@@ricardomilos39 all the previous Dinasties are moroccans *most important ones* Almoravids and Almohads well keep lying to yourself , spain and portugal apeared during the Almoravid's rule over Iberia in the north haters gonna hate
@TBE TBE Berbers (almoravids, almohads) ruled southern Iberia for about a century after they took control of the muslim taifas in southern Spain at the beginning of the 12th century, then the Navas of Tolosa in 1212 happened and Spain became almost entirely christian in a few decades. A few thousand Berber mercenaries were used in the conquest of Spain by the Umayyad Caliphate based in Damascus, (ie Syrians were part of the Arab contingent), Arabs who conquered and islamized the whole of North-Africa like they did with almost all of Spain. Arabs ruled yours and ours sorry asses during centuries, get your facts right.
Mazing Morocco to be fair, spain did fight of napoleon, and did fight back the islamic people in iberia (obviously, watch the vid). and while it is true they lost a lot more, they also fought about 50 times more. they have a bigger win ratio. i think he is right, in the sense that morocco isn’t remembered as it’s own nation, but rather as a colony or part of other, bigger ones.
There are a few errors in this video. 1) It's 'Al-Andalus' not An-Andalus.' The Arabic is also incorrect and translatesto 'on Andalus.' 2) The 'Saudis' has zero effect on the Moors since the Saudis didn't exist back then.
What I like most about this channel is that first the actual events are discussed in a way that makes you understand how it ties in to other events. Aside from the alternate history which are just (fun) guesses, you learn to appreciate how history ties together so intricately at certain moments.
One interesting event of the Reconquista is that in 1147 an English fleet and Crusader army, on its way to the Holy Land, stopped off to re-provision in Oporto. They were persuaded to stay and help the Portuguese liberate the city of Lisbon instead.
something you didn't mention was that without spain as a counter balance in the italian wars france would have conquered italy (or at least the north) which would have lead to a series of balance of power wars against germany and england.
@@Shyhab Nejd is just a part of Arabia and its only made of Bedouin tribes. The Umayyads themselves were not Nejdis or Bedouins but from Hejaz region. Calling them Arabians is the best thing.
@Mk jew العراق اسم قديم اطلقه العرب على بلاد ما بين النهرين وكذلك مصر. السعودية لم توجد في ذلك الوقت، بل كانت مقسمة إلى الحجاز ونجد وغيرها من الاقاليم.
Speaking as someone in love with languages and Linguistics, I think one major change to world history in this alternate scenario is that Portuguese would have never existed.
Neither would Spanish (well, not as we know it, some alternate language called something like “Andalusian” heavily influenced by Arabic and Tamazight would be there instead)
You don't invade China with a fraction of there force... unless your the Mongols You don't invade Afghanistan and then put a Christian General in control... unless your the Mongols You don't invade Russia in the winter... unless your the Mongols You don't fuck with the Mongol... unless your the Mongols
Julio Gonzalez Lol Portugal and Spain both had huges empires. Because of that spanish is the 3º language with most speakers and portuguese the 6º. And Portugal and Spain are a fusion of similar people, but that's the end of it. They were always rivals in everything. I think the a video of about 2 countries should talk about both of them.
Julio Gonzalez I never said the spanish empire was less important. In Europe the order of the most influential are British, Spanish and Portuguese. I only didn't liked the fact that a video about Portugal and Spain almost didn't mention Portugal. And in ethnicity, portuguese, spanish, italian people are very similar. But that don't matter, we are all european.
What if Queen Elizabeth never came to power and what if the Pre-Islamic Mid-East Conquests of the 6-7th century AD took down Constantinople allowing Persian influence into Eastern Europe?
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.
+Carolus Rex The Founding Fathers would probably have still gotten help from France. One thing is certain, though: America would be a very different place.
AirCooledMan2006 That's not what I meant. The colonists would still view France as a threat after the war and wouldn't want to leave Britain, their protector. They would also be more inclined to pay taxes as they would see them as helping build the British military in case the French decided to attack.
Soren G if France had the full support of the Iroquois confederacy and if England wasn't willing to spend quite as much they could definitely won the battle in the Americas, France was England's main rival and at the time they were a serious colonial force to be reckoned with
What if the Kublai Khan's invasion force had conquered Japan?What if the Spanish Armada had conquered the UK?What if the army of the Republic had defeated the army of Franco during the Spanish Civil War?
+mourinhaplyz Portugal was relevant for many things lol, it was one of the most long lasting empires in history and had at times the strongest navy in the world
+SpatsirkSpart Mfw playing Great Britain and the AI Venice brings ottoman empire to its knees. I don't fucking even. Seriously though. If anyone doesn't have EU IV you need to get it. It's great.
On a local note, had the Reconquista failed, people like me in the Philippines (and the country itself as we know it) wouldn't exist today. That much I've realised when I considered the question this video presents.
9:19 That reminds me, i remember some historians saying that calling it the 'reconquista' is stupid as 700 hundred years is a ridiculous amount of time to call it a 'reconquering' lol
As usual, nobody knows about the political consequences the Reconquista had: The creation of the first (or at least some of the first) *PARLIAMENTS* (they were called *_CORTES_*) of the post-Classical era. No one has ever heard of the *CORTES OF LEÓN* (1188), the *CORTES OF CASTILE* (from 1250) or the *CORTES OF ARAGON* (from 1289), right? These are some of the most important events in European political History but no one has a clue. Good.
England had a parliament from a similar time. What is so special about the Cortes? Even the pagan Vikings and the Anglo-Saxons had gatherings of parliament (Witanmoot) that discussed laws. What is to brag about..Cortes?
I've got a suggestion. It's a bit complex though. What if Asia and Europe had never discovered the New World until the space race. Basically what if none of them knew the Americas were there until they saw the world from space and noticed 2 giant continents?
Bro by that time airplanes already exsited and I bet someone would have discovered the Americas. And without the discovery of the Americas from Columbus Europe would not be developed as it is in our timeline.
+Omar kyon Zakat is one of the pillars of Islam. Every healthy Muslim that could afford to, would donate to the poor. It's not really a tax, as it doesn't really benefit the empire.
+Guillem Moreno - second fun fact: Al Andalus and Andalucia might mean "land of vandals" or it might mean "lot lands" (from Gothic landahlauts) or it might be the Arabic version of "Atlantic". Could also be something else not yet mentioned. Still debated.
To put 700 years into further perspective; the Black Death, which killed 1/3rd of all of Europe and a good bit of Asian, happened ALMOST 700 years ago in 1347. The time from the beginning of the Reconquista to the end lasted longer than the medieval ages to today. 700 years ago Europe was still feudal and there were still knights and templars.
I feel like this one could be expanded into a series. Exploring what empires would have expanded out and taken the Americas. Age of Exploration is becoming one of my favorite historical eras. When the Muslims had Iberia there was no Spain but there was a Portugal and before that Galicia, so I could see Portugal even in its small form setting sail anyways. So who knows after settling Brazil they could get so rich they could take over not just Muslim Iberia, but perhaps all of it. So maybe no Spain (that's fine, I like Portuguese better anyways haha). So perhaps the Portuguese would take what is now Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, and Paraguay. The Guiana Plain would likely still go to other powers. England would still wait until the 1600s to get in the game, and France too. We could perhaps see more Dutch possessions. And for the fun of it, I'd like to see other powers colonize too. Maybe more from the Swedish Empire. And maybe one of the states of Italy (most likely Venice) could venture out and colonize. An Italian-speaking country in the Americas would be awesome to see! Maybe had the Holy Roman Empire stayed together longer, we would also see a German-speaking country too! Denmark could expand beyond just Iceland and Greenland too. As you can see, I love alternate history also and wish I could make videos like yours haha.
I love that you know about spains conquistadores , but you completely missed the huge impact the portuguese had on Africa , india and even as far as japan. Gunfire completely changed the history of japan , and guess who cause that... at 0:43 there is a lot missing. Its like you didnt even researched portuguese history which is pretty important if you are going to make a video of alternate history... columbus was important? maybe , but he was just a player from genoa which actualy went to portugal first and would have gone to any other country if spain wasnt there. What about Vasco da gama , magellan? all this people who changed the world as we knew it. The spice trade even weakened the ottomans power in the arabia. All of this would have not happen if it wasnt for portuguese colonialism. So when you only talk about spanish conquistadores you are missing 50% of the history.
