It would be futile... shell companies fold under no pressure and can easily pop back up under a new name. There is no cash flow within the shell company as it would be drained by the time of the law suit, meaning google would be spending time and resources without any compensation.
Seems to me if enough developers quit using the Google Play store citing these attacks, Google would come on board. Until it costs them, they won't and don't care.
Legal racketeering. I worked for a company that went under for this very same issue. The lawyer bills broke the bank for them. 7 years millions of dollars.
Austin, been a supporter of X-Plane since I got my first copy in the early 2000s of X-Plane 6. Hell if I can remember how many CDs it came on, it was a lot with all the land files. Keep up the good fight, I can't wait until X-Plane 11.
These scumbag lawyers usually have money. Also, the lawyers suing this guy are the sons of the judges in the district. The judges are the ones letting the case go forward.
1) there are lawyers and judges who benefit from this 2) there are lawmakers (aka politicians) who benefit from this (so they have reasons not to change any appicable laws) Name them, shame them, shout about it and make it publicly known. In the meantime, perhaps, help crowdfund defence against these practices and in the end, hopefully, the law(s) will be changed because of pure pressure from the people and these practices will stop.
My thought on solving the patent troll problem would be file a patent for the litigation process used by the trolls and sue their asses for infringement every time a patent suit is filed by entity
Counter sue uni lock for an unlawful accusation. 1 billion dollars for lost revenue and on going harassment. I won a trial in the past and 6 months later my lawyer told me we should sue them for the above, so we did and won. Wasn't a huge case but non the less I stuck it to them haha. Got to luv the "system" people use it to take advantage of others than just turn it around and throw it back in their face.
They have a lawful patent. They not only have a right, but a duty to defend it. These guys likely bought the patent because it is something that never should have been approved and with hundreds of different things inside it, it would take billions to fight the whole thing. Its a loophole in the system that just makes innovation and owning a small business that much harder
@@BonanzaPilot It's so intriguing that the patent and trademark office can essentially create out of thin air the method for transferring wealth in such a dubious way. It is not as if the "inventor" of this patent did anything useful for society which patents are there to protect, but they were admittedly very clever in their wording of the patent. The patent was resurrected so many years later and applied to the App store, something that wasn't really a thing back in 2001 before widespread high speed internet use. And it's all so fascinating and useless. Those folks all could be contributing to the economy but they are leeching off a patent that was never put to use and too vague to ever be describing original innovation in the first place. You could even argue that with modern databases you are not looking up "a name" but actually the UTF-8 representation of a name, first by a hash match, and then a comparison. Maybe I could patent that and get rich!!! oh wait I have morals and ethics and will actually positively contribute to society.
What also screws these companies is that if they do settle they also sign a non disclosure so they can’t even report or warn others. Fair play to this guy for standing up to them. Keep an eye out for his hour long film on this. Very good and a worthy watch.
Outrageous. Maybe you should sue the patent office for not performing due diligence. In the UK, many years ago a patent was once issued to an Italian washing-machine manufacturer (Zanussi) for what boiled down to a potentiometer! That got rescinded when challenged.
Why don't your lawyers simply ask them to prove what they're saying? Show an actual instance where Google is violating their "patent". I betcha they couldn't get the warrant against google to open up their vaults of info and actually prove that what they say is happening actually is happening. Then sue them for frivolous lawsuits.
Why is it always those that don’t have the talent to do anything of value who impose the biggest burden on those who can? I can’t stand thieves and ne’er do wells who exist only to leech off the hard-earned rewards of other. Good for you Austin for defending yourself!
All these lawyers involved in patent troll law suits are pitiful to me. What sorry creatures that could not get a decent job in life. This line of work can't really be gratifying to the soul. They are just greedy and it is despicable.
Patent trolls >< ughh. It's infuriating that you have to go through this, but thanks for standing up to these extortionists. I hope that one day you and all the other business owners that won't take one lying down are vindicated and the trolls have to pay all your fees plus some penalties. Keep fighting man, you are the head on the spear that will lead to patent reform.
The US patent / legal system sounds like a real Mickey Mouse gong show. At least just about everywhere else you could at least counter sue for incurred legal costs if they lose.
Why are Google allowing this to happen? Google have the legal resources to stop this issue dead, or at the very least severely curtail the willingness of these patent trolls to attempt it again in the future. It's not good for Google's business to ignore this since they are reliant on people developing third party apps for their store.
These patent trolls successfully file lawsuits against huge companies all the time. Intel, Apple, Dell and HP are among the victims. Apart from being able to buy your way out by agreeing to settle there really isnt that much that money and power changes in this situation. This one particular patent-racket that Austin Meyer fell victim to consisted of two judges and their lawyer sons. Whenever a case actually goes to court there and they do lose, the judges do not make their family patent trolls pay the defendants legal fees, so there you go: they have nothing to lose.
this is crazy! In ISRAEL if someone or some entity is filing more then a certain number of lawsuits a year, he/she is being considered as a "serial sewer", and then, if they submit a lawsuit, the court will force them to deposit into a special account a sum of money equal to, or proportional to the defense cost of the other side. this deposit will not be returned if they loose... this is very effective! and its only a simple law, no need for drastic changes...
