all crawl back into their holes then lol! I agree with you, it never pays to gloat!
David Moyes was the right choice,I still believe he is the best manager.
You always know how to make a great video!
Meanwhile, Man Utd fans : “Hag at the wheel ! Antony was a steal !”
ten hag has won twice as many trophies as Liverpool since he arrived, twice as many as Arteta at Arsenal in quarter of the time.
were you given participation medals at your school sports day?
If Rashford is lazy what will you say about Grealish, Grealish always makes england squad
Not the squad that mattered in the summer. Wouldn't pick either for England just now.
Absolutely not! We at Gravechester United love our career killing manager and legendary meme players! We want ERIK TEN MORE YEARS!
3:17 Bring in Nistleroy. Kicked the can darn the road. Great insight there😂
United need Luke Shaw back. When Leny Yoro returns Martinez should be moved into Midfield. Fernandes has to be replaced with Zirkzee and a new brand of football is required from a new coach.
I would’ve sacked after the 7-0 but I’m not Ceo
when United finished 8 points above Liverpool conceding less goals by the end of the season?
The number of column inches and airtime that manchester united's men's football team gets amazes me to end. The scrutiny is also off the charts although there's an argument that Ten Hag never really got the media on his side.
Sky Sports News❌️ MUTV✅️😂😂😂
IMO, if the Utd forwards do not track back, it's more the fault of the coaching staff than the players. They should pay more attention to their defensive duties during training, so that tracking back becomes instinctive. If they don't track back during training sessions, they definitely will not track back during matches. Without the ball, forwards and midfielders should be pressing or tracking back in training.
Never should have brought him back. Stupid. Worthless trophies shouldn’t override his history of falling short for years now.
This is ridiculous! This is Manchester United we have always been a cup team but we are still doing better than most teams
I personally have seen enough to acknowledge that the team have made zero progress after spending 600m the signings haven’t worked remotely no firepower or creativity in the team
Ten Hag is a good manager. Man U was still is a sick club.
JB and O’Hara are worse pundits than they were players, and that’s saying something
The thing I despise about Ten Hag is that he is literally creating an Ajaxchester United team
He ain’t nasty enough as a manager. Doesn’t assert that ice cold dominance that Sir Alex did. He use to put fear into players eyes. I’m an Arsenal fan it would be great to see United competing again
And you are the biggest clown to think fear would make a player play. People only respect furgerson and not fear sorry to break your little heart
Purple nose just bought the best players, but now best players don’t want to go to United. They would rather end themselves
you ever got into a heated argument with a man from Glasgow?
@@WizzWins ice cold purple nose too
Pundits make 100% assumptions a day talking bullshit and zero analysis
Utd have hired people, to make the 'right' footballing decisions for their club. If they are happy with a coach like that, and Utd playing poor football, scoring very few goals, conceding goals then you have to question these people.
Personally, I pray he stays as he is hilariously bad😂😂😂
Why isn't ugarte starting thought he was the cm they needed
they realize they just bought (another) mediocre player
@@slowtyper95 ugarte mediocre? you are utterly clueless
Get an Ai manager
Give him a new contract
Hag has no man mangement skills. He lost the dressing room months ago and has spent over £600 million.
managers havent been in charge of transfer fees and wages since ferguson retired you absolute retard
Why are you so obsessed with a team in 14th?
because it catches you on the end of a rod fishy
Are Man United in Arsenal's position 4 years ago? Arteta got back to back 8th, then 5th and arguably a FA Cup kept him in him a job in those first 2 and bit years and there's an argument to be made that the facts are Ten Hag has won more than Arteta. Do some United fans see the situation the same where Ten Hag given time is better than cycling through managers? I'm just trying understand how the Ten Hag Ins think. Because I'm hearing the phrase "Trust the Process" which is the same phrase I heard since 2020 amongst Arteta In Arsenal fans. I want to hear from the United fans who are backing Ten Hag and see what they think to the similarities because 20/21 Arsenal were horrendous!
