New Electric - The converted Electric Tractor that pulls 30 tonnes
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- In today’s Fully Charged PLUS episode Robert speaks with New Electric founder Anne Kloppenberg about their 100% fully electric tractor conversion.
We featured this impressive vehicle briefly back in October 2021 on the main channel as part of Robert’s ‘Return of the Leaf’ episode, but we felt we’d share a bigger piece here on PLUS. The tractor has had the diesel engine, gearbox and transmission removed and is now 100% electric. Battery packs replace the area the diesel engine was housed in, and with 2 motors joined together by one gearbox, they have created double the power, up to 150 KW maximum. The tractor was designed to tow huge trailers full of building material around building sites in central Amsterdam where all combustion engines are soon to be banned.
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So glad you went back for another interview. I will always remember him and his boat conversion fondly. It's been years, but look how far he's come.
I am an farmer and i need this 😁😁😁 i nag on the local tractor dealer for the electric version of the diesel every time i meet him. Will show him this. IT IS DOABLE 😁😁😁
Yes! How does this compare to Solectrac's 70hp tractor?
@@niceride its a bit like compare a mitsubishi imiev to a Tesla.
that is for garden or city parks, this One is ok for farming. I think i have small requriments on the Tractors and i say 5.5 tonnes (and a drivetrain that can pull it)
But we have a problem with farmers going electric, i have calcylated that 10 -20 days a year i need rediculous Range, and i mean rediculous to Keep the crop quality at a high level, lets say replace 300litres of diesel to Keep me satesfied
But i have a suggestion on the solotion aswell, do it BMW i3 Rex style. 350-500kwh electric power and a 200 litres diesel tank. Then i would lower my diesel use with a Huge ammont.
It's doable but not now and definitely not with the shortage of battery, tesla hasn't even started making their semi that uses alot of batteries.
@@carholic-sz3qv thats the problem. But in 5 years time it should exist.
@@kulan9379 I agree, like you, I'm a farmer, during harvest and land work, so 5 months, we work from about 10 am through to late 10pm sometimes a few days 2am, so 13 hours up to 16. This is for councils, construction workers and builders who may get to 8 hours, not farming. could you imagine trying to get harvest in then having to stop while you charge a battery, or drilling to get seed in before the rain stops everything. Eventually something will come, electric makes sense on repairs, wheel stops going round fitters come out replace motor, simple. From the point of practicality though, I think hydrogen or something yet to be discovered.
RL is just the best; always enjoy his interviews, expertise, and humour
Let’s see it at work pulling the 30 tonnes not just talking about it PLEASE.
Yeah, I dont want to hear some lad using math to calculate it.
I mean. It could pull 30 tons if the diesel engine could. Pound for pound, electric is much more powerful than an Internal Combustion Engine.
So it can pull 30 tons, so the real question is, how long can it pull it for. A diesel engine….all day. An electric tractor…..maybe an hour or two.
@@Jay_Force_One at 2:10 he said "halling 30 tons it can do 8 full hours"
Showing us the full interview was indeed a good idea. Thank you.
Once again we have an example of time flying by, it doesn't seem lime it has been 5 months but October to March is, inescapably, that much time.
Another brilliant piece of Dutch (pragmatic) engineering....
( I'm Dutch and an engineer 😎)
Very interesting more fully electric tractor stuff please .
Yes I totally want to see more of this. Same goes for diggers.
weight is a disadvantage because you have field compression, this only works for road runs, I'm yet to see a viable electric tractor that could actually do any farm work
I don't disagree with you on the 2nd part, I don't think this is the answer to changing from diesel but weight is a benefit to most field work at least here in the USA. Not everything of course but most farmers have suit case weights on the front, wheel weights, fill the tires with fluid, ect.. A lot of weight helps with most jobs. Not all but at least a lot.
It feels like you could still work though depending on what kind of farm you are actually running on. If it has to go through a lot of mud, then it could be a problem unless it is boosted up in height more, which I don’t see it being a problem. But on other types of farms that just has to haul a lot of heavy stuff across rough to rain then this could very well work.
If I’m honest, there will be more electric tractors in future, but it will be methane or hydrogen that will replace the current Diesel engines, cuz because quicker to refill then plugging in electricity and is a lot lighter.
