SOUND OF FREEDOM - Movie Review
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“i really don’t need a heart of darkness for basic bitches” 😂 love your reviews.
with movies judged (hyped?) through lenses of politics and money in the media, your critical review of the film itself is refreshing and important as it is that experience that matters most to cinephiles.
After red letter media, youre my favorite movie reviewer. Youre actually way better than anyone else on youtube at reviewing movies.
She’s what Stuckmann used to be like
@@g.williamwoodward6676 Stuckmann has been a robot since the mid 2010s. It's weird...
@@g.williamwoodward6676 Stuckmann never had this insight and knowledge of films to discuss, he just reviews the most popular films and repeats the main points one can find anywhere else.
@@g.williamwoodward6676 f stuckman
I’d like to see her cut loose a little bit on an episode of Best of the Worst with Mike, Jay, and Rich Evans
if theres one critic/personality i can trust with movie reviews, it's you :) thank you for upholding your professionalism
Very well said. I agree that it was 15-20 minutes too long and the performances were a little underwhelming and on the nose at times- (they really milked that tear dripping out of Jim Cs eye)… it also didn’t dive overly deep into Tim’s character and psychology, and there were some moments that it felt like were tonally out of place…. BUT I was never really bored by it… I think there was something about the films genuine earnestness that kept me engaged throughout. Overall, if you go into it with reasonable expectations, I think most people will be satisfied.
The length was okay but I was hoping for a little more action. I get that this was more a docudrama and police procedural so it's not gonna be like Liam Neeson kicking butt taking down an entire syndicate like Rambo. In fact there's little bad assery fighting at all so it was a somber realistic take. It was more educational than entertaining but I'm glad to support the cause and especially to help this passionate producer who fought so hard to get this film released. It almost didn't happen. Plus Angel studios was sued into bankruptcy by Disney before so happy to support them.
@@jonfreeman9682 I agree with you, I think the movie needed to pay off with one good action scene (in some form or another) at the end as a payoff. I think that final sequence in the camp just didn’t deliver in the way I had hoped. That final fight scene for example, I didn’t care the stylistic choice of showing it from the little girls perspective and obscuring most of it… I enjoyed it and was never bored, but yeah- I agree that is one area that could have been improved on for sure.
@@brianhoward3645 The last fight you could only see shadows as they fought in the dark so we didn't even get one good Liam Neeson butt kicking. In an interview with Tim Ballard they asked him did he ever actually kill anyone and he says no. That final fight with the drug lord never happened and was added to the film to make him a bigger hero. Yes he admits that and laughs. 😂
I thought it was pretty good. I definitely teared up several times, so it’s definitely touching. The kids were great. Might not watch it a second time (it’s pretty heavy), but I thought the pacing was mostly efficient.
I absolutely agree with you 💯 %!!!
"touching?"
You MONSTER!
"You were never really here" is a way much better movie that tackles the same subject matter. Also it was made by an actual filmmaker.
That's a great movie. I wish Lynne Ramsay would make more movies.
Love that film
@@jmack8767Yeah, shit filmmakers.
@@edreynolds8721 He's clearly implying a subjective difference in skill level or artistic capability rather than literally implying they aren't film makers lol. A little harsh, but I don't necessarily disagree
I feel the character more than the issue when I watch that movie... Its a great movie, but not really make me care with the issue, because the protagonist already have a very strong problem in life.
I haven’t seen Sound of Freedom, so I can’t judge the film. I do think it’s sad that people will often go to see a film because of a perceived political narrative rather than out of a genuine love for art. This happens across all ideologies, but conservatives will often flock to see “non-woke” films because so few of them get made.
first, let me say I do not believe in tribalism - so I am not a republican or democrat. I love the United States and its people. I believe in putting our country and our people front and center. But look into this assessment further... perhaps conservatives feel unheard and discriminated against in Hollywood. Constantly being told they "bigots, radicals, etc", when in reality they are just normal people that love their country. So they have a bit a resentment. They flock to see these films because they feel they aren't being marginalized like they typically are from Hollywood. So i understand why they do this. Just my thoughts and opinion. Have a good one!
@@AverageJoe483 I understand that, but if Sound of Freedom had been released in, say, 2008, it would have likely been considered just your standard action flick.
@@batman5224 probably right . But the political atmosphere and division in our country is much greater than in 2008. We are so polarized into an “ us” vs “ them “ sadly .
@@batman5224The Passion of the Christ came out in 2004. Look at what a phenomenon that turned out to be.
I don't think it's fair to call criticism of this film a "political agenda". If you do any research on the organization that the film is about, and learn about the financiers, you'll find controversy after controversy. Pedophilia within the organization, actions which increase the risk of children being trafficked, false leads that target groups based on ethnicity, an extremely bare bones training program, and actually engaging in child trafficking as a way to "fight" child trafficking. This film is a propaganda/damage control piece designed to make them look like heroes and not the pieces of shit that, hopefully, people across the political spectrum could see through
Another movie that came out of knowhere was Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. That mvoie i think deserved its craze and hype in comparison with this film like as you said, it wasnt very full of substance. But Puss im Boots 2 was fantastic imo. I would love to see your thoughts on the movie.
At the screening I went to, it was all people middle-aged or older who were in attendance. It's like they took a dark subject matter and made a hallmark movie out of it. I do appreciate it when indie films get their foot in the door in getting mass distribution. But I don't feel like it was because of its merits as a stand-alone film, as much as it was because of the message.
Thanks so much for your objectivity. As a conservative, I too found the actual film to be a bit clumsy at times. I agree that the villian is by far the most satisfying performance. I've been following your critical analysis of films for 3 or 4 years. Keep it up !
"As a conservative"
Tell me what you do to combat this activity occurring DAILY, here in the States, in the following conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults:
FLDS, Mormons, Southern Baptists, Jehovahs Witnesses, Basic Life Principles, Branch Dravidians, Children of God, La Luz del Mundo, Catholic Church?
I'm not at all justifying child abuse of any sort. I was simply commenting on a film on purely artistically terms. Your critique of Christian involvement in such matters hits me as a bit one sided. Where's all that hostility coming from bro ?
Brad Jones mentioning someone like Paul Schrader being able to make a movie about this subject better
Thank you for an honest review of this film, finally! The whole situation with the political agenda was getting ridiculous. Someone in the comments mentioned "You were never really here" as a beautiful, more cerebral film with a somewhat similar story. Do you think you'll ever review that film?
