Truly hurts when some people call 11-14 as a second gen charger. The real second gen chargers are 1968-70. 06-10 chargers are First gen LX, 11-current are Second gen LD.
I have a 2011 with the 5.7 V8 - what I can report is that the front end suspensions on these cars wear out FAST (I had a 2009 before this, and the parts are nearly if not exactly the same). Fortunately, the parts are easy to find and replace (I've done it a few times).
@@clarencewatkins1634 can vouch for this, have an 07 RT charger and the front end wears out like nothing... heard the suspension on the 15 and up models is better though
yesterday there was a a 2015 state trooper charger drove past me and for some reason it had a roar going at a normal speed, it sounded like a normal charger R/T that would drive past you but i was shocked to hear a state trooper car sound like an R/T. Im starting to think they forgot to put police package on the exhaust.
if you ever watched Fast Five there was a part and time where dom, brian han and rome was racing 2nd gen pursuit dodge chargers, they made a few mistakes while filming, you gotta pay real close attention to the windows and the taillights, i ended up seeing 1st gen chargers from the side views and when they drove past the camrea the CGI made it look like a 2nd gen charger that was the first seeing i noticed with the pursuit chargers in the movie. when dom and them lined up at the stop light they was revving their chargers and the first thing i noticed was there was a supercharger whine on brians car and these engines of sound effects did not sound like 5.7s, they had to be stock 3.6l or stock 5.7s, idk i just noticed that.
Police complained about the COMFORT of their ride?!?!? Maybe they should have bought a fleet of lexus ls460s with tax payer money. Apparently the iconic muscle car wasn't posh enough.
Great video as always brother! I want to purchase a police charger from auction from this gen. This is helpful, thanks! Also would love to see the next gen police car video from you.
I once sat in the back seats of a Charger Police car but it's not because of violation or anything but rather I had to get a short lift to some convention event going on far away from home and the bus lines only went as far as 2-3 KM away from the destination. The officer was thankfully kind and helped me in dropping me there. It's embarrassing nevertheless and one that made me want to get my driver's licenses right away. As for the 2011-2014 Chargers it self, I still see them being here in Bahrain used although it's been largely replaced by the newer 2015+ Chargers.
This info is woefully outdated. In 2019, FCA Fleet sold about 21,000 Charger Pursuit models. About 10,000 of those were the 5.7 AWD model, 6000 were 5.7 RWD, and 5000 were V6. Pricing for the 2019s were a little lower than previous models: V6 - about $20,500 V8 - about $22,000 AWD - $23,500 For 2020, the ordering window was very short, as supplies of new A580 5-spd transmissions were depleted (Kokomo had discontinued production in August of 2018). Just 2 models were offered- the V6 and AWD. For 2021, the plan is to offer 4 models: a RWD & AWD V6 (850RE), and a RWD and AWD V8 (8HP70). While various rumors exist to the discontinuance of the AWD V8 model, the Jeep system is expected to be used in the Charger. The new Charger, a re-engineered LD architecture, is expected in late 2022 as a 2023 model. Fleet has confirmed the Pursuit models will continue.
@@MarspeedCars Allpar has the latest. FCA Fleet has confirmed they are dedicated to the police sedan market, and there will be Charger Pursuit models without interruption after the very short 2020 model year. The Durango program was enhanced in January with a number of Charger Pursuit features incorporated into the popular SUV police models (Pursuit and SSV). They do not plan on achieving a Pursuit rating for the Rsm SSV, as it already exceeds the performance of the F-150 Responder.
ur fucking right, i spun out on the highway because of snow lol. Im so glad she stayed in one piece and the only hurt thing was my ego and not a family.
@@UptownKidd757 16k for a 54k mile 5.7 V8? Take it before someone else does, my mint condition 58k mile 3.7L FPIU V6 was 23k when I bought it and the explorer is less powerful than a charger. Tho is it AWD or RWD?
I have a 2014 enforcer it's basically a GT with RT gearing and LSD but I will say the ride is stiff for sure but much less body roll at least then my previous car a 300
MDS is not the cause of the lifter issue. Oil is not the cause of the lifter issue. The cause of the lifter issue is ... lifters. SRT - they do the engineering for all Pusuit models - began using what enthusiasts refer to as "Hellcat lifters" beginning in 2019. So far, there have been zero warranty claims with those cars.
great video I'm looking at 2013 for sale online and it looks like they got most of the bugs worked out from 11-12's which is good I'll update if I end up getting it
Nice job with the video! It’s funny to see those police cars with the single light on top that truck drivers called bubble gum machines.😂 I saw on Live PD in South Carolina some police were driving Challengers. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇨🇦
@@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703 I worked at two of DCX/FCA large suppliers, including the one I work at now. Their quality specs have gone down in a major way, especially since Fiat runs the show.
