Artifacts are the MOST Expensive AND the MOST Random??? - Marvel Future Fight
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- MFF developers need to make artifacts easier to get and upgradable
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The main problem with artifact is the rates. I mean, oh sure, 6* is only possible from yellow cubes. But did anyone see the rates in game? The chance of getting 3* specific character artifact and up is 0.43% with the 6* having 0.03% chance (0.0012% EACH). Even the scummiest gacha out there have higher rates than this, it's absurd.
you see i have a higher chance of getting a girlfriend than getting an artifact and id much rather get a girlfriend
Exactly, this less than 1% drop rate is what's holding this game back
It's fucking robbery. Artifact system is a joke.
AND whenever a new artifact comes up the chance that you will get that one you want grows smaller and smaller.
Damn, this is just 1 in 83,333 chance which is just so bad, just having a 6* artifact would be so valuable bruh😂😂
For the Celestial Essence 250 roll, I think each 10 roll should give players 2 tokens, so everyone can actually have a goal to grind them and get the selector after a amount of time
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This is a very Good Idea....
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Love that idea 💡
People get these likes up , this is the main comment anyone should see in this video, which also might be one of the devd
3 thoughts: 1) initially, when you couldn't buy 6* artifacts, I was ok with not being able to upgrade them. As soon as they sold 6* selectors for big money, they now have a need to allow upgrades. No way to keep up otherwise.
2) the crystal chest needs to have a rotating chance up for the 4*s like every other crystal dim chest.
3) decrease the pity or, if you implement a chance up, then the first pity needs to be limited to those on chance up.
Considering psylocke’s deluxe pack is more expensive than makarri’s or Gilgamesh’s I think they need to add the artifacts for the characters from that epic quest into her mission. The feathers and crystals are not that great. And this should go for all the other epic quests also.
I've spent over 10k of celestial essence recently and received just 1 four star artifact (Black Cat). The system is demoralizing and is discouraging me from building characters, because some characters are largely incomplete without their artifact (Wolverine, Hela, Heimdall, etc.) This in turn creates a huge disadvantage in pvp which is turning me away from some gamemodes I used to enjoy. I'm reaching the point where something has to give with this system. I'll give it another month or 2 to see what improvements they might make, but after almost 4 years of playing this game, I may be close to calling it quits.
You may just get your life back if you do, no longer a slave to the nm game log in and chore lists that need to be completed daily
@@ericg9942 I am now 27 days into MFF so very much a noob. I want to ask for an advise you see I haven't yet build up my comic cards. I could get those Premium Loki cards from Legendary mission of Ragnarok but those uniforms are trash compared to say Loki or Thor's current ones. So I feel like buying them is a waste of crystals. What do you think I should do?
I think you should play for free and enjoy the game. New players are given more stuff, characters, premium items like cards and ctps more than ever. You can build a decent set of everything just find an ally at your level and you should be able to feel like you progress and enjoy others chatting in your ally cause honestly that's really the only reason theres still a game cause players can interact and communicate with each other. The games probably only got a couple years left so just ftp it then do happy dance until it's over. Lots of free stuff and give aways in the game to rank your characters up at no charge. Cards just take time and luck. Only way to shorten that time potentially is to spend a bunch of money and you still require luck. You're not gonna be able to play and compete with players who have played this game for years without spending a small fortune. Its not worth it.
@Pratik Roy
They should give us artifact selectors. Atleast 3 star artifact selectors. For 4 stars and above they can still charge money but there is absolutely no way to spend money for a random 3 star selector. Period. Anyways thank you alex for raising this issue for the entire community.
May be in anniversary they will give one for free
They should've done that for the event shop , a 3 or 4 star artifact selector for 650 tokens
At least someone will buy it
@@The_Mad_Titan_007 not someone but alot and at least for some like wolv,Hela,spidy
@@skbosscodersx8217 yeah , but I think they will have to do that sooner or later , if NM wants the game to stay alive
they will, give it time. they are milking the whales first. im fine because i want the game to continue and it continues thanks to whales!
And here I thought the artifact could be upgraded just like other items in the roster (I have already upgraded 4-star artifact to 6+ having thought that it could be combined with another 6+ as well), how fool I was. This channel not only provides useful info but most importantly also gives the player great suggestions. BTW, I agreed with you there are so many ways that the dev could come up with solutions, it is just a matter of time if they want to do, or not.
