Also the Hold the Line torch already stuck out , though its not as bad cause you have to sit on the campfire and cant just put it away, but im fine with both
@@rml4474 Torch is almost the opposite - you're never standing still while holding a torch, so blending in was never an option (you see a moving light-source it doesn't matter what colour it is) - but when you know your teammates' torch is one colour or the other and you see a moving flame of the wrong colour, it's a clear visual trigger.
@@LUKEALEANDER It lets you set your starting gear after death, and let's you re-equip starting gear without dying. So for example, when I die on my fighter, I start with a free longsword, crossbow, armor, frannies, 2 potions, a bandage, etc. (you unlock more and higher tier items by doing quests) It's more or less useless in HR, but it's great for noobs and playing Normals.
Insane vid! Last wipe we had +7 ALL which was locked behind bossing. Therefore 95% of the community if not more were never able to use it. Now it's widely available and everyone can use it.
But in both cases, it's bad for the game since low TTK gets even lower. They make the game less accessible for the average user with each update. And for some reason people celebrate the low TTK. People need to realize that games like this do not survive without a casual playerbase and Ironmace is doing almost everything they can to make the game unappealing to the casual player
@@anonanon8252History shows this to be true of games that hinder new player growth. When the sales drop far enough, the devs will be forced into monetizing the game in other ways, many of which tend to divide and upset people a great deal more. Also, above average players that believe themselves to be superior now, end up being fodder for the top 5% dominating everything. Eventually, you end up with a dead game full of sweaty whales dictating what constitutes fun. If new players can't get into the game and feel like they have a chance at progressing and improving, they'll bail and denounce the game as gate kept by sweaty no-lifer gamers. You might not like them, but the casual new player is the pipeline to keeping this game alive well into the future, if you push them out at a high enough percentage, the game will stagnate in growth, then decline rapidly. Everyone loses in the end.
@@anonanon8252 TTk got higher this wipe people just don't spec Into survivability unless they're a cleric or fighter. All builds are stronger including tanky builds.
yeah and 2 patchest before last wipe, we had this exact same shit, with +all on shit, and suddenly fighters and barbs could have 240+ HP with 40+ strength lmao. you guys are cooked, no one should be playing this wipe, every single person should boycott this wipe, wait until you see clerics who have wizard perks/spells and can instant cast heals/earthquake etc. absolutely cooked wipe i refuse to play it.
I still dont think the game is in a place to be released on other platforms, currently they have a dedicated player base that can and will test changes for them, whereas on Epic / Steam - if people have issues with the game at the start , then thats it they most likely wont come back. Should wait a full year IMO for a release on any other platform that isn't Blacksmith.
Great vid Spuddy, as usual. 1 suggestion for you. Start posting longer videos so there is always something to watch from you. Maybe like 24 hours a minute, 365 days a month for eternity? That should provide enough contents per minute! Thanks!
No dude. You are 100% right about forced rotation coming back. The game's hardly fresh from wipe and friends already got bored of nothing but crypts and since their interest is waning I get to be bored of goblin caves as well. The forced rotation kept things fresh and encouraged us to switch classes and builds for specific maps. It kept things fresh.
@@whopperwhopperjuniordouble Then u are just bored of the game lmao, it always have been like this until their attempt of map rotation... did u play the playtests? it was just 7 days of crypts 24/7 and no one got bored, they wanted morre... so if u are bord of crypts in 2 days go play another thing, u will be bored of every map in 6 days...
@@JamaRift i have 600h in the game i have kept playing it consistently played atleast 100h on every map im bored the map rotation atleast give me less boredom i have even played every character atleast 50h each the game only has so much to do on the solo map this wipe is the fastest ive gotten bored
Back at it again with another banger. I'm also surprised you didn't say anything about spell overload on Wizard. Love the content. Keep it up my brother!!!
Another idea I'd had for making the game less "caters to sweatlords": all rarities of gear have the same number of random modifiers, likely 3 per item. Base stats per rarity can be a little higher per tier of gear. The fundamental change would be the pool of rolls available for each rarity of gear. Green gear would have all possible rolls in the pool. Blue gear, you remove a few of the bad rolls from the pool, like interaction speed, buff/debuff bonus, etc. Purple gear, you remove a few more of the bad rolls from the pool. And so on and so on. This would allow them to make epic and legendary gear ACTUALLY feel that way since when that gear DOES drop you know you're getting a REALLY good piece because there are few/no bad random modifiers in the pool. But it also allows the casual player to get that amazing gear in blue and green form, it would just have slightly less base stats than its purple/orange/artifact counterparts, and be a lot rarer to receive since there are more (and worse) random modifiers in the pool. I wish they would experiment with this for a season.
I don't know if you already know but throwables like axes did get nerfed. They have an equip time now like crossbows. Bows also got this, so slayers like me can't hotswap to bow from windlass like before. Still doesn't stop a barb from having 12 axes ready at the beginning of the fight, but at least they do have to slow down considerably to reequip more
I just noticed the artwork at 10:18. Thats some REALLY cool looking shit. You could be making that lil fella your avatar and have him appear in future videos. Looks super cute
I LOVE +all attributes. Everyone can find gear, anyone can start in normals and find some good starter gear, move into hr comfortable or go straight to hr and find decent upgrades pretty quickly.