Man, i'm a Computer Scientist, and i have recently been doing some research about patents, and i have found out that more Software Patents are filed every year, than any other kind of patents. And most of the software patents are held by either patent trolls, or major companies, so it's so freaking hard to make new innovations to the software industry, like a new application, or a new digital product, to better assist humanity, because some dickhead somewhere will be waiting for a new innovation to file a lawsuit upon. I'm literally scared to build any apps now, i don't want to go through courts and waste time in lawsuits, i just want to code and make stuff. Not be worried about all this other crap.
Very rarely have I felt such a pure form of unadulterated hatred towards human beings. And to think all this is legal is practically making my blood boil.
Thank you for standing your ground I thank our Founder Fathers and Vets would thank you and I hope it's possible for you and the others to band together and find out and post the name of the people suing you and help put an end to It. One thing for sure one day all flight schools will use a Flight - Sim in there training and I think it's possible for students to land the aircraft on there first flight using a Flight Sim and ground training device like a Rat, As a piloti see the advance in using a product in training or to improve skills Good luck and who knows you may come up with a low cost well build flight set up that will be in all flight schools like others did building computers at home and now make millions each day. I have never look at X -Plane buy just from your work in the other video it must rock Thanks keep up the good work
Can we make the names of all of Uniloc's personnel, advisors and anyone who received a penny or anything from Uniloc? These folks need to be named and shamed.
congrats Austin, may the force be with you! i hope you got your money back for the first three years efforts back with interest and some compensation for your time,
The price of living in such a permissive society is that it allows people with no useful talents or work ethic to feed off the hard won success of those who actually produce value.
Actually I'm surprised they've left the radio manufacturers alone. I'm a Ham operator and all my radios fit their patent. I wonder why they've left Yaesu, Icom and Kenwood out of it?
Congratulations Austin. You've made infinitely more progress than I did. I paid my troll a sum, that I cannot disclose, rather than closing my American business and putting all my employees out if work. Good luck getting back your costs.
@@igvc1876 ...but as an Englishman, running a business registered in the UK, it's not my government. Now were did I hear "No taxation without representation"?
@@davejesse949 it's your government which issues the patent since a US patent is not valid in the UK. Should you infringe on a patent registered in the UK, the person whose patent it is, not their government, has a right to sue you.
@@igvc1876 Sorry, I should have made myself clear. The patent we were accused of infringing was a US patent, citing techniques that were in common use. For example, the use of red/orange/green color coding for the importance of a message. This was deemed novel by the US patent office in 2000.
@@davejesse949 In order for you to infringe on a US patent from outside the US when selling to non US customers, the US patent must have been registered with the UK patent office. USPTO's patents cannot be enforced in the UK unless the patent is registered in the UK.
I don't understand law ... but shouldn't it be possible to "undo" patents, which were vague, and prosecute those who made it a patent? I think that patents should be reviewed by experts in the field and these experts should carry the responsibility for their work.
Maybe not prosecute but if the patent trolls are found to be aggressive as hell on meaningless patents (I especially LOVE the fact that they're going for smaller businesses and not Apple or Google, who would fuck them up), they NEED to be punished with super high fees going towards the defendant.
We cheer for you Austin and hold you in high regard. These troll mofo's are the scum of the Earth. The Patent office is supporting criminals by allowing them to patent an idea of words rather than an actual useful product. The entire mess is criminal and I feel sorry for you and wish you a precedenting win with a huge pay back from Uni-Crock. Thank you for pulling the rock off those pricks and exposing them to the world.
How about filling a patent which describes the exact method of patent-trolling? Couldn't you then sue anyone who files a blatantly frivolous lawsuit using that method?
Austin you're the best. Best flight sim available :) You own your work. I've watched it develop since at least version 6 or 7. So happy with 11... and can't wait til my PC has a graphics card with at least 1 GB of VRAM so it'll run over 15 fps lol, since that makes my flights take up to twice as long as normal. Now we have the best payware aircraft even for airliners, in my opinion. The Rotate MD-80, the IXEG aircraft, ..so many. Take care of yourself. Also, someday it'd be cool to have an ATC similar to FSX or something but my big wish right now is 1) Seasons in X-Plane 11 by default and 2) a fix for people with slower older PCs like me to prevent the clouds from lagging the FPS as much. No complaints.. that stuff's on me (what hardware I have).
If their patent was filed in 2001, it should be void this year correct me if I am wrong? It's either 20 or 25 years utility patents expire if I remember correctly.
fucking false tital, he never once claimed he won, he said he got 1 claim overturned but then the other company said he infringed on 2 others and he is still fighting them.
