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  • @johanlee6342
    @johanlee6342 2 місяці тому +166

    love how the bermuda triangle book's blurb says: "Things are happening in the Bermuda Triangle even as you are reading these words." Like the author was hoping to blow somebody's mind with the fact that the world doesn't stand still while you read.
    "Things are happening at the McDonald's two blocks away even as you're reading this comment."

    • @juliehughes1258
      @juliehughes1258 Місяць тому +5

      Thank you, @johanleee. This literally made me laugh out loud. Well done.

  • @jasmin2186
    @jasmin2186 2 місяці тому +224

    How does Charles Berlitz' life story sound like such an interesting domestic thriller novel but then his books seem like an unhinged reddit thread. I'd rather read his Wikipedia article or biography ngl 😂

  • @c_r_i_ss_y
    @c_r_i_ss_y 2 місяці тому +215

    Yes!! Someone who says it out loud: 'Strong Female Characters' is the worst and least constructive term ever. Dear me, I thought the day would never come when I'd hear someone say that on YT.

  • @frybreadpwr
    @frybreadpwr 2 місяці тому +89

    as an Indigenous person, TJ Klune could’ve literally lied 😂 “i was inspired by Leela’s story in Futurama” there! there’s been so many legit orphan stories. maybe he tried to seem more worldly but it came across as insensitive and, frankly, dumb

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina Місяць тому +12

    I don't know who said it, but I always remember an old man on a documentary that said "I hated everything about _Casino Royale._ I hated the grotesque violence, I hated the disgusting s*xuality, but what I hated above alll else was the snobbery. Because *it wasn't even the snobbery of a real elititst, but rather what a dull con-artist would do to try to convince others that he's sophisticated."*

  • @stardustajm8618
    @stardustajm8618 2 місяці тому +136

    I totally agree with you (and that Goodreads reviewer) about Chloe Gong publishing so many books in such a short time being emblematic of the problems in the publishing industry. I also would say part of the problem is the audience too - they don't know how to wait for books to be published anymore and want constant content. Any time there's a wait for a new book in the series, people start panicking and bringing up George R R Martin and it's like guys... he's an outlier and shouldn't be counted. It should be normal to expect more than a year wait for the next book.

    • @rizzobeloved
      @rizzobeloved Місяць тому +2

      Agreed! While I don't agree with the claim that TikTok is turning publishing into fast fashion, I think there's merit in exploring and critiquing why people say that. It goes back to the audiences, who are mostly new readers that have grown up with other forms of media that do pump out content at a faster rate than books, who then expect for publishing to be the same.

  • @kthxbi
    @kthxbi 2 місяці тому +88

    I can remember reading The House in the Cerulean Sea because it was everywhere in queer online spaces, but I came away from it feeling very...hollow. Hearing all this come out later on has made me realise what that hollowness was - he was using a backdrop of pretty intense structural racism and bigotry towards children as a pastel cute backdrop for a romance. There was very little in the book actually about the children as people, about their feelings towards what had happened in their lives, but they were they whole reason the MC was even associated with his love interest. He was a representative of a police state monitoring and controlling their lives, but that doesn't matter as long as teach him the meaning of family or some bullshit. They were just props, reduced to caricatures that the MC could 'learn to love past their differences' so he could get in good with their guardian

    • @vickilimbocker2505
      @vickilimbocker2505 2 місяці тому +18

      On the other hand I thought it was a story about acceptance of extremely strange children and found family.

    • @jjleecore
      @jjleecore 2 місяці тому +12

      I disagree. I think the children all had their own issues and were given so much humanity. They had dreams, fears, struggles, expectations, etc.

    • @jjleecore
      @jjleecore 2 місяці тому +11

      Linus Baker also goes through such a big transformation. He goes through a process where he goes from the corporate factor of his job to living among the children and understanding what his job really does. It is a wonderful look on the child protection services/the foster system and how the corporation of it takes away the humanity of the children stuck in it. It is a beautiful critic of the system while also highlighting a different perspective on what a family can look like.

  • @Dasha_8
    @Dasha_8 2 місяці тому +58

    “Charles… let it go” lol this man sounds like me any time I discover a new favourite book😂

  • @fernandapaveltchuk2068
    @fernandapaveltchuk2068 2 місяці тому +90

    I'm so glad you point out issues related to capitalism/consummerism/economic crisis constantly throughout your videos. Extremely relevant discussion as always. ❤

  • @quillheart877
    @quillheart877 2 місяці тому +453

    I'm glad that you mentioned the TJ Klune thing. So many people either don't know about it, or brush it off way too easily because they loved the book.

    • @olgadonskaia
      @olgadonskaia 2 місяці тому +30

      I don’t know how anyone could love this book. It is manipulative, terribly written and psychologically incorrect

    • @changelingreader14
      @changelingreader14 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@olgadonskaia I've seen you say it a couple times, but what do you mean "psychologically incorrect"? Like, what exactly did Klune get wrong? Do you have examples?