12:26 oh no that's also what happens in crypts too since they changed the circle timing a couple hotfixes ago. The one after they made just crypts available towards the end of last wipe. You now just spawn and have to start making your way to the circle or where you think its going to be becuase the first circle encompases the whole map. You have some time to loot as you go along but you really have to be aware of the circle over the course of the match. Because otherwise it's essentially chase the circle to be there towards the end or else you end up having to frantically find portals without being able to A. loot fights you won or B. fight at all at the end bc if you do, you all end up dying to zone. The only map this doesnt happen on currently is frozen caves because it got no changes other than a couple of statics removed. So the zone timing is fine.
Long term IM won't have a choice to do anything but map rotation, unless they never want to make a new map ever again. In my experience, trios want rotation the least and solos want it the most. If it were up to me: Solos: full map rotation, with either 3x3 or 4x4 GC Duos: full map rotation, with either 4x4 or 5x5 GC Trios: no map rotation until Frost Mountain is finished, providing a more comparable experience to Forgotten Castle.
They did add in equip times on all throwables now, so its not like an unending supply at your fingertips now, you get the six or possibly twelve you can fit and then you have to reload two by two at like two seconds each.
I really like the solo queue now. As someone who barely had any PVP experience in this game, I'm actually learning a lot about it now. Though I prefer the 10 min rotation system too.
idea, add weight to the throwing axes/knifes. Slow the nerds with the inventory of throwing bs to make it easier to hit. (im still salty about dieing to one before)
Honestly miss being able to do trio ice caverns and 5x5 goblin caves a 10 minute map rotation would be nice or just do free pick while we got 10k players
1. i do agree the 10 minute rotation would be so much better especially now that they're moving to epic 2. speaking of that "we didn't make the choice" comment tells me all i needed to hear; the higher ups took a money hat from epic so be ready for that exclusivity for a year 3. Gobolin cave....god what a mixed relationship, on the one hand it's chaos...on the other hand i'm a cleric and i haven't been able to get out more than 3 times. it actually reminded me that the meta hasn't changed in the slightest, that speed is king for every single class, no exception. 4. The Squire is dope, gives classes more variety, i hope they have him increase his inventory and the quality up to Whites as you complete quests for the other merchants....granting loading up as anything but the fastest is a terrible idea.. good news and changes, though i still wish they put more mechanics into the combat system so it's not just speed/kite meta as it's been for months. and yeah francs are still busted on the fact they hit so hard while haviing NO MOVEMENT DRAWBACKS unlike all us casters.
I think the current multi classing system is going to make end of wipe awful. You only get yo even use it if you play tons which will increase the end of wipe burnout since casual players will feel outpaced. It’s going to feel really shit when we start getting invisible barbarians and the like.
I pretty much agree with a lot of your points Spuddy but you forgot 1 negative THERES STILL CHINESE TEAMERS AND GOLD FARMER'S *Edit - Even got that nnds or whatever his name is banned from wipe day, teaming AGAIN
I gave my friend a free code and all his experience is is dealing with alot of mobs and running into two teams early game making it chaos. Just want him to clear rooms, loot n get out.
Based, I've been enjoying the heck out of the current wipe maybe just solely out of new content BUT I've had the same thoughts. Those dang throwing axes are ridiculous lol. I also hope for rotation to come back. Cheers!
I think the perfect solution is have trio crypts available 24/7 then rotate the rest. The biggest problem last wipe was the quests werent conducive to map rotation. Having to kill lich 15 times with rotation sucked because it took roughly 35 minutes to do all three levels and youd just miss the next trio crypts
I totally agree about map rotation, but the community will have a fit (the trio community) lol. I'd say leave trios in crypts and give solo/duo rotation I ran into a bis bard, cleric, fighter last night. They all had +8 all. I had epics with true and add. They took no dmg from direct fireballs and missles. It's def going to be a problem
Lack of map rotation is going to drive me away in a few weeks. The friends I play woth don't enjoy the game nearly as much as I do and drop out earlier in the wipe, leaving me to play solo. If I'm stuck facing duos or trios all wipe to get quests done, I'll just play something else
Map rotation is better (for solos at least rn) BUT, they have to adjust the portal count and not have easier maps or maps that have more loot. And that would take a lot of work in the current state. If people sit out maps on a regular basis it will negatively impact server performance, fun and que times.
Spuddy you hit the nail on the head--the first week of wipe is fun and then the issues with the game become exponentially revealed. Watched your stream today and you had the best idea I've heard: just have gear affect PVE. PVP is based on baseline stats so it can actually be balanced. There's simply too many variables for them to have base stats on gear, random modifiers, varying rarities--there's just no realistic way to balance that, it's the same issue with WoW PVP. Something is going to be insanely broken, and something is going to be borderline unplayable. It's a really bad way to design a game. The current system is bad. It makes the PVE boring because you just walk over it (or ignore it entirely and lock it behind a door). It makes the PVP frustrating because in most cases you either get steamrolled or it's you steamrolling someone else. It's very rare that a PVP battle falls somewhere in the middle. So if they made PVP just utilize baseline stats and values for each class, they could actually make the PVE difficult and balance gear around it. They could design maps with a PvE focus and allow the PVP to be an *element* of the game. Right now, it feels like the PvE is an element of the game, when it should be an important part of each dungeon, and the PVP is..... well, it's something.
Well written man, I doubt we'd see such fundamental changes though. It's a complete 180 for what they've been struggling to accomplish for ages. I hope something good comes of it.