Weight in a tractor is always an advantage 🤣. Tractor means "traction engine" originally. I mean with the torque this capable of (way more than a diesel) you need more of a normal force (i.e. down force)
Way to go Anne! I met him back in the day at Jack Rickard's EVCCON and I visited his shop in Amsterdam in 2015.
Great idea, why not make fit some of the battery pack detachable on the front as a weight block? Batteries get low, change them..
Yeah I reckon this is a field where replaceable batteries would be a good use case.
Did anyone else notice that it doesn’t have a tow hitch. Before everyone (with a limited knowledge of farming) gets too carried away, a few observations from a farmer.
This tractor isn’t massive, in fact it’s a mid range model, by modern standards.
Ignore the talk of it being able to pull 30 tonnes. Maybe on paper, but that tractor definitely isn’t rated at 30 tonnes.
That size of tractor is probably rated at 10 tonnes.
It’s fitted with Michelin maxibib tyres designed for road use.
It’s claimed it will work 8 hours a day, but if it’s hauling loads in & out of a construction site there’ll be lots of downtime & lots of moving slowly in traffic etc etc.
For modern large scale farming batteries as a source of power just aren’t viable. There simply isn’t enough stored energy & recharging would simply take too long.
If you hooked a bit of cultivation equipment to this or a full trailer of harvested crop, I doubt it would last 2 hours.
A lot of modern agriculture, especially in Europe is performed by contractors. These are specialists who turn up with the equipment & staff to do a particular job.
Often these vehicles will be refuelled on the job, a fuel tanker or bowser will arrive where they’re working & refuel them to keep working.
It’s common for them to work round the clock at peak times.
Battery technology will transform lots of industries but it’s not the answer fir modern agriculture.
In any case, that shouldn’t be the priority now.
One of the biggest issues in urban environments is tailpipe emissions (this was referred to in the video)
It’s more important to solve those problems at this point in the transition away from fossil fuels.
Agricultural solutions are on the way, make no mistake.
Tractors are manufactured by global corporations these days, they’ll be working hard behind the scenes, of that you can be assured.
Thus tractor is a Fendt, a well known premium German brand. Fendt is part of AGCO, probably the biggest corporation of them all, with several leading brands in its business.
Soo... to cut through the negativity - what you're saying is that this tractor DOESN'T do what it WASN'T designed to do!
However it DOES do what it WAS designed to do......
Hmmm....sounds like a win, to me.....!!
@@andymccabe6712 yes exactly that, but this interview is making it all seem a bit better than it actually is. the guy is also mentioning that this tractor used to have about 160 KW of power with the diesel engine which is simply wrong. it's a Fendt 300 vario and those only go up to 142 hp or 104 kw.
Which is making me wonder how accurate his whole talk is if he get such a key number wrong.
also why use a vario (cvt) transmission with an electric motor, to me that just seems like adding a whole lot of complexity, weight and a waste of energy (CVT's have an efficiency of below 80% i think) when the whole advantage of an electric motor is that it doesn't really need a transmission
@@andymccabe6712 Yep, it was designed to convince people who have no knowledge of the scale of farming or construction or actually pretty much the real world that it is a viable replacement for diesel. And for the most part it succeeds in doing that.
There just like the pricks in Brussels telling us what we can and can’t do to our crops. They have no clue about the farming industry
Thanks Robert. Big Auto are killing themselves off by delaying commercial EV's for 10 years like that. Many will not exist by then.
China is releasing a lot of very very convincing vehicles
I remember the video which works with the previous video on converting dust bin wagons. .... Very clever.
as stated - weight in a tractor is an advantage... Though naturally weight does cost energy -- solong as the storage is there to work all day it is all good.
is it ironic that Fendt made a legit try at this once and it totally flopped. it will do OK for hauling but pulling and PTO work will kill it a 3m power harrow would drain it 3 hours not even 1/3 of a days work.
1/3rd of a days work?? you show me an Ag tractor that shuts down after only 8 hrs, many a farmer has 20 hr long days with only poop and fuel breaks, go down for 4 or 5 hrs of sleep and up again till planting or harvest is done. The govt is going to force this technology on our farmers tripling the cost of food production while allowing imports from the 3rd world who will not use this technology for another 100 years killing all locally produced food
@@scout2nut for farms that normally have a tractor that size that's about a third of a day work. But for the other larger farms they do run longer I've personally done 48 hour shifts.