    • @olgadonskaia
      @olgadonskaia 2 місяці тому +22

      @@changelingreader14 well, firstly, orphans wouldn’t trust a person from a system (my adopted children recognise social workers and are scared of them). Secondly, the protagonist who never cared about the results of his reports suddenly getting all sympathetic. And finally, the phoenix guy would never be able to provide care for those traumatised children being traumatised himself. Though I can believe the part where he falls for any man who appears on the island:)

    • @explicitlyme7497
      @explicitlyme7497 2 місяці тому +20

      @@olgadonskaia They didn't really trust him at first, but they also had abilities that he didn't, so it makes sense that they weren't terrified of him the way that some kids fear random social workers in the real world. Why would you be terrified of someone who you could technically kill if you really wanted to?

    • @olgadonskaia
      @olgadonskaia 2 місяці тому +4

      @@explicitlyme7497 of course you can try to make sense of anything but building characters is the author’s job, which he fails to do properly. He just uses the orphan trope as a cliche. I think he does more harm than good with his book

  • @circleofleaves2676
    @circleofleaves2676 2 місяці тому +181

    In Australia we have a similar thing to Canada's The Sixties Scoop. Here it's called The Stolen Generation (which wasn't just one generation - it was multiple). Aboriginal children being stolen from their parents, their community, their county, and being thrust into white christian religious missions and into white family's homes. It was a time of actual genocide, and cultural genocide, their lands stolen, their language diluted. As a white australian, no way in hell would that ever be my story to tell, especially not inserting myself as the hero of the story when that's exactly what the governments and churches were doing with their rotten deluded hero/saviour complex, marching in and deciding they were saving the souls of beautiful children who already had a living culture that is older than any other on the planet. The trauma and grief and cyclical impact of these actions continues today.

    • @tinagarcia3571
      @tinagarcia3571 2 місяці тому +10

      same indian boarding schools here in the U.S., but he didn't write about that or try to put a happy spin on it, he was inspired by it to write a different kind of story. even though i didn't enjoy the book i have no problem with being inspired by anything at all, authors are going have to pass on talking or writing about their process for fear of the trendy moral outrage generation. all i care about any artist is if the art is to my liking.

    • @digby3618
      @digby3618 2 місяці тому

      More white children were removed than aboriginal children. Blatant race baiting.

    • @angeliqueazul8670
      @angeliqueazul8670 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@tinagarcia3571 It is perfectly valid when you say that you personally do not care what inspires an author's work - completely fair. But I think that calling it a problem of the "trendy moral outrage generation" is very dismissive for a discourse the author inserted himself into. Fair enough if you do not have a problem with it but other people do. Because here is the thing: the author could have read that Wikipedia article, written his novel, which, as Emma points out, draws no connection whatsoever to the traumatic part of Canadian history that inspired it, and enjoyed the success of his book. However, by saying publicly that his novel was inspired by this part of history that he himself says he has no place in writing about places his novel into the wider discourse of that history. And within that discourse, unfortunately, his novel perpetuates the white savior narrative that is at the heart of this traumatic period of history. So, really, the problem is less with the book itself than with the author's thought process that as long as he makes it a fantasy book his narrative decisions do not have to critically engage with the source of inspiration AND YET he can at the same time cash in on a deeply traumatic past as his inspiration to... what? Give his novel depth? Increase sales? Gain reputation as a 'deep author'? Pointing out this discrepancy and communicating that we as a society of readers are not okay with this is an important contribution to the wider discourse about telling stories about or inspired by indigenous peoples.

    • @tinagarcia3571
      @tinagarcia3571 Місяць тому

      @@angeliqueazul8670 But he didn't tell a story about indigenous people, if he had you might have a small point. I am dismissive of this trendy moral outrage.

    • @angeliqueazul8670
      @angeliqueazul8670 Місяць тому +2

      @@tinagarcia3571 No, he did not directly tell a story about indigenous people. However, he created a story that parallels real life events and that he himself admitted was inspired by traumatic experiences of indigenous people. So, while the book does not talk about indigenous people directly, the author has effectively made this a fictional story about them through giving additional context to the story in interviews - and as such it is part of the discourse of indigenous stories and it is valid for people to criticize it as such.

  • @Mahikankwe
    @Mahikankwe Місяць тому +3

    I cannot believe i waisted my time reading the tj klune book.. as an Indigenous, a daughter of a woman that survived the residential school, i am truly appalled by this.. i cannot believe the audacity.. he didn’t even question his decision to write a cutesy book taking inspiration from such a horrible thing.. children died, children got sa’d, i’ve heard so much horrible things that happened in these schools, priests impregnating young girls and burning the babies alive!!! Horrible, never buying his books again.

  • @xxzcfdxc
    @xxzcfdxc 2 місяці тому +97

    What are your thoughts on Murakami describing young girls the way he does? It's very creepy. Just an opinion.

    • @palcicaa
      @palcicaa 2 місяці тому +20

      Tbh ive only read norwegian wood and it was super disappointing, i just couldn't get over the writing of women and girls, it made me super uncomfy
      I get that murakami is super popular and im open to trying his other works but this one was really disappointing.

    • @maike628
      @maike628 2 місяці тому +4

      Well now I'm scared...I heard so much of Murakami that I picked up "Desire" when I came across it on a second hand site. I think it's a short story collection. Now I worry what awaits me when I do decide to read it 🫠

    • @manjirad_31
      @manjirad_31 2 місяці тому +9

      I remember she did mention it in her old videos reading Murakami.