One further thought: currently, dying in the dungeon is insanely punishing, since losing your gear weakens you in PVE but more importantly in PVP. You just lost a fight to someone, and now the next one will be even harder. Contrast this to a game where the gear only affects PVE: it's still fun to kill a player and take their gear because you can either use it to be stronger against monsters, or sell it. Looting gear is fun because you get stronger against the primary element of the dungeon, the PVE. Dying isn't as big of a deal because yeah, the monsters will take a little longer to kill, but your chances of killing another player are not decreasing every time you die. Gear changing hands is a GOOD THING in a game like this. But the current system only allows the strongest players to accumulate infinite wealth while the average player struggles to assemble a competitive kit, just dying to PVP again and again. It's a system that will only ensure that there is no casual playerbase for the game.
I think they should have a "ranged" slot. It holds arrows for rangers axes for barbs and knives for rogues and whatever for fighter. Then that ranged slot is the only place you can carry axes/knives and they only stack to like 3-4. No hoarding them in your inventory to hot swap them to your pocket slots
Yeah lack of map choice is likely to get a bit stale for me once my friends hop onto other games and I'm forced to mostly solo for the rest of the season, as they don't usually stick around for the full 3 months, hopefully activity does pick up so we can get a little more option or a map rotation again, I genuinely didn't mind the rotation that much Sorry my bad "ahem" HOW DARE YOU HAVE OPINIONS OF YOUR OWN! I will be taking this up with the reddit authorities!
They did some shenanigans to make the servers "feel" smooth. In reality what they actually did was just find out how to hide the rubberbanding behind massive desync. Watching playbacks and deathcams and seeing attacks go straight through people constantly and them being literally meters away from where you see them. Its actually way worse for the game health than the rubberbanding was and when people realize what is actually happening its not going to be good.
Idk much about epic or any controversy surrounding them but I know they released the unreal engine 5 free to use, make and sell your game with, and they only take a cut if your game profits over $1 million and even then it's a pretty fair cut (5%) so I respect them for that. It's invaluable for small/Indy dev teams like IronMace and countless others.
i think if iromace left +2 all in the game but just rewrote it to say on the piece "+2 vigor +2strength +2 dexterity +2 agility +2 will +2 knowledge +2 resourcefulness" it would be a lot more clear how outrageous it is to exist as a roll
solos are the majority of players.. why are they still shitting on them? like bro if i can only play goblin, i'm just not gona play the game. and yeah the ranged meta needs to go. its sooooo cringe when you're about to have a honorable melee fight with a melee class, and then all they do is throw shit at you whilst running away... love you spud. your vids are on point as always
So what im predicting here is a whole lot of pdr or magic dmg builds. With the new attributes on plate, and 2 all etc its easy to get insane pdr while still being insanely statted. Which means low hp phys dmg classes are in the gutter here. Which means warlock and wiz are needed in all comps late game. Warlocks have a waaay easier time getting their movespeed up, they profit the most by far from the extra addi/tru magic dmg they added and if everyone has more hp, the. Warlocks insta heal is waaay stronger all of the sudden. Which brings me to wizard. All attributes is insane for wiz for general stats. But more importantly u get so much knowledge and with that memory that u can run spell overload with 10 spells and just have double the spells at no real cost (cuz in bis ur gonna have that memory anyways) OR U just run arcane shield and ice shield, u build some armor and health and u can auto diff every class not running a shield cuz magic missile has the best dmg in the game. U can get loads of effective health this way so bis wizard is just gonna be tank wizard u can melee down...
Here's to hoping they use that data they kept showing off like it meant something. The seemingly constant whiplash of coddling outcries instead of looking at the health of the game in isolation of player trends, is the main reason I am still skeptical. Active playerbases are good and all, but the formula for the game has staggered so hard off of the playtests that it almost feels alien to play. The pitch of a medieval dungeon delver that becomes entrapped by the appeal of it's plunder is slowly becoming tarkov skyrim, so much so that I played quake champions instead just to get a feel for it again.
13:55 brother that one spawn where you open your spawn door and there is a goblin archer/bolaslinger to your right and a pdr fighter right infront of you with only a bat between you and him xD
ok let's be real though, the clip of you chasing the last guy around the square is exactly why "wizard op" and the ranged meta exists. melee classes have a very hard time approaching you, even if you have to cast your .5sec spells
If everyone in these clips just ran straight at Spud he would've been dead in 80% of these clips. Giving the Wizard space is exactly what the Wizard wants. Wizards are not Warlocks; getting within melee range is almost always a guaranteed kill.
did you know that you can sacrifice a bit of damage and pdr to run faster and catch up to them. you should watch skinny pete how to melee class without throwing.
personally, i absolutely hate goblin caves as a solo player. so, i'm having trouble starting since all i do is ice or crypts, but i die to most pvp there because obviously teams vs solo me
If there aren't enough players for a full selection system, then there needs to be at a minimum the dual system of partial rotation, partial selection. That way me and my team are never stuck with only a single map option. None of us want to play f**king goblin caves as a trio.
i really believe the +all is back simply because of multiclassing so say you can be a barbarian and with enough +all you can cast spells better, ya know?