I wonder if they are suing Google too? Maybe, smaller companies are an easier mark, but Google has all the money. If every single company selling software on Google Play is being sued by Unilock, there must be some pressure to get this thing resolved.
I watch The Patent Scam today. I cried and prayed for the victims. I cannot believe that the senate wouldn't pass a policy to fix this. My God pass judgment on all those involved in the scam. I do want to know why didn't you turn around and sue Apple or Google for making the app that caused you to get sued?
The day the great American dream turned into a nightmare. I hope you win and topple this one, Austin. I hope that you can be the one person that finds a way to win and to allow people to use it as that one great response and mother of all pardons: 'precedence....'
There is no way you can lose the case, because if you lose the case, no Developer will make apps for Android, and Google will have to step in to do something about it.
If I could take this 1 step further. Going by how the process was expected to unfold (Pay Uniloc $50 000 and forget it), am I right in assuming that they can keep on asking for more and more money after each patent infringement is settled?
Seriously. The lawyers. Their father, who are the judges that let these lawsuits go forward. This is worse than the mafia because they're abusing the law system. No tear would be shed if they all "disappeared".
Not one tear would be shed by ANYONE if those responsible for this were to go through the worst torture imaginable publicly. They are the antithesis of what America is about. Samsung built an ice rink in front of the court in the east texas court where the judges facilitating this extreme waste of people's lives and money reside. I can't fu&king believe it. This needs to stop swiftly with those responsible serving time in MaxiSec, and that's a soft punishment IMHO.
That's what I said. But these days it could be the Mafia that's doing it. I'd gladly have them bumped off. For real. This guy creates something wonderful and innocent, for people to enjoy. It's been hard work, a long road..... And some cunt comes along and legally robs them!? It's absurd. How the fuck can anybody patent a software company accessing a fucking database, to make sure that the person bought the software!? It's vile. The lowest rat form way to make money.
The lawyers make a ton of money on this stuff and the people that make these laws including the patent laws are LAWYERS! Why would they do anything to change a corrupt system that benefits them??????
@@LesActive sorry, but it just sounds like a really pathetic excuse to avoid having a business or being creative. One doesn't have to do those things of course to be useful in life (i did word it too strongly), but using that as an excuse to not do those things is ridiculous and sounds like an excuse for something you don't want to do for other reasons (which is perfectly fine to not want to do)
@@igvc1876 It was tongue in cheek cynical sarcasm. I don't write manifestos on here, just comments, not always serious. I work in creative industries that suffer from rampant parasitism by the uncreative, much like patent trolls. My attitude has a basis and while it's not pretty, there it is.
IP Europe chief denounces ‘patent troll myth’ The head of a corporate alliance that includes Nokia and Ericsson has urged the EU to ignore the so-called ‘patent troll myth', which he said has “little basis in fact”.In a letter to The Financial Times, published today, January 21, IP Europe executive secretary Francisco Mingorance said that the narrative of abusive litigation by ‘patent trolls’ was a “calculated attempt to create a false rationale for weakening the patent protections of technology innovators in Europe”.
One thing I don't get is how Austin Meyer is possibly liable for this. Shouldn't the patent trolls be suing google for the google play store? They're the ones using a list of names to charge people or whatever.
This literally makes my blood boil. And they wonder why people take matters into Thier own hands. You have a good guy running a small business, employing people and someone else can just swan along and completely LEGALLY scam the crap out of them
That they were able to get the patent office to overturn, that its not a LEGIT patent. So cant be used to sue people. Well, at least the FIRST part.. not all the other sub parts >.>
This is everyones problem, not just his.We loose a great product or pay triple for it and the criminals continue to grow and spread more corruption. Sadly, the problem is from the top down.
it's called a corrupted system. It happens all the time, You could say you could just demand a dismissal or some crap, but that's where it's corrupted. The smart move just isn't allowed.
This is a criticism of the PTO, not the Article III judicial system. I am afraid you didn't beat the Patent Trolls in court, you made a collateral attack through the executive branch which issues the patent. Of course, patents should be harder to get, but that is the PTO's fault for giving them out so blithely, and apparently making it difficult and expensive to correct their mistakes.
Proof that the American Patent system is very badly broken. And why don't the Patent office use some common sense before issuing patents on something that is so obviously not an original idea, in other words do their jobs properly? Back in the 80's computers were used to look up people on lists. its so obvious it should not need to be said. It's not just the patent owners that are to blame here!
A PATENT HAS TO BE NEW AND USEFUL. SHOW THAT ALL CLAIMS ARE NOT NEW AND USEFUL BUT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CREATED AND HAVE THE WHOLE PATENT TO BE VOIDED. THIS SHOULD BE THE JOB OF THE PATENT OFFICE. ONE CAN FILE A LAWSUIT FOR ALMOST ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THE PATENT OFFICE CONFIRM TO YOU THAT THIS PATENT COMPLIES WITH 35 USC AND IS VALID. CAN YOU CHALLENGE THE VALIDITY OF THE PATENT TO THE PATENT OFFICE. NO PATENT NO LAWSUIT.