  • @_Alimm
    @_Alimm 2 місяці тому +42

    I recommend A Mind Spread Out on the Ground by Alicia Elliot, a Indigenous Canadian author that talks about just this, the generational trauma of anti-Indian boarding schools and the white men that are elevated in the book industry to take on the telling of these sensitive Indigenous stories for aesthetic or savior purposes. Powerful read, one of my faves.

  • @nevel-luna5070
    @nevel-luna5070 2 місяці тому +24

    Thank you for making this video! I enjoyed hearing you talk about books you love, but also the ones your think are questionable

  • @irisadi7002
    @irisadi7002 2 місяці тому +80

    Finally someone else who didn’t enjoy these violent delights, i couldn't even finish it, i dnfd it halfway through i think?

    • @e4mi
      @e4mi 2 місяці тому +1

      I only finished it because my book club didn't so I gave the tldr of the ending lol

    • @rhapsodyinbleu
      @rhapsodyinbleu 2 місяці тому +4

      I DNF'ed it one chapter in 😅

    • @harmonyispimp
      @harmonyispimp 2 місяці тому +2

      I also DNF'd it.

  • @stellymads
    @stellymads 2 місяці тому +10

    THANK YOU i’m so tired of feeling crazy for not liking these violent delights

  • @snorave
    @snorave 2 місяці тому +12

    Hey! The book she recommended at the end is called "The Marrow Thieves" by Cherie Dimaline and it is truly an amazing book. If you are interested, please do give it a go! c:

  • @seochangbinsarms
    @seochangbinsarms 2 місяці тому +49

    12:16 yeah there’s definitely a difference between ignorance and hatred, bro sounds like a sex offender😭

    • @kingkefa7130
      @kingkefa7130 2 місяці тому

      Spies are not generally nice people.

  • @MeAsTeee
    @MeAsTeee 2 місяці тому +4

    Glad you mentioned such thoughtful issues/topics. Also still contemplating reading these violent delights though

  • @myweakness1883
    @myweakness1883 2 місяці тому +4

    I literally just read These Violent Delights and at first I was so confused by your description of the plot??? Then I realized there are two books of the same name - the one I read was by Micah Nemerever, a completely different story (and a really intriguing one at that)

  • @InkInsight15
    @InkInsight15 2 місяці тому +18

    Wow! I was expecting solely a rant, but your take on the publishing industry and the slowly creeping issues infesting it was a true eye-opener!
    P.S.: It's a lice... it's a louse... What it is, is a lousy plot device! 😂

  • @loyaultemelie7909
    @loyaultemelie7909 2 місяці тому +90

    I have to admit I don’t quite agree with your take on Klune - though I do understand the thought process behind it. I think Klune never actually says “this story is an allegory for indigenous suffering” but rather “this historical tragedy inspired the framework of this book.” I haven’t read the book so I can’t actually say how explicit it is. But if you only realize the inspiration for the book from an interview because the plot is so disconnected from any historical reality, is it really appropriation?
    I say this as a poc who has definitely read appropriative literature and who generally dislikes the idea of white people fictionalizing a tragedy that they perpetuated/have no connection to. If the story was a historical fiction about the Sixties Scoop then I could see the idea that Klune is taking up air. But if the story is really so disconnected from its origin that you can’t tell, I don’t really think you could claim that. How many people read this and never realized the connection? Their view of systemic violence perpetuated against indigenous people is then not at all affected by this book. Idk. I just don’t love the idea of policing inspiration to this extent. But again, I do see how the conclusion is drawn.

    • @bookclubcat
      @bookclubcat 2 місяці тому +24

      I think the problem is you can tell- the kids are taken from their homes to live in this school/boarding house and they face discrimination from larger society for being inhuman. The main government agency thing is trying to enforce the schools and have the kids reject their magical heritage and teach them to act civilized. They also quote the “see something say something” rhetoric. It’s so blatant I didn’t know about it when I picked it up and I pretty quickly realized when I was reading. What makes it worse too is that the children are literally not even human- one is a blob monster and one is the literal antichrist. There obviously isn’t any conversation on colonialism or anything like that, and the solution in the end is to advocate for the boarding school to *stay open* with magical leadership.
      He basically repackaged and watered down genocide into a one dimensional lighthearted fantasy. I also don’t think that it’s inherently a problem for an author to take a real life tragedy and fictionalize it or tell it in a way suitable for younger audiences, but in this case his approach completely undermines and minimizes what reformation schooling actually was- and as a white man from Oregon it wasn’t his story to tell in the first place.

    • @priyankakapoor8063
      @priyankakapoor8063 2 місяці тому +14

      But didn’t he explicitly word it as ‘inspiration’, if he hadn’t, then it would be a different story. The subject matter is horrifying to say the least. And how come his takeaway inspiration was…social workers are saviours?

    • @elizaveta_youtube
      @elizaveta_youtube Місяць тому +5

      Having read the book, I agree with your point. I fell like Klune's biggest mistake was to tell what inspired him, not to actually write this book.

    • @rizzobeloved
      @rizzobeloved Місяць тому +2

      But the thing is the history he used is riddled with violence against indigenous people. The only people who have a right to use said history and turn it into a lighthearted fantasy are the children who lived it, not the people who are far removed from it. Otherwise that's profiting off of a painful history that's still affecting people till this day.