British media and pundits and their hate for ETH. Disgusted to the core
If we win at Villa won’t better the situation.ETH lost a part of the dressing room
Rashford today, as a Villa fan I thought he was quite lively but his attitude was dour and as the game went on it got worse. Two back to back poor fouls where the ref could easily have given a 2nd yellow forced ETH to sub him. Honestly it looked to me like he'd had enough of the game and wanted out. 🎉
2:16 that's no disrespect to Brighton, but I want to see good football. True words there today like, feel bad for O hara 😅
Ten Yudas Snake
Now that i think about now thoroughly and how he is treating rashford now, Ten Hag doesn't stand superstars players. As soon as one players is head and neck above the rest of the pack and command respect slightly above his, he goes for the kill to phase out the players out of the team. He like introverted players like the ones he had at ajax. Young, unknown, reserved, out of the spotlight. That 's what he likes and it is undermining United. No superstars players would want to sign at United under this manager. He is a narcissist and that's why the team is not playing 100% for him. He must have already lost the dressing room
Its easy to see why there arent many good manager from england, the nonsense we hear from so called football people in this country is baffling.
Marcus Rashford doesn’t have a leg to stand on if he thinks he can down tools becasue he was taken off last week. He has been getting away with this for ages he shouldn’t have even been starting the last 20games he’s started.
I have been of the same opinion that ten Hag seems like a silent/reserved manager on the touchline. But last season he got a suspension because of yellow cards. So he has to be saying something 🤷♂️
Marcus Rashford or any other player of that profile is paid far too much 'to down their tools'. Ten Hag probably needs to move on but he'll be a good coach elsewhere. Put Ruud in charge as interim and have a serious rethink and get rid of the toxicity going on in the background wherever it's coming from. Not an easy job. Most top coaches never end up as pundits which tells you everything. It took Arsenal and decades to get back to being top clubs currently. It took several years and huge resourcing at Manchester City. The media and many people have very selective memories.
Sky know exactly what they’re doing here. Asking these two whoppers about what’s going wrong in the club to bait United fans to react. Thick as two planks these two
at least we were spared C Morrison on Sunday ! oh he'll be back on Saturday ? 😮
i swear these united players arent as bad as people think the only bad players are maguire and bruno i promise you antony isnt bad but all these players confidents and desire to do good is gone they got no soul in them but i know for a fact bruno is 50% of united problem if your number 10 the link of the team is playing that bad for 8 months then all the attack is useless basically half the team will be useless since bruno loses the ball all the time and cant make any decent pass
Hope he stays until sat 4th Jan 🙏🏼🤞🏼🪄
People being crying for Rashford to be dropped and now he is being he is performing better and now pundits are unhappy with it 😂😂 Manchester United can't win and they are just making channels and pundits rich
2nd most successful manager in the UK since he arrived only beaten by 115 pep
But his job is on the line.....
Clearly the standards are MUCH higher for United than any other club
WHY?
FERGYPTSD AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Rival fans are going to grieve. Hold fairwells. Put up "Never forget" banners, if he leaves 😂
Long time no see Jay !! From Sapporo !!
His days are numbered
Stick with the coach and improve the players or better still get more quality in
Manchester United's problem is that the culture of the club is rotten from the top down; nothing will change until the culture changes.
IF they lose ? as if they had a chance in hell to win against Aston Villa !!, ten hag should have been fired at the end of his first season "in charge", he is not just a bad coach, there is no system, he has zero effect on his team
winning 2 trophies in 2 seasons with a team that won nothing for 6 years prior?
you are a retard
Let’s listen to these 2 experts 😂😂😂
Hated Adored but NEVER Ignored. Hows Spurs results this season O'hara? LOL
INEOS must be magicians & i can't believe the difference at United since they came in, they've taken a badly run club,spent big money & made it far worse than it was beforehand, I'm very impressed & find it hard to understand how they've managed to achieve that miracle with heavy investment in the club. Wow, that's real magic, incredible!!! 😂
Why aren't these pundits managers in top clubs.