Hi, as an citizen of the U.K. I can't for the life of me think why the small business people do not All get together on this and pole Google. Apple. Microsoft and any other company out there about how they are going to sort out this stupid dilemma, I don't mean just by email but by telephone as well. If these big companies end up having their phone lines and email addresses blocked They may get off their backsides and do something about this nonsense and help the little guy out there After all they were once the little guysAll the best to all you people in the US of A
Of course the whole thing is crazy, but the part that makes the least sense to me are there super high legal fees. How do they get the number that it will take 3 million in legal fees to fight the (stupid) claim?
Just out of curiosity mr. Meyer..Is www.uniloc.com/ Uniloc's website? Because I'm telling you that website is dodgy as hell. I'm a QA Engineer, so I'm used to look at not just Java-code, but javascript and html. That website has tons of stuff hidden away in the HTML. Including statements like: " Uniloc is in the business of finding big ideas. In the device recognition space, for example, we believe that we have uncovered a billion dollar market. We have focused on technology that is incredibly complex to develop, but elegantly simple to execute. And it fits our straightforward development model. Look at many ideas. Pick an outstanding one. Patent it. Commercialize it. Reap the rewards.."
"Uniloc is not a huge company in the number of people we employ. But we hope to make a huge impact on the way people live and the way companies operate." Well, they aren't wrong.
google & apple should defiantly fight those battle for the developers.
It would for sure be in their best interest because if this becomes an even bigger issue, people will just stop using google play.
yup
And what would they turn to? AFAIK there's no such thing as selling your product online without SOME sort of name-in-a-list lookup happening.
It would be futile... shell companies fold under no pressure and can easily pop back up under a new name. There is no cash flow within the shell company as it would be drained by the time of the law suit, meaning google would be spending time and resources without any compensation.
Seems to me if enough developers quit using the Google Play store citing these attacks, Google would come on board. Until it costs them, they won't and don't care.
Damn, I wish more people would support this guy's business just so he could fight these patent trolls in court.
I just did. Got the X-plane 11.
Me too. Didn't know about this until after I bought it, but still.
I suggest someone patent the Patent Trolls business model, then patent troll the shit out of them.
I have a patent for suggesting a plan to patent such business idea. Give me $50 000.
You can't patent business models. But maybe if we add "using a computer" to the patent then it'll get granted.
Actually, you can patent an idea. Thats good enough.
I think he made it clear that the Patent Office is so inept that we can patent literally *any idea*.
I patent "wearing socks"!
The real money is made by the attorneys. Maybe the attorneys on both sides have a racketeering scheme going.
Legal racketeering. I worked for a company that went under for this very same issue. The lawyer bills broke the bank for them. 7 years millions of dollars.
The plaintiffs & their attorneys are one in the same and have shared interest. They have no need of the defense attorney
X-Plane is an awesome flight sim. Support this company!!!
The company is called ' Laminar '
X-Plane is on its last legs before becoming history.
bet MFS is now your sim
MSFS COUGH COUGH
@@outbackgaming6385 defo not. msfs flight model sucks imo
Austin, been a supporter of X-Plane since I got my first copy in the early 2000s of X-Plane 6. Hell if I can remember how many CDs it came on, it was a lot with all the land files. Keep up the good fight, I can't wait until X-Plane 11.
Keep going Austin!
Thanks for standing up on this...You are awesome.
How the hell can the justice system allow this shit to happen?
These scumbag lawyers usually have money. Also, the lawyers suing this guy are the sons of the judges in the district. The judges are the ones letting the case go forward.
I just don't understand how this stuff can be allowed.
Because the general public is not allowed the enforce the law themselves....
That is no reason to allow rich people with powerfull family members to abuse the weaker parts of society.
1) there are lawyers and judges who benefit from this
2) there are lawmakers (aka politicians) who benefit from this (so they have reasons not to change any appicable laws)
Name them, shame them, shout about it and make it publicly known. In the meantime, perhaps, help crowdfund defence against these practices and in the end, hopefully, the law(s) will be changed because of pure pressure from the people and these practices will stop.
My thought on solving the patent troll problem would be file a patent for the litigation process used by the trolls and sue their asses for infringement every time a patent suit is filed by entity
Counter sue uni lock for an unlawful accusation. 1 billion dollars for lost revenue and on going harassment. I won a trial in the past and 6 months later my lawyer told me we should sue them for the above, so we did and won. Wasn't a huge case but non the less I stuck it to them haha. Got to luv the "system" people use it to take advantage of others than just turn it around and throw it back in their face.
They will just close up stop and start again under a new corporate veil.
Yup, and if they set themselves up as directors they take absolutely no liability.