Have you seen Sound of Freedom? Its not cerebral - its emotionally compelling.
There’s nothing political in the film.
I went to see Sound of Freedom to form my own opinion based on the work itself and not the noise from both sides. You echo my sentiments exactly. I would add that the young boy/brother's performance was also excellent.
I went to support the cause and mostly the producer for working so hard to get this film released. Plus Angel studios who fought with Disney and went bankrupt. Happy to support them but felt the same about the movie itself.
Movie was good message but we have to be honest and say it was a bad script. It was Lifetime movie network caliber. Where was the controversy? It was tepid
Your review was really good. I am sorry to say but i must say you look so nice while reviewing movies in opened hair.
I mostly agree with your assessment, though I apparently didn't find it quite as boring as you did. I felt rather engaged the whole time, though it was average film making at best. I just hope this leads to more productions outside the Hollywood system getting some attention and talent working on them.
Second! New subscriber since last month, love your reviews - really surprised you're reviewing this one, even though it has done so well at the box office.
While I agree that a great, lasting movie will take heavy subject matter and make it memorable and engaging (The Killing Fields comes to mind) a reasonably good and financially successful movie might be enough to get people talking. I think that's what the filmmakers ultimately care about. Maybe that's to the film's artistic detriment but I don't see Martin Scorsese, Christopher Nolan, Greta Gerwig, Yorgos Lanthimos or any other artistic titan lining up to do a movie about child sex trafficking. In the end, this subject matter doesn't really need art for people to care about it. It just needs someone to ask the first question: "What can you do about it?"
The appreciations in art vary according to the perspectives, from the optics of experts and connoisseurs, to the simple and direct opinions of common people. Both appreciations are genuinely valid, although probably divergent. Go see SoF!
Maggie Shoeonhead review of sound of freedom was funny she was dissapointed that the media sold this movie as a pizzagate movie and she liked the movie but called out the media for burying the movie
you call that a review? you think she's a critic or something?
@@nalday2534everyone's a critic
@@XavierGage elaborate
Interesting review.
Makes me harken back to my gut responses in the 1970s, to bad songwriting that grabbed onto a great topic or theme, and then wrote wretchedly about it, thinking the topic or theme itself would carry the day.
So with Sound of Freedom. As if millions of viewers and potential viewers will show up and be there to celebrate the mere fact that abused children will always proudly carry a flag toward a justice we (most of us) want.
What you say about the kind of dimensional myopia surrounding the lead character.
One part of that particularly bothered me, just because of its obviously shallow treatment.
When he had to "pretend" to be over there on the dark side (in order to facilitate the sting.)
That is one major wrestling of the human soul - like a Kapo in a German concentration camp, like one of Pol Pot's minions, executing fellow country persons, and so many more examples of this that have existed historically. These are not hired extras. These are (and were) real people. And for the viewer, reader, historian, always comes the question: going forward in the future - are we capable of these things now? Of course we are.
And there is the kick in the gut.
This entire impact was almost devoid from the movie.
One more observation.
The reality of abused children, enslaved children, drives an emotional engine right on through the film. That alone will engage many viewers. Which is fine, considering the purpose of the movie - to raise an awareness and consciousness of a real thing, that needs to be addressed.
I found it quite impactful - that there is more slavery in the world today than ever existed historically, and certainly in certain times, eras, that are studied to death not because it is slavery, but because of who was enslaved.
In a time when this word captures such political empowerment, it is a curious thing that so much slavery gathers so little notice - as if those slaves don't matter.
All this being said, this film gathers currency because of its purpose to inform, enlighten, and focus on a particular subject. Much less so, because it is actually a good movie.
It could have been. But that would have been a very different film. Think of an emotional roller coaster that has an entire audience wrung out like a dishrag - all the way through.
And just this: not because the movie is graphic. I agree, that graphic depiction was never necessary. Which in itself, could be one of the most important messages the film delivers.
I found SOF very well made and emotionally compelling - the director, Alejandro Monteverde, hardly an amateur, is very skilled (won TFF's top prize for his first film, Bella). I don't think that for me it would have been more effective as "an emotional roller coaster that has an entire audience wrung out like a dishrag - all the way through, " as you stated. I would tend to see that more as a generic action/thriller rather than something that gains verisimilitude through the weight of its more reality-based tone. As for the lead character having to pretend to be on the dark side in order to facilitate the sting, which you said bothered you, that was a very accurate reenactment of what Tim Ballard did by necessity - as was most of the film, including the boy who gave Ballard a pendant (he had been given by his enslaved sister) that bore the Spanish version of Ballard's first name - a bit of real life synchronicity. I definitely agree the film gains emotional currency by the gravitas of the subject - something that if it was dealing with international espionage, for example (a favorite subject of action/thrillers) would have not been as compelling. Strange, that with such a focus these days on the tragedy and outrage of slavery in the past, that the very real slavery of today is something many people now seem to want to deny, or politicize out of some knee-jerk cultural tribalism. This movie has gripped people because it possesses what is lacking in much of society today, a genuine commitment to an ideal and a moral compass. The film isn't overtly Christian but it is spiritual in its focus. Perhaps much of the conflict we currently see, acted out on social media, MSM and pretty much everywhere, is a clash between a materialist and a spiritual worldview.
Well for such dark subject matter it was handled well without showing kids getting raped. It insuates what happened and the message is clear. Overall the movie feels like a docudrama and genuine. Almost like a police procedural how they setup the sting operation. It's not an action film like taken with Liam Neeson kicking butt but it's realistic. In the end when Tim pulls a Rambo hiding in darkness to take out the baddie he says in an interview he never actually killed the guy. That was for dramatic purposes to make him more a hero than he is.
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes, I found that tone to be both respectful and effective. I also thought all of the performances were genuine and, as a result, far more moving than if they had been showy.
The main character was so boring because they really cared about portraying him great than putting a story first. I felt like You Were Never Really Here did this subject matter a lot better.
I think this movie was more than entertainment but something that is important.