@@phalanx3803 massive weight increase as well. More soil compaction
@@carterfarms301 with current batteries to make an electric tractor just as capable as a diesel your talking doubling the weight and for a high class combine about triple the weight.
I was going to get one of these tractors but I realised that it would take two days to charge on my home 7kW charger. 😂
You'd need 3 phase, which most farms probably already have. I think that would allow 22kw charging.....
@@Brian-om2hh 11kw almost every home has and almost all farms who could afford one of these have 22kw
When I see it actually pulling a farm implement in a field and not 30 tonne road packer that once is moving, doesn't take a pile of energy to keep it moving, then it will be "wonderful".
and for 16 hrs straight
Like to see an electric Road train pulling a triple in the Pilbara in the out back.
Yeah I actually reackon an electronic tractor would absolutely eat a diesel tractor in the field! But yeah I've been on farms where the machine ran literally 24/7 for weeks at a time only stopping to refuel and full seeders and what not... I just don't know how realistic it is... Do you need 2 or 3 electric tractors to do the job 1 Diesel tractor can do?
@@daviddou1408 yeah well western Australia is where I've spent a bit of time working and for the size and scale you would have to drag around a fucking big diesel generator just to keep up with the workload... I just don't know how they could ever make that work... Would you have to have more bigger machines just to carry and replace massive battery packs for 500-650 hp machines? But then they don't have the infrastructure for that amount of power... They would have to have more Diesel generators??? So what's the point haha
When the technology catches up, it will run 24 hours a day, unmanned.
Careful what you wish for.
Need to see a real life test in the field, for a full hard days work.
....but can it pull a tank?
On point👍
But then you would have to convert the tank 🙂
This is another great example of adapting a platform into which the regular manufacturer hasn't yet put any serious effort.
This sort of project, like the electric-converted bin trucks, is more impressive to me than the latest cars, especially given the much higher percent duty cycles involved. Electrifying things that are in use all day in close proximity to people os much more important (IMHO) than another £50k MEB-platform single-occupant tax-dodge that sits going nowhere for maybe 90% of the time.
More of this sort of thing, please!
As an ex Farmer I can tell you that we need tractors that can run for 16 hours on one charge, working hard all the time. Or be able to charge in 30 mins. Running a power harrow or pulling a big plough and you would get through that 360kWh in less than 8 hours, never mind 16. Most tractors could increase in length, and I suspect this will be necessary in order to incorporate enough battery capacity.
@@captain1664 Fast Easy Battery Swapping system would make fare more sense.... than having to use a huge battery pack that could handle a full day of farm work....
But small ICE range extenders EV Tractors will be a more likely 1st step? Time will tell....
@@captain1664 Tractors out in the fields are not where this conversion is targeting - look at the main channel video about electrification of old ICE bin trucks, where they talk of tailoring a commercial vehicle to a specific route. We're not talking general purpose (part of the legacy manufacturers' lengthy lead times will be the "jack-of-all-trades" market needs).
In the dawn-til-dusk 16hr ploughing case, JCB's work on Hydrogen-fueled ICE makes more sense.
This video is about a specific vehicle developed for a specific job - to haul materials to and from a city-based development. For that, 8hrs is plenty.
@@captain1664 For that application I guess biofuel is the best carbon neutral (depending on the source...) option for now. No modification to the tractor necessary.
@@examinerian Most tractors of this formfactor are used in farming though. Sure, I've seen few such tractors around roadworks and construction. But far more often I've seen more specialised machinery.
And when it comes to farmers, with todays machinery prices they usually can buy only one or two tractors that will do all the jobs around farm.
I love these conversions and proof of concepts, would be great to know how much less to run they are over a lifetime of use but time will tell I guess
just don't ask how much the initial cost was ;)
But that is with a lot of farming equipment…
Yes cost information would be interesting.
For now, it looks like an expensive toy 🪀🪀🪀🧸🧸🧸 .......... ?
