We already have a basic bounty system with the bandit contracts. This doesn't seem much different other than we're getting them from a board instead of from an npc for turning in an encoded order.
This is all I could gather on these two! More clarifications, if you guys have them, are welcome! PS, the Elite Spec video I mentioned isn't up just yet. I also have the two final interviews about to release back to back, covering seven more developers. Enjoy, guys! I'm working hard to get back to episode six content, promise. EDIT: Oh and there was also this mammoth upload to my second channel, if you guys want to watch or download and use in the big competition: ua-cam.com/video/QKV-YKEHjvk/v-deo.html
One of the most appealing things about the footage of the new expac is seeing the armor all the npcs are wearing, hopefully we can wear these dope sets.
The daily Zaishen Bounties in GW1 sound very similar to this bounty system for PoF and WiK 'War in Kryta' actually has the Wanted which also has similarity.
The days on which aurora pechy gamplay appers on wp channel is the gameplay appears on wp channel is the greatest day of my life. Community comes together to scrape info out of gameplays !beautiful!
I liked what you said about the bounties being something new in game for people who don't raid, or do high level fractals. While I play a little bit more aggressively than my husband, except for dungeons, world bosses, or just pve roaming, (HoT maps or LS3 maps), there hasn't seemed to be a lot for us to do as of late. When we had the demo in the Oasis, he and I had a blast doing the bounties, raptor races, etc. He actually seemed excited to play the game, because it wasn't the usual routine we do normally. I can also tell you that he seemed to enjoy the demo map much more, than when we got HoT. For a long time, he hated those maps, because there wasn't much "breathing room" (meaning that a solo roamer had a more difficult time, because of all the mobs in the HoT maps and there weren't many "safe" spots to salvage, repair, etc.). We're both excited to see what Path of Fire has in store for us! Thanks for the video, WP. :)
I was never bothered by inventory space while running through the world. It only becomes a bother when you have 4k dragonite or things like that sitting around and no option to sell it.
Great video! I'm surprised just how much I'm looking forward to identification. Also, I'm saving those gems for the inevitable unlimited identification kit in the gem store (and more shared inventory slots).
Something about bounties I noticed on the free demon weekend. There are legendary bounties - Never got there though as the contract was finished before I got there (it appeared on the left board). and you can just select the bounty you want from your board; just select the piece of paper for it. Not sure if any of this has been said before, thought I should put just in case.
One thing they could add is that if a different player does not have the bounty contract they cant summon or attack him and if they do have the contract and attack first you can join in to gain the same rewards. It should be like hero challenges but you need the contract to have credit/rewards.
I really hope the pieces of unidentified gear are separated into rarities. Might be okay to salvage up to rare pieces, but it could be worth identifying exotic ones.
Speaking of bounty targets named after gw1 characters, there's one in Vabbi named Corps razr, that I wonder if my gw1 necro named Korpse Razor might have been the inspiration. Maybe I'm just being vein, but they're very similar
As someone with max bag slots, majority of them full of toys, tonics, consumables, and gear, while mono tooning PvE, making me always dread having to clear my inventory with the few 20 slot bags that already lost a few slots to keys... Identification makes me very happy. Fuuuuuuuck green runes and sigils.
soo is this just replacing the bags of green/yellow gear we had with HOT events or will this also replace drops from enemies? cause it actually sounds like it's the same but now we need additional stuff to get the stuff
I really like the new coming bounty system and hopefully it allows people who prefer to roam and do world bosses more content :). As for the identification system anything that can decrease bag space and increase loot vale is a no brainer i am all for. Thanks for all the hard work WP
I hope there are different rarities of these items. If rarity doesnt come in until identifying, then either we will have to go identify everything which is worse for inventory wars or, if people just salvage, the rate of rares from ectos will go down because there will be fewer ectos. Hopefully they address that.
favoritekittykat yep lol. He's still probably dead tired from all this great content he's had to push out in a really short time. I'm just thankful we have someone like wp to do this lol.