    • @elizaveta_youtube
      @elizaveta_youtube Місяць тому +5

      ​@@rizzobeloved I understand your perspective, but there's a line between directly using a story and drawing inspiration from it. In the case of Klune's work, he incorporated the concept of 'children seen as different being taken away' without specifically portraying indigenous children or anyhow exploring their narrative.

  • @melofy-vibes
    @melofy-vibes 2 місяці тому +112

    Hi Emma!
    About T.J Klune, I've read his other works too, and I can assure you the guy just loves writing heart warming fantasies. His intention with this book hasn't been to have a conversation about indigenous people. He didn't try to be their savior because he wrote the story for other reasons and with completely fictional characters! As you said yourself, this book was inspired by that article, but it became something completely irrelevant to the actual history.
    How is he a problematic writer when his book is not targeted towards the indigenous community? How is he offending them or making their experience seem unremarkable if we can't find any trace of them in the story?

    • @emmanarotzky6565
      @emmanarotzky6565 2 місяці тому +16

      He just shouldn’t have said anything about it! When I read the book, I had no idea he was thinking about the 60’s scoop, it just seemed like a cute romance with a backdrop of ‘fantasy racism vs. the power of love’. Cheesy but still nice. If anything I thought the magical kids seemed more like an allegory for disability, in that they look, talk, and think differently and some people just didn’t bother to learn how to interact with them. Klune should have just left it at that and not claimed that it was supposed to be an allegory for a very specific time in history that it didn’t represent at all.

    • @BlueCoolOla
      @BlueCoolOla 2 місяці тому +24

      ​@@emmanarotzky6565 but he never claimed it was supposed to be an allegory! He literally just said he encountered the article, drew some inspiration from it and decided to do his own thing. I agree that even bringing up the sixties scoop as his inspiration was a bad idea because then it opens him up to all this disingenuous criticism, but he's clearly a clumsy sort of guy and he put his foot in his mouth in this case and people are acting as if he wrote the book to whitewash cultural genocide.

    • @mangeusedelivres
      @mangeusedelivres Місяць тому +6

      @@BlueCoolOla I shouldn't have bothered writing my long comment lol because you said it just right! I'll add that by citing this scoop, TJ Klune made some people want to educate themselves about it! I had never heard of it before.

    • @aqibmajeed7219
      @aqibmajeed7219 17 днів тому

      Yess,i agree...he was 40 btw-not 27 as Emma said!

  • @LinnieCat
    @LinnieCat 2 місяці тому +50

    I regret reading Killing Commendatore by Murakami. I loved his books when I was younger and somehow managed to ignore the red flags in his other works but omg Killing Commendatore… The main character keeps thinking about HIS DEAD, 13 YEAR OLD SISTER’S BREASTS like wtf. I’ll never pick up a Murakami book again

    • @Tolstoy111
      @Tolstoy111 2 місяці тому +2

      Are you being sarcastic?

    • @circleofleaves2676
      @circleofleaves2676 2 місяці тому +28

      His portrayal of women in his books is always a thorn in my side. Either he has never grown up, or he hasn't had any actual relations with a woman as an adult.

    • @darrenreynolds3531
      @darrenreynolds3531 2 місяці тому +16

      I liked Killing Commendatore but I know what you mean. What’s worse in KC is the 13 year old girl talking to the middle aged main character about the size of her breasts. Can you imagine this ever happening in the real world? Okay this isn’t the real world it’s Murakami world but you have to wonder about an old male writer conjuring up this scene out of his imagination.

    • @ElinWinblad
      @ElinWinblad 2 місяці тому

      @@circleofleaves2676 or maybe he writes it that way, because people like that actually exist in various stages of life

    • @LinnieCat
      @LinnieCat 2 місяці тому +1

      @@circleofleaves2676 I totally agree but I didn’t see that as a teenager. Maybe I don’t regret reading this book after all, since it was my “wake up call”

  • @heatherbocks
    @heatherbocks 8 днів тому

    “This is catastrophic, I’m going to have to face this one day.” My thoughts on quicksand as a child. Weirdly, it has never been an issue in my life.

  • @MissLaceyDaisy
    @MissLaceyDaisy 2 місяці тому +20

    31:40 This was hilarious to me and I kept rewatching this section. I'm now questioning if I even know how to pronounce "orphanages" correctly.

  • @martinelanglois3158
    @martinelanglois3158 2 місяці тому +5

    "... running on Windows like negative four" 😂 I love your sense of humour.
    I read "I'll have what she's having", a book on how Nora Ephron saved the romantic comedy. I would have appreciated more on Nora's actual work writing and directing and less on the actors in the movies, less gossip, less on budgets, etc.

  • @incandescent.glow.
    @incandescent.glow. 2 місяці тому +1

    Oh my god, this video is so intriguing. You should keep doing this!

  • @Readingmariana
    @Readingmariana 2 місяці тому +2

    Loved this video, Emma! Yes please, more reading regrets and criticism towards low quality content

  • @ellenrooms_writes9047
    @ellenrooms_writes9047 Місяць тому +2

    I wanted to love These Violent Delights because it sounded amazing but I gave up about halfway through in part because of the reasons you mentioned and also because the writing made me cringe so hard. I just couldn’t do it.