Agree. This film is very straight forward. No character development. You can see it in the main character eyes the hatred he has for child traffickers
It's a simple story but effective as a police procedural. There's no Liam Neeson kicking butt action like in taken but that makes it more authentic although taken was more thrilling.
idk if the director knows this but child trafficking is a much more complicated issue than a screaming girl being kidnapped out of nowhere. also, it would've been far more interesting if he hadn't turned the real victims into kids to prop himself up
What she said / I tried to watch this film but bailed at the scene where they had set up some sort of a "sting" operation on an island where as I recall they were luring in pedaphiles to a pedaphile "resort" of some sort. I just couldn't take the heavy handed amateurish quality of the film making and left feeling that it was so disappinting to see a subject of such importance handled so poorly. Too bad. I've seem many films that at least touch on the subject that to me seem to be imbued with far less "heart" that are made so much better. One could say that this is simply about lack of budget but in the right hands I think a far better film, a film the subject more than warrants could have in the right hands been made . . . . All that said IMO I doubt that had the film been "better" made it would make any real difference regarding the subject matter anyways . . . . Anyone want popcorn ?
I was reminded of the Netflix show Mindhunter in some regards although that series is a far superior piece of work. By that I mean there is a valid and important theme here of walking that line "between light and dark" as you put it. The protagonist is too much of a blank vehicle here I agree, by design no doubt but unconvincing for me. Not a great movie any more than the ridiculous claims that it's a trojan horse for QAnon. The movie has done extraordinarily well nonetheless.
Just as a matter of interest did you take the trouble to look at the art hanging on Comet Ping Pong's walls.
"But is it a good movie on its own merits?" seems to be the last question asked for films that get politicized.
Would love a video on your thoughts of Tokyo Drifter
Well, at least you finally got around to reviewing this film which has been ostracized for political reasons (50 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes) - I didn't find it political at all - human sex trafficking never use to be a partisan issue (calling it propaganda is absurd). I, and everyone I know, found the film extremely powerful - this includes people of all political affiliations (I'm a lifelong Dem). But I'm glad that you were finally willing to walk through the minefield of reviewing it.
I think the reason why people are saying it’s political is because of the Tim Ballard and the anti-trafficking organization that he has. If you read enough articles you can see it
@@nootnoot3454 I've read them all - or at least a very large portion of them. As is typical, many of them are simply partisan smears - you know, like RFK jr is an anti-Semite. A few years ago 60 minutes and the MSM were calling Ballard a hero for some of the very same actions that are depicted in this film. Its pathetic that people are swallowing this b.s. He and his organization, and others like it, are definitely heroic.
I agree that it's refreshing to see an actual review of the movie on its merits as a movie, but it's also ignorant not to point out that the subject of the film is a noted partisan grifter who is notable for lying and exaggerating his anti-child trafficking bonafides (he does next to nothing to combat child-trafficking in actuality), and Jim Caviezel the lead (who is a solid actor, regardless) is a far-right extremist who thinks the Democrats traffic and harvest children for their adrenochrome, and is very public about his extremist beliefs. I thought the movie was decent, but it's really negligent not to call out agitprop. You can review the art on its merits and still point out what it actually is!
@@Galumpa22 Sorry, but Ballard isn't a grifter, he's put his life on the line to save the lives of children and adults who've been sold into bondage. I wish I could say that I've done anything in my life that even approaches that kind of service and sacrifice.
I saw this movie months ago and yes I’m just like you with your opinion. I don’t understand the controversy about this movie. I thought it’s a good movie but it does have flaws with the storytelling and lack of character development. I will say this: Sound of Freedom made me sick to my stomach with the issues about the human trafficking. Jim Cazevil gave a good performance as Tim Ballard.
As someone who worked for two decades with abused and exploited and trafficked and street-involved kids, I usually welcome any piece of art or entertainment that shines a light on such things. And I don't generally care who is shining that light. _Taxi Driver_ is one of my favourite films (because it's morally nuanced and shaded with grey) and others have mentioned _You Were Never Really Here_ , which is also excellent. There's also _Lilya 4-Ever_ and _The Girl Next Door_ , two quite different approaches but both harrowing and based in actual reality, however much they're stylized. And for movies that deal with the ugly hysteria that can surround this topic, there's 2012's _The Hunt_ and many more I could name.
But back to that flashlight beam: you can read the novels of the late lawyer and crime writer Andrew Vachss, and they sometimes verge on a type of vigilantism that would have made Charles Bronson blush, yet they're darkly brilliant, and I have no idea what his politics were; all I care about is that he lived and breathed that dark and ugly world for decades and took on the forces that sustain it with courage and tenacity. But something I dislike a lot is when people jump on bandwagons and pretend to care about causes they've ignored until now, targeting the wrong "bad guys," enacting their political agendas without care or concern for the realities and generally stumbling around, muddying the waters, and often making things worse for the young people they claim such concern for. If you suddenly care about the issue, great. If your concern is genuine, maybe educate yourself by researching the realities of sex trafficking and commercial sexual exploitation of children and donate to the likes of Save the Children, ECPAT International, Shared Hope International, or, here in Canada, The Canadian Centre for Child Protection, and many other organizations, NGOs, nonprofits, etc. from around the globe.
I haven't seen _Sound of Freedom_ , and because of its associations with the far-right, I wasn't planning to, but I respect your reviews here, @deepfocuslens, so I'll give it a watch and try hard not to allow my disgust at this wave of faux concern for exploited children that's been emanating from the political right to get in the way of an objective response. We used to meet with right-leaning community stakeholders-law enforcement, conservative politicians, probation officers, etc.-and it was our job to advocate for the kids who were being exploited under the noses of these same people, yet they paid lip service at best and more often than not didn't lift a finger to stop what was happening in their communities. The right was never on board, and I just find it odd that they're only now doing so after some weird conspiracy theorists started accusing Democrats and Hollywood of committing these acts (I'm Canadian, so I don't have a dog in that fight, but I can detect agenda-driven hypocrisy when I see it). The reality is far less cartoonish and more complex than these conspiracy theories paint them, and if anything, it's authoritarian types and those who oppose diversity and compassion who are perpetrating these crimes or allowing them to continue.
Because of it's associations with the far right? I've not seen neo nazis promote this film? Anyone not left wing must therefore be "far" right. The media, government, entertainment industry and social media platforms push left wing ideologies/agendas whilst censoring the truth. Anyone who can't see that is blind.
So, in summation, you're a partisan leftist that lets other people do your thinking for you. At least you admit you're a leftist hack.
p.s. I didn't read your entire novelette.