I agree 100%.
I’m actually a new player and they are making a lot of mistakes that older games face. That problem is that instead of focusing on providing content that many players will toss a couple bucks at, they focus on collecting that revenue from a small part of the community (the whales). Artifacts are part of the game and in some cases have become required for a character to perform. The end result is that if you aren’t shelling out $150, you aren’t even relevant anymore, and if you’re going to $0-149… you might as well not play. A little hyperbolic, but in essence truth.
I think your point 2 randomness, but your commentary about dilution is the primary issue. The cost issue is exasperated BECAUSE of that that RNG and dilution. The point here is that the thoughtlessness of that dilution actually makes the system WORSE every time they add new artifacts.
You have people complaining about not getting a 6*… and I’m over here still trying to collect a 3* of the unique character specific artifacts. Feels bad… doesn’t even come close to accurately describing my feelings.
For me it’s like how does an established game miss the mark by so much? Like this game is what 5 years old now? You still have people struggling to get good CTPs and you’re going to introduce yet ANOTHER system to drain people’s coffers? What ends up happening is that infinitely small group you’re trying to get more and more out, get smaller and smaller, and no new players are added to take their place. In your efforts to increase revenue from an ever dwindling source, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and drive yourself out of a paying player base.
I agree with all these points, and will take it a step further: since the artifact system has come into the game, the new uniforms we’ve gotten haven’t been as good as we’ve seen previously. It’s like they limited the uniform quality and are counting on players getting the artifact in order to make up the difference.
Don't buy the uniforms if they need the artifact to make it good
Hopefully the devs can hear you or can hear us. The chance of us getting our preferred artifacts is getting thinner and thinner in every coming update. With all this months i havent had the artifacts that i wanted.
Is it really game developers who create the game or the executives and management that are requiring the game developers to create something that causes the milky milky squeezing every dollar possible out of the fools willing to pay to acquire and those willing to gamble hoping for some luck at getting what they hope for.
I think the devs are doing this intentionally and already have a plan on how to balance artifact acquisition and everything related to it. They're just introducing fan favourite characters with op artifacts to milk us and then after players have voiced thier opinion, they'll be the heroes on the scene implementing the balanced version of this whole situation
yup, that is why im fine with the decisions they are making. they seem to be taking the best $$$ path so far and i love them for it!!!
They usually introduce something ridicolous like that to cover up smaller cashgrabs that are to stay, but no one will pay attention. It was like that with premium cards upgrading :) It stayed, cause there were bigger issues at the time still being adressed.
I spent my money on steak and lobster instead.. so tasty!!
@@PeterParker-vq2cz thats exactly why this game is in the dumbster for revenue
You should be able to get the character specific artifacts by combining bios and xgenes, then upgrade them and reroll the features
Another small, stupid thing...make the character specific artifacts automatically align with the character's correct instinct
This is such a great video and message. Thank you for gathering and organizing all this info and putting it out there.
I was completely surprised that I couldn’t reroll an artifact to upgrade it or change the stats, and I actually spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to reroll it before I realized I couldn’t. It doesn’t make sense in this game where all items with stats can be rerolled except this one item. It raises the learning curve for new players (or dummies like me who spent an hour trying to figure it out 😂) and it makes so many items I collect worthless, except for dismantling and casting a new lot in the gambling ring. I don’t like that this part of the game relies soooo heavily on gambling for every aspect. I hope the devs look at this and give us the ability to reroll. It just makes sense with how the rest of the game works.
I thought genshin's artifact is the hardest to farm, now i was wrong
Atleast we got artifacts that but on this game we didn't get a single one...
Maybe they could throw the mutant artifacts as a danger room reward(guaranteed at a certain rank/chance at a lower rank).
I also think they could add essence to GBR or somewhere else
That would make too much sense and give away these things for free that were obviously designed to be paid for with money or the option to be incredibly inconvenient to acquire through farming.
Yup - this system is what caused me in large part to go F2P casual after 6 years of competitive play. My skills (and ample spending) can't even help me get these. I haven't pulled a single premium artifact. Only ones I have are the three star ones from playing missions.