@@Novadean1 toy? It’s a necessary to be a contractor in this area or you can not get a permit (real estate prices are €8000 M2/ ~$800 sq/f)
This is what we were waiting for.
That guy is a great interview and sharp!
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Good hope for converting 00's and newer cars. Classic cars all fine and dandy, but this! needs to be done for these mass-produced things that can still take a conversion, which would otherwise land in a scrapyard with a still-good body.... Keeping original ECUs (and as its possible, conversion mostly can keep original weight) most of the time also means, you can have something that is 00's till today's safe (airbags, safety belts tensioners etc), proper crash zones, while also being electric. Might i also say, this could keep most of parts suppliers for these cars also afloat...well apart from engine parts, but everything else? doesn't change, and still will be needed, and will need to be still made. Electric conversion, can be pretty much a bolt-on...
Great episode with Anne Kloppenborg and Mr Ll, Its a beast of a machine but would like to see it working in the environment its been designed for... Will there be a follow up episode?
Exactly what I was thinking, be so cool to see this doing its job.
@@gusbarber00 Yes how long you can work hard with this batteries ........... ? ? ?
Yes it definitely would be a good advertisement for it if they can show it in its working environment next.
@@Novadean1 it says in the video at 02:17 . 8 hours of work pulling 30 tons.
I'd like to see that Fendt being used on a farm to see how well it copes with life.
id imagine ploughing would suffer due to weight. ford john deere would have done this ages ago if it was practical
@@vincentoconnell2560 If it was easily done. 8 hours of work is just half day at the farm.
fendt alredy tried to make one it was only a small vineyard one it never got to market. it was called the e100 Vario.
@@vincentoconnell2560 Why'd thr weight be an issue? It probably came like max 1tn heavier with removal of engine and adding 1,5tons of batteries.
Love the idea, but a farmers day is a lot longer than 8 hours
post stated, it was not targeted to farmers
There are many parts of the world where an analogue tractor is the preference
The baby tribble on his shoulder was well trained
A 360KWh battery will only give a continuous 36KW of power for a 10 hr shift. For many farm jobs that won't be enough.
I question the numbers he is giving, full work for 8 hrs is his claim, I can see this thing running itself for less than 20km/hr for at most 8 hrs, but to haul 30tons for 8 hrs at what speed? I am feeling doubtful, not to mention, if this tractor was still diesel powered it could run for basically 24/7 with short breaks for refuel and basic maintenance, as an electric, one machine=8hrs before recharging for several hours, so several of these VERY expensive machines would have to be deployed to cover what one ICE machine could do before.
Its neat technology, but we are a long ways off yet before its practical. Just think of how much cost and time overage the running of this system will place on any project.
And that's not even talking about longevity, an ICE machine can run for decades with the original powertrain given good maintenance, just like electric cars, no matter how good of maint you give, the battery pack can only be cycled so many times before failure, and the pack will cost more than the value of the car/machine. A Tesla battery will last at most 8 to 12 years, a new battery is over $20,000 and does not look likely to be much cheaper in the future. These cars/machine are a rich mans toy or will require such heavy govt subsidies that they will never really compete on their own.
@@scout2nut
omg funny, ..ever owned a 'tractor"?
Good thing they didn't build it for a farm then!
At 100hp continuous power, the consumption of tractor like this would be like 30l/hr, which would be about 360kWh worth of diesel.. With electric you'd need about half that, e.g. 180kWh. But running around town (which is a bit stupid with a thing like this) you'd probably only consume like 20% of that or 36kWh - thus 360kWh could easily go 8-10 hours.
@@rkan2 @ 100hp (70KW) output the electric tractor would be finished after 5 hours. The Diesel version would last 15 hrs on one tank full, and if that ran out could be refuelled in 10 minutes.
8 hours on a trailer, but on our rototiller for potatoes our around 140kw tractor uses 400 liters of diesel from 7am to 3pm, then another 300 from 3pm to 8pm, taking about 10 minutes to fuel up. When the electric tech can replicate jobs such as that it will be a viable alternative, but until then I think we must also check out other methods such as hydrogen or methane (which has its own benefits especially on livestock farms) before we commit to electric only
I was actually surprised. 8 hours is already a ton lot if it's 8 hours really working. I honestly didn't think it was possible right now.