There's nothing to sue for. They produce no goods and their earnings are dispersed to owners as soon as the proceeds from the suit have been received.
They have a lawful patent. They not only have a right, but a duty to defend it. These guys likely bought the patent because it is something that never should have been approved and with hundreds of different things inside it, it would take billions to fight the whole thing. Its a loophole in the system that just makes innovation and owning a small business that much harder
@@BonanzaPilot It's so intriguing that the patent and trademark office can essentially create out of thin air the method for transferring wealth in such a dubious way. It is not as if the "inventor" of this patent did anything useful for society which patents are there to protect, but they were admittedly very clever in their wording of the patent. The patent was resurrected so many years later and applied to the App store, something that wasn't really a thing back in 2001 before widespread high speed internet use. And it's all so fascinating and useless. Those folks all could be contributing to the economy but they are leeching off a patent that was never put to use and too vague to ever be describing original innovation in the first place. You could even argue that with modern databases you are not looking up "a name" but actually the UTF-8 representation of a name, first by a hash match, and then a comparison. Maybe I could patent that and get rich!!! oh wait I have morals and ethics and will actually positively contribute to society.
What also screws these companies is that if they do settle they also sign a non disclosure so they can’t even report or warn others. Fair play to this guy for standing up to them. Keep an eye out for his hour long film on this. Very good and a worthy watch.
Outrageous. Maybe you should sue the patent office for not performing due diligence. In the UK, many years ago a patent was once issued to an Italian washing-machine manufacturer (Zanussi) for what boiled down to a potentiometer! That got rescinded when challenged.
Thank you for fighting to expose these crooks!
Sounds like extortion, I’m glad your upholding your principles..
I think the title is misleading. He didn't really win in the end.
Why don't your lawyers simply ask them to prove what they're saying?
Show an actual instance where Google is violating their "patent". I betcha they couldn't get the warrant against google to open up their vaults of info and actually prove that what they say is happening actually is happening.
Then sue them for frivolous lawsuits.
Why is it always those that don’t have the talent to do anything of value who impose the biggest burden on those who can? I can’t stand thieves and ne’er do wells who exist only to leech off the hard-earned rewards of other. Good for you Austin for defending yourself!
All these lawyers involved in patent troll law suits are pitiful to me. What sorry creatures that could not get a decent job in life. This line of work can't really be gratifying to the soul. They are just greedy and it is despicable.
Patent trolls >< ughh. It's infuriating that you have to go through this, but thanks for standing up to these extortionists. I hope that one day you and all the other business owners that won't take one lying down are vindicated and the trolls have to pay all your fees plus some penalties. Keep fighting man, you are the head on the spear that will lead to patent reform.
This man is a genius. X-Plane flight physics feel so good, I enjoy every second in my A321
The US patent / legal system sounds like a real Mickey Mouse gong show. At least just about everywhere else you could at least counter sue for incurred legal costs if they lose.
Why are Google allowing this to happen?
Google have the legal resources to stop this issue dead, or at the very least severely curtail the willingness of these patent trolls to attempt it again in the future.
It's not good for Google's business to ignore this since they are reliant on people developing third party apps for their store.
These patent trolls successfully file lawsuits against huge companies all the time. Intel, Apple, Dell and HP are among the victims. Apart from being able to buy your way out by agreeing to settle there really isnt that much that money and power changes in this situation.
This one particular patent-racket that Austin Meyer fell victim to consisted of two judges and their lawyer sons. Whenever a case actually goes to court there and they do lose, the judges do not make their family patent trolls pay the defendants legal fees, so there you go: they have nothing to lose.
I just found your bobble head inside my Cessna while playing x-plane 11
yeah, it’s him
this is crazy! In ISRAEL if someone or some entity is filing more then a certain number of lawsuits a year, he/she is being considered as a "serial sewer", and then, if they submit a lawsuit, the court will force them to deposit into a special account a sum of money equal to, or proportional to the defense cost of the other side. this deposit will not be returned if they loose... this is very effective! and its only a simple law, no need for drastic changes...
Man, i'm a Computer Scientist, and i have recently been doing some research about patents,
and i have found out that more Software Patents are filed every year, than any other kind of patents.
And most of the software patents are held by either patent trolls, or major companies,
so it's so freaking hard to make new innovations to the software industry, like a new application, or a new digital product, to better assist humanity, because some dickhead somewhere will be waiting for a new innovation to file a lawsuit upon.
I'm literally scared to build any apps now, i don't want to go through courts and waste time in lawsuits, i just want to code and make stuff. Not be worried about all this other crap.
stop coming up with excuses. people who build and do stuff don't give a sh**t and just do it.
Software patents are bullshit in general
Very rarely have I felt such a pure form of unadulterated hatred towards human beings. And to think all this is legal is practically making my blood boil.