Artifacts being too necessary hurt for f2p..colossus for example, healing should be in the base kit and maybe ignore on the artifact (i am sure he can be a decent counter to physical type character with enough healing or maybe passive heal which he should be and with ignore he can be a threat)..i hope the dev rework and will not release colossus heimdall kind of artifacts in the future..ima colossus simp and i hope my guy shine brighter rather than just a support
One thing I’m surprised you didn’t mention is that for CTPs, which I feel is closest thing to artifacts in terms of premium items, you can get a specific CTP guaranteed without gamble pity. Lengendary Battle. Even though it is only one of a specific ctp, all you have to do is pay around 2500 crystals, sometimes maybe 3000 if the requirements require a uniform, but its certainly less then the pity cost. There should also be a similar way to get artifacts like this. Maybe put a selector in legendary battle. Another suggestion to the devs would be to sell a 3 star artifact every time a new one comes out in the stores for crystals. They can limit it each player only being able to buy it once, for example if green goblin gets an artifact down the line, we can buy a 3 star version of his artifact once in the store for crystals, that way casual players can still access the exclusive passive, while NM can still milk money from players who want a 6 star version.
When the artifact system was introduce, every time I read a new patch note there is always this feeling of dread, “what are they going to do this time with the artifacts” to the point where I hope that every new artifact is hot garbage simply so that we don’t need them for the character to function.
20:15. This has got to be the single most honest thing I've ever heard Alex say and I agree with that forever till the day I die.
Great video Alex. I got two 4 star artifacts from the free eod rolls when artifacts first got introduced & now I only ever get duplicated 3 stars if I'm lucky! Deffo needs an overhaul on rng & the ability to use up the wasted duplicate 3 star ones. Happy New Year bro.
thank you so so so much for finally making a video about this. this system has been so frustraiting ive done all I can to avoid it completely. ive already shared my thoughts on it in the comments of your other videos but yeah, thank you
Holly shit man i was just talking about artifacts with my friend this morning, puting artifacts in shadowland is great but they need to put them as a regular item not one times, for example, generic 2* at stage 3 8 13 , generic 3* at stage 18 23 28, 3* selector at 35, 4* selector at 45, and they could add a one time prize for 5* and 6* selector at like 100 and 150 or they just can add a shadowland shop so we choose our prize
From the beginning I felt like artifacts are just missing parts of uniforms.
1 They have to change lot of things (essence of diminions) 250 for granted 3* artifact and for 10th roll 2500(EOFD) GRANTED(4*- 6*) artifact
and yeah diminion Rifts reroll some artifacts (me Played legendary,mythic rift(each one time) and never ever got one named 3* artifact) 😤
2 Increase the drop percentage of named artifact for every week
(Add some artifacts selectors, half the token cost for artifacts cest)
Mmm...well 4*artifact selector for reached 45 level futurepass or spend (CFF 150-300) 6* artifact selector in a event
I completely agree with you! I saw you live on Twitch trying to get the artifact and could not believe how many tries you had to do to get 1 good artifact! And yes I fully agree what you say about the artifact in your video. It makes complete sense.
Thanks for this video, Posted similar feedback a few weeks ago about artifacts.
While the boosts can be seen as a great boost, and to your point uniform independent .
(1) Theres too much RNG as more updates adds characters the original drop rate lowers, and once another character gets another update like, then they'll have 2 artifacts? Which means more dilution to what you're trying to aim for.
(2) While its like CTPs, there compensation/pity takes more, and you're only getting a 4*. Unlike CTPS, which are like 8 or something, artifacts are alot more with 4*5*6* x X# of characters. So the %'s are bad.
(3) Long term wise the system can be sneaky, if they find that people are spending more money/ time farming artifacts, they'll put the "good" skills/boosts in artifacts, instead of on their uniform.
(4) To your point they should allows 4* +4*=5* merging like iso's, even limiting it to the same character type would be decent rather than being locked at 4* forever.
Do we need artifacts to play the game, no. Just like CTPs you dont need them, but they do make the content/gameplay easier, especially if you're focused on PVP which seems to gets the most benefit from artifact system (especially the Knull revive)
Long term wise we need to be careful of the artifact creep taking over, as some good stats will be locked behind artifacts, multiple artifacts for 1 character, gives the game alot of RNG for gachas and the community more headache.
Thank you so much for tackling this for us. You are the man
I've started equipping Artifacts, but I have yet to receive a 6-star and even then it might not be the right instinct for the character they are for.