With your real concern for the issue you really should see the film for yourself. I didn't see anything political, whatsoever, about it. It was emotionally moving and compelling to watch. If shining a light on child sex-trafficking is now somehow a right wing talking point then there's very little hope for raising awareness of it and confronting the problem. This should not be a partisan issue - to me that's really perverse to paint it that way.
@@92ninersboy I probably will give it watch as I respect Maggie's reviews. But you've misread my comment. Nowhere have I said that "shining a light on child sex-trafficking is a right-wing talking point"; if anything, I'm saying the very opposite, and asking where those folks were when we were trying to address this issue literally decades ago. I welcome anyone who is genuinely concerned about the issue, of course, but I can't countenance faux agendas, which the far political right has brought to this discussion elsewhere, via the likes of 8Chan and QAnon and that kind of lunatic fringe. They've merely hitched their toxic wagon (filled with their usual antisemitism and other assorted bigotries) to something no one can ostensibly argue with-child sex trafficking-and it's utterly disingenuous, pure lip-service. So while I'm suspicious of this movie's motives, I respect Maggie's views enough to give it a chance.
They do all of this Alex Jones, QANON theater to distract from what their founders and funders like Fabian Marta do themselves...
This was a solid review. I think both extreme sides on this are equally annoying. The side that calls it Right-Wing propaganda and the side that says if you don't love this movie then you don't think child trafficking is a serious issue (or worse).
As a movie I honestly thought it was just OK. I guess both sides won't like me, the Left because I watched it and the Right because I did watch it and didn't love it.
You were never really here with Joaquin Phoenix is a great movie about trafficking.
You said a lot of words but there wasn't much of an actual objective critique here. You basically said "I didn't really feel much" five different ways, which is fine, but doesn't make for a particularly good review.
an awesome movie. And being made in the world we live in now was brave. Of course they don't want this movie to get out to the masses. And knowing that Disney scrapped this years ago and didn't want to release it tells a lot about Disney and our morals going down the shitter
The film's star is a member of a church that is also one of the biggest grooming organisations in the world. Try harder.
A good critic can separate the message from the execution. We basically all agree that s trafficking is one of the most vile and disgusting thing ever, on the other hand SOF is still a movie and should be considered as such, analyzing all cinema elements like screenplay, photography, acting, direction, etcetera. Those are two totally different topics, following the logic "I agree with the message=it's a good movie" is profoundly wrong. You can have horrible movies about the Holocaust, that doesn't mean that the Holocaust ain't terrible and you can absolutely despise those actions. Unfortunately in this time and period people tend to like or dislike something based on the political party pushing that specific "product", instead of analyzing it from an artistic perspective.
You need to watch some better movies if you think this was “awesome and brave”
The problem with dealing with the very real subject of human trafficking is that the subject has never been taken seriously. It has been used as propaganda, weaponized for some purpose, but a purpose that has little to do with the subject and the victims of human trafficking. There is only movie I can think of that made a serious and excellent effort to deal with an aspect of human trafficking is Beasts of No Nation, a dramatic depiction of the lives of child soldiers.
Agreed
The same people screeching in support of this movie ignore this happening daily here in the States in conservative, CHRISTIAN cults...
The quality of this film is abysmal. The subject matter important, however this story has been told hundreds of times in Hollywood films…smuggling immigrants, or trafficking kids has been a subject for the last 25 years…
Sorry I disagree. The filmaker was on point in respecting the audience's imagination and intelligence. So refreshing to see a film where not everything is explicitly spelled and acted out.
And disagreeing is 100% fair and fine. I love Maggies reviews and I concur with them in the vast majority...But OBVIOUSLY we cannot agree with every single film. The Northman was a master piece and she didn't really cared about it. And she has like films I despised. Everything is cool. Which makes me think what was her mood and disposition hen watching this film, she went because of the morbid curiosity and controversial aspects and left disappointed because the film itself did not deliver any expectations that would justify the "controversial" aspect? What if she had gone to watch it blindly, without knowing any controversy around it?
@@mikejunior211 We are spoil by the Hollywood elite filmmakers. Why does every film has to have shocking/ graphic scenes to be a good movie. I think they just did it respectfully and still convey the the dark theme and the seriousness of what's going on across our southern border.
The problem for me is that the film claims to be a true story and markets itself as a film for people to take uncritically, and the simple truth is that the organization depicted in the film is actually really dangerous. They have a pedophilia problem, they perform sting operations which are ineffective at dealing with the problem AND result in MORE children being trafficked, and most egregiously, they exploit the issue for money and their own hero complexes. So for me, those problems transcend the argument that we can just treat it as art and instead it becomes a work that is, at best, well intentioned, and at worst, an actively dangerous piece of propaganda.
I think it's absolutely interesting to watch and analyze films like Triumph of the Will and The Birth of a Nation through a modern, critical lens at the way it depicts its subject matter and what the intent is, specifically because those subjects have far less mainstream power, but when it's an active problem that the world is still facing and will be facing for the foreseeable future, I don't think Sound of Freedom should have been made about this organization, and instead should have been made about the actual heroes who do the boring, day-to-day work that actually results in saving the lives of kids.
thank you
also, these people ignore this happening daily here in the States in conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults...
We’re entitled to our own views but just about everything you say this film doesn’t have it does lol. The main character is capable of losing his career, all of his money and possibly his family. He does become friends with characters along the way aka “Batman” and what other layers do you need? It’s a docudrama about child trafficking. But also a faith based film. I think the point of the film was to provide awareness to something very dark that continues to be hidden in plain sight.
That's nice.
Tell me - are you so concerned about this occurring DAILY here in the States, in the following conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults:
FLDS, Mormons, Southern Baptists, Amish, La Luz del Mundo, Branch Dravidians, Children of God, Catholic Church...
@@CEWIII9873 yes I am. Are you? This my issue with all the negative feedback. Why is there any? There’s only such much we can do. You see it took till Tim created that operation and had the bust that congress made it where homeland can work outside of the US.
Great perspective
I appreciate the effort you put into trying to be fair and balanced in your reviews, but your conservative bias really comes through here. just sayin'.
@snortworld What conservative bias? When Trump was elected she was taking part in anti-Trump marches. She lamented at the time in her videos what a politically turbulent time 2016 was because of the orange turd in office.
Who is your favourite movie critic. I find Roger Ebert or his legacy staff to be very annoying and overly critical at times and he has a tendency to summarise the whole movie, almost a spoiler.
A movie about child sex trafficking wasnt entertaining to you and you compared it to barbie. K
Way to miss the point. Did you actually listen to anything she said?