  • @OllieViklund
    @OllieViklund 2 місяці тому +15

    I love the house in the cerulean sea, it was and is so meaningful to me. It has it flaws, like any other book or story, but I will forever hold dear and near to my heart.

  • @user-ef9jr8wm1b
    @user-ef9jr8wm1b Місяць тому +1

    The 39 Clues is my special interest and has been for a very very long time and when I realized it was Rick Riordan's Maze of Bones that you were talking about, I lost my mind a little bit :D

  • @sherrirabinowitz4618
    @sherrirabinowitz4618 2 місяці тому +3

    I have flown to Puerto Rico twice and I'm still here. We didn't even have any turbulence.

  • @rthraitor
    @rthraitor 2 місяці тому +27

    Goodreads ratings are so garbage 😂

    • @Emma-Maze
      @Emma-Maze Місяць тому

      I learned that long ago 😂 I read "House in the Cerulean Sea" because of the crazy high ratings and I just had the most "meh" time even before learning of the author's statements and understanding the super icky background.

  • @larochka1
    @larochka1 2 місяці тому +2

    truly amazing video, Emma. about your recommendation, did you mean The Marrow Thieves? when you said the dream thieves, which I’ve read, I felt lost like wait I don’t remember that stuff in there hahaha

  • @alyssakueppers916
    @alyssakueppers916 2 місяці тому +1

    stop I was OBSESSED with the 39 clues books when I was a kid omg

  • @tbrooks529
    @tbrooks529 2 місяці тому +8

    I regret buying Enders Game because I'm a lesbian and hated knowing I gave money to a homophobic ahole.
    I read the book about the Bermuda Triangle when I was a kid, one of the first books I read. I even wrote to the author and suggested he ask NASA to watch out for aliens so he would have evidence (you can see the budding scientist in me, lol). I'm about double your age so the book was fairly newish at that time, and the Bermuda Triangle was still a sensationalized thing. I remember not wanting to go to Disney World because I didn't want to be THAT close to the Triangle. It's a book that helped me, eventually, seek out answers to mysteries using the scientific method, so in a way it helped me become the scientist I am today. And if I could write him another letter I would tell him that Atlantis was most likely made up, or, if based off a real place that place was definitely destroyed in a very famous volcanic eruption in the Mediterranean Sea waaaaay back in ancient history. And the technology the place had was rudimentary plumbing and a navy of sorts. Stuff we would see as very basic, but ancient Greeks saw as far more advanced than it should've been for the time period they came from.
    Anyway, I hope you are well and give the kitties a giant hug 😊

  • @kristenp6547
    @kristenp6547 2 місяці тому +2

    Robert Ludlum was my go-to spy novelist back in the day, think The Bourne Identity,The Bourne Ultimatum etc. I couldn't get enough of them.

  • @umayahewaarachchi
    @umayahewaarachchi 2 місяці тому +3

    The funny thing is I just took a break from writing an essay on conspiracy theories to watch some youtube videos, and you just happened to upload this lol
    Edit:
    Holyyy, I'm aware of the 60s Scoop but had no idea that TJ Klune's book was based off of it. Thank you for bringing it up!

  • @chiming_
    @chiming_ 2 місяці тому +13

    From a viewer’s point of view, I agreed with you on having a natural flow - meaning the inclusion of some ummm, errrr, and a moment for your thinking process, instead of a heavily edited video every other 10 seconds or so just to take out the so-called imperfection. The latter always puts me off continuing watching videos from that creator. Thanks for continuing making bookish videos for us.

  • @icedmatchalatteM
    @icedmatchalatteM Місяць тому

    You’re one of the only people I trust on UA-cam/TikTok to talk about books.

  • @jennellem.1406
    @jennellem.1406 2 місяці тому +1

    You unlocked a childhood memory with the 39 clues book 😮 never read them but I remember seeing them all the time. I used to love the Magic Treehouse books when I was a kid, and Dolphin Diaries

  • @ReligionOfSacrifice
    @ReligionOfSacrifice 2 місяці тому +1

    The beginnings of 007 is John Buchan's "The Thirty Nine Steps." It does cover the idea of the subtle aspects of disappearing or doing your work without obviously doing so.

  • @ransbackburnerig
    @ransbackburnerig 2 місяці тому +1

    Aaaaa rly love it when u use that mic in your videos 😔💗

  • @mangeusedelivres
    @mangeusedelivres Місяць тому +7

    The thing about The House in the Cerulean Sea for me is that he doesn't claim to represent the indigenous residential schools so I don't really see the issue, it's not a rewriting. It's just something that inspired him. + by citing this in his interview he shed light on the sixties scoop (wich i had never heard of - maybe bcs I'm french). So he wrote a beautiful story about acceptance and the need for love wich I think is amazing to read for YA. I fail to see how he profits off of this history because he chose not to write a story about it. Like you said, the orphanages in the book are not like the real-life residential schools, the kids are not abducted. And like for once we have a story that says the system is bad and not just an individual villain. Maybe I'm missing something, please tell me if so.