I do find it hilarious that the devs have stated they want the PvP to have longer TTK, but go the opposite direction of that by making gear "rarer", buffing the damage stats and reintroducing +all attributes. (They also say they made gear rarer even though people are now pulling named items from gold piles, one of which is really easy to access in frost caves, and you can now stack a ton of luck through gear.) +all attributes is the definition of gear diff and we also have 10%+ armor pen/damage bonus on weapons, along with +4 additional damage on amulets. Yeah, you can now also build PDR/MDR to insane amounts (bards can basically hit the hard cap of PDR), but it's the same thing in a different way, leading to the same problem: Can skill realistically make up the difference between a player that will die in 3 hits, versus one that will die in 10 hits? Probably not. This along with changes to leveling and the introduction of multiclassing does not make me hopeful for the later stages of wipe. The differences between a generic full purple kit and a full purple with the best rolls is staggering. We're moving further away from having skill expression and it's even more gear oriented. People hated gold kits because it allowed people to easily make insanely optimized builds which usually rolled everyone they came across. We now have something stronger than that, but it's random to find. Regardless, once someone pieces the optimal build together, it's just gonna carry them in every fight except for when they meet their counter class. Then, depending on how multiclassing works, the difference between the "skilled" player and the player who just has way too much time on their hands will be unreasonable. I can't wait to get triple shot by a ranger with smite, or get shot with a crossbow from someone who has reckless attack and blow of corruption. How about a cleric with spell overload? 6 lesser heal, 4 sanctuary, 4 earthquakes, etc.
I stopped playing once they forced us to queue for a map depending on party size. Map rotation was the best and most fun. As always sweats ruin fun things for everyone else.
I wonder what would happen if someone was blocking and you put the explosion spell right on their shield and they dropped the shield on the ground like "HOT HOT HOT!" would the explosion still be on the player? or on the shield on the ground?
I still can’t play because of micro lag and stutter. Everyone says it’s a me issue but I see plenty of people with the same problem. I’ve just written the game off and won’t be reinstalling it. I will keep watching content!
As a solo player, rotation was great! But now that it's gone, I've had to go out of my comfort zone and make new friends just so I can play the maps that don't suck. Thanks for forcing me to be social and no just a murder-hobo, Ironmace...
BreakingInMan rreporting in with the famous question: "Hey Spuddy, what do you think about the new dakka 'n' dakka play?" I would like to see more gameplay with the finger blaster 3000. Finger bang, finger bang bang you!
The demigod reward is a joke, the cape looks like those glow in the dark space stickers slapped on a cape. I really hope they don't lean more on the BR side for this game. I was interested in the extraction looter part
Live streaming the grind over here if you're keen for a gander: www.twitch.tv/thespudhunter
Spudhunter can you please make a video about multiclassing on test server?
I agree on your pointers.
Maybe mate, will sus out@@NewbieGamersoRus
Blue camp fire don’t stick out on ice map. Winning.
TRUE
Also the Hold the Line torch already stuck out , though its not as bad cause you have to sit on the campfire and cant just put it away, but im fine with both
@@rml4474 Torch is almost the opposite - you're never standing still while holding a torch, so blending in was never an option (you see a moving light-source it doesn't matter what colour it is) - but when you know your teammates' torch is one colour or the other and you see a moving flame of the wrong colour, it's a clear visual trigger.
Finally, they added the most powerful move possible:
Kakashi secret forbidden jutsu: 1000 years of death!
My favorite part was saying "youre gonna love the squire" and then not talking about it at all and showing some random clip lol 😂
Same lmao. Still haven't figured out what the squire does.
@@LUKEALEANDER It lets you set your starting gear after death, and let's you re-equip starting gear without dying. So for example, when I die on my fighter, I start with a free longsword, crossbow, armor, frannies, 2 potions, a bandage, etc. (you unlock more and higher tier items by doing quests)
It's more or less useless in HR, but it's great for noobs and playing Normals.
No. 1 tip to new players, focus on doing the reputation quests to level up the gear to higher quality at your squire.
Love the editing on these vids
Cheers
Totally agree, I liked the map rotation. Great video, keep it up.
Thanks, will do!
Not the timed one tho that you had to wait for shit to open....the original rotation that forced you to play every map every 30 min. Kept it fresh.
@@johnnyflawlessexactly. solo caves, solo ice, then solo crypts and reapeat, that was brilliant imo. same for duos and trios.
Insane vid!
Last wipe we had +7 ALL which was locked behind bossing. Therefore 95% of the community if not more were never able to use it.
Now it's widely available and everyone can use it.
But in both cases, it's bad for the game since low TTK gets even lower. They make the game less accessible for the average user with each update. And for some reason people celebrate the low TTK. People need to realize that games like this do not survive without a casual playerbase and Ironmace is doing almost everything they can to make the game unappealing to the casual player
@@anonanon8252History shows this to be true of games that hinder new player growth. When the sales drop far enough, the devs will be forced into monetizing the game in other ways, many of which tend to divide and upset people a great deal more. Also, above average players that believe themselves to be superior now, end up being fodder for the top 5% dominating everything. Eventually, you end up with a dead game full of sweaty whales dictating what constitutes fun.
If new players can't get into the game and feel like they have a chance at progressing and improving, they'll bail and denounce the game as gate kept by sweaty no-lifer gamers. You might not like them, but the casual new player is the pipeline to keeping this game alive well into the future, if you push them out at a high enough percentage, the game will stagnate in growth, then decline rapidly. Everyone loses in the end.