Please review “talk to me” if you have the time or past lives
YOUR PRESENTATION AND CHANNEL IS CONTRIVED AND PRETENTIOUS **AT BEST** GIVE IT UP
And your caps lock is broken and you sound like an angry (and semiliterate) old goon 🤣
Why do you say that? She's genuine and tells it like it is. Look at Chris Stuckmann review and the guy basically praises everything and he even admits it cause he's a film producer now. Jeremy is pretty direct but he softens his criticism. Then there's Dan's review who is one of the few who gives a score and is very honest but we got into a disagreement so I banned him. There's plenty of reviews and channels so no shortage of choice.
Thanks for a reasonable critique. The politics are frustrating. Ultra-left and ultra-right just spew spin, and it's nice to hear a balanced, film orientated review. I will go to it when it plays, but I won't expect a cinematic masterpiece.
The anti SOF post about this film makes it seem that those commentors are the actual child traffickers lowkey telling us supporters, What are we gonna do about it then? Only the guilty would call people Qanon even though, it sheds light on a real world tragedy and whom maybe involved.
These people sell their souls to become rich and famous. She's made her bed with the jackals, may she get their fleas.
@@DV80s Have you noticed the haters aren't interacting with my comment at all? Their silence, is heavy in guilt.
I don't know
How many care packages have you made for your pals Warren Jeffs and Josh Duggar?
@@listentologic I just did, Trumptard
@@listentologic"silence is guilt," eh?
Tell me, how "silent" are you about this occurring DAILY here in the States in the following conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults:
FLDS, Mormons, Branch Dravidians, Southern Baptists, Amish, Basic Life Principles, La Luz del Mundo, Children of God, Catholic Church?
Absolutely agree with all your criticism of the artistic aspects of the film. However the fact that as you pointed out this film 'ruffles some feathers' is very disconcerting to me. Who in their right mind could oppose a true story about rescuing the lives of children victims of sexual slavery is beyond me.
I found that very surprising and worrisome myself. I did enjoyed the film very much on their own merits. I watched it twice before I was even aware of any political controversy.
I don't know, were your "feathers ruffled" when they convicted your friends and colleagues Warren Jeffs and Josh Duggar?
@@mikejunior211 I see you have posted a lot in support of this movie.
Tell me, how many of Fabian Marta's adrenochrome parties did you attend?
How many care packages have you sent to your pals Warren Jeffs and Josh Duggar?
@@CEWIII9873 How are they my friends and what's your point exactly? You are an idiot if you think that if one type of child abuse is addressed it automatically means you only care about that one type and somehow support all the other types. They are all wrong and despicable if you want me spell it out for you.
Thank you so much for reviewing this film. I've been following since 2018 and I always enjoy your analytical reviews. Obviously i will not always concur but I value your perspective and honesty. Same way as I disagree with you wholeheartedly about "The Northman" which you didn't particularly care about too much. I find myself in same territory with this one.
I watched "Sound of Freedom" twice July 3rd and July 5th before I even heard of the "controversy" surrounding it. I loved the film in every single aspect, score, cinematography, sound design, acting across the board. Also it's been by far the most entertainment film I watched this year over The Flash, Oppenheimer, Transformers and on par with MI7... I have recommended "Sound of Freedom" to five different people, all of them have loved it. Yes, I know, art appreciation is in the eye of the beholder. Same way as I think The Northman is a masterpiece, the film was not nominated and a few reviewers disliked it. It gets me thinking when you recommend a film to someone so sure he/she will enjoy it and the person does not share your opinion, you feel a little embarrassed and thinking that maybe your standards are too low, or maybe the person you recommended to has standards set too high. Very important to know who are you recommending a piece of entertainment to.
I loved how technical you get when you judge a film and that is a reason why I love your reviews so much. However after watching this film three times and particularly being a big admirer of Alejandro Monteverde prior works, specially "Little Boy," which I would love to know your opinion about it, I cannot identify any incompetence in the direction...Yes, I agree that maybe the film could benefit of a more experienced editor, because it has a few pacing flaws, but not enough in my perspective to notch it too many points. To me is a solid 9/10. Thanks again for giving the film a fair shot.
Taken, with Liam Neeson, did a much better job with this subject matter and it was by no means a great movie. Sound of Freedom is like a Hallmark Lifetime movie for conspiracy theorists.
Did you watch the film?
@@mikejunior211 I saw the first 15 minutes or so. Unless the film does a hard pivot into action/comedy (which would be great) and all the trailers and promotional material is horribly misleading, that was enough to know where things were going. I was bored with what I saw.
It's not Kirk Cameron Saves Christmas level of bad, but it's obvious that the film was targeted at fundamentalist Christian types, of which I am not. That's fine. They're allowed to make movies too.
@@thebigvlad You saw the first 15 minutes of a 140 minutes film...You are an authority then 😄. Also the first 20 minutes of the film are mostly spoken in Spanish. Maybe you are one of those people who hate reading subtitles and hence you got bored...🤣. Since Spanish is my first language I was hooked with those first 20 minutes.
Not sure what you mean about Christian Fundamentalist. I knew Angel studio produced The Chosen so I was expecting a very heavy and on the nose Christian film...It was not, it felt very much main stream, which is not surprising since it was originally produced by 20th Century Fox... And yes I agree with your assessment about Cameron's films... Those are very unsubtle, lecturing Christian movies.
@@mikejunior211Nope I'm not an "authority" whatever that is. I just got bored. When you have D grade one-liners like "God's children are not for sale" shown in the trailer, I've seen the rest of the movie without seeing the rest of the movie. The "I have a particular set of skills" speech from Taken is much more effective.
And no, it's not as preachy as other Christian movies but it is clear that the target audience is Christian fundamentalists, who actively work to make child exploitation easier, which I one reason I refuse to pay to see the film (I had to bootleg it).
It is also a bad sign that the film is being heavily promoted by qanon types who think there is some globalist, Jewish conspiracy to kidnap and eat children. They call this movie a "wake up call" as if people already don't know that sex trafficking is a thing, then go back to aiding in the exploitation of children. These people are the worst of the worst. So, if I ever do watch the whole film, I sure as hell am not going to pay for it.
It's not a "fun" movie and I find that to be the "point" of it. This subject matter is just not going to be "entertaining" or "fun". There is no way you can begin to talk about child sex trafficking in a way that is "entertaining".