Muslims killed more than 300 millions Hindus when they invaded and occupied India (mainly because they were polytheists). American Natives would have suffered the same fate (and may even be exctinct today)
As a Portuguese, this theme is fascinating to me. Quick note: in the beginning you show a map of the portuguese and spanish empires (combined) however from the Portuguese Empire you only add Portugal and Brazil, you forgot all about the territories in Africa and Asia. Also while you are talking about the history of the Iberian Peninsula, I think you focused a little bit too much on Castille and Spain. For exemple Granada was conquered in 1492, but in 1415 the Portuguese has already started to conquer north Africa from the Moors. (Worth mentioning i guess). As for the scenario, it basically all you say makes perfect sense. Though I assume, the north Iberian states would eventually unify and become a powerful nation. Keep up the good work =)
What if the Great Depression never happened? What if the US lost the battle of Midway in WW2? What if Galileo was never born? What if the transcontinental railroad was never built? What if the Titanic never sank? What if the Apollo 13 crew had died? Just some things I've been wondering about. Feel free to use any or all (or none) of these suggestions.
a. How would the Berbers react to slavery? b. Would Iberia be part of the Ottoman Empire? c. If so, could the Ottomans remain stable? d. How would it affect modern Middle Eastern politics?
How Berbers would react to slavery you say? We have been slave owners for centuries before abolition and even enslaved whites from Europe, look up "Barbary Slave Trade"
the portuguese county was much smaller. it only reached the tejo valley with our first king. and portugal was recognized as a sovereign state before spain
la reconquista is the key to understand spanish nationalism and why our old Empire was the way it was. I dont see many videos talking about this topic on youtube, and you explained it very good to English speakers. Thanks!
So basically no Ferdinand/Isabella rule> no Columbus expedition> no America> no American revolution(no french financial support)> a later French Revolution> Napoleon is too late to pick up the pieces> no great war(based on the Napoleon video)> no Russian Revolution> no spread of Communism. As an American I have a dilemma on my hands either I let America exist as the majestic eagle it is or I hop in a time machine and tell Ferdinand and Isabella that the other called them fat, stopping their joint rule from happening, which would sacrifice America but finally destroy Communism once and for all.
The Iberian empires plaid a significant roll in introducing subsaharan slavery to the Americas. The Islamic empires had already been trading with subsaharan nations for slaves for many centuries, there were even notable African slave rebellions in Baghdad before 1000 AD. While this was on a much smaller scale than the later transatlantic slave trade, it introduced the idea of africans as slaves to the Iberian peninsula well before the discovery of the Americas. At the end of the Reconquista, African slaves were still seen as a status symbol by Christian Iberians. Around the same time, Portugal circumnavigated Africa and almost immediately established trading posts in subsaharan Africa, bypassing the Sahara, and trading directly for slaves. Portugal and Spain also accounted for the vast majority of slave imports from Africa. This was partially because they held much more land than other European powers, but mostly because slaves had much much higher rates of mortality in Spanish and Portuguese colonies than in colonies held by other European powers. This is largely because many of these slaves were used in dangerous mining operations. In fact, in the beginning, mining was the primary use of slaves in the Americas. It was only after the Spanish/Portuguese import of slaves for mining was well established, that slaves began to be used on a large scale for agriculture in both Spanish/Portuguese colonies, and the colonies of other European powers. It is also worth noting that before the establishment of this infrastructure, European powers first enslaved Native Americans within the colonies, which would have been more practical than importing slaves from Africa were it not for smallpox. While the nature of sugar crops and cotton certainly lent themselves to slavery or some form of indentured servitude, it's hard to imagine that this system would have emerged in the same way without the influence of Spain and Portugal. Unlike any other European country, Spain and Portugal started the age of exploration with subsaharan slaves, they were also the first European countries to trade with subsaharan Africa, and they initially brought the slaves to the Americas for mining, not for Agriculture. It's hard to imagine another European power, without Iberia's historical connections and geographic proximity to Africa, deciding to go to a random continent on the other side of the world to obtain slaves for agriculture in their new world colonies. I can imagine three alternate, not necessarily mutually exclusive, scenarios for the colonization of the Americas. The first is that rather than using African slaves, northern European colonies import their own forms of indentured servitude to the Americas. This means that the bulk of the agricultural and mining labor is done by a mix of Native American and European indentured servants. This would cause the industries to grow much more slowly than in our timeline, but they may have eventually reached the same scale. In this version of events, the majority of indentured servants would be white, and there would be very few slaves for life, although it's possible that Native Americans would have been racially associated with slavery. The system of indentured servitude would eventually be abolished, much earlier than slavery was in our timeline and in a much more gradual and peaceful way as it became economically irrelevant. It's possible that there would also be some trade with the muslim world for slaves, who would be of a more cosmopolitan origin, and maybe some eventual subsaharan trade, but it would be established much later and never reach the same scale. The second is that the Caribbean, the Deep south, and much of central and south America would remain largely Uncolonized. Because these regions were the major drivers of colonization, it would probably mean less colonization in North America as well. Without slave labor, settlements would be much less profitable, especially in hot, humid jungle regions with malaria and yellow fever. There would still be some incentive to colonise these areas - cotton, tobacco, and sugar would remain valuable commodities, and depopulation caused be small pox would create a demand for settler labor. The situation would be more complex though, and the industries would be much less profitable. The Colonization of the Americas would be very different in our timeline, in some regions resembling the 19th century colonization of Africa, and in other regions resembling the colonization of Australia. While most of the continent would eventually be subjugated, some regions would evolve into a patchwork of native dominated states (which would eventually get their independence from colonial overlords). These regions would be in the less economically profitable regions - the great plains, the tundra, the jungles of central and south americas, and regions less accessible to Europeans - bolivia, the rockies, and the amazon. Some Areas with large native populations, like Florida which put up a lot of resistance and British Columbia, which was had already recovered from small pox benefited greatly from indirect trade with Europeans before they made direct contact, may have remained effectively independent. There would also be several European dominated states, mostly in temperate regions like the midatlantic, northeast, and midwestern regions of the US (maybe also California), Quebec and Ontario in Canada, and Argentina. There might also be some tiny european dominated states in the Caribbean (in islands that never recovered from depopulation) and around critical trading points like the mouth of the Mississippi and the mouth of the Amazon. The whole continent would be less populous than it is today, as European colonization would have happened at a much lower scale, and the natives would still be recovering from the massive depopulation caused smallpox. The third is that development of the tobacco, cotton, and sugar industries is relatively slow and unprofitable until the industrial revolution. In this scenario, the Americas are conquered by the colonial powers during the age of exploration, but growth and settlement are very slow during this period. As a consequence, the local populations never really become significant enough to mount independence movements, and remain controlled by Europe. The industrial revolution, however, creates an immense demand for raw materials, and the expansion of European powers into Africa and South Asia creates a new supply of labor for agriculture. European countries would shuffle non-slave labor between their colonies, much like the British empire did in the 19th century during our timeline from, this would ultimately result in a large flow of population from Africa and south Asia to the Americas, especially the tropical regions. The result would be a very cosmopolitan and mixed race American continent.
note that the majority of the army that conquered spain from north africa (modern morocco) were berbers amazighs and not arabs, yes they were some arabs but the general who lead the army was berber, tariq bnou ziyad was his name, and the army was predominatly amazigh, it was an islamic berber conquest, not an arab one.
+Chemo_star No, because 99% of scientific knowledge and invention from about 600 to 1500 CE came from Middle Easterners. Without them, we'd be FAR set back compared to where we're at now.
+SeaBiscuit true, but it is entirely possible the Arabs would have done that without Islam. They would probably have ended up Jewish or Christian anyway. Or some other random prophet.
The would still be discovered but by another country and a few decades later. Whoever does so could quickly colonize a lot of area, like Spain in South America. Wars would be very different, and there likely wouldn’t be an American revolution at the scale of our timeline. That means napoleon doesn’t rise up, which is a whole can of worms by itself. Completely alternate wars would happen and the world wars would never happen. The 20th century is completely different. Germany, the Soviet Union, and all American countries wouldn’t exist or would be completely different.
I assume they would have created a Christian chinese dynasty until maybe a communist revolution or anti-monarchist rebellion overthrew them.....................