Thank you for standing your ground I thank our Founder Fathers and Vets would thank you and I hope it's possible for you and the others to band together and find out and post the name of the people suing you and help put an end to It.
One thing for sure one day all flight schools will use a Flight - Sim in there training and I think it's possible for students to land the aircraft on there first flight using a Flight Sim and ground training device like a Rat, As a piloti see the advance in using a product in training or to improve skills
Good luck and who knows you may come up with a low cost well build flight set up that will be in all flight schools like others did building computers at home and now make millions each day.
I have never look at X -Plane buy just from your work in the other video it must rock
Thanks keep up the good work
Hi Austin,
Hope you got over these trolls and got the damages from them too.
Best wishes and Good Luck.
Can we make the names of all of Uniloc's personnel, advisors and anyone who received a penny or anything from Uniloc? These folks need to be named and shamed.
congrats Austin, may the force be with you!
i hope you got your money back for the first three years efforts back with interest and some compensation for your time,
Save us from corruption. You are a hero.
The price of living in such a permissive society is that it allows people with no useful talents or work ethic to feed off the hard won success of those who actually produce value.
Actually I'm surprised they've left the radio manufacturers alone. I'm a Ham operator and all my radios fit their patent. I wonder why they've left Yaesu, Icom and Kenwood out of it?
Does anyone know what happened about this? It's been 4 years now.
To me it seems like the lawsuit with be with the playstore as opposed to the person selling the app on their store
Congratulations Austin. You've made infinitely more progress than I did. I paid my troll a sum, that I cannot disclose, rather than closing my American business and putting all my employees out if work.
Good luck getting back your costs.
tbh trolls aren't doing anything illegal, so we can't really blame them. We should blame our govt for allowing it to happen.
@@igvc1876 ...but as an Englishman, running a business registered in the UK, it's not my government. Now were did I hear "No taxation without representation"?
@@davejesse949 it's your government which issues the patent since a US patent is not valid in the UK. Should you infringe on a patent registered in the UK, the person whose patent it is, not their government, has a right to sue you.
@@igvc1876 Sorry, I should have made myself clear. The patent we were accused of infringing was a US patent, citing techniques that were in common use. For example, the use of red/orange/green color coding for the importance of a message. This was deemed novel by the US patent office in 2000.
@@davejesse949 In order for you to infringe on a US patent from outside the US when selling to non US customers, the US patent must have been registered with the UK patent office. USPTO's patents cannot be enforced in the UK unless the patent is registered in the UK.
Wait so do the people suing still have to pay to sue? Or only the defendant has to pay to defend himself ?
What a world we live in
I don't understand law ... but shouldn't it be possible to "undo" patents, which were vague, and prosecute those who made it a patent? I think that patents should be reviewed by experts in the field and these experts should carry the responsibility for their work.
Maybe not prosecute but if the patent trolls are found to be aggressive as hell on meaningless patents (I especially LOVE the fact that they're going for smaller businesses and not Apple or Google, who would fuck them up), they NEED to be punished with super high fees going towards the defendant.
Dang, that's crazy they kept filing lawsuits. I think most judges would just toss it out of court after looking into it.
Astounding. So sorry, Austin. I'm sure someone has pointed out that other forms of defense are far cheaper.
We cheer for you Austin and hold you in high regard. These troll mofo's are the scum of the Earth. The Patent office is supporting criminals by allowing them to patent an idea of words rather than an actual useful product. The entire mess is criminal and I feel sorry for you and wish you a precedenting win with a huge pay back from Uni-Crock. Thank you for pulling the rock off those pricks and exposing them to the world.
Does this take place before or after he tracks down those poor excuses of offices?
Also, this is guy is an inspiration.
Holy crap!!!! I am an Xplane user and will stay with Xplane!!!!!
How about filling a patent which describes the exact method of patent-trolling?
Couldn't you then sue anyone who files a blatantly frivolous lawsuit using that method?
Austin you're the best. Best flight sim available :) You own your work. I've watched it develop since at least version 6 or 7. So happy with 11... and can't wait til my PC has a graphics card with at least 1 GB of VRAM so it'll run over 15 fps lol, since that makes my flights take up to twice as long as normal. Now we have the best payware aircraft even for airliners, in my opinion. The Rotate MD-80, the IXEG aircraft, ..so many. Take care of yourself. Also, someday it'd be cool to have an ATC similar to FSX or something but my big wish right now is 1) Seasons in X-Plane 11 by default and 2) a fix for people with slower older PCs like me to prevent the clouds from lagging the FPS as much. No complaints.. that stuff's on me (what hardware I have).
looks like 11 will be the last version
If their patent was filed in 2001, it should be void this year correct me if I am wrong? It's either 20 or 25 years utility patents expire if I remember correctly.
fucking false tital, he never once claimed he won, he said he got 1 claim overturned but then the other company said he infringed on 2 others and he is still fighting them.
lol you can't even spell title correctly so stfu
And you apparently can't read, else you wouldn't talk such BS.