  • @luvmeday
    @luvmeday 2 місяці тому +1

    The these violent delights slander is so beautiful haha

  • @ziraffen
    @ziraffen Місяць тому

    Your comments about These Violent Delights reminded me so much about my experience with Babel by RF Kuang lmao. A lot of "telling, not showing". I regret that one hehe

  • @snehaaiyer7279
    @snehaaiyer7279 Місяць тому

    Thank you for this video!❤

  • @tabithamiscellania
    @tabithamiscellania 2 місяці тому +3

    I'm so glad I dnf'd these violent delights now.

  • @KenHidaka84
    @KenHidaka84 2 місяці тому +1

    you have glitter on your face and this is so relatable. 😂 love your videos so much. please do not ever stop.

  • @miriamlevenson9430
    @miriamlevenson9430 Місяць тому +1

    omg the 39 clues… taking me back fr

  • @bigfella5731
    @bigfella5731 2 місяці тому

    omg the 39 clues thing, that just reawakened a repressed memory 😭

  • @barbara9315
    @barbara9315 21 день тому

    That first book reminded me of the theories on the Why Files channel ❤

  • @Andrea_Juarez
    @Andrea_Juarez 2 місяці тому +2

    I agree with everything you said about these violent delights. I thought I was the only one who hated everything about it

  • @meerkatmcr
    @meerkatmcr 2 місяці тому +1

    Potential antidote to the Bermuda Triangle book: "The Bermuda Triangle Mystery - Solved" by Larry Kusche (Prometheus Books, 1995). It goes through a long list of purported Bermuda Triangle incidents, and shows that none of them need a supernatural explanation (and that there's no evidence some of them even happened, or that if they did happen, they happened well outside the relevant area), especially when you look at the broader context of each one, not just the bits people writing Bermuda Triangle books bother to mention.

  • @meganvr1228
    @meganvr1228 2 місяці тому +169

    I guess I’m a fool because I still don’t get the outrage at The House in the Cerulean Sea, and its author. 🤷🏻‍♀️
    I’m pretty sure that nobody who read the book made the connection between the story and the Sixties Scoop until the author mentioned it. It literally has nothing in it to suggest anything to do with the indigenous community. If it did and was written with indigenous characters, I could understand people being upset, but it’s not as if taking fantastical children and setting them in an orphanage/camp/school, away from their families, is even an original idea. Other writers have done that in X-Men, The Darkest Minds, The Umbrella Academy, just to name a few. In most of these types of stories, it’s openly acknowledged to be a terrible thing.
    Tons of books out there are inspired by awful things that happened in history, as we draw on experiences, past and present, to create stories that make us feel something, and question our complicity, which is exactly what’s done in THitCS, with Linus. I don’t see how Linus’s journey in discovering his complicity, and correcting it, is bad or
    harmful? 😓

    • @giantcupofcoffee
      @giantcupofcoffee 2 місяці тому +37

      I wonder about this too. I disliked the book for other reasons but I’m not mad that the author used knowledge of a real event as a springboard for a story that ended up being about something else.

    • @aleenakhan6230
      @aleenakhan6230 2 місяці тому +96

      I respect Emma and other white people who feel icky about it, but I kinda feel like this is just another case of white people getting offended on the behalf of poc 😅

    • @M1ntt806
      @M1ntt806 2 місяці тому

      @@aleenakhan6230 that's how I feel about it too. White liberals and performative virtue signalling is just a match made in heaven lol. Would love to see them put their money where there mouth is instead of trying to say the "right" set of words for a change.

    • @PolaFromPoland87
      @PolaFromPoland87 2 місяці тому +36

      Thank you for that comment! It's sad that one thing taken out of context is still after all those years completely misunderstood and that people are so easy to jump onto a cancel culture band wagon. I expected better from this chanel...

    • @giantcupofcoffee
      @giantcupofcoffee 2 місяці тому +19

      @@aleenakhan6230 Especially since the actual story warrants its own criticism. It’s about a white male government employee who works to enforce the status quo of oppression and only changes for the better when the status quo started affecting him and taking away what he wanted. It’s not like he goes back to undo the harm he’d previously done.
      But we’re supposed to be mad about loose historical interpretation?

  • @ninja_boy
    @ninja_boy 2 місяці тому +1

    For a minute there I thought you were going to talk about "These Violent Delights" by Micah Nemerever. Same title, but much better book!

  • @shannonbrown8966
    @shannonbrown8966 2 місяці тому +3

    If you want to try another classic spy novel, do give John le Carre's The Spy Who Came In From the Cold. My Dad was a huge fan of Le Carre's work and this one is supposed to be one of the best.

  • @Torsee
    @Torsee 2 місяці тому

    Yay!
    It’s Emmie ASMR!
    Truly you should read books out loud for a living!
    ❤ your work!

  • @NTNG13
    @NTNG13 2 місяці тому +96

    I haven't read the book but there's an argument to be made that Klune took inspiration from real life history and then fictionalized in a fantasy; that's not offensive in itself and in fact it's less offensive than if you would write about real world history with no regards for victims like in true crime books.
    I don't know how that equates to him taking the voice from indigenous writers. How is he stopping them from writing their own stories?

    • @melofy-vibes
      @melofy-vibes 2 місяці тому +22

      Exactly! I don't see the evil everyone's talking about...