One very important thing he completely missed is the geostrategic importance of the straights of Gibraltar... Things are massively changed by this alone
Carolus Rex No, I think this will bring not just the US and Mexico into WWI, but also bring other American countries such as Canada, Caribbean Islands, South America, Latin America
+Carolus Rex We weren't all out war fighting, in 1914-1918 was a political unstable time, but it wasn't a war zone. Plus I think mexico would have accepted since presidents were changing year after year due to poor popularity among the population, so maybe a president would have tried to get the people choice if he promise to "Make Mexico Great Again" jaja
Portugal also held colonies in Africa: Angola, Mozambique and Cape Verde. Please include them in the map describing Portugual/Spain terrtorial holdings.
Interesting note: The Arabs had a lot of the knowledge that 'rebooted' Europe after the Dark Ages. That knowledge was captured during the Reconquista, but much was destroyed along the way. One of the reasons for the voyage that 'discovered' the Americas was that Columbus determined he could make it to China or even India. This is because European estimates of the size of the Earth were significantly smaller. The Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians had fairly accurately determined the Earth's diameter, and the Arab nations had that information. It's likely that without evidence of somewhere to stop along the way, the initial discoveries of the 'New World' would have been by the Northwestern Europeans crossing the GIUK gap, since finding Iceland and then Greenland is not nearly as tough as crossing from Spain to the Bahamas.
+Amri Steve You do know that they built over a church that they themselves destroyed right? So no not freed just reenslaved. Also today its a Cathedral-Mosque/Mosque-Cathedral which is a really good deal, be happy with that your lucky you get that much.
Al-Andalus... not An-Andalus, although I'm not sure what it means. But apart from that, a very interesting video. I had never thought of the consequences it might have such a seemingly small detail of our vast history.
amine mchanna Al-Andalus was the name given by the moors, not coming from latin. The Latin name of Iberia is "Hispania". Now, the literal translation of "Al-Andalus" I don't know, but it sure as hell is not "AN-Andalus".
in the arab texts, translation from latin ones, after the 8th century after Christ, they translate the toponym Hispania with "الأندلس"= Al-Andalus. "Al" is a particle that many arab words include and that had an effect on many spanish vocab. "Andalus" is the word they uses as the toponym. The origin of that word is disputed, since there is no prior notice of it in arab before 711 after Christ, You cannot assure what the origin of it is, but even if you could, that doesn't change what I said in my first comment: They wrote "An-Andalus" when it is "Al-Andalus". I just wanted to point that mistake out.
you would think, but if you read the history the islamic caliphate in iberia was the most technologically advanced nation in europe *at the time*, they also had the most populous city in the world at the time with almost a million citizens (Cordoba) while the most populous city in christian europe at the time barely hit 100,000 citizens, if you don't believe me go read books about the caliphate or if you have bussiness to attend to go to Wikipedia
+Evan1214 Just think of it; gays stoned to death, women forced to adhere to strict dress codes, the opinion of a woman equaling..what is it....2/3 a mans? Ah so nice.
Suggestion, a series in which you examine what would happen if every American state suddenly went independent and became it's own nation? (Note: I know this is similar to your 50 States, 50 Scenarios series) What would their relations be? What would the most powerful be? Weakest, most wealth, etc. I really would enjoy this as a series.
in comment section all people are thinking that muslims had been successfully removed from iberia. but remmember that islam is the fastest growing religion in europe and the world. many spanish people are converting to islam. within 100 years europe will become half muslim. i am not hating other people . i am just telling the truth. #believethat
more spanish are converting to muslims? fuck no, more and more are leaving religion, and those who remain are mostly the old people, which are christians.
@@crazycookfyrelomenot Yes I agree, The Chirstian claim Jesus to be their savior, but only if they would look into their books, Mathew chapter 15 verses 23-25, Jesus said I have only been sent unto the lost sheep of Israel.
Wow, I never knew people started a comment thread under mine. I find it hilarious that there are people here that are apparently butthurt by my comment. My comment was supposed to be a reference to a song made by a rock band by sabaton titled: "The Last Stand". The reason I referenced the song here is because it is often used as a meme in any medieval style game where knights retaking something is involved. The reason I'm explaining this thoroughly is because there are clearly uncultured swine on here :P I also just for the record I'm already educated in my religion. I'm not super religious or go to church really but my values are Christian and I understand what most of the bible is about. I don't need a foreigner who isn't Christian to tell me what is what with my religion. Now please go back to eating pork or something.
Hey for future vids, can you please not do the black solid with the black shadow with the countries. It made it look blurry and my eyes (15/20) were trying really hard to adjust to it.
I have some interesting scenarios to share: 1) central and south america would be muslim, but the united states and Canada would be rather the same (christian and well developed). Maybe a muslim Mexico would be stronger and resist the loss of territory it suffered. 2) Europe could be almost totally protestant, because the Habsburg dinasty would not have Spain. They were strong catholic defenders. Maybe the papacy would not resist against the Reform, and a central christian authority would cease to exist. In this scenario, France could be also protestant. 3) Austria, with weakened Habsburgs, would be conquered by the Ottomans. Even so, the collapse of the Ottomans would be inevitable. 4) England and France would be much less of rivals, because they would need to unite and protect themselves against muslim Spain and muslim Austria. 5) an german unification could happen earlier. Napoleon destroyed the Holy Roman and Prussia emerged later from the ashes. This could be prompted by the ottoman Austria. 6) Italy without the Pope has multiple possibilities, it would be either more French or more Ottoman. Let's stick with an French Italy. 7) a world war with these two blocks would be inevitable (protestant christians England France North America Italy vs. Muslims Spain Ottomans South América). 8) Assuming that Russia, Japan and China would be less affected, it is interesting to think if they would involve themselves in this WW.
um.... the Brits colonized the East coast and even forced the settlers to not expand to far west as it would run into conflicts with the Native populations. Britain was also allied with alot of the natives. The Americans expanded West with the thought that the land was theirs due to the Louisiana purchase, the Mexican-American War, the Oregon treat, and the land purchased from Mexico and thus simple pushed any natives in the way out of the way. Really early on native were allowed to integrate into American society (the peaceful ones) until Andrew Jackson who did the whole trail of tears thing and then the manifest destiny where conflicts between settlers and natives would arise and in response the federal army would come and destroy any "hostile" natives (the settlers were just a hostile and normally the hostilities came because of settler encroachment on native lands and what not). Spain on the other hand came, slaughter god knows how many natives. Force them to be slaves, and once they died replaced them with blacks. The Spaniards and Portuguese were far crueler on the native populations and even on the blacks (imported way more slaves then Britain and the USA ever did). So while Britain and USA were brutal they were in no way near the level of brutality that the Spanish and Portuguese were.
@@a-drewg1716 JAJAJAJJAJAJA no way, The spanish and portuguese were less brutal than the British, so, why there are not "mestizos" in USA, Canada, New Zealand and Australia? Britain and the USA exterminated almost the complete of their original native population while the Spanish and portuguese mixed whit the original indians
@@juansehernandez4504 That have to be one of the most ignorant things i ever Heard the reason for your qurstion is more complex than that its because the áreas were the english colonized there were barely natives and was barely populated, Maybe??? the áreas were spain colonized was full of natives and native civilizations the spaniards could not Just ignore the natives or kill them that would be a waste of time so they Just put themselves at the top of the heryarchy and make the natives work for them, also the spaniards Who came were mostly men, so they took native wives the brits came in entire families, and the most important thing the USA and canada received mássive inmigration from europe since their creation that didnt happend that much in latín america except for argentina cuba and brazil thats why those 3 have the most "puré" White people in latín america and in general are 3 of the whitest countries there so yep stop pretending spain was some moral european empire it really wasnt
Well if I had to guesd I'd say that really depends on WHY it didn't happen. Option 1: portugal never splits from spain: spain would've done it, and been noticeably stronger as a result. Slavery is a far lesser institution historically as a result (the Trastamara were anti-slavery and only allowed it because of Spain's trade deal with portugal, without portuguese slavery they would've continued to punish it from the start. Option 2: The Portuguese-Spanish wars are too harsh and both factions grow isolationist and ignore maritime expansion: Britain does it instead. Britain is the first to america. Portugal and Spain industrialize earlier. The Napoleonic Wars become a massive unpredictable clusterfuck as a result, but I'd guess Napoleon does manage to consolidate control over the spanish and italian peninsulas, probably making a deal with the pope for such, splitting europe in two. Option 3: the one depicted on the video: Islam grows a lot more through africa and asia. Britain reaches the americas first. The world as a whole is in for massive religious wars for ages to come. The Balkans and Iberia take the brunt of them.