+thelasthallow ...show us the sources of your "facts".
Rod Salcido
The source is this video, jesus.
The 19th Fighter must have been the only person on where who watched the whole damn video, i congratulate you sir for that alone.
This is even too absurd for a Family Guy episode.
I think Austin is famous enough to make an appearance as a character, though. :)
South Park could run with the idea!
I wonder if they are suing Google too? Maybe, smaller companies are an easier mark, but Google has all the money. If every single company selling software on Google Play is being sued by Unilock, there must be some pressure to get this thing resolved.
He needs to go full Heisenburg on this guy.
Me in 2022: again, what was the uniloc thingy all about? Never heard of em
I watch The Patent Scam today. I cried and prayed for the victims. I cannot believe that the senate wouldn't pass a policy to fix this. My God pass judgment on all those involved in the scam.
I do want to know why didn't you turn around and sue Apple or Google for making the app that caused you to get sued?
The day the great American dream turned into a nightmare. I hope you win and topple this one, Austin. I hope that you can be the one person that finds a way to win and to allow people to use it as that one great response and mother of all pardons: 'precedence....'
There is no way you can lose the case, because if you lose the case, no Developer will make apps for Android, and Google will have to step in to do something about it.
If I could take this 1 step further. Going by how the process was expected to unfold (Pay Uniloc $50 000 and forget it), am I right in assuming that they can keep on asking for more and more money after each patent infringement is settled?
Basically, yes.
PAY A HITMAN
Seriously. The lawyers. Their father, who are the judges that let these lawsuits go forward. This is worse than the mafia because they're abusing the law system. No tear would be shed if they all "disappeared".
the law is now a business, not a dispenser of justice.
Not one tear would be shed by ANYONE if those responsible for this were to go through the worst torture imaginable publicly. They are the antithesis of what America is about. Samsung built an ice rink in front of the court in the east texas court where the judges facilitating this extreme waste of people's lives and money reside. I can't fu&king believe it. This needs to stop swiftly with those responsible serving time in MaxiSec, and that's a soft punishment IMHO.
That's what I said.
But these days it could be the Mafia that's doing it.
I'd gladly have them bumped off. For real.
This guy creates something wonderful and innocent, for people to enjoy. It's been hard work, a long road..... And some cunt comes along and legally robs them!?
It's absurd.
How the fuck can anybody patent a software company accessing a fucking database, to make sure that the person bought the software!?
It's vile.
The lowest rat form way to make money.
Thanks for fighting the fight!
This is why you can’t patent software in the uk.
And an idea has to be original, not prior art and definitely not something that is manifestly obvious.
This guy didnt write any code, he contracted out to asia and india and then corrected a few grammatical errors and called it his own.
This video has been striked for copyright infringement.
How many hundreds of thousands of dollars did it cost to get the patent overturned, and could we get a breakdown of that cost?
Trolls and wolves. Glad to see your a man with a spine. Not abundant these days.
The lawyers make a ton of money on this stuff and the people that make these laws including the patent laws are LAWYERS! Why would they do anything to change a corrupt system that benefits them??????
Amazes me that Google doesn't go after these trolls?
please bring all these scams to light and make these people pay
not really a scam - they are doing what's allowed to be done by the system. the system is the problem
The wonderful thing is... HE WON!
So is there no real suit one can do to stop them ?
I am with you from France Austin :) Keep Going
Thank you for reminding me to never get a business license and to avoid being creative.
whatever excuse you need to avoid doing something useful with your life.
@@igvc1876 One can do useful things without license or patents. That was my point. It wasn't 'don't do anything ever'. Self-righteous much?
@@LesActive sorry, but it just sounds like a really pathetic excuse to avoid having a business or being creative. One doesn't have to do those things of course to be useful in life (i did word it too strongly), but using that as an excuse to not do those things is ridiculous and sounds like an excuse for something you don't want to do for other reasons (which is perfectly fine to not want to do)
@@igvc1876 It was tongue in cheek cynical sarcasm. I don't write manifestos on here, just comments, not always serious. I work in creative industries that suffer from rampant parasitism by the uncreative, much like patent trolls. My attitude has a basis and while it's not pretty, there it is.
So many lawyers that they must be occupied with something.
Hopefully there is a way of countersuing to recoup your losses due to these frivolous lawsuits
How is it going to cost $3M to fight the suit? Could we get a breakdown of that?
hourly legal fees. a good corporate lawyer is at least $1000/hour (sometimes $2k or $3k) - so it's just a year or less of work
so where's the part were he wins?
*Microsoft Flight Simulator* ? (Created in the 1980's.)
Does X-Plane pre-date that software?
0:50 It doesn't matter if you have never seen a patent. You can still be violating it by accident.
Your story is unbelievable. I wonder if this only happens in the US, or in other countries too.