@@anonanon8252 TTk got higher this wipe people just don't spec Into survivability unless they're a cleric or fighter. All builds are stronger including tanky builds.
yeah and 2 patchest before last wipe, we had this exact same shit, with +all on shit, and suddenly fighters and barbs could have 240+ HP with 40+ strength lmao.
you guys are cooked, no one should be playing this wipe, every single person should boycott this wipe, wait until you see clerics who have wizard perks/spells and can instant cast heals/earthquake etc.
absolutely cooked wipe i refuse to play it.
I still dont think the game is in a place to be released on other platforms, currently they have a dedicated player base that can and will test changes for them, whereas on Epic / Steam - if people have issues with the game at the start , then thats it they most likely wont come back.
Should wait a full year IMO for a release on any other platform that isn't Blacksmith.
Agreed with everything about GC. Awesome video as always. Thanks for the laughs my guy!
Rename to Omaha beach
Man i cant believe this guy microwaves kittens truly a evil man
Great vid Spuddy, as usual. 1 suggestion for you. Start posting longer videos so there is always something to watch from you. Maybe like 24 hours a minute, 365 days a month for eternity? That should provide enough contents per minute! Thanks!
Noted!
The part where the guy didn’t think you saw him was gold
No dude. You are 100% right about forced rotation coming back. The game's hardly fresh from wipe and friends already got bored of nothing but crypts and since their interest is waning I get to be bored of goblin caves as well. The forced rotation kept things fresh and encouraged us to switch classes and builds for specific maps. It kept things fresh.
Bro it's been like 2 days you guys got bored of maps in 2 days?
@@MatthewRBlanchardwell yeah since the only map trios can play is howling it gets really boring
@@whopperwhopperjuniordouble Then u are just bored of the game lmao, it always have been like this until their attempt of map rotation... did u play the playtests? it was just 7 days of crypts 24/7 and no one got bored, they wanted morre... so if u are bord of crypts in 2 days go play another thing, u will be bored of every map in 6 days...
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO GOD NO!
@@JamaRift i have 600h in the game i have kept playing it consistently played atleast 100h on every map im bored the map rotation atleast give me less boredom i have even played every character atleast 50h each the game only has so much to do on the solo map this wipe is the fastest ive gotten bored
Back at it again with another banger. I'm also surprised you didn't say anything about spell overload on Wizard. Love the content. Keep it up my brother!!!
I like it. Just need knowledge stacked for good use
I aspire to be a fraction as funny as you consistently are cheers dude!
Cheers, surround yourself with funny people 💪
Another idea I'd had for making the game less "caters to sweatlords": all rarities of gear have the same number of random modifiers, likely 3 per item. Base stats per rarity can be a little higher per tier of gear. The fundamental change would be the pool of rolls available for each rarity of gear. Green gear would have all possible rolls in the pool. Blue gear, you remove a few of the bad rolls from the pool, like interaction speed, buff/debuff bonus, etc. Purple gear, you remove a few more of the bad rolls from the pool. And so on and so on. This would allow them to make epic and legendary gear ACTUALLY feel that way since when that gear DOES drop you know you're getting a REALLY good piece because there are few/no bad random modifiers in the pool. But it also allows the casual player to get that amazing gear in blue and green form, it would just have slightly less base stats than its purple/orange/artifact counterparts, and be a lot rarer to receive since there are more (and worse) random modifiers in the pool. I wish they would experiment with this for a season.
Bad idea
Sounds good user-mz6tx6gg6h, who is assuredly a real human being operating a computer and not a bot @@Flasgk-x4b
This idea makes no sense, youre assuming too much about specific stats
@@Seeyeay okay, but instead of saying it’s a bad idea why don’t you explain specifically why?
@@anonanon8252No this is internet where everyone is wrong but ourselves aaaaand period.
I don't know if you already know but throwables like axes did get nerfed. They have an equip time now like crossbows. Bows also got this, so slayers like me can't hotswap to bow from windlass like before. Still doesn't stop a barb from having 12 axes ready at the beginning of the fight, but at least they do have to slow down considerably to reequip more
I just noticed the artwork at 10:18. Thats some REALLY cool looking shit. You could be making that lil fella your avatar and have him appear in future videos. Looks super cute
Holy. Kept watching, and man, the artwork in general is really good. Love to see it
Yeah my friend xous54 is a god tier artist. We're collaborating on future vids
I also really liked 14:52 it kinda caught me off guard and scared me at first, but in a good way 😂
I LOVE +all attributes. Everyone can find gear, anyone can start in normals and find some good starter gear, move into hr comfortable or go straight to hr and find decent upgrades pretty quickly.
Dude i couldn't agree with you more. You hit the nail on the head for every issue, they need to just hire you at this point.
12:42 i love the direct headshot with no hit-reg
12:26 oh no that's also what happens in crypts too since they changed the circle timing a couple hotfixes ago. The one after they made just crypts available towards the end of last wipe.
You now just spawn and have to start making your way to the circle or where you think its going to be becuase the first circle encompases the whole map. You have some time to loot as you go along but you really have to be aware of the circle over the course of the match. Because otherwise it's essentially chase the circle to be there towards the end or else you end up having to frantically find portals without being able to A. loot fights you won or B. fight at all at the end bc if you do, you all end up dying to zone.