The bounty system reminds me do the current events bandit system. You get a bounty (from bandits which is then "decoded" in DR), go to an area of the map and group up with players who got the same bounty and kill the bandit boss. Not complaining if that's the case with PoF bounties. These kinds of organised meta events are pretty good when everyone's waiting and knows what to do.
looking back at the start of unidentified gear - doing hearts that reset so you ahve to do them over and over, yeah nope i just need to right click use all to identify now and i dont do that and just salvage them - i would have never identified anything with that mechanic
I'm surprised you didn't address another big question: if we just double-click instead of identifying and then salvaging, will we still get essences of luck along with crafting materials? How helpful is it really if the population of the game still trying to get 300% MF has to identify everything anyway for the luck? It just adds in an extra step, in that case.
For identification systems to work, they have to offer interesting gear that's a bit above the average. If it just becomes another source of vendor/AH trash, then it is indeed busywork.
The Order of Shadows in PoF might have a place in the expansion. The first episode of LS3 was titled 'Out of the Shadows.' Coincidence? Hmmmmm. HmmmMMMMM.
since when? I have tailor crafting lvl 500 on another character. When in activate it on current character it still show my character with lvl 1 tailor crafting
Main 1 My bad, I misunderstood. Recipes are shared throughout your account, but actual crafting level still varies by character. That probably won't change as long as crafting gives xp.
You don't need HoT and it's not bundled in, but you get a discount if you buy both at once. That being said, the story of PoF is a continuation of Living World Season 3, and you need HoT to unlock LW3 as far as I know. You can play the PoF story without HoT, and there will probably be some kind of story recap at the start of it, but you will want to play HoT before PoF for the "full" story experience. ;)
Marco Bozic Your magic find took effect for you to acquire the drop in the first place. Magic find does not affect what stats your drop has, it only makes items drop more frequently.
yep, but if you dont have 300% yet, and you salvage these unidentified, you wont get any new mf (at least thats what i think), so you cant get to 300%. that is what i meant.
Hey WP! I know you have your own schedule for these types of things and I don't want to seem disrespectful in anyways but could you consider making the specialization videos next? I understand you're busy but I'd love to see your in depth review of the specs you have seen and have video of. I know you have spoken on them briefly but I mean I would like to see you go through the skill snippets the community has put together. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!
The ID system is something I've been saying gw2 should add for ages. Hopefully it will help streamline the bag opening/salvaging process. After HoT came out, it was one of the most frustrating areas of the game to me
Nightfall was my second favourite map from GW1 after Factions and this is already looking far better than HoT which I dislike. Looks like I need to pre-order this expansion.
I just don't see why we want greens and blues for anything other than salvaging anyway? Even if you want to identify stuff I don't see why they should program greens into it and just make it slightly better salvages? Perhaps non-special identified stuff makes it so you know how to get more mats out of them as opposed to hacking at it and destroying rare or nice stuff/ being inefficient.
WP what happened to build templates? As convenient as having unidentifed gear all stacked into one slot, it would still be nice to change profession build with a click of a button like the pvp version. Especially with the introduction of G2 elites and multiple build paths for each one, this seems pretty reasonable for me. This I find more rewarding than stacked loot but that's imo. Are they considering that too? Pretty excited for unidentified gear though.
Honestly i'm quite underhyped for this thing. Jungle and it's verticality was awesome breath of fresh air. Now it's way flatter and mounts - every game has these. On top of that desert - no way it can hold a candle to beauty and complexity of jungle. Now identification seems like convinience but little more. And bounties - i can already see tons of ppl going livid because their bounty got killed in 5s and not everyone is as fast as a thief to get there on time. Also wondering about these awesome rewards. We do have legendary weapons and armor now, so for a leggy user awesome reward can only mean "good looking" since fuctionality wise he already has best in slot, permanent.
To each their own, but generally speaking if you told most people you feel the jungle and its layers is a 'breath of fresh air' they would kick you off of a cliff. As for a desert not having the complexity of a jungle, does that mean every expansion should be about jungles? And because GW is behind on the times with no mounts, they should never make them? (They look ten times better than other games' mounts visually and functionally imo though.). Anyway, it's fine not to be hyped, but slightly strange points. Give it a chance.