Even if the movie-making is basic, the fact that its starting a conversation around a subject matter that isn't talked about enough in mainstream is why the movie works. I didn't find it boring and found the movie to be impactful. It doesn't really matter to me whether the movie fails as art or whatever since the topic it covers is greater and means more to me and I imagine it's resonating with people for that very reason.
Hmm...
Sounds like you got all up in your feelings about this.
Tell me, did you get this passionate when Fabian Marta, a founder and creator of this movie, was arrested participating in the very activity depicted in the film, or were you too busy making care packages for your pals Warren Jeffs and Josh Duggar?
Lynne Ramsay did it better.
I thought the movie was a bit over done and artistically retarded and emotionally manipulative
But I'm sure you wet your pants over every stupid new superhero movie.
The movie subject matter is powerful, but the execution was boring and the music put me to sleep.
I'm more interested in WHY "Hollywood" is trying soo hard to suppress this Film, if Sound of Freedom came out on it's supposed original release date of 2015, i don't think there would even be so much fuss around it, would just be one of the many average movies that come out every year. that said, the subject matter this film is dealing with is very REAL.
I think we all know why...Harvey Weinstein and Roman Polansky rings a bell? They are only the tip of the iceberg.
@@mikejunior211 The film's star actor is a member of the grooming organisation that calls itself the Catholic Church. One of the film's producer's has been arrested for child kidnapping. Funny old world we live in...
@@M.H.I.A.F.T. BOGUS CLAIM DEBUNKED. Fabian Marta is NOT a film producer . He is one out of 6,778 investors averaging $500 each through Crowd Funding. He is not related to film production at all...But you swallowed the lies I see... ha ha ha.
Also an Update Marta is a Landlord and he was arrested for Obstruction of Justice and accessory of a Kidnapping. The Kidnapping in mention is his Tenant (A woman) moving her kids out of the state of Illinois without her partner consent. This was a custody dispute that Marta was stupidly involved in by denying police officers getting access to the property for arresting the woman and the return of both 12 and 13 year old kids back the lawful other parent.
Not that you care a bit about the truth, you only wanted to smear a film based on lies and disingenuous and mean spirited claims by the complicit MSM.
@@Artemise7799-cg8pg Relax, he's just doing what gullible pawns do.
@@M.H.I.A.F.T. I'm curious - have you seen Sound Of Freedom?
Art is a critique of reality. Does it "distort" or take different points of view?
distort was definitely the wrong word to use. Thought that in the edit. Oh well.
@@deepfocuslens Perhaps distinction should be made between "art" and "entertainment".
Can someone explain the outrage to me? Outside of republican = bad. I don’t really understand why this is so controversial
i haven't been keeping up but from what I've heard, the filmmakers are qanon users or something idk but the main actor himself has said some stupid shit. it feels like he's weaponising the issue of child trafficking to peddle his bigotry against marginalised communities and the fact that the director changed alot of the real life details to make this movie isn't helping his case either
It's controversial because the media says so. How dare you question it? Now go back to sleep sheep. Ignore the fact that Hollywood often times uses the casting couch to get young actors.
Liberals are the same people that want drag shows in schools and support adults naked in the streets for pride parades. I guess this movie makes them nervous.
@@yidavv Oh no! Someone called me a Qtard. Whatever shall I do? My life is ruined. I will now kill myself. LOL. What is this? Junior high?
@@yidavv There was nothing fake about what nerdychristian said. BOZO 🤡
Agree with all your critiques. I got roped into seeing it by my conspiracy theory obsessed uncles and it is decent. I like the lead actor a lot from his role in Persons of Interest but this movie was too dull and poorly paced. The music as you said was also far too overbearing.
You should ask your "conspiracy theory obsessed uncle" what he does to combat this activity occurring daily here in the States, in conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults?
I definitely want to watch it, but none of my cinema theaters have it and the streaming apps haven't bought it either.
There is one thing though. The movie is about Tim Ballard and according to some folks who claim to have done lots of research there are a lot of lies in this movie and basically it's making Tim out to be a hero, when he apparently isn't at all.
But first I'll watch it, somehow, after that comes research I guess.
Yes, I'm prepared to be open minded about this, but I saw an interview with Ballard where in the first minute he was slagging off teachers for introducing kids to pornography. His story may be completely true, but those opening remarks have planted the seeds of doubt.
@tonybennett4159 FYI: Tim and his wife Katherine have nine children, including two children they adopted, who Tim helped rescue from traffickers.
@@signposts6189 That's why it's key to do research, always. People nowadays too easily believe something and immediately condemn the individual without any research. I've also seen folks shit on Jim Caviezel, calling him all kinds of things. Whatever the case may be, spreading awareness of this is always a good thing.
@@tonybennett4159 I think it does depend on what age the kids are. Because I saw a video the other day that showed what kind of material is being shown to very, very young children and I can't condone any of that. That was all kinds of messed up.
@@signposts6189 that's nice
Did they adopt these children from Fabian Marta, one of the funders and creators of this film who was arrested for participating in the activity depicted in the film?
Q Anon John wick for divorced bible belt dads
Correct
Nothing QAnon about the film BOZO 🤡
Ha!
Excellent description
I agree that as a film and a piece of storytelling, it is lacking. But the fact that it has successfully raised wider awareness of its horrifying subject matter is noble. For that reason alone, it should be seen. And no, it's not "propaganda."
Well the concept of propaganda is not necessarily "fake information" It is "I'm using this film for the purpose of.." In the case of Greta Gerwig's Barbie the film is propagandistic and it doesn't necessarily tries to sell a lie.
Yes it's propaganda. If you do some research on Ballard and the organization presented in the film, you'll find a lot of troubling information, including pedophilia within the organization (including financiers of the film who are now under arrest), actions which increase the risk of child trafficking, actually ENGAGING in child trafficking as a way of "fighting" it, and ultimately exploiting the issue in order to present themselves as heroes and gain money. The film is essentially damage control designed to paint them in the best possible light. If people watched it and became more aware of the prevalence of child sex trafficking worldwide, then that's great, but they also probably walked away thinking that Ballard and his team are the ones that are doing the real work, and not the FBI.