The only map this doesnt happen on currently is frozen caves because it got no changes other than a couple of statics removed. So the zone timing is fine.
Long term IM won't have a choice to do anything but map rotation, unless they never want to make a new map ever again. In my experience, trios want rotation the least and solos want it the most. If it were up to me:
Solos: full map rotation, with either 3x3 or 4x4 GC
Duos: full map rotation, with either 4x4 or 5x5 GC
Trios: no map rotation until Frost Mountain is finished, providing a more comparable experience to Forgotten Castle.
Wrong
@@Flasgk-x4b why
They did add in equip times on all throwables now, so its not like an unending supply at your fingertips now, you get the six or possibly twelve you can fit and then you have to reload two by two at like two seconds each.
"The quests look like you can accomplish them now" *zooms in on in-compleable quest*
I really like the solo queue now. As someone who barely had any PVP experience in this game, I'm actually learning a lot about it now.
Though I prefer the 10 min rotation system too.
i'll have you know, good sir, that the more i hear you talk about cinematic techniques on stream the more i notice you use them in your vids. :D
:)
Glad to see you aren't letting the haters stop you. Your content is hilarious. Cheers mate.
Cheers
Calling crypts the fun map is the truest thing any human has ever dared to speak out loud.
Everytime I watch your videos I want to come back to Dark and Darker XD
I agree with you on the map rotation, as a solo I liked being able to play all the maps in solo lobbies. Hoping they’ll bring that back soon
idea, add weight to the throwing axes/knifes. Slow the nerds with the inventory of throwing bs to make it easier to hit. (im still salty about dieing to one before)
Honestly miss being able to do trio ice caverns and 5x5 goblin caves a 10 minute map rotation would be nice or just do free pick while we got 10k players
1. i do agree the 10 minute rotation would be so much better especially now that they're moving to epic
2. speaking of that "we didn't make the choice" comment tells me all i needed to hear; the higher ups took a money hat from epic so be ready for that exclusivity for a year
3. Gobolin cave....god what a mixed relationship, on the one hand it's chaos...on the other hand i'm a cleric and i haven't been able to get out more than 3 times. it actually reminded me that the meta hasn't changed in the slightest, that speed is king for every single class, no exception.
4. The Squire is dope, gives classes more variety, i hope they have him increase his inventory and the quality up to Whites as you complete quests for the other merchants....granting loading up as anything but the fastest is a terrible idea..
good news and changes, though i still wish they put more mechanics into the combat system so it's not just speed/kite meta as it's been for months. and yeah francs are still busted on the fact they hit so hard while haviing NO MOVEMENT DRAWBACKS unlike all us casters.
Literally every game ending 13:00 in the arena
I love you because even though I know this is work and that can be a pain in the ass, you love doing this work. I hope you blow up soon Spud
This wipe is so awesome! Having a blast on my Warlock that i didnt touch last season, and the new Perk is insane.
I think the current multi classing system is going to make end of wipe awful. You only get yo even use it if you play tons which will increase the end of wipe burnout since casual players will feel outpaced. It’s going to feel really shit when we start getting invisible barbarians and the like.
Best Dark and Darker content Creator ! Cheers !
I pretty much agree with a lot of your points Spuddy but you forgot 1 negative
THERES STILL CHINESE TEAMERS AND GOLD FARMER'S
*Edit - Even got that nnds or whatever his name is banned from wipe day, teaming AGAIN
I gave my friend a free code and all his experience is is dealing with alot of mobs and running into two teams early game making it chaos. Just want him to clear rooms, loot n get out.
Based, I've been enjoying the heck out of the current wipe maybe just solely out of new content BUT I've had the same thoughts. Those dang throwing axes are ridiculous lol. I also hope for rotation to come back. Cheers!
Cheers Boys! 🍻
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I miss map rotation too was nice being able to go to other maps as a solo without getting perpetually fucked into the dirt by trios or duos
I think the perfect solution is have trio crypts available 24/7 then rotate the rest. The biggest problem last wipe was the quests werent conducive to map rotation. Having to kill lich 15 times with rotation sucked because it took roughly 35 minutes to do all three levels and youd just miss the next trio crypts
Appreciation to the cocktail throwing skill residing in muscle memory
I totally agree about map rotation, but the community will have a fit (the trio community) lol. I'd say leave trios in crypts and give solo/duo rotation
I ran into a bis bard, cleric, fighter last night. They all had +8 all. I had epics with true and add. They took no dmg from direct fireballs and missles. It's def going to be a problem
Lack of map rotation is going to drive me away in a few weeks. The friends I play woth don't enjoy the game nearly as much as I do and drop out earlier in the wipe, leaving me to play solo. If I'm stuck facing duos or trios all wipe to get quests done, I'll just play something else
Dude same
Map rotation is better (for solos at least rn) BUT, they have to adjust the portal count and not have easier maps or maps that have more loot. And that would take a lot of work in the current state. If people sit out maps on a regular basis it will negatively impact server performance, fun and que times.
Your humor is exactly what this community needs
This season, player Count gonna drop rapidlY
Spuddy you hit the nail on the head--the first week of wipe is fun and then the issues with the game become exponentially revealed. Watched your stream today and you had the best idea I've heard: just have gear affect PVE. PVP is based on baseline stats so it can actually be balanced. There's simply too many variables for them to have base stats on gear, random modifiers, varying rarities--there's just no realistic way to balance that, it's the same issue with WoW PVP. Something is going to be insanely broken, and something is going to be borderline unplayable. It's a really bad way to design a game.