    • @bluecannibaleyes
      @bluecannibaleyes 2 місяці тому +21

      Yeah, it just seems like she’s trying to tell writers what they are and aren’t allowed to write and/or be inspired by, which seems really stifling to creativity.

    • @irine_elle
      @irine_elle Місяць тому

      The book is just bad. Full stop. I didn't know the entire story when I read and it still felt so icky.

    • @Rash23215
      @Rash23215 Місяць тому +3

      ​but "bad" is subjective..... most prople don't find it bad..... besides, her critic of it isn't because it's bad.....

  • @e4mi
    @e4mi 2 місяці тому +6

    I hated TVD by Chloe Gong but loved These Violent Delights by Micah Nemerever. Its obsession, dark, and not meant to be romanticized at all (aka not a dark romance). TW for 1970s homophobia, and violence
    Edit; I should also say that I have a special dislike for Gong because she admitted she sees her books as college papers. She ignores suggested edits, submits the book to her editor, and refuses to reread her work. So ya even after given her a second try, I refuse to read her work

  • @picketfenced5771
    @picketfenced5771 2 місяці тому +24

    I think it’s pretty interesting how Kline turned a tragic history into a story of acceptance. Also, it sheds light on what happened.
    I think it’s a silly concept that someone can’t write about a history they didn’t share. If they write with respect, I don’t think it’s an issue.

  • @isaidwhatisaid12
    @isaidwhatisaid12 2 місяці тому +3

    the 39 clues 😂I’m dying

  • @kristoffrable
    @kristoffrable Місяць тому +1

    To be fair, Charles did co-write one book about The Roswell Crash (the first book about it) and there is no real mention of Atlantis in there. 😂

  • @susruthasam7657
    @susruthasam7657 Місяць тому

    I still love 39 clues knowing I won't enjoy them now because I borrowed the books from a friend back then😂😂

  • @idahansen726
    @idahansen726 2 місяці тому

    I really regret reading The Girls from Corona del Mar. A book usually never makes me physically angry but oh boy...
    It was described as this great story about friendship between two women but it was the most twisted thing I have ever read?! With friends like these, you truly don't need enemies...I've read it years ago at this point but still feel so mad at it.

  • @LexieMoon321
    @LexieMoon321 2 місяці тому +8

    THANK YOU! I agree 1000% about Juliette in These Violent Delights. You can make a strong female character and not make them a complete monster. The scene with her and the waitress really rubbed me the wrong way.

  • @mauranepieters6529
    @mauranepieters6529 2 місяці тому

    39:07 I think the book you're referring to is called "The Marrow Thieves" by Cherie Dimaline.

  • @nicdarling12
    @nicdarling12 Місяць тому +1

    I don’t know for sure, but I’m fairly certain that I cited Berlitz’s work in a paper about the Bermuda Triangle in 5th grade. Unfortunate, if so. This was before the internet so my options were limited.

  • @vtena_
    @vtena_ 2 місяці тому +1

    i was thinking of reading these violent delights since i love R&J and the title is my favourite quote of the play, but after hearing that the book is super poorly executed id have to find a different R&J retelling that i would actually enjoy 😓

  • @allisonbrock9563
    @allisonbrock9563 2 місяці тому

    I completely forgot about the maze of bones books, completely obsessed as a kid ! thank god I didn’t know about the card packs 😅

  • @jio5680
    @jio5680 2 місяці тому

    Me, who read literally the whole series(es) of 39 Clues and absolutely loved them🤣

  • @Witchy_Reads
    @Witchy_Reads 2 місяці тому +1

    I loved this video! A recent reading regret I have is Outlawed by Anna North. Too many "progressive" topics were shoehorned into the story without a clear focus on the message. Then, in trying to send that progressive message, the author comes full circle back to racism, homophobia, transphobia, and misogyny. It was wild!

  • @lectumarta
    @lectumarta Місяць тому

    Oh god, when you said These Violent Delights I started rubbing my hands. I hated that book and I hate the fact that I spent money on that book 😐

  • @ester797
    @ester797 2 місяці тому

    The visuals that popped in my mind while Emma was describing the plague in Violent Delights. No, just no!! 😢😢

  • @binglamb2176
    @binglamb2176 2 місяці тому +3

    Love the Bond novels. Granted, they are not the best written books ever, but they are so entertaining. I have the entire collection of the original Fleming Bond novels.

  • @Padmepotter4986
    @Padmepotter4986 2 місяці тому

    This reminds me! Somewhere Beyond the Sea comes out later this year.

  • @ileriyaxx3237
    @ileriyaxx3237 2 місяці тому +4

    i agree with you like 95% of the time but these violent delights and the entire secret shanghai series will always hold a special place in my heart

  • @Szilvi79
    @Szilvi79 28 днів тому

    The TJ Klune problem got me thinking:
    Why is that, nobody mantions the YA distopian novels based on the communist oppression?
    Half of Europe (and even the Far East at the moment) lived that sh*t through. Millions suffered and died during that time period.
    Not western world's history or trauma, yet dozens of novels and books are coming out every year based on it, and nobody bets an eye. Nobody says it's problematic.