Then you need 2 for your kind of shifts, for now.
Please ask Anne, why not just add AC and an off the shelf Sat Nat system to existing Tractor that would be converted? Which should be easier to repair too?
As a non-brit, what fuels your power generation there?
Renewables - around 30% (maybe slightly more), wind probably around 15%, the rest will be a mix of nuclear, solar, natural gas and biomass. The UK gets less than 2% from coal now..... The target is 100% renewables by 2030.... Britain already has one of the World's largest wind farms, sited in the North Sea......
fantastic ..come on world ..lets do this faster
I loved this interview but there’s one thing that Robert does that really annoys me and I’m sure will annoy you as well when you recognise it.
Robert is constantly saying ‘yeah, right, oh, yes’ when the other person in speaking.
Maybe I’m just being precious, but I don’t think I’d be the only one.
I recommend either cutting his mic or reducing it’s volume when the interviewee is speaking.
You've gotta start directing your own videos with tips like that mate, insightful stuff! 🤣
@@greygold4889 have you noticed how he tried to suggest that, surely, other people. MUST feel the same........?!
For any Ukrainians watching, could you please confirm whether this can tow an abandoned tank away? 😁
I looked it up and 30 tonnes is not quite enough - needs to be about 40
@@timmurphy5541 Many years ago when i worked on the motorway i once tow started a Magirus Deutz tipper truck that could carry 20 tons with a 110 Land Rover Defender that's only suppose to tow 3500kgs so maybe the tractor would still manage it?
The driver promised to let the clutch up slowly. He swears he did, but i still headbutted the steering wheel when he did 😣
@@timmurphy5541 Perhaps not a T90 but all those Russian APCs are a lot less than these things can deal with!
Beautiful tractor! What a great interview!
One of the most intelligent guys invited to the show.
Gunna share this to all my farmer mates on FB!
A lot of tractors here dont turn the key off for 6 weeks,, but l see it would have its uses..
@@shaneoneil9433 yeah when I shared it I said it very much depends on your use profile. For cropping a large Aust farm you probably need more hydrogen to be ZEV.
It would be good to hear some feedback from an end user. How's it working for them?
Hello contract from Tesla. Well done guys great work.
That tractor is really impressive I really like it
Wonder why there's no video of the tractor actualy working.
As with four-wheel drive, four-wheel braking and higher road speeds these early converters are ironing out the gremlins for the mass -production tractor makers to step in as and when they please.
It's a great idea but unfortunately the working day for a tractor or digger is a lot more than 8 hours. Harry Metcalfe of Harry Farm. Interviewed Sir John Banford of JCB and suggested the size of battery needed for a 12 or 14 hour day would make the vehicle too heavy to operate. Jcb is looking at hydrogen as a realistic solution as there is no down time for the machine other the fill up the hydrogen tank.
Allis Chalmers experimented with fuel cell tractors back in the 50s but the tech was way ahead of its time. The greens do not want hydrogen fuel cells, not because they don't work and they basically only emit water, It's because of the hydrogen, the number one source of industrial hydrogen is natural gas, the cheapest way to produce it is splitting the hydrocarbon gas into Hydrogen and ....brace yourself.....CO2, so its no better than running an IC engine, just at three times the cost. every major car manufacturer has made usable fuel cell cars but have not brought them to market because of this problem, its sad as well, because a fuel cell can be refueled in a matter of minutes just like gasoline, and if you run out on the road just get a small bottle of compressed hydrogen and get your self to a station, run out of electric and your calling a tow truck
Fendt have a prototype operational fully electric already
Interesting vid👍Fendt isn’t too far away from electric tractor, I see autonomous tractor either electric or hydrogen power n size powered of 200hp this would operate a lot different working farms. These tractors could be use in emergencies as back up generator or water pump.
A full 8hrs so that's half a day🤣 in all serious honesty that would take it to 3pm give or take depending on when you start what about the other 8hrs +/- hours we work and yes that's in a day during busy times?
All good and well it's got more and faster power to the ground but how long does it take to charge in comparison to how long it takes to fuel a tractor with conventional diesel. Normal tractors that have 303 gallon or 1200L tanks, take about 15 to 20 Min to fuel up.