Seems weird too me how much Arena is trying to throw back with the PoF stuff. Not that I hate it, but just seems kinda weird to do it now. Although I guess the "new" thing is mounts, and that's not a throw back (I don't think).
I don't think that we should rule our Menzes with the Order of Shadows. Think about it, Menzes is supposed to be locked in an eternal fight with Balthazar, right? And Balthazar seems to be the main antagonist now. Doesn't it make sense that Menzes' worshippers would want to help you beat Balthazar? It's something to think about :D
We already have a basic bounty system with the bandit contracts. This doesn't seem much different other than we're getting them from a board instead of from an npc for turning in an encoded order.
@ 5:05
Proof that you should probably get some sleep.
Omg
I'm not seeing the problem o.o
heart merchants -> heart of thorns merchants
lol that got me too. maybe I need sleep
It triggered me the second he said heart of thorns lol.
This is all I could gather on these two! More clarifications, if you guys have them, are welcome! PS, the Elite Spec video I mentioned isn't up just yet. I also have the two final interviews about to release back to back, covering seven more developers. Enjoy, guys! I'm working hard to get back to episode six content, promise.
EDIT:
Oh and there was also this mammoth upload to my second channel, if you guys want to watch or download and use in the big competition:
ua-cam.com/video/QKV-YKEHjvk/v-deo.html
One of the most appealing things about the footage of the new expac is seeing the armor all the npcs are wearing, hopefully we can wear these dope sets.
The daily Zaishen Bounties in GW1 sound very similar to this bounty system for PoF and WiK 'War in Kryta' actually has the Wanted which also has similarity.
The days on which aurora pechy gamplay appers on wp channel is the gameplay appears on wp channel is the greatest day of my life. Community comes together to scrape info out of gameplays !beautiful!
I liked what you said about the bounties being something new in game for people who don't raid, or do high level fractals. While I play a little bit more aggressively than my husband, except for dungeons, world bosses, or just pve roaming, (HoT maps or LS3 maps), there hasn't seemed to be a lot for us to do as of late. When we had the demo in the Oasis, he and I had a blast doing the bounties, raptor races, etc. He actually seemed excited to play the game, because it wasn't the usual routine we do normally. I can also tell you that he seemed to enjoy the demo map much more, than when we got HoT. For a long time, he hated those maps, because there wasn't much "breathing room" (meaning that a solo roamer had a more difficult time, because of all the mobs in the HoT maps and there weren't many "safe" spots to salvage, repair, etc.). We're both excited to see what Path of Fire has in store for us! Thanks for the video, WP. :)
Part of me instantly smiled when i saw you on that red raptor.
I was never bothered by inventory space while running through the world. It only becomes a bother when you have 4k dragonite or things like that sitting around and no option to sell it.
RenjiMaili not even in hot?
Sounds like someone never played Auric Basin
Sounds like you're still in Queensdale.
do you do silverwastes/hot metas/fractals? inventory fills up so fast it's stupid (of course I'm talking autoloot, but why wouldn't you autoloot?)
Also a note on repeatable hearts, have you noticed the Hero Challenges that give daily boxes are showing on the map as not completed every day.
Great video! I'm surprised just how much I'm looking forward to identification. Also, I'm saving those gems for the inevitable unlimited identification kit in the gem store (and more shared inventory slots).
Something about bounties I noticed on the free demon weekend. There are legendary bounties - Never got there though as the contract was finished before I got there (it appeared on the left board). and you can just select the bounty you want from your board; just select the piece of paper for it.
Not sure if any of this has been said before, thought I should put just in case.
Identification system only makes sense if items have randomization, such as in Path of Exile. However, they have a unique take on it, which I like.
One thing they could add is that if a different player does not have the bounty contract they cant summon or attack him and if they do have the contract and attack first you can join in to gain the same rewards. It should be like hero challenges but you need the contract to have credit/rewards.
Ronhar you mean guild bounties which work exactly as you're describing
Yeah... im not good with words lol
Do we know if they will implement this inventory saving mechanic in all maps or just expansion?
I really hope the pieces of unidentified gear are separated into rarities. Might be okay to salvage up to rare pieces, but it could be worth identifying exotic ones.