  • @India-th1ur
    @India-th1ur Місяць тому

    Ooooo Marrow Thieves by Cherie Dimaline is a strong rec! I read it for a uni module on dystopias a couple months ago and honestly so good

  • @kanellita
    @kanellita 2 місяці тому +4

    the book i regret reading the most is 'a little life'. i went into it from recs by people i followed online and truly lost my faith in human connection for a minute there. please read reviews if you're thinking of reading that horrendous thing

  • @FfionMEdwards
    @FfionMEdwards 2 місяці тому +1

    Lewis Carroll is another very problematic author, something I had no idea about until my friend was reading a book based on him by a relative - definitely wild considering Alice in Wonderland is still such a popular story

  • @abbiluczynski3581
    @abbiluczynski3581 Місяць тому +1

    AAAAHHH!!! I used to LOVE 39 Clues!

  • @james-nw9up
    @james-nw9up 2 місяці тому +1

    Crazy or not those Bermuda triangle theories are pretty cool

  • @Yellowtea49
    @Yellowtea49 Місяць тому

    The ones I regret reading are "The house in the Cerulean sea" (for the same reasons obv), The cafe on the edge of the world (it kinda encourages giving up on your job to follow your dreams??? Through very basic and boring phrases) and The Idiot by Dostoevsky (it was SO bad and boring)

  • @justwonder1404
    @justwonder1404 2 місяці тому +1

    26:40 - as a person originally from a minority in Russia now living in Ukraine, I fail to put into words clearly enough just how hillarious the idea of a big group of Russians coming to a foreign (especially considered 'inferior') country and learning and respecing its ways sounds to me. If you didn't hear about Russian colonialism it doesn't mean it's not a thing kids.

  • @rowie3787
    @rowie3787 Місяць тому +6

    emmie i agreed with every take of yours BUT the tj klune review. i hope you took a stretch before you took that big of a leap. why are you as a white person dictating what people can and can't write about REAL historical events that have happened to indigenous people? in fact, i'm so surprised people didn't know about these residential schools. the fact that it's not common knowledge for even tj klune to have known, yet alone a whole new generation of children who are taught on the colonizer's perspective, is scary! in fact, i think it brings more light to a situation for a child to pick up this book, read it, and be able to come to terms with accepting everyone and loving all rather than being brainwashed into not knowing about this event at all. i, myself, am indigenous and find nothing wrong with the concept or idea as a whole. just a very disappointing take coming from someone who also doesn't come from the culture or race.

  • @yw1971
    @yw1971 Місяць тому

    1:26 - It was a time of disasters - on film & books

  • @nur-e-diphamuttaqi
    @nur-e-diphamuttaqi 2 місяці тому

    Sixties Scoop... they touched this issue in the series Anne with an E... adaptation of Anne of Green Gables. I thought it was great and very well handled. However, others critiqued that it went way too much away from the source material. What is your take?

  • @seochangbinsarms
    @seochangbinsarms 2 місяці тому +2

    14:51 I DIDNT EVEN KNOW THIS EXISTED💀

  • @morgannerose7856
    @morgannerose7856 Місяць тому

    i forgot about the 39 clues omg

  • @hyemiyah
    @hyemiyah 2 місяці тому

    omg i've read so many books that i've regret reading lol but off the top of my head the one that comes to mind (because i read it two years ago, which is fairly recent) is magnolia parks. all of the people in that book were terrible people. and not in a good way. they were just spoiled brats. the worst was that the author was trying to paint a picture that they were all horrible because of ~childhood trauma~ but like, they were ALL INSANELY RICH. WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST GO TO THERAPY. seriously, if they'd all have gone to therapy then the book wouldn't exist. the toxicity was so repetitive it got bored quite quickly and the book was long just because the main character described every single piece of designer clothing she was wearing all the time.

  • @fategg6998
    @fategg6998 2 місяці тому

    what microphone do you record with?

  • @bertfechner417
    @bertfechner417 2 місяці тому

    I started playing the Tomb Raider games (the reboots) awhile ago and the first one takes place in the Devils Triangle in Asia, I assumed it was a fictional place made-up for the game but nope. It's a real place. There's another Triangle just like Bermuda on the other side of the world.

  • @TomHuckACAB
    @TomHuckACAB 2 місяці тому

    emma stan 4 ever

  • @Tolstoy111
    @Tolstoy111 2 місяці тому

    An interesting corollary to this might be books one loved when young but not so much upon revisiting. For me it’s Piers Anthony’s Xanth series. Yech

  • @sera6128
    @sera6128 2 місяці тому

    just to point out but the book by cherie dimaline is called the marrow thieves not dream thieves !! 39:06

  • @lydiafrost8769
    @lydiafrost8769 2 місяці тому +24

    Even before finding out about the residential school inspiration I thought The House in the Cerulean Sea was oversimplifying complex social issues with a trite "love conquers all" message that seemed ill fitting for a supposedly adult book that was trying to make analogies to real-life discrimination. I original thought those references were just more generally to issues in orphanages, racism/ homophobia, etc and it annoyed me even then. I understand its supposed to be sweet and feel-good but it just seems irresponsible.

  • @user-mn4sp1jz5b
    @user-mn4sp1jz5b Місяць тому +1

    Casino Royale was great. thanks for the suggestion. Books are usually written for their times especially works of fiction. Can't wait for book reviews in 40 years for the wonderful woke books written today.