I agree with all words except about a pity system. You can gamble10 times for ctp and got some concrete ctp by pity system. But at gambling for cards - u get a random card after 10 pulls... sooo I think pity system is ok for artifacts - 10 times for random artifact (like cards), or 20 times if u want to choose... but maybe it should be 6* instead of 4*
A 6 star selector could appear as the top end of the Bonus Mission for spending crystals. NMM will get more people to spend their crystals for these events if they do that, so it would be a win-win.
The fact that i just got a 3* Hyperion since the beginning of this, and is one of the only people i don’t have made me so mad.
The artifact chests make me feel like that hamster from secret life of pets “I run and I run and I run… and I’ve gone no where”
Artificts were a cool idea with some cool potential but I also started seeing the trend I feared would happen, They are leaving out vital things the characters have needed fo so long and instead of putting it in their long awaited New uniforms they instead put them in an artifact, and then you will most likely get a 3 or 4 star version. On top of that to even get the intended effect you need to get the 6 star version and good luck with that.
@5:06 The word you're looking for was "non-profit".
I don't mind about the ways to get them, but they need to make sure that the artifacts can be ranked up, from 3 star to 4 star and so on up to 6 stars, just like comic cards and obelisks, because while it takes time to get their specific artifact, it also requires luck to get their 6 star artifact.
Good point
Even though I pulled a 6* Spider-Man from the Advanced Artifact Chest yesterday, I know that it was an outlier and probably won't happen again for a long time. Comic Cards are still the most important upgrade item in the game and they can not only be acquired more easily, but can also be upgraded and rerolled. It makes no sense for Artifacts to be any different.
I pulled a 6*wf artif
I have no idea what iam supposed to do with it
@@gsrisaivivek9491 Hopefully they fix it. Otherwise, save it to reroll something better.
I have been so unlucky trying to get artifacts for spending celestials, however lastnight I spent 2025 crystals (675 3x) and the first roll was great. Wolverine 4*, colossus 3*, and Wave 3*. My third roll I got psylocke's artifact and Heimdall's artifact. So I'm not complaining, but I do wish you could combine artifacts to raise the artifact star level. Thanks for the content Alex.
I tried using some celestial essence and did not get any special artifacts
From the beginning of the artifact system I opened gold and celestial essence chests every day, played dimension rift so many times and I only got a 3 star Shang chi.
Give an off-character minor passive. So Wolverine has the immortality. If another character equips it, it gives a 20% heal when below 20% life, 300 second cooldown. This way if you get multiple of the same passive, it can still have a use on another character.
The last time I said about artifacts system is a P2W thing in-game, When some item is defining the character as useful or not, and that things in the game are so rare that you only have an extremely low chance to get it by luck for free or you can just pay for it, and that will define you mostly win or mostly lose (exp: Wolverine has or hasn't got his character artifact is almost two characters), I will call it a P2W.
And the last time I said that here, you reply me "Lol why spend crystals? You can get it for free".
It's just sooooo funny to see after you say that, you keep spending money to try to get the character artifact, but also truly good to see you understand how ridiculous is the way to get a character artifact.s now.
Great video as always bro and great ideas on improving the artifact system I hope the devs take notice
This video represents the community itself. I mean, cmon, if it wasnt for the free exclusive artifact last time, i would not get a "Captain America" artifact, in which im hoping its a "Wolverine". Its really random and expensive. It was well-explained on this content all the flaws of the system. So devs, please listen to us for this part. You outdone this before, and honestly, the game improves a lot more when you started listening to us. Kudos to you @cynicalex for raising this content.
Thanks Alex for bringing that up ,especially that they listening to you there own employee 😉😉 , much appreciated and keep up the good work
I find it funny where this is the only game where ALMOST EVERYTHING is SOOOO rng based
May be a story mode chapter having premium reward as artifact
I watch most of your videos, but I don't always comment or like or anything else for most videos. But I am doing everything for this video. I agree with this. This needs to change. Good video!
Sorry brother. I saw your message too late. I would have said more.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TACKLING THIS. WE NEED NM TO FIX THIS
Alex just took netmarble above his head and just body slammed them into the crust of the fookin earth. Good rant!
i totally agree with that. They have to do something. I think they will do it and for 1 year, they have always accommodated us with something winning for both. But i hope sooner rather than later.