Charging power is all more a question about how much you can afford to put in chargers and in to your electric connection to the grid. 360kW connection to the grid is quite expensive, somewhere it can be more than the charger itself.
It may pull 30 tons but only for a short time as the batteries quickly deplete.
Amazing!
Okay so this is so awesome for regenerative agriculture. Many dairy farmers can only spread their own cows manure for about a 5 mile radius. This is because the diesel costs become prohibitive after the 5mi radius (20 min drive) but just imagine an electric tractor charged by solar panels on the land the farmers have means more money in farmer's pockets
Nice tractor! Does it still have PTO?
interesting and something to look forward too. but the biggest problem is if it breaks down on a field. Now you have to find someone who can fix that motor, vs an engine you can fix yourself or find a local mechanic. Plus the charging overnight vs fill it with fuel in a couple minutes. Yes fuel is expensive, but will you get more life out of that battery to make up the initial cost, repairs, and maintenance.
No need to transport Diesel to the farm and charge it from solar on the barn. just makes sense. Hope the total cost to operate will also be reasonable.
Great post... But did the OEM of the tractor, give New Electric founder Anne Kloppenberg the full specs on all its tech or did New Electric have to reverse engineer some of it to create their own schematics, to do the conversion? And who is the OEM of the ICEV version?
Since Tractor OEM's are being sued by farms to get the specs, so they can do their own repairs (ie to get the "Right to Repair")
i doubt it. but one could just fake all the sensors. Most of them are quite simpel digital or analog inputs.
Of course the original manufacturer did nothing to this project. They've just made fake sensors to lie to the ECU(s).
Be interested to know how many hours pto work it could do
2.6 at full power. 360/150
excellent job - Great Company
The question is what about those machines that run more the 12 hours a day, A lot of these machines run continually, here in planting season and harvest season many farmers and some construction sites run 24 hours a day and how much will the electrical bill be not to mention the cost of the new plug needed to charge the thing.
Tadus from germany is building electic tractors with easy changable batteries.
While the new Fendt electric tractors state to be usable for 10hours under full load.
Does a +12h work day, has the tractor running all the time at 100% load?
I imagine there would be downtime or work breaks 😅
Whatever happened to the Tesla estate build? I never saw an update on it.
A very short interview Rob, where was the charging and range info?
So when will they have anything suitable for farming? Only 8 hours. That's less than half a day during plowing and seeding. Actually the same applies to harvest time as well.
I would be surprised if this could be used at 90%-100% capacity for 8 hours constantly without the batteries overheating, i doubt
Brilliant peace Robert ❤️😊❤️
great for the hobby farmer and city slicker weekend jobs...
What kind of charger do you need? How long does it take to fully charge? How much the whole tractor+conversion cost?
I am curious about it too, I think they go with 50kW CCS/ChaDeMo - (10-90%) within 5-6hours - proprietary external charger will be a little cheaper (15kW module on ebay cost 1000euro) but I think this is a pennies in comparasion to cost whole machine
I’m a supporter of EVs for cars etc. but I think we need to be realistic about heavy plant equipment, tractors, HGVs - this is almost certainly too heavy for fields, and the 8 hours a day working time won’t cut it for such an expensive piece of capital equipment, it needs to be able to operate continuously. Nothing wrong with electric power, great torque etc. but until battery technology improves massively I can’t help thinking that hydrogen is the way forward for this stuff (JCB did a good video on this). Produce hydrogen from excess wind power rather than shut them off, though, any other way would be bonkers.
What car did they take the batteries and motors from?
They won't be from a car. They'll be similar to those used in electric HGV prototypes.....
excellent, as always
Are these tractors available in the market already?
Was Robert Honzek involved?If not you need to get hold of him in Germany..
Why not just hook them up to a big cable. like an electric hedge trimmers. a trollybus
I don't know much about motors, but I wonder if you could concert sth bigger like Fendt 1050 to 100% electric
Can you start converting old tracktors with older diesel motors to electric with a lot of power or convert them to vät gas it is in Swedish I don’t know the English word for it
So are the motors driving through the original Fendt Vario hydrostatic CVT? How is that being controlled? Seems like an opportunity to improve efficiency by removing the hydrostatic machines, particularly if the full torque-speed range of the base tractor isn't needed for this application.