Not going to lie. I suscribe to this channel for political ideas for my D&D game. Using what-ifs from the real world i can create realistic political climates in my fake one. Thank you very much, Fellow Ohioian, for this channel!
One difference might have been a slower colonization of the new world. Introduce some of those important animals to N. America and you might just find the natives a bit more resistant to disease and a bit more prepared for invasion.
So then.... I guess those Muslims didn't expect the Spanish inquisition.
They were just popping by to say that there was trouble at the mill.
NOONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
Our chief weapon is surprise! Surprise and fear, fear and surprise. Our two weapons are fear and surprise...
...and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear, surprise and ruthless efficiency and almost fanatical devotion to the pope.
***** look up Monty Python Spanish Inquisition. You'll get the joke then.
You missed the effect Spain had in Europe's wars with the Ottomans.
Even Arab Muslims did XD
Morocco/Spain/Portugal really had an intresting history
morocco dont have history
@@ricardomilos39 all the previous Dinasties are moroccans *most important ones* Almoravids and Almohads well keep lying to yourself
, spain and portugal apeared during the Almoravid's rule over Iberia in the north haters gonna hate
@TBE TBE Berbers (almoravids, almohads) ruled southern Iberia for about a century after they took control of the muslim taifas in southern Spain at the beginning of the 12th century, then the Navas of Tolosa in 1212 happened and Spain became almost entirely christian in a few decades.
A few thousand Berber mercenaries were used in the conquest of Spain by the Umayyad Caliphate based in Damascus, (ie Syrians were part of the Arab contingent), Arabs who conquered and islamized the whole of North-Africa like they did with almost all of Spain. Arabs ruled yours and ours sorry asses during centuries, get your facts right.
Mazing Morocco to be fair, spain did fight of napoleon, and did fight back the islamic people in iberia (obviously, watch the vid). and while it is true they lost a lot more, they also fought about 50 times more. they have a bigger win ratio. i think he is right, in the sense that morocco isn’t remembered as it’s own nation, but rather as a colony or part of other, bigger ones.
Morocoo is shit and nobody cares for those arab colony people
There are a few errors in this video.
1) It's 'Al-Andalus' not An-Andalus.' The Arabic is also incorrect and translatesto 'on Andalus.'
2) The 'Saudis' has zero effect on the Moors since the Saudis didn't exist back then.
There’s too much of a BS that I don’t think anyone would have the time to correct it
thank you!!
The symbol was meant to represent an Arab state
HorkBork M At 2 he meant the people who were living in the area of Saudi Arabia back then.
Thanks for correcting, especially 1), when I was it in the video I was like wtf
What if Ming China capatalized on the explorations of Zheng He?
+Mike D I second this motion.
i third-ed-end(?) that motion.
notion*
It'd be awesome to see Malaysia (my country) being mentioned. Zheng He was one of the reasons why malacca was so successful
i dont know about zheng he? can someone give me a short rundown of what he did?
as always portugal is underated
Toda la razón
Português não espanhol
For real
Although, the video pointed out that if Portugal didn't exist, the entire world would've been different
D afonso henriques ftw
What I like most about this channel is that first the actual events are discussed in a way that makes you understand how it ties in to other events. Aside from the alternate history which are just (fun) guesses, you learn to appreciate how history ties together so intricately at certain moments.
One interesting event of the Reconquista is that in 1147 an English fleet and Crusader army, on its way to the Holy Land, stopped off to re-provision in Oporto. They were persuaded to stay and help the Portuguese liberate the city of Lisbon instead.
Nobody noticed the small "papa bless" text?
I noticed it as I was reading this comment on my phone.
+f34rknight29 Everybody noticed it.
+f34rknight29 i wonder if that was a h3h3 reference, he's getting a lot bigger now
I did
+f34rknight29 h3h3
something you didn't mention was that without spain as a counter balance in the italian wars france would have conquered italy (or at least the north) which would have lead to a series of balance of power wars against germany and england.
Amen
3:33 Saudis weren't a thing back then mate.
Due to how calling them just "arabians" really doesn't make sense.
@@ice_sea5527 he couldve either called them Nejdis or bedouins
@@Shyhab good point i guess
@@Shyhab
Nejd is just a part of Arabia and its only made of Bedouin tribes. The Umayyads themselves were not Nejdis or Bedouins but from Hejaz region.
Calling them Arabians is the best thing.
@Mk jew
العراق اسم قديم اطلقه العرب على بلاد ما بين النهرين وكذلك مصر.
السعودية لم توجد في ذلك الوقت، بل كانت مقسمة إلى الحجاز ونجد وغيرها من الاقاليم.
It is not "An Andalus", but "Al Andalus". ("Al" meant "The" and "Andalus" could come from "vandals").
OMG shit this makes sense i speak arabic and this blew my mind thanks
Vandalucia? Lol
so the vandals went to africa then they went to spain then they started to kill the invaders?
Andalus means fertile land in Arabic
The root of Andalus being from Vandals has been disapproved many times already.
Speaking as someone in love with languages and Linguistics, I think one major change to world history in this alternate scenario is that Portuguese would have never existed.
Neither would Spanish (well, not as we know it, some alternate language called something like “Andalusian” heavily influenced by Arabic and Tamazight would be there instead)
There would portugese, it would just have more loan words and possibly some more similar grammar to arabic and North African languages.
You know Portugal means orange in Arabic so keep speaking orange
@@yafeee1072 but it comes from the Roman name of the city of Porto, Portus Cale
@@themechanictangerine whatever orangees
What if Ögedei Khan hadn't died in 1241?
(That's an important question, as his death put an end to the Mongol invasion of Europe.)
+Zogg from Betelgeuse If Temuchin Khan hadn't died when he did, an invasion of Europe was also his next stop.
+Zogg from Betelgeuse P.S. No Edge!
+Zogg from Betelgeuse Zogg why no new videos?
You don't invade China with a fraction of there force... unless your the Mongols
You don't invade Afghanistan and then put a Christian General in control... unless your the Mongols
You don't invade Russia in the winter... unless your the Mongols
You don't fuck with the Mongol... unless your the Mongols
You can't invade the mongols..... unless your America
You can't invade America cuz you can't
You can't invade youtube....unless your China
Even in a video about Portugal and Spain, Portugal is barely mention...
Julio Gonzalez
Lol Portugal and Spain both had huges empires. Because of that spanish is the 3º language with most speakers and portuguese the 6º.
And Portugal and Spain are a fusion of similar people, but that's the end of it. They were always rivals in everything.
I think the a video of about 2 countries should talk about both of them.
Julio Gonzalez I never said the spanish empire was less important. In Europe the order of the most influential are British, Spanish and Portuguese.
I only didn't liked the fact that a video about Portugal and Spain almost didn't mention Portugal.
And in ethnicity, portuguese, spanish, italian people are very similar. But that don't matter, we are all european.
Sorry Rui, But you will never be Spanish.
Siempre eres un perro de Portugal.
Spain only had an empire after Portugal built their own empire...
who wants to be spanish? lol...Manolo gitano não tens noção do rídiculo pois não?
hey, just want to say I really appreciate you for making these videos and that the problem with UA-cam is resolved soon, you do good work
also I really love your post ww2 series
What if Queen Elizabeth never came to power and what if the Pre-Islamic Mid-East Conquests of the 6-7th century AD took down Constantinople allowing Persian influence into Eastern Europe?
+Salokin Sekwah Don't even want to think about such a horrible outcome.
+kurt lindner illuminati
+kurt lindner Horrible? It's alternate history. Be more open minded pls. (Hurhur I bet you said that shit to many people already)
+kurt lindner Don't even want to think about such a horrible comment.
***** The First
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!
Of course not
As I just mentioned the Spanish Inquisition had to give 30 days written notice.
Everybody expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!
Conor Crowley nobody expects the Mexican inquisition
Lol xD
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.
Now that's ads are back. Two videos every week. Part 4 will be out soon, most likely next week when I have a few new vids out.
It is 2 a.m right now.
1st like
+AlternateHistoryHub nice one! Awesome to hear that UA-cam is not playing up again...
nigga why are you uploading so late?