The real heroes are people who do the boring day-to-day work behind computer screens analyzing videos that nobody on the planet should ever see and matching them with leads around the world. Ballard and Co are just a bunch of idiots who insert themselves into situations they don't belong, improve nothing (and in fact put more children at risk), and then profit off it. They are scum. This is propaganda disguised as docu-fiction
I like that you tore down this GQP propaganda
LOL, turn off The View
I bet you haven't even seen this movie yourself. Yet you call it propaganda.
@@nerychristian it’s propaganda because ppl like you made it that way
@@BishopWalters12 LOL cry more 😭👌
To the morons saying this movie is not propaganda just listen to Jim Caviezel talking on interviews, the guy is a lunatic.
I thought the film you reviewed would be great probably written and directed by Schrader.
When you get a chance could you review the film you saw?
He already did this kinda with Hardcore
Films like hardcore or taxi driver were exactly what the production didn't want to make with SOF. They wanted a pg13 movie with the largest audience possible. The guy behind the project, Tim Ballard, also said that he didn't want graphic material on it, due to potential p getting aroused by the movie. If you make movies like the French cuties you know for a fact that part of the audience is there because they "like" the content. So, not showing too much was their specific artistic choice due to the mentioned above problem.
we have four generations living together. some like living in anxiety. some like greatness. some like it crazy and some dont now what they like. options.
of course you live with all of those people
You are Mexican
What is your point?
Good on ye Maggie, using your intellect, intuition, empathy and honesty to tell it like it is, whatever else the zeitgeist and its delight in the hyperbolic might say.
It's a triple feature. Sound of Barbenheimer.
very suspicious of anyone rallying under the cry of 'think of the chillldreennn', and the call of people involved in the film for it to spearhead some kind of 'movement' - from what I've seen in the trailer, it's mediocre film-making at best, looked like an episode of 24 or something
INB4 SOOO YOU HATE CHIDREENN
So you haven't even seen the movie, but you are calling it mediocre? Sounds like a typical Liberal. Shut out new ideas before you've even had a chance to listen to them.
This is the correct take.
@@nerychristian is it okay for us to label you as opposite of liberals then based on your behaviour?
@@nalday2534 Yes, of course. You can label me as a free thinking man
@@nerychristian but you won't change your toxic methods and be kinder to people with nuanced approaches? amazing. beyond parody
This review shows why you’re seriously the best film critic on UA-cam
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There's not much entertainment in "Sound of Freedom," but it is an important story, well-told.
I disagree. This has been the most cinematic and entertainment experience I had all year, over MI7 The Flash, Transformers and Oppenheimer, which are all the films I have watched this year. But of course art is in the ye of the beholder.
"Sound of Freedom" is excellent and impactful. I cried convulsively.
It's just not entertaining to me; it's devastating.
@@droidx1191 I understand that. Maybe I like movies that make me cry... I have watched this film three times. The second time allowed me to pay more attention in many details such as cinematography, acting and sound design..and knowing the story I was able to find enjoyment in the plot. Also big fan of Ale Monteverde...Try watching "Little Boy," which is my favorite of his works.... Can't wait to watch "Cabrini".
@@droidx1191 That's nice.
Do you "cry convulsively" about this occurring DAILY here in the States, in the following conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults:
FLDS, Mormons, Southern Baptists, Basic Life Principles, La Luz del Mundo, Children of God, Catholic Church...
When I first heard of the movie doing well I just assumed it was one of those Indy faith movie similar to god is not dead. The word of mouth advertising of the movie turned me off. It’s pretty much advertise as the movie the left doesn’t want you to see. The movie could have had a better Cinderella story if you consider the fact the hat two Disney movie flopped this month.
The reality of the movie is disconnected from the way the corporate press wants to characterize it. Its not political and its not religious - its a compelling and powerful depiction of a real tragedy that needs to have a light shined on rather than being suppressed.
Honest review, good one
your perspective is a breath of fresh air. thank you
Hi thank you for being unbiased on the critique of the film.
fair review. love that you gave an objective analysis even though it sounds like you wanted this to be great.
I just want to add that this movie is very much based on Tim Ballard's real life experiences, and they actually didn't stray too far from the truth. so it's possible that's limited their creative freedom.
Tim Ballard was a desk jockey, and this movie is about as truthful as the Flamin Hot or Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.
Regardless, this movie is a distraction from what the creators like Fabian Marta of this movie do themselves.
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2:14 The dahmer show is pretty messed up if you think about it.
The victims families are still alive and not that old. It's not like the dahmer killings were in the 40s and 50s. The families also had no say with the show. Majority of them wished the show wasnt made. Because of studios and corporations cashing in on a tragedy. Imagine if it you lost a son to dahmer and see advertisements everywhere about your son's killer.
sounds tasty!
i just really wish that making a film like this one, you keep the psychoanalytical perspective. that - for me, is that its NOT (as hard as that may sound) about saving individual children, but rather ALL OF OUR humanity. its not about stopping trafficking, its about starting humane interaction, relationships and systems. you might argue humanity and systems, thats a contradiction. now, isnt that way more interesting than child trafficking?!
reminds me of "traffic"... where they wasted combating the supply side for most of the movie until finally arriving at the demand side and not even fully exploring that. sisyphos.
meh
people here in the States could intervene in this activity occurring every day in conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults, but instead they would rather screech about conspiracies when Josh Duggar gets locked up.
please review talk to me.
I liked your review and I know your review movies based on what you feel are important criteria. I think this movie is totally focused on a situation that is emotional motivated with a real political and humanitarian purpose and that is why it doesn't fit the normal narrative that you judge a movie. I think it is a call to action to make people aware there is a terrible wrong that needs to be stopped as the abuse of children is an intolerable thought. It is too bad that someone with your insight could not have been involved in how this movie was created because then it would be more of an impact.
You sound really passionate about this issue.
Tell me, what have YOU done about this occurring daily here in the States in the following conservative, CHRISTIAN, cults:
FLDS, Mormons, Amish, Southern Baptists, Basic Life Principles, Children of God, Catholic Church...
I have researched the subject of slavery for many years to assess what there is currently going on worldwide to see where it is occurring and who are the victims. I have found there are organizations that have been tracking various forms of slavery including child trafficking offering statistics based on Race, Gender, Age, Nationality etc. Since seeing the movie "Sound of Freedom" I have come to the realization that this is more widespread than I thought, and the perpetrators are not just your everyday perverts they are people classified as the Elites. Now that more movies stars are coming out about Hollywood Elites are also involved and came out against this movie, they are hiding their involvement. Hollywood condones these criminal behaviors evidenced by the movies they make, and star in almost glorifying it. I do my best to support those that would speak out and unmask those involved and offer my comments as well. I am still trying to figure a way to be more directly involved in combating this assault on our children without taking away involvement in a couple of other causes I am more involved in i.e Veterans, and Suicide Prevention.@@CEWIII9873
You deserve double or triple your subscriber numbers. Great review.