Archizzle i Just Read that they wil be seperate. But cant say for sure.
Don't be stupid I hope so!
I'm completely amazed that Anet lets us dye our mounts. That's just bonkers! :)
Speaking of bounty targets named after gw1 characters, there's one in Vabbi named Corps razr, that I wonder if my gw1 necro named Korpse Razor might have been the inspiration. Maybe I'm just being vein, but they're very similar
Can't believe it took me this long to get into GW2... but i also can't help but feel like now is the best time.
so is there a video going further into the identification stuff now? cuz i'm hooked.
Trade Contracts were also in faction in the Shing Jea Region
At the end you mentioned a video about elite spec collections? I can't find it on your channel or am I blind?
As someone with max bag slots, majority of them full of toys, tonics, consumables, and gear, while mono tooning PvE, making me always dread having to clear my inventory with the few 20 slot bags that already lost a few slots to keys... Identification makes me very happy. Fuuuuuuuck green runes and sigils.
Spices things up. Variety is always good. And gw2 needs more of this.
soo is this just replacing the bags of green/yellow gear we had with HOT events or will this also replace drops from enemies? cause it actually sounds like it's the same but now we need additional stuff to get the stuff
Which video talks about the elite spec collections? I must've completely missed it.
Already got a few of the unid pieces from some RNG bags/boxes. Will be interesting how these things will work out.
I really like the new coming bounty system and hopefully it allows people who prefer to roam and do world bosses more content :). As for the identification system anything that can decrease bag space and increase loot vale is a no brainer i am all for. Thanks for all the hard work WP
Will unidentified gear appear in other areas of the world? I imagine it wouldn't if the vendors are only in the PoF maps.
Branded in core maps just started dropping these. But i dont think it is intended.
It'd be a really handy feature to be in other areas of the game. I wish it was a purchasable kit rather than something only the merchant can do.
really hope it does, it doesn't fix the problem if its only on one set of maps.
Chris Beach It kinda fixes the problem if they continue to use the system in all future content
I hope there are different rarities of these items. If rarity doesnt come in until identifying, then either we will have to go identify everything which is worse for inventory wars or, if people just salvage, the rate of rares from ectos will go down because there will be fewer ectos. Hopefully they address that.
6:38 That's called Hanlon's Razor by the way.
I am now predicting someone doing one of those 1000 unidentified being identified or salvaged videos
8:15 did anyone else hear "inventory slops"?
favoritekittykat yep lol. He's still probably dead tired from all this great content he's had to push out in a really short time. I'm just thankful we have someone like wp to do this lol.
Yea, and I would assume he still has a shit ton to cover.
I cant find the video about the elite spec collections he mentioned in the end.
Now I really want a "Rogue Tomato" mini...
Dear god... decentish mount physics making them distinct from each other. That may have sold me already.
Will this system be in the core game? Or do we have to play infantry wars 2 when starting a new character?
A interested returning player
question with the unidentified gear will MAGIC FIND effect identifying the gear??!!?!?
Could the bounty system also just be a revamp/extension of the current open world Shining Blade bounties?
when I saw that mount I think I never geeked out as much as than
The bounty system reminds me do the current events bandit system.
You get a bounty (from bandits which is then "decoded" in DR), go to an area of the map and group up with players who got the same bounty and kill the bandit boss.
Not complaining if that's the case with PoF bounties. These kinds of organised meta events are pretty good when everyone's waiting and knows what to do.
"can also be identified at heart of thorns merchants across the crystal desert" 5:04
Edit: mentioned by John Lindner before me it seems
The Identification system is amazing! Best quality of life feature ever!
I really hope they push unid gear through the entire game.
So, instead of stacks of bags we get stacks of unid gear?
Seeing how hearts turned out being repeatable, i'm weirdly hoping they'd make some core tyria ones repeatable too.