The current system is bad. It makes the PVE boring because you just walk over it (or ignore it entirely and lock it behind a door). It makes the PVP frustrating because in most cases you either get steamrolled or it's you steamrolling someone else. It's very rare that a PVP battle falls somewhere in the middle. So if they made PVP just utilize baseline stats and values for each class, they could actually make the PVE difficult and balance gear around it. They could design maps with a PvE focus and allow the PVP to be an *element* of the game. Right now, it feels like the PvE is an element of the game, when it should be an important part of each dungeon, and the PVP is..... well, it's something.
Well written man, I doubt we'd see such fundamental changes though. It's a complete 180 for what they've been struggling to accomplish for ages. I hope something good comes of it.
One further thought: currently, dying in the dungeon is insanely punishing, since losing your gear weakens you in PVE but more importantly in PVP. You just lost a fight to someone, and now the next one will be even harder.
Contrast this to a game where the gear only affects PVE: it's still fun to kill a player and take their gear because you can either use it to be stronger against monsters, or sell it. Looting gear is fun because you get stronger against the primary element of the dungeon, the PVE. Dying isn't as big of a deal because yeah, the monsters will take a little longer to kill, but your chances of killing another player are not decreasing every time you die.
Gear changing hands is a GOOD THING in a game like this. But the current system only allows the strongest players to accumulate infinite wealth while the average player struggles to assemble a competitive kit, just dying to PVP again and again. It's a system that will only ensure that there is no casual playerbase for the game.
Waking up at 6am to find a spuddy video?? Day's already looking bright and brighter ✨️
I think they should have a "ranged" slot. It holds arrows for rangers axes for barbs and knives for rogues and whatever for fighter. Then that ranged slot is the only place you can carry axes/knives and they only stack to like 3-4. No hoarding them in your inventory to hot swap them to your pocket slots
As a solo player, I agree with map rotation
I think the perfect solution is map rotation but leave trio crypts accessible 24/7
I personally won’t be playing solos until rotation comes back, I’ve never liked goblin caves
glad to have you back in the dungeons friend
We love ya spud, everything you said is on point
Yeah lack of map choice is likely to get a bit stale for me once my friends hop onto other games and I'm forced to mostly solo for the rest of the season, as they don't usually stick around for the full 3 months, hopefully activity does pick up so we can get a little more option or a map rotation again, I genuinely didn't mind the rotation that much
Sorry my bad "ahem" HOW DARE YOU HAVE OPINIONS OF YOUR OWN! I will be taking this up with the reddit authorities!
I think a rotation would be nice. But also 5x5 Gobo caves was just so dam good and way nicer than the gobo caves we have now. I miss the 5x5 alot lol
They did some shenanigans to make the servers "feel" smooth. In reality what they actually did was just find out how to hide the rubberbanding behind massive desync. Watching playbacks and deathcams and seeing attacks go straight through people constantly and them being literally meters away from where you see them. Its actually way worse for the game health than the rubberbanding was and when people realize what is actually happening its not going to be good.
Im with you fella. Bring back Rotations! 🙌🔥✨
Idk much about epic or any controversy surrounding them but I know they released the unreal engine 5 free to use, make and sell your game with, and they only take a cut if your game profits over $1 million and even then it's a pretty fair cut (5%) so I respect them for that. It's invaluable for small/Indy dev teams like IronMace and countless others.
i think if iromace left +2 all in the game but just rewrote it to say on the piece "+2 vigor +2strength +2 dexterity +2 agility +2 will +2 knowledge +2 resourcefulness" it would be a lot more clear how outrageous it is to exist as a roll
solos are the majority of players.. why are they still shitting on them? like bro if i can only play goblin, i'm just not gona play the game.
and yeah the ranged meta needs to go. its sooooo cringe when you're about to have a honorable melee fight with a melee class, and then all they do is throw shit at you whilst running away...
love you spud. your vids are on point as always
So what im predicting here is a whole lot of pdr or magic dmg builds.
With the new attributes on plate, and 2 all etc its easy to get insane pdr while still being insanely statted.
Which means low hp phys dmg classes are in the gutter here.
Which means warlock and wiz are needed in all comps late game.
Warlocks have a waaay easier time getting their movespeed up, they profit the most by far from the extra addi/tru magic dmg they added and if everyone has more hp, the. Warlocks insta heal is waaay stronger all of the sudden.
Which brings me to wizard.
All attributes is insane for wiz for general stats.
But more importantly u get so much knowledge and with that memory that u can run spell overload with 10 spells and just have double the spells at no real cost (cuz in bis ur gonna have that memory anyways)
OR
U just run arcane shield and ice shield, u build some armor and health and u can auto diff every class not running a shield cuz magic missile has the best dmg in the game.
U can get loads of effective health this way so bis wizard is just gonna be tank wizard u can melee down...
Here's to hoping they use that data they kept showing off like it meant something. The seemingly constant whiplash of coddling outcries instead of looking at the health of the game in isolation of player trends, is the main reason I am still skeptical. Active playerbases are good and all, but the formula for the game has staggered so hard off of the playtests that it almost feels alien to play. The pitch of a medieval dungeon delver that becomes entrapped by the appeal of it's plunder is slowly becoming tarkov skyrim, so much so that I played quake champions instead just to get a feel for it again.