Outside of the Epic Quest and a crystal spend, i've never gotten a single character artefact. They don't need to make 6*s easy to get, but 3s need to be at least attainable if they're going to be working characters up through them.
THEY SHOULD JUST INTRODUCE A TOKEN IN FREE FUTURE PASS AND YOU GET 250…THESE TOKENS CAN BE USED ON A CHEST OF 4-6* ARTIFACTS. Every month. Maybe even give us 500 tokens giving us two 4-6* artifacts every month or one every 2 weeks.
Maybe that is a bit extreme but it would be great to guarantee ourselves a free exclusive artifact every so often. Because eventually people are going to stop buying uniforms if they hold back on uniforms and give thee best buffs to the artifact.
They should give us the opportunity to craft the artifacts that we want. This new system of artifacts have been rolling the game and crafting our own artifacts would be so much easier, or just putting artifacts selectors in shadowland
they should changed week 3 event log in event from the awakened iso set to a 4* to 6* artifact chest
I defiantly agree with you about the pitty being halved and being able to upgrade 4 or 5 stars I have a few that I'd like to upgrade if possible but we cant it's so frustrating
Perfect words: They are like sweet poison
If the Artifacts were reasonably farmable… as in “Targeted” I want to focus my farming to the Psylocke Artifact, or Spiderman, or Black Cat, There should be some content where I can do that for each character or group of characters with an Artifact. For example we can farm Eternals Artifacts in the Gilgamesh and Makkari missions. Yeah, its crystal wall but thats fine, and it makes sense. Psylocke (and later Stryfe and Deadpool, maybe Domino and FantomX) should be potential drops from the Psylocke Mission in a Retro-Fitted Update, same for all Epic Quest Characters. And their Crystal Purchase Missions. THIS is a Great Idea because it will encourage players to go back and buy that Magneto Quest Pack for the chance to get Jean Grey, Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine, Rogue and Beast Artifacts if for no other reason, if/when those characters get Artifacts. Danger Room: First off Add all Epic Quest Free Characters to the Support Shop (Cyclops, Domino) and make X-Gene Selectors available in Shadowlands as 1 of the 3 options on stages 5, 10, and 15. Then Make the only Bios available in DRX the select Premium X-Gene Characters, the ones you can’t directly farm like Kid Omega, X23, and Nightcrawler, And DRX Characters, and replace the Basic X-Genes with Artifacts for those Characters. Make DRX worth it again “MDWA”
These should be Upgradeable and drop that Kabam Bullshit Lunacy of “Well, you got it at 3 star? Better try again because it can never be a 4 star, much less a 6 star” THIS IS FREAKING AMERICA WHERE A ONE STAR PAGEANT GIRL CAN GET A SHOW ON THE LEARNING CHANEL AND BECOME A SIX STAR PIGLET THAT LOVES SKETTI! My artifact should have the opportunity to advance all the way to the top.
Upgrading the quality should be a ting yeah. Got some ideas for it. Maybe a complicated one, but it should take some of the reforging and custom gear upgrading. So say you use a 5* on a 5* that will give you 25 % success rate. But if you add more 1-5* artifacts that rate will go up. The higher the * the higher the rate. This Will make it hard to rank up but, still plausible.
Maybe even let us risk it. If you dont use another of the same * you can have like 50-75% chance of fail combining like urus.
It wouldn't be so bad if they were farmable at least every Agent should should have a 3star Artifact for every character available. Colossus is a Nerf unless you have his Artifact, you want Agents to Play, not quit the Game. It's not Fair to fight against other agents when there is clearly an Advantage. Everyone can't buy them & the ones for gold cost too much for the chance & what is available. Increase all Obtainable Items double all Rewards except CCF. They require more & more material with no increase in what is farmable in the game. Sas Perfection Olympian's Alliance Leader
I neither spend a lot of time farming a lot of essence now because i never found a good artifact. Only 1 and 2 star of the common one. Rarely a 3 star common. And for me it's extremaly rare to find a 3 star artifact of the specific one.
“No matter the stats in future Wolverine uniforms, he will ALWAYS have the immortality in his artifact. An that is a cool thing”.
Dear Alex, no. That is THE PROBLEM.
This means that, no matter how many future Wolverine unis they make and you buy, NONE of them will feature “Immortality” in their options…. because the artifact has it.