It was a simpler conversion to just replace the diesel and leave everything else in place. They are not into rebuilding from the ground up, as stated.
Fantastic stuff.
A little closer look at the tractor inside and technical details would have been nice ? A bit of a flimsy report here ?
Can you still use the PTO 👍🇬🇬
Imagine something goes wrong. You’ll be out of work for weeks on end
This is really awesome, and the future is electric. However, todays diesel tractors are already too heavy for agricultural use in some countries like Norway where I'm from, so I don't think it is possible to make electrical tractors for agricultural use with today’s heavy battery technology. Tractors in agriculture does also need to have really fast charging times, so they can be used up to 20 hours a day in some periods.
For those two reasons, I think the agricultural tractors in the future is electrical with hydrogen as its energy storage, but battery tractors would take over when we manage to make a lighter “super battery” that has the same energy density as hydrogen.
I think it will go towards having 10 or so autonomous small robots run by electricity on the field. If one of them fails you still have 9. With increased battery charging speed that should work well. Using these big tractors with batteries just won't work out. There are a lot of farms that use their gear 24h a day for a short period. You don't have enough time to charge
@@JayCee2209 That could be many years from now, but the soil in Norway need a lot of work, so I don't see how it is going to work. We also have hills, wet places on the field etc. so the transition to smaller equipment is many years from now
8 hours at full noise ? Doubt it . Might be ok for very small acreage or pulling a wagon
Can all the Tesla gear be retro fitted to a commercial vehicle, so that it could still supercharge?
excellent!
У него тяговый класс 30 тонн что ли ?
Что-то мне не верится.
Quite interested of the terminology.. (not that I have a use for the information).
Is that 30 tons of static weight? or 30 tons of rolling weight?
It starts off static, then once it's moving it's rolling!
my pedantic friend...you need to 1st realize your wrong for assuming that a ton is the same as a tonne...
and common sense will answer, if it's static or dynamic inertia?. which one requires the peak level of force (ie power) from the tractor too be exerted on it, at a worksite? have a good day, sir....
I don't think it's a 30 ton bollard pull... just a 30 ton trailer.
@@gerry343 I have seen a guy pull a train and someone else pull a jumbo jet.
But I doubt they could do the same of the same weight as a bag rubble.
Check out the terberg yt203-ev
Any info update from Anne on how many more of these conversions his company has done please?
how do you charge it on a construction site ? diesel generator ?
They have two Kangoo I electric cars in the background. We also have these. I want to share my experience. How can I contact these masters?
Electric Tractors have been around for year's. Manufacturers haven't been interested in making them till now, and farm's ain't the same as clean roads, they are dirty places, and farmer's generally don't clean them..
So if these electric vehicles last for a couple of years how do you weigh the cost versus input versus output? I assume that they cost more resources than what they save especially if they only last a couple of years
why would this only last two years? teslas have reported more than 80% battery capacity retained after 150k miles and 8 year. obviously every EV and every battery is different but the "hur dur EV batteries don't last more than 2 years and cost $30k to replace" argument is getting really old. plus, these aren't being built for cost savings, it's for local emissions regulations.
there is more to consider than just fuel savings when you talk about ev vs ice though. especially when we're talking about tractors, the reduced maintenance required for an EV is likely a huge advantage that increases uptime on the tractor. modern tractors might have to wait weeks to get fixed when a sensor goes bad, but EVs are going to have much fewer sensors since there isn't an engine or (as complicated of) a transmission that needs to be monitored.
Just for the record, 8 hours is not a full day. But that’s also a small tractor
We’re you get the power from
how much range does it have?
Hey, two Renault 4L's! Are they going electric too?
I love it!
Great!
8 hours that may be someones day but if you want electric tractor in farming it would neet to have 24h battery and maybe 2-4h recharge
Price of this tractor ?
Mind blowing why the big manufacturers cant get on and do it, when a obviously educated you man can do it in a back street garage. By the not sure about the back street garage comment is entirely true. 😁
Where there's a will, there's a way. So many corporations are full of brilliant engineers, ability has never been their problem. 😉 Today it pays more to act a fool.