Love you spud 🤣 always true to the comedian side and the wholesome game “reviewer”
13:55 brother that one spawn where you open your spawn door and there is a goblin archer/bolaslinger to your right and a pdr fighter right infront of you with only a bat between you and him xD
GOATed video
ok let's be real though, the clip of you chasing the last guy around the square is exactly why "wizard op" and the ranged meta exists.
melee classes have a very hard time approaching you, even if you have to cast your .5sec spells
If everyone in these clips just ran straight at Spud he would've been dead in 80% of these clips. Giving the Wizard space is exactly what the Wizard wants.
Wizards are not Warlocks; getting within melee range is almost always a guaranteed kill.
did you know that you can sacrifice a bit of damage and pdr to run faster and catch up to them. you should watch skinny pete how to melee class without throwing.
bro the dude sitting on the ledge hahahaha 7:35
I agree with rotation, I don't think free choice will work yet with population yet. But there's a lot of good shit this wipe so far.
I can already see a meta barb with vigor +all + health and overheal cleric late game........ It's gonna happen.
personally, i absolutely hate goblin caves as a solo player. so, i'm having trouble starting since all i do is ice or crypts, but i die to most pvp there because obviously teams vs solo me
I love the open map with the wisps thats my favorite map. I want it back.
I wish everyone would use the gathering hall rather than asking for map rotation. It's actually really good.
I dont even want to play this game anymore and im still watching your vids spud. Cant wait for the CPM channel to pick up.
Cheers. Soon tm brother
If there aren't enough players for a full selection system, then there needs to be at a minimum the dual system of partial rotation, partial selection. That way me and my team are never stuck with only a single map option. None of us want to play f**king goblin caves as a trio.
The map rotation swapped every 30 mins on NA West, would love to see it be back with queue swaps every 5-10 mins
hey get the suggestion to them that you can't strafe whilst throwing an axe, only go forwards and backwards
i really believe the +all is back simply because of multiclassing so say you can be a barbarian and with enough +all you can cast spells better, ya know?
If spuddy says the game is good rn that makes me happy. Can't wait to start my wipe tomorrow
I do find it hilarious that the devs have stated they want the PvP to have longer TTK, but go the opposite direction of that by making gear "rarer", buffing the damage stats and reintroducing +all attributes. (They also say they made gear rarer even though people are now pulling named items from gold piles, one of which is really easy to access in frost caves, and you can now stack a ton of luck through gear.) +all attributes is the definition of gear diff and we also have 10%+ armor pen/damage bonus on weapons, along with +4 additional damage on amulets. Yeah, you can now also build PDR/MDR to insane amounts (bards can basically hit the hard cap of PDR), but it's the same thing in a different way, leading to the same problem: Can skill realistically make up the difference between a player that will die in 3 hits, versus one that will die in 10 hits? Probably not.
This along with changes to leveling and the introduction of multiclassing does not make me hopeful for the later stages of wipe. The differences between a generic full purple kit and a full purple with the best rolls is staggering. We're moving further away from having skill expression and it's even more gear oriented. People hated gold kits because it allowed people to easily make insanely optimized builds which usually rolled everyone they came across. We now have something stronger than that, but it's random to find. Regardless, once someone pieces the optimal build together, it's just gonna carry them in every fight except for when they meet their counter class. Then, depending on how multiclassing works, the difference between the "skilled" player and the player who just has way too much time on their hands will be unreasonable. I can't wait to get triple shot by a ranger with smite, or get shot with a crossbow from someone who has reckless attack and blow of corruption. How about a cleric with spell overload? 6 lesser heal, 4 sanctuary, 4 earthquakes, etc.
so with the epic games release does that mean that blacksmith players can play with people playing the game on epic games?
I stopped playing once they forced us to queue for a map depending on party size. Map rotation was the best and most fun. As always sweats ruin fun things for everyone else.
This update definitely feels good to play. I just hope my casual buds will give it a go..
I wonder what would happen if someone was blocking and you put the explosion spell right on their shield and they dropped the shield on the ground like "HOT HOT HOT!" would the explosion still be on the player? or on the shield on the ground?
Map rotation for the win spuddy, I agree with you
Throwing axes should NOT slow when being hit by one
Guys, we need to get the kittens out of Spuddy's microwave stat!
I still can’t play because of micro lag and stutter. Everyone says it’s a me issue but I see plenty of people with the same problem. I’ve just written the game off and won’t be reinstalling it. I will keep watching content!
Bro OCE servers are actually A L I V E again I am so stoked!
As a solo player, rotation was great! But now that it's gone, I've had to go out of my comfort zone and make new friends just so I can play the maps that don't suck. Thanks for forcing me to be social and no just a murder-hobo, Ironmace...
This is the content I need in my life
BreakingInMan rreporting in with the famous question: "Hey Spuddy, what do you think about the new dakka 'n' dakka play?" I would like to see more gameplay with the finger blaster 3000. Finger bang, finger bang bang you!
Haha, more soon as rogue 😂
Tbh map rotations would be a good thing to have if, like, they were only available on weekends or something.
The demigod reward is a joke, the cape looks like those glow in the dark space stickers slapped on a cape. I really hope they don't lean more on the BR side for this game. I was interested in the extraction looter part
I liked rotations more too but they just need more similarity in gameplay between the different maps