But if you salvage unidentified gear you don't get the armour and weapon skins
Quick Note: Friend of mine got the green unidentified item from Shatterer
Thanks to aurorapeachy for makin all the view for wp's videos 👌
are mounts available for all maps? or only crystal desert
Khalil Najjar Open for all :3
with identification it could be like with salvaging kits where higher grade identification gives higher chances of rarer gear
webdud44 no not at all
How this video concluded without mention of Zaishen or Shining Blade bounties is beyond me.
looking back at the start of unidentified gear - doing hearts that reset so you ahve to do them over and over, yeah nope
i just need to right click use all to identify now and i dont do that and just salvage them - i would have never identified anything with that mechanic
Hey Wp will adventures be present in some form in PoF ?
yes they wil.
There was one at the 6.52 mark.
Hey so if the emperor of Cantha kicked out all the non humans how likely will it be to see races like tengu and yetis in elona?
I'm surprised you didn't address another big question: if we just double-click instead of identifying and then salvaging, will we still get essences of luck along with crafting materials? How helpful is it really if the population of the game still trying to get 300% MF has to identify everything anyway for the luck? It just adds in an extra step, in that case.
I agree but at the same time it all stacks up to 1 inventory slot until you are ready to "open" them as if they were loot bags.
The heart venders r a big part of the game. Identavieing at them gives u more reason to use them and do them.
Any chance they might implement bounties in core Tyria? Might make world boss hunting more interesting :P
For identification systems to work, they have to offer interesting gear that's a bit above the average. If it just becomes another source of vendor/AH trash, then it is indeed busywork.
Amante its les busywork. Did you watch the video?
I did. It was a general comment on identification systems.
The Order of Shadows in PoF might have a place in the expansion. The first episode of LS3 was titled 'Out of the Shadows.' Coincidence? Hmmmmm. HmmmMMMMM.
5:05
You said "Heart of Thorns merchants" instead of Heart merchants. xD
Remember the original beta? They had the same thing back then. Maybe it'll change and will only be on ptr?
Will they ever introduce account wide crafting? Trying to find which of my 10 characters have the recipe to craft stuff is annoying
That's been a thing for a while now.
since when? I have tailor crafting lvl 500 on another character. When in activate it on current character it still show my character with lvl 1 tailor crafting
Main 1 My bad, I misunderstood. Recipes are shared throughout your account, but actual crafting level still varies by character. That probably won't change as long as crafting gives xp.
do you need to buy heart of thrones or does it come free with path of fire
You don't need HoT and it's not bundled in, but you get a discount if you buy both at once. That being said, the story of PoF is a continuation of Living World Season 3, and you need HoT to unlock LW3 as far as I know. You can play the PoF story without HoT, and there will probably be some kind of story recap at the start of it, but you will want to play HoT before PoF for the "full" story experience. ;)
another problem with salvaging the unidentified things: you get no luck (right?)
Marco Bozic Your magic find took effect for you to acquire the drop in the first place. Magic find does not affect what stats your drop has, it only makes items drop more frequently.
yep, but if you dont have 300% yet, and you salvage these unidentified, you wont get any new mf (at least thats what i think), so you cant get to 300%. that is what i meant.
Hey WP! I know you have your own schedule for these types of things and I don't want to seem disrespectful in anyways but could you consider making the specialization videos next? I understand you're busy but I'd love to see your in depth review of the specs you have seen and have video of. I know you have spoken on them briefly but I mean I would like to see you go through the skill snippets the community has put together. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!
This will likely be after the demo stuff next weekend
WoodenPotatoes sounds good thanks I appreciate it!
Bounties sounds great! Direction! Specific items from specific sources! Hmmm...
At one point in the video you said people can steal your bounty. But playing the demo it looks like bounties are supposed to be group events
I just built a new PC after selling my previous one just to get back into GW. It Better not let me down. GW1 is hard to beat
people have issues with inventory space?
Also, you can dye your mounts. Woop!
i dyed mine many different colors during the demo. with the raptor it doesn't change the whole color just this pattern it has along the upper half.
OOO.....Saving up for my silver fed identify-o-matic!
Woo another video!!!
That ident system is pretty good!
The ID system is something I've been saying gw2 should add for ages. Hopefully it will help streamline the bag opening/salvaging process. After HoT came out, it was one of the most frustrating areas of the game to me
i assume after the first ep of the next season is covered you're going to hibernate (rightfully so)
what happend if we dont buy expansion?
I wonder how many people will name their raptor 'Drogon'...