@@gillesthibault429 I used to work at a Ford authorized transmission remanufacturing company. I remember when a fleet operator in Japan sent us a whole shipment of brand new unused 4R70W transmissions to overhaul because the factory build quality was not up to their standards.
If we're talking about classic Chargers 66-67 will always be my all-time favorite charger but I like both gens of the LX platform Chargers although I prefer the styling of the 2011 to 2014 though
bruh I didn’t say anything about the classic chargers. I was comparing these two generations. Never a question about any of the first gens, second gens, third gens, or current gens. Seriously. I mean what do you mean “if we’re talking about classic chargers” did you even read my comment?
The 14 cop cars finally got the SRT suspension and brakes 1st offered on civilian Chargers and Challengers in '12. This was a major upgrade to the 06-11 cars, with new p/s pumps, revised rack valving for better road feel, increased caster angle for better straight ahead tracking and faster steering wheel return to center off corners, and finally, the sorely needed big brakes. These cars with the V8 also got bigger oil coolers, bigger half shafts for the rear, better suspension bushings frt and rear, as well as better rear suspension subframe mounts again taken from SRT cars. Bring on pt 3!
The Pursuit models do share parts with SRT models, especially from 2015+. However, the BR9 Brake package is police-specific, as parts for the Pursuits must meet or beat certified police durability and performance requirements. This is also true of the cooling, electrical, and suspension. Long story short, after 2010, the Pursuit models share very few parts with any of the retail cars.
Great video! Part three please. I own a 19’ Charger Pursuit and love it. Many useful and interesting features like the full size spare in the trunk and additional cooling system- etc. Buyer beware- these cars are the opposite of luxury! Just right for myself.
Kinda funny that dodge recalled the 2011-2012 pursuit chargers only for the low beam failure while the exact same issues were going on with the civilian charges, but no recall for those.
My favorite generation of Dodge Charger Pursuit.
Mine too
Part 3 yes sir please
Truly hurts when some people call 11-14 as a second gen charger. The real second gen chargers are 1968-70. 06-10 chargers are First gen LX, 11-current are Second gen LD.
The second gen is still my favorite of the modern Chargers, so this is pure eye candy for me.
Marspeed always got banger videos on Chrysler 🤘🏽
I have a 2013 pursuit with a 392 swap.
Great job man love it part 3 please
I have a 2011 with the 5.7 V8 - what I can report is that the front end suspensions on these cars wear out FAST (I had a 2009 before this, and the parts are nearly if not exactly the same). Fortunately, the parts are easy to find and replace (I've done it a few times).
Tell me about it. Dodge should've used more durable front suspension bushings!
@@clarencewatkins1634 can vouch for this, have an 07 RT charger and the front end wears out like nothing... heard the suspension on the 15 and up models is better though
2016+ for the suspension. The LD models share next to nothing in parts with the LX cars.
Yes I would like to see the part 3 of the charger. What about doing one on the police package 2003 Intrepid? I would like to see that as well.
Thought it was so cool at 10:48 you showed Peel Regional Police Charger which is for Brampton Ontario where the Charger is built.
The police in my city have a handful of Chargers. I'm sure the officers here appreciated the AWD option, we can get some pretty harsh winters lol
I JUST got a 2012 a couple days ago. So far, i LOVE it!
yesterday there was a a 2015 state trooper charger drove past me and for some reason it had a roar going at a normal speed, it sounded like a normal charger R/T that would drive past you but i was shocked to hear a state trooper car sound like an R/T. Im starting to think they forgot to put police package on the exhaust.
They have the exact same engine
I would like to see part 3 but also add the Durango police vehicles when discussing the current generation Charger Pursuit vehicles
Just bought my 2013 dodge charger SE v6 cop car for $8,000. Only 106,000 miles, clean title and full maintenance catalog. Hope I made a good purchase.
if you ever watched Fast Five there was a part and time where dom, brian han and rome was racing 2nd gen pursuit dodge chargers, they made a few mistakes while filming, you gotta pay real close attention to the windows and the taillights, i ended up seeing 1st gen chargers from the side views and when they drove past the camrea the CGI made it look like a 2nd gen charger that was the first seeing i noticed with the pursuit chargers in the movie. when dom and them lined up at the stop light they was revving their chargers and the first thing i noticed was there was a supercharger whine on brians car and these engines of sound effects did not sound like 5.7s, they had to be stock 3.6l or stock 5.7s, idk i just noticed that.
Anyone else feel like this is the best buyer's guide for police auction
I wish the second generation dodge charger cop cars had a 6.4L hemi v8.
Ofcourse you do captain obvious who wouldnt like a bigger higher horsepower engine 😐
It's a pretty easy swap
The 5.7L hemi V8 has plenty of power and torque in the charger pursuit no need for a 6.4L hemi V8.