IP Europe chief denounces
‘patent troll myth’
The head of a corporate alliance that includes Nokia and Ericsson has urged the EU to ignore the so-called ‘patent troll myth', which he said has “little basis in fact”.In a letter to The Financial Times, published today, January 21, IP Europe executive secretary Francisco Mingorance said that the narrative of abusive litigation by ‘patent trolls’ was a “calculated attempt to create a false rationale for weakening the patent protections of technology innovators in Europe”.
One thing I don't get is how Austin Meyer is possibly liable for this. Shouldn't the patent trolls be suing google for the google play store? They're the ones using a list of names to charge people or whatever.
3 mio $, I would have found a new lawyer right away....
This literally makes my blood boil. And they wonder why people take matters into Thier own hands. You have a good guy running a small business, employing people and someone else can just swan along and completely LEGALLY scam the crap out of them
How exactly did he win here? What did I miss?
That they were able to get the patent office to overturn, that its not a LEGIT patent. So cant be used to sue people.
Well, at least the FIRST part.. not all the other sub parts >.>
So how did he win?
This is everyones problem, not just his.We loose a great product or pay triple for it and the criminals continue to grow and spread more corruption. Sadly, the problem is from the top down.
They are sickening. they are sad sad little men or maybe even women.. who would happily do anything to ruin a small business if it means they get $$
well done Austin!
Can they still sue you if they are dead?
Why isn't it the case that the party that loses pays all the costs of the other party plus a fine decided by the judge?
It is decided by the judge but the judge has a conflict of interest considering the people suing and representing are his children and their friends.
it's called a corrupted system. It happens all the time, You could say you could just demand a dismissal or some crap, but that's where it's corrupted. The smart move just isn't allowed.
This is a criticism of the PTO, not the Article III judicial system. I am afraid you didn't beat the Patent Trolls in court, you made a collateral attack through the executive branch which issues the patent. Of course, patents should be harder to get, but that is the PTO's fault for giving them out so blithely, and apparently making it difficult and expensive to correct their mistakes.
they are also dishonest and laughable. I can't take patents seriously! I just can't! It reeks of bs.
Proof that the American Patent system is very badly broken. And why don't the Patent office use some common sense before issuing patents on something that is so obviously not an original idea, in other words do their jobs properly? Back in the 80's computers were used to look up people on lists. its so obvious it should not need to be said. It's not just the patent owners that are to blame here!
Fucked up, snakes out here
Yep sounds crazy. Keep selling the product.
A PATENT HAS TO BE NEW AND USEFUL. SHOW THAT ALL CLAIMS ARE NOT NEW AND USEFUL BUT HAVE ALREADY BEEN CREATED AND HAVE THE WHOLE PATENT TO BE VOIDED. THIS SHOULD BE THE JOB OF THE PATENT OFFICE. ONE CAN FILE A LAWSUIT FOR ALMOST ANYTHING. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT NOW TO HAVE THE PATENT OFFICE CONFIRM TO YOU THAT THIS PATENT COMPLIES WITH 35 USC AND IS VALID. CAN YOU CHALLENGE THE VALIDITY OF THE PATENT TO THE PATENT OFFICE. NO PATENT NO LAWSUIT.
Hi, as an citizen of the U.K. I can't for the life of me think why the small business people do not All get together on this and pole Google. Apple. Microsoft and any other company out there about how they are going to sort out this stupid dilemma, I don't mean just by email but by telephone as well. If these big companies end up having their phone lines and email addresses blocked They may get off their backsides and do something about this nonsense and help the little guy out there After all they were once the little guysAll the best to all you people in the US of A
Of course the whole thing is crazy, but the part that makes the least sense to me are there super high legal fees.
How do they get the number that it will take 3 million in legal fees to fight the (stupid) claim?
Outrageous.....their is no justice in America
These are just shakedowns! The people, lawyers and judges involved in these scams should be hanged.
where's the part where he wins
Just out of curiosity mr. Meyer..Is www.uniloc.com/ Uniloc's website? Because I'm telling you that website is dodgy as hell. I'm a QA Engineer, so I'm used to look at not just Java-code, but javascript and html. That website has tons of stuff hidden away in the HTML. Including statements like:
"
Uniloc is in the business of finding big ideas. In the device recognition space, for example, we believe that we have uncovered a billion dollar market. We have focused on technology that is incredibly complex to develop, but elegantly simple to execute. And it fits our straightforward development model. Look at many ideas. Pick an outstanding one. Patent it. Commercialize it. Reap the rewards.."
Someone should let www.gustavolanzas.com/ know that he's basically part of the problem and should intentionally break the site. ;)
For those wondering :
On the uniloc website, right click anywhere and choose "view source code". Browse down to line 133.
"Uniloc is not a huge company in the number of people we employ. But we hope to make a huge impact on the way people live and the way companies operate."
Well, they aren't wrong.
Father of Xplane thanks
how'd he win????
welcome to F-USA!!!!