This means that, if you never stumble upon Wolverine’s artifact, you will never have him as well implemented as imagined, no matter how many past and future unis you buy.
It is intrinsic in the artifacts’ value that they will bring to a champ an ability that is exclusive to them. The developers, since they opted to go this way with this system, NEED to find some way to make artifacts more targetable and less prone to such ridiculous RNG, in order to avoid alienating players. Spend or not, wasting tons of celestial essence and gold for non-reforgable crap and getting nothing time and time again and again, DOES NOT A PLEASANT GAMING EXPERIENCE MAKE.
Alex this comment right here. 6* artefacts are unattainable to the normal player and you being a whale spending as much as you did, did not even get a 6* one
Now I Play MFF Like Log In, Log Out... Because This Artifact...
The artifacts are really expensive to get, and each update they make characters that need the artifacts to function. And speaking to myself I can't get any artifacts that I need for my characters because of the current system, it is so random it really bad. The Dev really need to change the system for better.
Do that for the artifacts that will be great sacrifice in the artifact to upgrade another artifact
Well thats true. When Spider-Man got his artifact I spent over 10k Essence to get it and I got it, at 4 stars but the thing is it was the only character art I got in 10k. What if it wouldnt be Spidey's? This system is just too random, you get 1 and 2 star artifacts which are totally useless 90% of the time. We have to get a pitty system for this no doubt. And another pain in the butt is to upgrade them. The upgrade system for artifacts is just stupid. I spent over 5000 essense to get a 4* artifact to +10 and my friends said that I got lucky. Isnt its just way too expensive? Not to mention the stats on the artifact which are very hard to reroll cuz you have to use another artifact with the same amount of stars to get a CHANCE to roll the stats that you want. Oh yeah, you cant upgrade the 3* to 4* and to 5* and then to 6*. Why? We can do it for everything in the game like cards, obeliscs, ISO-8 and urus and even BAM and CCF. Imagine if you cant convert rank 1 BAM to rank 2 so you would when have to pull it from the boxes. Why cant we rank up the artifacts?!
I've tried rolling from time to time. And it's been a perpetual dumpster fire. It really makes it hard for me to keep my characters at least remotely decent. And I'm not looking forward to when She-Hulk drops because I KNOW I'd be pushing for her damn thing. I'm blown.
finnaly you spoke up about it thatd what you should always do
"That's nice! That's like a refund!"
Alex becoming an abused spouse to MFF, anything seems good at this point 😂
Why is anyone surprised. This is what they do. This is what they've always done. Release an un-player friendly feature to maximize profits and slowly and gradually make it less predatory over time all the while coming off as "listening to your player base". This is a billion dollar company using a billion dollar IP. They're not stupid, they didn't make a mistake in adding a seemingly half baked mechanic that is predatory. They are calculated and underhanded. It'll get "better" with time. They'll add the ability to reroll the sub stat. Then the ability to rank up artifacts. Then when 3* artifacts become booty prizes they'll add them to the next story chapter as fragment chests. It'll be expensive but that'll be the "compromise" for "listening to players". It's corporate gaslighting at its finest.
If this were two humans it'd be a wildly abusive relationship.
I wish we can reroll instinct of 3 star artifact because "the one time" you will be able to pull one, you get one with wrong instinct
Hey Cynicalex! I really like your videos!! Can you do next Top 10 Heroes for each World Boss without support/striker? Thanks!! :)
In my opinion the guaranteed artifact pity timer is literally double what it should be. Also the celestial essence artifact chest is abysmal Lee low in terms of drops
People who say this is free to play are actually ignorant to how RNG works
"Wave has water swords"
I wish they give us 4star artifacts selector in token event
VIP level should affect RNG.
I have been pulling since it's inception and have NEVER gotten a specific character from the celestial essence chest.I have gotten some if the Eternals artifacts because I bought Makkarri. That is the only place I have seen specific characters' artifacts.
As much as I love how F2P this system is. it's way to random to grind for a specific artifact without spending money. It's slowly feeling more P2W even though it isn't because spending money doesn't even give you the best version of the artifact you want.
But it does now. You could buy two 6* selectors, a random 6*, and two 5* selectors on bf. I expect those sales back for the anniversary. Artifacts are def now p2w.