7am here HA
this was the perfect exquisite to stop studying thank you I'm going to pass out now
7:53 is not AN but AL ANDALUS
The*
Exactly...
The ل is sometimes dropped, but not in this case i don't think, because andalus begins with an أ not a ن
Eduardo Barrezueta no its Andalucia .
ah foda-se (portugues)
god i can't help thinking of paradox and crusader kings 2, and europa universalis 4!
Yeah
*****
i like the current patch, its almost a new game now
*****
same, basicaly what they have done is make it a lot like eu4
+Red Menace the current patch is screwing with my current game as castile.
+Red Menace
All I was thinking about the entire video was crusader kings 2 :/
What if French won the seven years war, or as we call it in America, the French and Indian War?
+mbanana23456 Hon Hon baguettes for everyone.
The American Revolution either wouldn't have happened or would have happened much later.
+Carolus Rex The Founding Fathers would probably have still gotten help from France. One thing is certain, though: America would be a very different place.
AirCooledMan2006 That's not what I meant. The colonists would still view France as a threat after the war and wouldn't want to leave Britain, their protector. They would also be more inclined to pay taxes as they would see them as helping build the British military in case the French decided to attack.
Soren G if France had the full support of the Iroquois confederacy and if England wasn't willing to spend quite as much they could definitely won the battle in the Americas, France was England's main rival and at the time they were a serious colonial force to be reckoned with
What if the Kublai Khan's invasion force had conquered Japan?What if the Spanish Armada had conquered the UK?What if the army of the Republic had defeated the army of Franco during the Spanish Civil War?
+absentmindedprof NUH ZEH GLURRIOZ NIPPUN IZ TOO PEWFUL TO FALL 2 FILTI MUNGELZ
ZEH DEVEINE WINDZ 2 STRONK
+absentmindedprof That would be very interesting if Japan had been taken. And kept some how.
+absentmindedprof What if Portugal was relevant?
+mourinhaplyz Portugal was relevant for many things lol, it was one of the most long lasting empires in history and had at times the strongest navy in the world
pstriotism intenisfies *starts singing portuguese national anthem *
The story of Ferdinand and Isabella is actually really interesting! (Partly because they were cousins...)
I'm impressed by the amount of research you do for all of your vid's, no matter which. Good job sir, good job.
+Al_Khalid_ 24 It's amazing indeed but I find it funny that me being Portuguese knew all of this cause of 5th grade history class XD
Damn 7 years ago
Just imagine all of the coring cost of that land with all of the Berbers there XD (Europa Universalis IV reference)
+SpatsirkSpart yeah, the over extension, would probably destroy the country
+SpatsirkSpart Those cores take so much time to be completed.
+SpatsirkSpart Mfw playing Great Britain and the AI Venice brings ottoman empire to its knees.
I don't fucking even.
Seriously though. If anyone doesn't have EU IV you need to get it. It's great.
+Billy the drongo catcher Damn it's rare to see for any AI to win against the Ottomans
I guess the Nations leading the Reconquista have religious Ideas and a event backing up the coring costs.
What if I didn't ask this question?
*head explodes*
I wouldn't have answered your question.
+Sam Kužel Don't you make the music
paul lima Not all of it but yes some of it
then i wouldn't meet my gf in this comment section, and ww never have a kid to prevent world war III (the one with nukes)
On a local note, had the Reconquista failed, people like me in the Philippines (and the country itself as we know it) wouldn't exist today. That much I've realised when I considered the question this video presents.
Proud christian peenoise here I cannot imagine nor envision myself as a Muslim lol
@@randellbragg5013 just imagine you had a beard
Randell Bragg You cannot imagine something you’ve never been.
hahah philippines say allahu akbar every bomb explode
The Philippines would probably be colonised by the British or the Dutch in this timeline
These comments are giving me cancer...
@@ihaveadream3321 Atheist Garbaage
Simplement, Putain Vous memes
69 likes... nice
@EmperorJuliusCaesar At least I'm not a huge piece of shit like yourself.
@@ihaveadream3321 Whaaaat?
9:19
That reminds me, i remember some historians saying that calling it the 'reconquista' is stupid as 700 hundred years is a ridiculous amount of time to call it a 'reconquering' lol
Really took their time there huh
Most of Spain was recovered in like 300 years.
I'm spanish and I agree, something like "iberian religious wars" would be more correct but its the term that has get stuck.
cha cha real *s l o w*
@@iisusvoryvzakone7345 Meh, it wasn't too much of a religion war. Most of the time it wasn't religious at all, its just politics.
As usual, nobody knows about the political consequences the Reconquista had: The creation of the first (or at least some of the first) *PARLIAMENTS* (they were called *_CORTES_*) of the post-Classical era. No one has ever heard of the *CORTES OF LEÓN* (1188), the *CORTES OF CASTILE* (from 1250) or the *CORTES OF ARAGON* (from 1289), right? These are some of the most important events in European political History but no one has a clue. Good.
Teudiselo Spain basically doesn't exist for the US people.
ArminMeiwes23 you should come to Florida. We have a city that was founded in the 1500s by spaniards and citizens make sure all tourists know it lol.
Make Rome Great Again i wish i could live there. Europe is Doomed. And i mean for real.
ArminMeiwes23 believe me, America is doomed as well. The political situation and the economy here is terrible.
England had a parliament from a similar time. What is so special about the Cortes? Even the pagan Vikings and the Anglo-Saxons had gatherings of parliament (Witanmoot) that discussed laws. What is to brag about..Cortes?
I've got a suggestion. It's a bit complex though. What if Asia and Europe had never discovered the New World until the space race. Basically what if none of them knew the Americas were there until they saw the world from space and noticed 2 giant continents?
Bro by that time airplanes already exsited and I bet someone would have discovered the Americas. And without the discovery of the Americas from Columbus Europe would not be developed as it is in our timeline.
The Muslims also had to pay taxes. they just had a different name for it. I think its called zakat or something.
+Omar kyon It wasn't as bad for them though.
Zakat is how much you should donate to charity(which is 2.5% of your salary)
MrColuber Really? Heard it was about the same. How bad was it? Do you know about this? or are you just saying.
+Omar kyon Zakat is one of the pillars of Islam. Every healthy Muslim that could afford to, would donate to the poor. It's not really a tax, as it doesn't really benefit the empire.
+Omar kyon To put it in simple terms, the Jizya tax (which is what we're talking about here) is a submission tax. Think about it for a few seconds.
Great video but there's a little mistake. In Arabic it's called الأندلس
not على الأندلس
that will means on the Andalus, that's just not right
+Hamoudeh Hamdoun Correct it is Al Andulus, in arabic الأندلس
+Hamoudeh Hamdoun And fun fact: the southern region of Spain is called Andalusia (Andalucía in Spanish).
+Guillem Moreno - second fun fact: Al Andalus and Andalucia might mean "land of vandals" or it might mean "lot lands" (from Gothic landahlauts) or it might be the Arabic version of "Atlantic". Could also be something else not yet mentioned. Still debated.
To put 700 years into further perspective; the Black Death, which killed 1/3rd of all of Europe and a good bit of Asian, happened ALMOST 700 years ago in 1347. The time from the beginning of the Reconquista to the end lasted longer than the medieval ages to today. 700 years ago Europe was still feudal and there were still knights and templars.
I feel like this one could be expanded into a series. Exploring what empires would have expanded out and taken the Americas. Age of Exploration is becoming one of my favorite historical eras. When the Muslims had Iberia there was no Spain but there was a Portugal and before that Galicia, so I could see Portugal even in its small form setting sail anyways. So who knows after settling Brazil they could get so rich they could take over not just Muslim Iberia, but perhaps all of it. So maybe no Spain (that's fine, I like Portuguese better anyways haha). So perhaps the Portuguese would take what is now Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, and Paraguay. The Guiana Plain would likely still go to other powers. England would still wait until the 1600s to get in the game, and France too. We could perhaps see more Dutch possessions. And for the fun of it, I'd like to see other powers colonize too. Maybe more from the Swedish Empire. And maybe one of the states of Italy (most likely Venice) could venture out and colonize. An Italian-speaking country in the Americas would be awesome to see! Maybe had the Holy Roman Empire stayed together longer, we would also see a German-speaking country too! Denmark could expand beyond just Iceland and Greenland too. As you can see, I love alternate history also and wish I could make videos like yours haha.
France would be on edge all the time. Even more so than it is now.
Mabey they would learn to not surrender.