Best video for Dodge Charger Pursuit for sure. My 2014 Is a rocket.lol
Police complained about the COMFORT of their ride?!?!? Maybe they should have bought a fleet of lexus ls460s with tax payer money. Apparently the iconic muscle car wasn't posh enough.
I own a 2013 Police Charger, had it for 3 years now.... love it!!
Is it awd ?
I'm trying to get a 15-18 awd v8 from the police auction
Great video as always brother! I want to purchase a police charger from auction from this gen. This is helpful, thanks! Also would love to see the next gen police car video from you.
I just bought a 2018 charger 2wd pursuit hemi,I have to put a new cam in it,but I picked it up at a good $,thanks for the awesome video.
I once sat in the back seats of a Charger Police car but it's not because of violation or anything but rather I had to get a short lift to some convention event going on far away from home and the bus lines only went as far as 2-3 KM away from the destination. The officer was thankfully kind and helped me in dropping me there. It's embarrassing nevertheless and one that made me want to get my driver's licenses right away.
As for the 2011-2014 Chargers it self, I still see them being here in Bahrain used although it's been largely replaced by the newer 2015+ Chargers.
Bought a 2014 5.7 Charger that was a patrol car in Taylor MI with 64k miles on it. I'm in love
Still going hard with it ? And how much did you pay for it ? I’m looking at a 2014 5.7 with 54k miles for 15,999! Should
I go for it ?
This info is woefully outdated.
In 2019, FCA Fleet sold about 21,000 Charger Pursuit models. About 10,000 of those were the 5.7 AWD model, 6000 were 5.7 RWD, and 5000 were V6.
Pricing for the 2019s were a little lower than previous models:
V6 - about $20,500
V8 - about $22,000
AWD - $23,500
For 2020, the ordering window was very short, as supplies of new A580 5-spd transmissions were depleted (Kokomo had discontinued production in August of 2018). Just 2 models were offered- the V6 and AWD.
For 2021, the plan is to offer 4 models: a RWD & AWD V6 (850RE), and a RWD and AWD V8 (8HP70). While various rumors exist to the discontinuance of the AWD V8 model, the Jeep system is expected to be used in the Charger.
The new Charger, a re-engineered LD architecture, is expected in late 2022 as a 2023 model. Fleet has confirmed the Pursuit models will continue.
The video was just for the 2011-14 models, I’ve yet to do the 2015+ ones
@@MarspeedCars Allpar has the latest. FCA Fleet has confirmed they are dedicated to the police sedan market, and there will be Charger Pursuit models without interruption after the very short 2020 model year. The Durango program was enhanced in January with a number of Charger Pursuit features incorporated into the popular SUV police models (Pursuit and SSV). They do not plan on achieving a Pursuit rating for the Rsm SSV, as it already exceeds the performance of the F-150 Responder.
Honestly, the charger doesn't really have generations. Its just refreshed again and again.
Yeah technically there's only two generations.
The second gen just had a major refresh that people thought was a 3rd generation...
According to donut.
I’ve owned a 2007 and 2011...had no issues with either and they are fun to drive. Not good in the snow though. AWDs must be nice
ur fucking right, i spun out on the highway because of snow lol. Im so glad she stayed in one piece and the only hurt thing was my ego and not a family.
Cool cars!
In my city they never had Chevy police cars. Mostly fords but now a few chargers
just got my 2015 pursuit, very happy, quick enough, from Colorado CHP
I have a 2014 Charger Pursuit AWD Hemi. Great car. Surprisingly fast and good brakes and handling. Very useful car and good on fuel.
I’m looking at the same vehicle! 2014 5.7 54k miles for 15,999? Should I go after it ?
@@UptownKidd757 that’s a fucking steal
@@UptownKidd757 16k for a 54k mile 5.7 V8? Take it before someone else does, my mint condition 58k mile 3.7L FPIU V6 was 23k when I bought it and the explorer is less powerful than a charger. Tho is it AWD or RWD?
Looking at a 14' 5.7L for $15,995 with 85098k rear wheel I'm going to probably get it after doing some you tube research. 😂
So will part 3 also talk about the Durango?
The cop who wrote that probably dodged and accident because of how fast he was going...no pun intended
so why is the 0-60 in the pursuit hemi 1 second slower than the civilian version?
I have a 2014 enforcer it's basically a GT with RT gearing and LSD but I will say the ride is stiff for sure but much less body roll at least then my previous car a 300
Let's get a part 3.
Did the Charger Police Pursuit have the MDS disabled/non-existent in it's 5.7L Hemi?
No, so if you but one, you would have to buy the Range MDS disabler or tune it out
Nope. You gotta get it deleted if you want it to last.
Why would you want to not have MDS, the system works great.