Ja Nej Many, I believe.^^
Mine will be Jesus
NOOO, you just made public my best idea ever.
can you even name them? I didn't hear anybody mention anything like that
I will name him everest
Get it
Because hes a mount
Sorry
Nightfall was my second favourite map from GW1 after Factions and this is already looking far better than HoT which I dislike. Looks like I need to pre-order this expansion.
Are you able to dye mounts? O_O or am I just seeing things?
Jonathan Elliott mounts have dye areas just like certain gliders and armour, yes
You can dye mounts, yes.
Will i need to buy HoT to get PoF?
TheMelonbrew You can buy them separately. But I recommend buying both of them
If it ends up live 250 spot to UNID it will be MASSIVE for space.
PRETTY SURE they will add bounty boards to world bosses and other events in Core/Vanilla and HOT maps. I mean WHY NOT! :D
I just don't see why we want greens and blues for anything other than salvaging anyway?
Even if you want to identify stuff I don't see why they should program greens into it and just make it slightly better salvages?
Perhaps non-special identified stuff makes it so you know how to get more mats out of them as opposed to hacking at it and destroying rare or nice stuff/ being inefficient.
damn i hope they bring that identification stuff to wvw
Daily capped identifications by completing hearts would be the worst.
To be honest WP, I like getting the runes and sigil because selling them allow me to make my copper back from salvaging things.
Order of shadows npc? 🤔
WP what happened to build templates? As convenient as having unidentifed gear all stacked into one slot, it would still be nice to change profession build with a click of a button like the pvp version. Especially with the introduction of G2 elites and multiple build paths for each one, this seems pretty reasonable for me. This I find more rewarding than stacked loot but that's imo. Are they considering that too? Pretty excited for unidentified gear though.
Wait wait wait wait wait! Wait! Do I see Zaishen there? Do they finally bring the Zaishen back into the picture?
P@r@m3d!© yea they are evil followers of balthazar lol
Augary Rock pls, WTB GW2 version of doppleganger fight
is it me or does that order of shadows agent giving out those bounties looks awkwardly similar to order of whispers agents?
I should stop commeinting before finishing the vid ^-^
Honestly i'm quite underhyped for this thing. Jungle and it's verticality was awesome breath of fresh air. Now it's way flatter and mounts - every game has these. On top of that desert - no way it can hold a candle to beauty and complexity of jungle.
Now identification seems like convinience but little more. And bounties - i can already see tons of ppl going livid because their bounty got killed in 5s and not everyone is as fast as a thief to get there on time. Also wondering about these awesome rewards.
We do have legendary weapons and armor now, so for a leggy user awesome reward can only mean "good looking" since fuctionality wise he already has best in slot, permanent.
To each their own, but generally speaking if you told most people you feel the jungle and its layers is a 'breath of fresh air' they would kick you off of a cliff. As for a desert not having the complexity of a jungle, does that mean every expansion should be about jungles? And because GW is behind on the times with no mounts, they should never make them? (They look ten times better than other games' mounts visually and functionally imo though.). Anyway, it's fine not to be hyped, but slightly strange points. Give it a chance.
im enjoying all this content and i dont even play gw2
6:42 i died,adventures again...noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Why would a stupid cake merchant in divinitys reach know more about a item drop than me that she can identify it? Hmm?
JUst thought I say. I identified 2 of the items and got a rare from 1
@WP
With the unidentified fossilized insects from Dry Top we already have had an Identification mechanic for a long time in GW2 :)
NoL Chapron no you choose which one it is with that. So its a currency.
NoL Chapron Lol what are you smoking friendo
Seems weird too me how much Arena is trying to throw back with the PoF stuff. Not that I hate it, but just seems kinda weird to do it now. Although I guess the "new" thing is mounts, and that's not a throw back (I don't think).
I don't think that we should rule our Menzes with the Order of Shadows. Think about it, Menzes is supposed to be locked in an eternal fight with Balthazar, right? And Balthazar seems to be the main antagonist now. Doesn't it make sense that Menzes' worshippers would want to help you beat Balthazar? It's something to think about :D
7:33 Inventory wars 2 lol