@@epauletshark3793 try to be more creative next time
@@MultiAnis21 xd
Make "What if Ottoman Empire won The Battle of Vienna in 1683?" video :)
Do you mean what happened if the winged hussars didn't arrived? :(
I love that you know about spains conquistadores , but you completely missed the huge impact the portuguese had on Africa , india and even as far as japan. Gunfire completely changed the history of japan , and guess who cause that... at 0:43 there is a lot missing. Its like you didnt even researched portuguese history which is pretty important if you are going to make a video of alternate history... columbus was important? maybe , but he was just a player from genoa which actualy went to portugal first and would have gone to any other country if spain wasnt there. What about Vasco da gama , magellan? all this people who changed the world as we knew it. The spice trade even weakened the ottomans power in the arabia. All of this would have not happen if it wasnt for portuguese colonialism. So when you only talk about spanish conquistadores you are missing 50% of the history.
you think he can cover evry singel thing that can happend ?
Eduardo Borges that's true about Columbus. He could have even gone to Eastern Europe if Western Europe ignored him.
Thank you for pointing that out.
@@unseen26389 O T T O M A N A M E R I C A I N T E N S I F I E S
What if Arabs found the New World?
natives wont die
Islam is a more prominent religion in the world or maybe even a crusade in America
The natives would have still died because they would have brought diseases lol
Muslims killed more than 300 millions Hindus when they invaded and occupied India (mainly because they were polytheists).
American Natives would have suffered the same fate (and may even be exctinct today)
+Mantis haha not wrong
One thing is for sure the Hapsburg dynasty never dominates Europe.
As a Portuguese, this theme is fascinating to me.
Quick note: in the beginning you show a map of the portuguese and spanish empires (combined) however from the Portuguese Empire you only add Portugal and Brazil, you forgot all about the territories in Africa and Asia.
Also while you are talking about the history of the Iberian Peninsula, I think you focused a little bit too much on Castille and Spain.
For exemple Granada was conquered in 1492, but in 1415 the Portuguese has already started to conquer north Africa from the Moors. (Worth mentioning i guess).
As for the scenario, it basically all you say makes perfect sense. Though I assume, the north Iberian states would eventually unify and become a powerful nation.
Keep up the good work =)
What if the Great Depression never happened?
What if the US lost the battle of Midway in WW2?
What if Galileo was never born?
What if the transcontinental railroad was never built?
What if the Titanic never sank?
What if the Apollo 13 crew had died?
Just some things I've been wondering about. Feel free to use any or all (or none) of these suggestions.
This one is sooooo interesting. I could watch this for hours haha
a. How would the Berbers react to slavery?
b. Would Iberia be part of the Ottoman Empire?
c. If so, could the Ottomans remain stable?
d. How would it affect modern Middle Eastern politics?
How Berbers would react to slavery you say? We have been slave owners for centuries before abolition and even enslaved whites from Europe, look up "Barbary Slave Trade"
We've been owners of slaves for centuries
the portuguese county was much smaller. it only reached the tejo valley with our first king. and portugal was recognized as a sovereign state before spain
la reconquista is the key to understand spanish nationalism and why our old Empire was the way it was. I dont see many videos talking about this topic on youtube, and you explained it very good to English speakers. Thanks!
Thank God the Reconquista was a success!
nope
YES
Baron Funai YES 🇪🇸✝️🏛
DEUS VULT!
Get out of Europe
I'm still baffled how a war could last for over 700 years.
Because it wasn't one long continuous war, but a series of conflicts; often with shifting alliances.
So basically no Ferdinand/Isabella rule> no Columbus expedition> no America> no American revolution(no french financial support)> a later French Revolution> Napoleon is too late to pick up the pieces> no great war(based on the Napoleon video)> no Russian Revolution> no spread of Communism. As an American I have a dilemma on my hands either I let America exist as the majestic eagle it is or I hop in a time machine and tell Ferdinand and Isabella that the other called them fat, stopping their joint rule from happening, which would sacrifice America but finally destroy Communism once and for all.
The Iberian empires plaid a significant roll in introducing subsaharan slavery to the Americas. The Islamic empires had already been trading with subsaharan nations for slaves for many centuries, there were even notable African slave rebellions in Baghdad before 1000 AD. While this was on a much smaller scale than the later transatlantic slave trade, it introduced the idea of africans as slaves to the Iberian peninsula well before the discovery of the Americas. At the end of the Reconquista, African slaves were still seen as a status symbol by Christian Iberians. Around the same time, Portugal circumnavigated Africa and almost immediately established trading posts in subsaharan Africa, bypassing the Sahara, and trading directly for slaves.
Portugal and Spain also accounted for the vast majority of slave imports from Africa. This was partially because they held much more land than other European powers, but mostly because slaves had much much higher rates of mortality in Spanish and Portuguese colonies than in colonies held by other European powers. This is largely because many of these slaves were used in dangerous mining operations. In fact, in the beginning, mining was the primary use of slaves in the Americas. It was only after the Spanish/Portuguese import of slaves for mining was well established, that slaves began to be used on a large scale for agriculture in both Spanish/Portuguese colonies, and the colonies of other European powers. It is also worth noting that before the establishment of this infrastructure, European powers first enslaved Native Americans within the colonies, which would have been more practical than importing slaves from Africa were it not for smallpox.
While the nature of sugar crops and cotton certainly lent themselves to slavery or some form of indentured servitude, it's hard to imagine that this system would have emerged in the same way without the influence of Spain and Portugal. Unlike any other European country, Spain and Portugal started the age of exploration with subsaharan slaves, they were also the first European countries to trade with subsaharan Africa, and they initially brought the slaves to the Americas for mining, not for Agriculture. It's hard to imagine another European power, without Iberia's historical connections and geographic proximity to Africa, deciding to go to a random continent on the other side of the world to obtain slaves for agriculture in their new world colonies. I can imagine three alternate, not necessarily mutually exclusive, scenarios for the colonization of the Americas.
The first is that rather than using African slaves, northern European colonies import their own forms of indentured servitude to the Americas. This means that the bulk of the agricultural and mining labor is done by a mix of Native American and European indentured servants. This would cause the industries to grow much more slowly than in our timeline, but they may have eventually reached the same scale. In this version of events, the majority of indentured servants would be white, and there would be very few slaves for life, although it's possible that Native Americans would have been racially associated with slavery. The system of indentured servitude would eventually be abolished, much earlier than slavery was in our timeline and in a much more gradual and peaceful way as it became economically irrelevant. It's possible that there would also be some trade with the muslim world for slaves, who would be of a more cosmopolitan origin, and maybe some eventual subsaharan trade, but it would be established much later and never reach the same scale.
The second is that the Caribbean, the Deep south, and much of central and south America would remain largely Uncolonized. Because these regions were the major drivers of colonization, it would probably mean less colonization in North America as well. Without slave labor, settlements would be much less profitable, especially in hot, humid jungle regions with malaria and yellow fever. There would still be some incentive to colonise these areas - cotton, tobacco, and sugar would remain valuable commodities, and depopulation caused be small pox would create a demand for settler labor. The situation would be more complex though, and the industries would be much less profitable. The Colonization of the Americas would be very different in our timeline, in some regions resembling the 19th century colonization of Africa, and in other regions resembling the colonization of Australia. While most of the continent would eventually be subjugated, some regions would evolve into a patchwork of native dominated states (which would eventually get their independence from colonial overlords). These regions would be in the less economically profitable regions - the great plains, the tundra, the jungles of central and south americas, and regions less accessible to Europeans - bolivia, the rockies, and the amazon. Some Areas with large native populations, like Florida which put up a lot of resistance and British Columbia, which was had already recovered from small pox benefited greatly from indirect trade with Europeans before they made direct contact, may have remained effectively independent. There would also be several European dominated states, mostly in temperate regions like the midatlantic, northeast, and midwestern regions of the US (maybe also California), Quebec and Ontario in Canada, and Argentina. There might also be some tiny european dominated states in the Caribbean (in islands that never recovered from depopulation) and around critical trading points like the mouth of the Mississippi and the mouth of the Amazon. The whole continent would be less populous than it is today, as European colonization would have happened at a much lower scale, and the natives would still be recovering from the massive depopulation caused smallpox.