Artifact is a nightmare imagine grinding it in timeline survival then you grind 10k essence in timeline survival then you pull it off you got nothing literally nothing even 3 star exclusive I stop grinding that shit a I played timeline survival like a madman everyday then you got nothing
Definitely agree with the ideas Alex. Hope Netmarble take note. Cause it's crazy right now LoL
Every system like the artifact addition, have always started out super exclusive. Ctps, cards, ect.. look at it now, we get them for basically free. I think once they have a certain amount of artifacts in the game, they will change it.
They should make the pity system better. U know like give certain artifacts for a limited time for a descent amount of crystal. So that they get more Crystal or cash out of more people then get a 100$ from one guy.
I have a few problems with artifacts. Firstly the low drop rates but Secondly and more Important is the fact that characters are being designed to basically need he artifacts to perform well whereas the artifacts in the beginning made characters that were already on their newest uniforms better. The RNG wll also get worse with every update as new artifacts are introduced.
Really love the ideas and hope they get implemented in the game.
Yehh, if they're going to pull all the artifacts in 1 chest they need to make the pull charge cheaper. There's going to be more artifacts than ctps maybe even Pcards soon but the pull charge is the same for the ctp chest. And the pitty is like double the p card and ctp chest putty system. Makes no sense.
definitely , devs needs to revamp this system ASAP , toons like wolvie/hela with and without their artifacts r just a different level , for PVP at least
The problem I have is spending all the time in rifts collecting 1* artifacts to get enough essence to only open the chests and get nothing
Thanks Cynicalex for shinning a light 🚨 on this frustrating system, I honestly just ignored the artifact system the moment I realized what despicable scam it was. The effort and cost vs reward is outrageous.
The devs needs to take a good look at this system otherwise they will risk alienating the playerbase, the last time they introduced a new greedu system we all know what happened next.
also in the new uniform they changed coloccus's passive to apply to self only
While I was super excited to luck out and pull a 6* Gilgamesh artifact from the Advanced Artifact Chest a couple of weeks ago, I also know that was a fluke and I probably won't see another in over a year. The system right now is really bad and it'll only get worse as more are introduced into the system. NM will definitely need to look at this, and the sooner the better!
they were 100% thinking of the whales when they implemented this system. they're probably gonna introduce a better way to farm artifacts down the line and then a couple months later introduce another system that requires heavy spending. i don't really blame them, we're talking about a *very* old game, almost a fossil in terms of mobile game lifespans, so we'll have to eat up whatever they have to do to keep it alive.
This video in a nutshell: Alex got shafted and wanted revenge
I think the thing that would help the Most is removing the 1* and 3* regual Artifacts in the Crystal Chets to basically increase the chance of getting Character Artifacts!
IGN:Frozen One YT
They also said this was supposed to help bridge the gap somewhat between f2p and p2w though, I haven't seen that at all. I had pulled 10x celestial essence chests weekly (until i gave up about a week ago) since the update came out and still haven't seen a single character specific artifact let alone 4 stars or higher. Thanks for clearly stating so much though, it really is discouraging investment when the odds are that terrible and you know the power creep could well make something like this irrelevant in a matter of months. Beginning to feel impossible to build characters to be useful with this new trend
Completely agree. This system is not good at all.
Needs to be better.
Good ideas out there, the bare minimum is to let us upgrade the Artifacts.
But even that won't fix the problem, cos way to RNG.
I open more than one, sometimes two of the free 10 pull chest everyday since this came out, and only got two random 3* variants. Never got a four or up.
Two 3* in over 90 or 100 pulls is just a joke.
I think most of you guys are totally right, the artifact draw lacks a pity or token system AND the droprates are just ridicolous. But on the other hand it's probably the only way for the devs to keep the whales from already having all the artifacts when they come out. I guess the will raise the droprates once there are more artifacts in the game.
That doesn't mean I like what they're doing, just wanted to put that thought out there.
Artifacts have honestly turned me off from the game. My play time has reduced immensely because it’s just another thing I don’t have the time/money to get. Daily crystals stay low but the needs of the player constantly increase
I got an artefact chest for BF and got a 4* mkari artifact(a character I don't have). Later the same day i use 250 essence and got the same artifact again
Bro I forgot about the typing because if you get a Wolverine 4star Artifact & it's Cruelty then what🤦 what's the chance of getting the same Artifact with the correct typing. It's Redundant