Please keep Eric at the wheel
he's won twice as many trophies as liverpool since he arrived, twice as many as arteta in quarter of the time.
which is what ALL SPORT is about - winning honours
@@matthewbaker2573 please keep Eric 😂
@@gt602 Hes done better than Ferguson did at the start of his United career. who was the last manager to be given the time to build his own squad while getting rid of all those before him.
and he gave you lot PTSD ruining your childhoods
@@matthewbaker2573 stop living in the past ETH is the future 🙏🏼
Like I said. I didn’t watch villa game or highlights yet. But seeing the starting lineup, I was baffled. Kobbie was a doubt. Then starting him alongside Eriksson. I thought was a mistake to start game with. We need to get Ugarte imbedded into starting line up. Use to the English game. New team and country and all that. So might need time. But that time is NOW…
Start him and Casemiro together with Bruno and then bring those boys on as subs…. Need to see post match interviews to understand why he made that decision??? The reasons and logic behind it….
Cuz I ain’t got a foockin Scooby
Damn, sky sports really has fallen off. These guys talk out of their ass most of the time. Sancho was brought by Ten Hag yeah? He's a toxic waste of space that couldn't be asked at United. 1 billion was spent on Ten Hag? 3 seasons he has had around 600 million spent. Playing counter attacking football? He's trying to play a high line, high possession brand of football and we have seen that this season, some players are just not up for it though. By any means I'm not Ten Hag in or out, but these people from Sky Sports don't know what they're talking about
If you watch todays match. The body language between Marcus and Tenn Haag is telling. Marcus can't even look at him. Let alone embrace him. No player wants to be subbed. Yet this brake down between players and manager is clear.
Where's the Captain Jamie 🎉
really do love these cute little scenarios you plebs keep coming out with
For me no matter who is in charge of United, they’re going to struggle in the long term, Ten Hag had success at Ajax (has won a couple of cups at United) but for me has been poor in the league and I don’t think anyone will be able to take United forward with the way they’re going and the players they keep signing too
arteta finished 8th twice and has only won 1 fa cup in 8 years in charge
@@matthewbaker2573 he also finishes 2nd in the league too
@@jamessimsakatherealjimjam3840 and what does that win you?
i bet you were given participation medals at school sports day
I am sick to death of hearing nothing but man united this man united that from sky, Times change! The villa will hopefully smash them today
ten hag is not getting sacked even though they lose.
Stupid question from sky sports, really sky sports want Manchester United to sack EHT 😢 please leave EHT alone
We are all Villa fans today..
Trashford Bruno Garnacho
Your front three are lazy and useless in defence
Contrast that with your likes of Salah Mane Bernardo Silva KDB etc
They all put a shift in defence
Man U stars on the other hand .....
Save our manager dear unai emery 😢
They are going to keep him no matter what the result it's not the managers fault it's the players
The players that he brought in
Then who bought those players yo talking about?????
Didn't they sack van gal after winning the fa cup?
Come on Eric, sort it.
If they sack ETH The replacement Will inherit ETH Players Ajax 2.0. That's another rebuild
Cue the Man U fans crying “but but we have the biggest global fan base” 😭😭😭😭😭
how about - ten hag is the second most successful manager in the uk since he arrived and is the only one "facing the axe"
clearly the standards for United are MUCH higher than any other UK club
I hope Luke Shaw is back after the brake.
Don't tell ten hag he sucks cause he'll tell about the cups he won 😂😂😂
Every conversation about utd's struggles leads to the 2 cups ten hag won, doesn't matter how it happened 😂😂😂
twice as many as liverpool since he arrived, twice as many as arsenal in quarter of the time.
the idea of ALL SPORT is to win honours
I bet you were given participation medals at your school sports day
Yes.. for the sake of the media
ETH is clueless and with the lineup am seeing, Aston Villa is winning today. The coach need to go
seems it's you, the nobody on youtube, is the one that's clueless
ETH has a problem
Man Utd. Chicago Bulls. Both were the 90s. Both now dead because it's 2024 and they didn't evolve. Live in the past and you can't progress to the future
90s and 2000s.
liverpool are still living in the 80s
Am tired of new managers
AI OLE MARCHES ON HAPPY WEEKENDS AGAIN.
Please keep ten hag don't sack him 😉
I know more about football than Jamie o,hara