The third is that development of the tobacco, cotton, and sugar industries is relatively slow and unprofitable until the industrial revolution. In this scenario, the Americas are conquered by the colonial powers during the age of exploration, but growth and settlement are very slow during this period. As a consequence, the local populations never really become significant enough to mount independence movements, and remain controlled by Europe. The industrial revolution, however, creates an immense demand for raw materials, and the expansion of European powers into Africa and South Asia creates a new supply of labor for agriculture. European countries would shuffle non-slave labor between their colonies, much like the British empire did in the 19th century during our timeline from, this would ultimately result in a large flow of population from Africa and south Asia to the Americas, especially the tropical regions. The result would be a very cosmopolitan and mixed race American continent.
Even today, in North of Africa, there are Muslims trading with subsaharan slaves. When are they going to apologize?
10:54 Where is the sea between Fennoscandia and the Baltics, Germany, and Denmark?
Didnt notice that
Any Crusader Kings 2 players here?
"...and you get a Holy War! You get a Holy War! Everyone gets a Holy War!!!!"
There are vassals with worrying lines of succession!
"You revolt! You revolt! You revolt! Everyone is revolting oh god oh fu-"
AGOT Mod: ....Dragon Conquest
You should do a ‘What if The Aztecs Empire Hadn’t Fallen’
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What if Australia took over the world?
kek
+Thulle Violent games would be illegal.
+Thulle The Kangaroo would become the common medium of transportation.
Idk m8
Mad max
big spiders are all over the world
that is creepy
Viva España y Portugal 🇪🇸🇵🇹 Iberia rules
Bocadillo de Albóndigas SIM/SI!
True story 🇵🇹/🇪🇸
Anda ya sabes que Iberia no rules at all.
Please don't put both names together, last time it went wrong
The complete opposite
When he had the Pope winking at 6:32 I died of laugher
note that the majority of the army that conquered spain from north africa (modern morocco) were berbers amazighs and not arabs, yes they were some arabs but the general who lead the army was berber, tariq bnou ziyad was his name, and the army was predominatly amazigh, it was an islamic berber conquest, not an arab one.
Eyyy thanks for mentioning I thought nobody cared
What if Islam had never been created... Well this video wouldn't have happened. End Story
Because we wouldn't have needed to talk about it?
+Daniel Bishop It's already been done!!! Search for "What if Islam never existed???"
+Chemo_star No, because 99% of scientific knowledge and invention from about 600 to 1500 CE came from Middle Easterners. Without them, we'd be FAR set back compared to where we're at now.
+SeaBiscuit yeah of Course 😂😂😂 as if inventions ever only could be made by religion
+SeaBiscuit true, but it is entirely possible the Arabs would have done that without Islam. They would probably have ended up Jewish or Christian anyway. Or some other random prophet.
What if Christopher Columbus never landed on Dominican Republic?
america would stay isolated for more years or maybe centuries and states could have been formed, as they were at the 1500's
The would still be discovered but by another country and a few decades later. Whoever does so could quickly colonize a lot of area, like Spain in South America. Wars would be very different, and there likely wouldn’t be an American revolution at the scale of our timeline. That means napoleon doesn’t rise up, which is a whole can of worms by itself. Completely alternate wars would happen and the world wars would never happen. The 20th century is completely different. Germany, the Soviet Union, and all American countries wouldn’t exist or would be completely different.
What if the Taiping Rebellion (1850-64) had succeeded?
I assume they would have created a Christian chinese dynasty until maybe a communist revolution or anti-monarchist rebellion overthrew them.....................
One very important thing he completely missed is the geostrategic importance of the straights of Gibraltar... Things are massively changed by this alone
Reminds me of playing Crusader Kings II.
Reminds me of EU4. I committed casual genocide against the Iberians
+Aviation lord "casual"
I really want to play crusader kings 2 so bad after this video... ;-;
+Winston Belgeroth deus vult brother
+Chris Carter I was playing it while watching this video
What if the Zimmerman telegram reached mexico ?
It did reach Mexico, the US just caught wind of it.
I think it did. The correct question is What if Mexico joined WW1 due to the Zimmerman Call?
Carolus Rex No, I think this will bring not just the US and Mexico into WWI, but also bring other American countries such as Canada, Caribbean Islands, South America, Latin America
Carolus Rex Ask Cody this is Alternate History.
+Carolus Rex
We weren't all out war fighting, in 1914-1918 was a political unstable time, but it wasn't a war zone.
Plus I think mexico would have accepted since presidents were changing year after year due to poor popularity among the population, so maybe a president would have tried to get the people choice if he promise to "Make Mexico Great Again" jaja
Portugal also held colonies in Africa: Angola, Mozambique and Cape Verde. Please include them in the map describing Portugual/Spain terrtorial holdings.
Interesting note: The Arabs had a lot of the knowledge that 'rebooted' Europe after the Dark Ages. That knowledge was captured during the Reconquista, but much was destroyed along the way. One of the reasons for the voyage that 'discovered' the Americas was that Columbus determined he could make it to China or even India. This is because European estimates of the size of the Earth were significantly smaller. The Greeks, Romans, and Egyptians had fairly accurately determined the Earth's diameter, and the Arab nations had that information. It's likely that without evidence of somewhere to stop along the way, the initial discoveries of the 'New World' would have been by the Northwestern Europeans crossing the GIUK gap, since finding Iceland and then Greenland is not nearly as tough as crossing from Spain to the Bahamas.
if the reconquista failed.Then the mosque of cordoba would be freed
Correction: Cathedral of Cordoba
+Amri Steve
You do know that they built over a church that they themselves destroyed right?
So no not freed just reenslaved.
Also today its a Cathedral-Mosque/Mosque-Cathedral which is a really good deal, be happy with that your lucky you get that much.
Darken De la Espada I know right, some religious people are are ignorant then claim that their peaceful and fair.
+Darken De la Espada source?
Tuber His AK-47 and IEDs are his source.
Played CK2 as Novgorod, was isolated for half the game, looked over at Iberia, the Teutonic order owned 80% of Spain.
Al-Andalus... not An-Andalus, although I'm not sure what it means. But apart from that, a very interesting video. I had never thought of the consequences it might have such a seemingly small detail of our vast history.
Its frôm roman latin bro its the translation "the"
amine mchanna Al-Andalus was the name given by the moors, not coming from latin. The Latin name of Iberia is "Hispania". Now, the literal translation of "Al-Andalus" I don't know, but it sure as hell is not "AN-Andalus".
+Tsubame al-andalous comes from latin word of wandals
in the arab texts, translation from latin ones, after the 8th century after Christ, they translate the toponym Hispania with "الأندلس"= Al-Andalus. "Al" is a particle that many arab words include and that had an effect on many spanish vocab. "Andalus" is the word they uses as the toponym. The origin of that word is disputed, since there is no prior notice of it in arab before 711 after Christ, You cannot assure what the origin of it is, but even if you could, that doesn't change what I said in my first comment: They wrote "An-Andalus" when it is "Al-Andalus". I just wanted to point that mistake out.
+Tsubame yes you are right or maybe he has a dialect/accent
I am a student of history. The information you gave is perfectly accurate
1:59
Plagueis
Darth Plagueis...
Now that's a name i haven't heard in a long time.
I'm not used to watch history videos where my country (Spain) is this important. You forgot some Portuguese territories in África.
If it had failed a part of Europe might have become something like Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc
you would think, but if you read the history the islamic caliphate in iberia was the most technologically advanced nation in europe *at the time*, they also had the most populous city in the world at the time with almost a million citizens (Cordoba) while the most populous city in christian europe at the time barely hit 100,000 citizens, if you don't believe me go read books about the caliphate or if you have bussiness to attend to go to Wikipedia
@Bilal Hussain Same reason all big countries try to expand
hey man one of your first followers here, and looking at this video after seeing youre recent vids, youve come a long way my dude, keep it up
Wait; if the Muslims conquered most of Iberia, doesn't this mean that they'd chop up bits of the Americas for themselves?
+Evan1214 There is that possibility.
+amak3 Imagine that; Muslims inhabiting Mexico and the Bible Belt; it's hard to think of.
+Evan1214 Just think of it; gays stoned to death, women forced to adhere to strict dress codes, the opinion of a woman equaling..what is it....2/3 a mans? Ah so nice.
+Evan1214
No African nation has ever build a sea wide faring vessel. And the first Muslim nation to build one wasn't until the 17 century.
+Protoman ever heard of Zheng He?