Great review, all excellent points. The movie is a missed opportunity.
One horribly ultra weird movie. Caviezel's hair oh my God so weird and he's acting!?!? Horrible. That whisper into the pedophile's ears is just mind boggling. What?!?!?! "never trust a pedophile!?" whatttt!?!?!? And then he's with 6 or 7 sons and daughters hahaha it can't get any worse. Please Caviezel explain yourself lol. Man this world is just lost to demons. Easily the very worst movie of the year.
Well said
I don't have a problem with someone watching the movie and not liking it but it's ridiculous that people who are so tribal won't even watch the movie and call it propaganda. Barbie with the feminist stuff is way more heavy handed and preachy compared to this movie.
You want attention so bad lol 😂
@@redcomet0079 You still crying over this movie?
@@BishopWalters12 👈 wants attention
@@redcomet0079 Your mommy is giving you too much internet time, little buddy.
@@BishopWalters12 👈 held back 🤤
I liked the movie, though it has a minimalist style that makes it noirish and therefore unrealistic. Noir is not real life. But I want to point out something else: I'm a liberal myself, but the left has been totally unfair to this movie, labeling a QAnon movie. It's not at all. Jim Caviezel could be Q-friendly, but the filmmakers aren't. The left has accused SOF of astroturfing in the form of buying seats to create the illusion of sold out shows. There's even some videos that serve as supposed evidence, which I believe are faked. The film has grossed $149m so far, and there's checks and balances in place to prevent numbers bloating, so the numbers are accurate. No company has $149m in spare change to buy empty seats, especially given the film has a smaller, independent distributor. Basically, the left is engaging in baseless conspiracy theories like the right usually does.
meh
my problem is these very same people ignore what people like Josh Duggar and Warren Jeffs do daily here in the States...
I'm aware of the leading actor's background but I want to see this film. I find the subject matter interesting and I'd like to judge the movie on its own merits. I'm glad you've reviewed it. Back to it.😊
You definitely are taking the right approach to judge it for yourself - maybe you'll find it as moving and compelling as I did.
Enjoy the reviews, always nice to have many different opinions on movies. We are all different and see things in different ways, because after all we are differnet people. But you hit a nerve with a comment about one of the charactors wives being an "Army wife". My late wife was an Army wife and she was not in the backround. During my five deployments, training exercises, and being stationed where my family couldn't go, she didi it all. Fours sons to feed, get to school, pay the bills, get them to after school activities/friends houses, clean the house, etc. ( my first deployment all four sons were under the age of 13 ) Yes there are single parents that do this all the time, but the one thing that is different is she had to deal with the fact that any day while I was deployed or training she could get a knock on the door, the knock telling her I had died in combat. That she would be the one that would have to explain to my sons that Dad isn't coming home. Just some food for thought.
I don't she's criticizing army wives just the lack of characterization this one received.
That's nice
Did you ever wonder why she got pregnant with "your child" when you were deployed for more than a year?
you redeemed yourself after barbie review
What was teh problem with the Barbie review?
The most beautiful film critic alive
Great review as always! Sadly the theme in Sound of Freedom is not interesting enough for Hollywood, maybe too real. Yes, let's admire plastic with blonde hair and call it a show:)
What a stupid false equivalence. Barbie is a pop-culture phenomenon.
@@M.H.I.A.F.T. God forbid anyone should be anti-Barbie (its a pop-culture phenomenon after all). Apparently to some its far worse to be anti-sex trafficking because the idea has somehow been twisted in their social media-driven minds to be a partisan point of contention. Talk about dumbed-down.
meh
maybe it is a poor movie?
Also, it is based on lies like Flamin' Hot and Secret Soldies of Benghazi
I don't know about you guys but when I think of sex trafficking awareness I think of GRAVITAS
I feel True Detective S1 was already what I basically would've wanted Sound of Freedom to be.
Damn. Great point.
That would be something. 😊
I loved the first season of True Detective but I see no connection at all to Sound Of freedom - as good as True Detective was we certainly have enough serial killer movies (with or without the philosophical spin) - SOF was raw and authentic and has emotionally connected with a wide audience because of that.
@@92ninersboy True Detective isn't about serial killers. It's about elite pedophiles.
@@bigbeautifulape5283 What I remember of the first True Detective season (not the other seasons which I didn't get into) was more the serial killer angle - the insane killer - maybe as the show went on it got more into an elite pedophile thing, I don't know. But if you watched Sound Of Freedom you saw that it didn't focus on elite pedophiles - there was the island that catered to rich clients, who you didn't see - but mostly it showed the run-of-the-mill pedophile degenerate, along with the methods of entrapment used by the traffickers - and very much the tragic effects on the victims and their families. I don't see much connection with True Detective, at least with the first season.
Please no Christian propaganda Hollywood new wave
What kind of propaganda do you prefer?
A film that is Anti Child Trafficking is "Christian Propaganda" ... my God you are truly lost.
Imagine being so ideologically poisoned that you just automatically take the opposing viewpoint on any opinion that is made by "CHRISTIANS!"
Dun ... DUn ...DUN!
Thunder Crack!
Lightening Strikes!
Low rumbling noises!
Turn over, time for your meds.
Just saw the movie you were lied to about the propaganda. There was none in it. The movie was about rescuing children. There wasn’t any political stuff in it at all. Just after from the people protecting the pedos
Finally, a reasonable perspective that doesn't overrate or downplay the merits of this movie
yes, this is my favorites movie review channel right now
That’s the weirdest thing about this film being weaponized by both sides of the political aisle, the film itself is pretty benign and straight-laced. Any controversy comes from forces outside the movie itself.
@@ArizonanSummer This is why I became apolitical. The woke and anti-woke crowd are both crumb dusters, looking for anything that they turn into a political narrative. They've become two screaming idiots circling the same drain.
@@ArizonanSummerseriously. I don’t even know when it got hijacked or how, but it’s a true shame
it originates in a false political ideology. How is that to be characterized as "merits"?