@@snek9353 ua-cam.com/video/ki_8l-2oCr4/v-deo.html This video talks about the AFM (the GM equivalent) but everything that is said also applies to MDS
MDS is not the cause of the lifter issue.
Oil is not the cause of the lifter issue.
The cause of the lifter issue is ... lifters. SRT - they do the engineering for all Pusuit models - began using what enthusiasts refer to as "Hellcat lifters" beginning in 2019. So far, there have been zero warranty claims with those cars.
That caprice is the fastest ppv in the U.S HANDS DOWN
Could u do a video as to why the second gen Durango did so bad with their pursuit vehicles and what the new ones offer?
great video I'm looking at 2013 for sale online and it looks like they got most of the bugs worked out from 11-12's which is good I'll update if I end up getting it
Part 3 Please!
What about a video with all of the Dodge charger audio systems?
Nice job with the video! It’s funny to see those police cars with the single light on top that truck drivers called bubble gum machines.😂 I saw on Live PD in South Carolina some police were driving Challengers.
👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇨🇦
Yeah I've seen that show one of my faves one of the the Police Department's on that show has a Camaro as a cop car
Nick Yeah I know but since this is a Mopar channel I didn’t want to mention the Camaro. 👍🏻
Thinking of getting an 06 charger Daytona top banana within a few months. Do you think tinting the headlights and tail lights would look good?
I’m looking into buying one real soon, is it worth it?
Can you do what happened to Jeep Patriot
Ah! The legendary Daimler-Chrysler-Fiat quality!
How is your car company doing?
@@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703 I worked at two of DCX/FCA large suppliers, including the one I work at now. Their quality specs have gone down in a major way, especially since Fiat runs the show.
@@gillesthibault429 I used to work at a Ford authorized transmission remanufacturing company. I remember when a fleet operator in Japan sent us a whole shipment of brand new unused 4R70W transmissions to overhaul because the factory build quality was not up to their standards.
@@gillesthibault429 Fiat has nothing to do with these cars.
Finally ;)
Cool 😀
I have a 2011 pursuit charger 🦾
I always liked the 06-10 chargers more than the 11-14.
If we're talking about classic Chargers 66-67 will always be my all-time favorite charger but I like both gens of the LX platform Chargers although I prefer the styling of the 2011 to 2014 though
bruh I didn’t say anything about the classic chargers. I was comparing these two generations. Never a question about any of the first gens, second gens, third gens, or current gens.
Seriously. I mean what do you mean “if we’re talking about classic chargers” did you even read my comment?
@@99thpeanut59 yes I did I worded it wrong
@@Blackout_1692 2011+ is LD, not LX
Interesting
WARNING: The Dodge Charger Pursuit may trigger PTSD.
what took you so long?
I don't think he does these full time plus there's so much research so it's free too.
@@erikgonzalez2278 makes sense
Hi
1:43 that one wheel peel was pitiful and miserable to watch
First
Please make a video about rare dodge ram models if ur a mopar Channel u should do that
My favorite gen charger
The 14 cop cars finally got the SRT suspension and brakes 1st offered on civilian Chargers and Challengers in '12. This was a major upgrade to the 06-11 cars, with new p/s pumps, revised rack valving for better road feel, increased caster angle for better straight ahead tracking and faster steering wheel return to center off corners, and finally, the sorely needed big brakes. These cars with the V8 also got bigger oil coolers, bigger half shafts for the rear, better suspension bushings frt and rear, as well as better rear suspension subframe mounts again taken from SRT cars. Bring on pt 3!
The Pursuit models do share parts with SRT models, especially from 2015+.
However, the BR9 Brake package is police-specific, as parts for the Pursuits must meet or beat certified police durability and performance requirements.
This is also true of the cooling, electrical, and suspension.
Long story short, after 2010, the Pursuit models share very few parts with any of the retail cars.
Great video! Part three please. I own a 19’ Charger Pursuit and love it. Many useful and interesting features like the full size spare in the trunk and additional cooling system- etc. Buyer beware- these cars are the opposite of luxury! Just right for myself.
Haha awesome, I love my 2014, absolute dream car for me, keeping it forever till a dummy crashes into me
(really a 7th gen…)
Kinda funny that dodge recalled the 2011-2012 pursuit chargers only for the low beam failure while the exact same issues were going on with the civilian charges, but no recall for those.
Just bought a 14 5.7 pursuit, im putting on a crate 6.4 and Trans in mine
Still bad looking with the SRT 392 Hemi V8 'cause the Charger 7th gen felt awkward
I'm really thinking about hunting down a good 6.0 Caprice instead of a 11-14 Charger. Any opinions on the beasty 6.0 Caprice sleeper?
Part 3 please. I wish I owned a police pursuit Charger 05-08.
2008-2010 are better though lol and they look the exact same
My favorite gen👌🏽🔥💯