It's "Al-Andalus", not "An-Andalus"
Then I might right now be looking for ways to justify marriage between a 6 year old girl and a 54 year old man
silly excuse
Please do another Alternate Countries episode. I have quite a few I want to share.
HOW DO THE BASQUES PLAY INTO THIS
If the reconquista didn’t happen I wouldn’t be learning fùcking spanish in school
in some ways the reconquists did fail.
we've been invaded again.
Pure cringe. Is islam the problem or the immigrants?
Suggestion, a series in which you examine what would happen if every American state suddenly went independent and became it's own nation? (Note: I know this is similar to your 50 States, 50 Scenarios series) What would their relations be? What would the most powerful be? Weakest, most wealth, etc. I really would enjoy this as a series.
3:33 Saudi did not exist at that time your lack of historical knowledge is seeble.
Portugal and Spain are combined but you forgot Angola and Mozambique, just letting you know^_^
And India, sri lanka, indonesia, macau, nagasaki (parts of them tho)
in comment section all people are thinking that muslims had been successfully removed from iberia. but remmember that islam is the fastest growing religion in europe and the world. many spanish people are converting to islam. within 100 years europe will become half muslim. i am not hating other people . i am just telling the truth. #believethat
Well, in the very far future, everybody will be atheist, so it doesn't really matter.
Islam is not the fastest growing religion in Europe. Bacteria grows fast.. bacteria must be good then.
more spanish are converting to muslims? fuck no, more and more are leaving religion, and those who remain are mostly the old people, which are christians.
100 YEARS!? In this velocity in 100 hundred years even aliens will be muslins.
Incredibly beautiful painting, I love it
So vivid and dynamic
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
For the grace, for the might of our lord.
For the home of the HOLY!
For the faith, for the way of the sword.
GAVE THEIR LIVES SO BOLDLY!!!
How is Europe holy, Jesus never set foot in Europe, and you killed the community of Jesus the Jews
@@محمدطه-ع7ر the guy you replied too has probably never opened any religious text lmao
@@crazycookfyrelomenot Yes I agree, The Chirstian claim Jesus to be their savior, but only if they would look into their books, Mathew chapter 15 verses 23-25, Jesus said I have only been sent unto the lost sheep of Israel.
These people replying have probably never heard a Sabaton song.
Wow, I never knew people started a comment thread under mine. I find it hilarious that there are people here that are apparently butthurt by my comment. My comment was supposed to be a reference to a song made by a rock band by sabaton titled: "The Last Stand". The reason I referenced the song here is because it is often used as a meme in any medieval style game where knights retaking something is involved. The reason I'm explaining this thoroughly is because there are clearly uncultured swine on here :P
I also just for the record I'm already educated in my religion. I'm not super religious or go to church really but my values are Christian and I understand what most of the bible is about. I don't need a foreigner who isn't Christian to tell me what is what with my religion. Now please go back to eating pork or something.
Hey for future vids, can you please not do the black solid with the black shadow with the countries. It made it look blurry and my eyes (15/20) were trying really hard to adjust to it.
We saved Europe no problem guys
I have some interesting scenarios to share:
1) central and south america would be muslim, but the united states and Canada would be rather the same (christian and well developed). Maybe a muslim Mexico would be stronger and resist the loss of territory it suffered.
2) Europe could be almost totally protestant, because the Habsburg dinasty would not have Spain. They were strong catholic defenders. Maybe the papacy would not resist against the Reform, and a central christian authority would cease to exist. In this scenario, France could be also protestant.
3) Austria, with weakened Habsburgs, would be conquered by the Ottomans. Even so, the collapse of the Ottomans would be inevitable.
4) England and France would be much less of rivals, because they would need to unite and protect themselves against muslim Spain and muslim Austria.
5) an german unification could happen earlier. Napoleon destroyed the Holy Roman and Prussia emerged later from the ashes. This could be prompted by the ottoman Austria.
6) Italy without the Pope has multiple possibilities, it would be either more French or more Ottoman. Let's stick with an French Italy.
7) a world war with these two blocks would be inevitable (protestant christians England France North America Italy vs. Muslims Spain Ottomans South América).
8) Assuming that Russia, Japan and China would be less affected, it is interesting to think if they would involve themselves in this WW.
Love the "Papa bless." @ 5:15 lmao
If Reconquista was failed:
The Cordoba: still developing science
7:44 brutal conquer?The British and Americans are the brutals
both were brutal
um.... the Brits colonized the East coast and even forced the settlers to not expand to far west as it would run into conflicts with the Native populations. Britain was also allied with alot of the natives. The Americans expanded West with the thought that the land was theirs due to the Louisiana purchase, the Mexican-American War, the Oregon treat, and the land purchased from Mexico and thus simple pushed any natives in the way out of the way. Really early on native were allowed to integrate into American society (the peaceful ones) until Andrew Jackson who did the whole trail of tears thing and then the manifest destiny where conflicts between settlers and natives would arise and in response the federal army would come and destroy any "hostile" natives (the settlers were just a hostile and normally the hostilities came because of settler encroachment on native lands and what not). Spain on the other hand came, slaughter god knows how many natives. Force them to be slaves, and once they died replaced them with blacks. The Spaniards and Portuguese were far crueler on the native populations and even on the blacks (imported way more slaves then Britain and the USA ever did). So while Britain and USA were brutal they were in no way near the level of brutality that the Spanish and Portuguese were.
@@a-drewg1716 JAJAJAJJAJAJA no way, The spanish and portuguese were less brutal than the British, so, why there are not "mestizos" in USA, Canada, New Zealand and Australia? Britain and the USA exterminated almost the complete of their original native population while the Spanish and portuguese mixed whit the original indians
@@juansehernandez4504 That have to be one of the most ignorant things i ever Heard the reason for your qurstion is more complex than that its because the áreas were the english colonized there were barely natives and was barely populated, Maybe??? the áreas were spain colonized was full of natives and native civilizations the spaniards could not Just ignore the natives or kill them that would be a waste of time so they Just put themselves at the top of the heryarchy and make the natives work for them, also the spaniards Who came were mostly men, so they took native wives the brits came in entire families, and the most important thing the USA and canada received mássive inmigration from europe since their creation that didnt happend that much in latín america except for argentina cuba and brazil thats why those 3 have the most "puré" White people in latín america and in general are 3 of the whitest countries there so yep stop pretending spain was some moral european empire it really wasnt
You should do: "What if the portuguese maritim expansion never apened?"
Well if I had to guesd I'd say that really depends on WHY it didn't happen.
Option 1: portugal never splits from spain: spain would've done it, and been noticeably stronger as a result. Slavery is a far lesser institution historically as a result (the Trastamara were anti-slavery and only allowed it because of Spain's trade deal with portugal, without portuguese slavery they would've continued to punish it from the start.
Option 2: The Portuguese-Spanish wars are too harsh and both factions grow isolationist and ignore maritime expansion: Britain does it instead. Britain is the first to america. Portugal and Spain industrialize earlier. The Napoleonic Wars become a massive unpredictable clusterfuck as a result, but I'd guess Napoleon does manage to consolidate control over the spanish and italian peninsulas, probably making a deal with the pope for such, splitting europe in two.
Option 3: the one depicted on the video: Islam grows a lot more through africa and asia. Britain reaches the americas first. The world as a whole is in for massive religious wars for ages to come. The Balkans and Iberia take the brunt of them.
Europe will never be fall to islam
the difference between muslims and christians is this :
2:14 and 6:13
Get out of Ukraine сука
+Vrai Forte Du Nord Et Gratuit (A Canadian) no it's my oil-
I mean land
Bosnia,Turkey,South Russia,and more.
Then explain to me the Syrian refugee crisis
Not going to lie. I suscribe to this channel for political ideas for my D&D game. Using what-ifs from the real world i can create realistic political climates in my fake one. Thank you very much, Fellow Ohioian, for this channel!
One difference might have been a slower colonization of the new world. Introduce some of those important animals to N. America and you might just find the natives a bit more resistant to disease and a bit more prepared for invasion.
False, the 700 years was only in Granada. In Northern/Central Iberia was less time.
He didn't say all of it.
Mid and north Spain was under Arab rule for a much shorter time
Yes, Islamic rule lasted only for 500 years in Iberia.
@@lukethomeret-duran5273 Northern Spain never became Muslim.
you tell me 700 years to crash kingdom of Granada?