Not here to argue but to share something someone may find interesting. The reason why beerus is a Sphynx cat, is because that's the breed of cats that Akira Toriyama owns. A lot of people were saying things like "he's a sphynx because they're widely worshipped". like wot. I worship my hamster but he aint no god :/
Well he would have been an older teenager or have just turned twenty at the point this was uploaded. I'm getting conflicting information saying he's anywhere from 25 to 33 right now. If it's the former he would have been 17 at the time and this would be very on brand for a teenager and if it's the latter I can still see a college age guy getting drunk and saying this about his favorite show.
I'm still not used to the "new and revamped" style of DBZ that is supposed to fit to what Anime looks like nowadays. I really truly do prefer the old art style with less shines and details. Haha,Dragon Ball's probably the only anime I like being old school styled.
yea im probably not going to watch super ever havent yet for the resons in the video and what you said its way to polished ill stick to the manga and watch episondes through boo saga in dbz . and SCREW GT it is just wrong on so many levels
My main issue isn't even the ugly drawing, but the uninspired battles. Remember when Vegeta kneed Barta (burter, w/e) in the throat, killing him instantly? How about Future Trunks' awesome sword attacks then blast on Mecha Frieza? And who can forget Goku's fight with Tien in the original DB? The point is, all of these battles had characters at different stages of powers fighting, and still managed to be awesome because the fight choreography was simply fun to watch. Especially in the original DB, there was much more martial arts involved, making battles more than just shooting a million ki balls with the same animation frames over and over. Now you watch that Goku fight vs Beerus and it's garbage. Not just because Goku looks ugly as sin, but because this is suppose to be Goku after a lifetime of adventures, decades of training, and almost at the height of his power, and THIS is how he fights? He just kind of runs over to him and tries to kick him once or twice? What happened to fucking tactics? Figuring out how to attack from unique angles? It's like they don't even have respect for the cunning side of Goku's character anymore. It's the same exact damn thing that happens in every shounen that goes the distance, the main character just learns a new form that gives them a new skin for some cosplay and a new mega fireball. Why even make a series about fighting and getting stronger if you have nothing to say about these things anymore??? Just make it a slice of life anime and stop having serious battles, at least that might be funny.
Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's completely disappointed in the fight scenes in Super. To me, it's like watching 2 stiff kick boxers trying to punch each other while being awkwardly lifted in the air
i watched the fight between Majin Vegeta and and Goku today and i wasn't bored at all. The thing is, the fights in DB/ DBz, even when the characters weren't fighting, you still felt interested and knew something was going to happen. The conversations they have actually contribute a little to the fight and the filler in between doesn't distract from the fight as much as it has you waiting. They give you the right amount of action and leave you set waiting for more. In Super, an episode is like, 2 or 3 punches and then meaningless dialogue talking about how they're the same and how their sorry but they're about to go all out and then you have to wait another episode to see it happen. That's not entertaining. That's not a cliff hanger and it's not the kind of anxiousness you want to feel. In DB/ DBz, the anxiousness was the one you got from knowing: (Kevin Hart: and i quote-) "Its About To Go Down!!!!" (end quote-) and waiting to see it happen. In Super, you're just waiting for someone to throw another damn punch and move on. You know Goku's not gonna die and no one is in any real danger so you're less invested in what goes on. It took the worse qualities of the franchise and just multiplied them: (and i quote-) "Over 9000" (end quote-) times. (I know this is an exaggeration but Super deserves it)
you would definitely find this problem in the universe 6 arc. That's where I stopped watching. The fights were sk short and boring. The only good one was Goku vs Hit. That's it. Everything else was just repetitive, boring nonsense
DBZ fights are the same shit. You guys are blinded by nostlagia and that's it. DBZ is mostly garbage. Sure, there are few good fights, moments but that's it. Like people love Buu Saga and hate Super are wierd - there is no difference.
@@e.t.1947 I don't see how it is useful to literally go out of your way to ruin the image of a franchise and make your own stupid spin on it while claiming that a parody does it better than the original source material. And why are you talking to me in third person yet you are replying to me. Haha You are so funny guy. (Not)
Dang, sucks how none of his "anatomy of anime" videos aren't his most viewed. They're extremely high quality, and I think deserve to be his most viewed videos.
The load of hate on this video really annoys me. This man points out bad animation, and all people talk about is the music he used, his "cringe worthy" commentary, and how he's wrong? Really? The DB community is full of people who act like they'll die if they don't defend Supers clearly bad animation. So I'm almost 100% sure all the hate is just from people who don't have a problem with the animation. Leave this guy alone, really. The hate is unnecessary. Can't handle opinions? Why bother with being on the Internet in the first place?
Seems you can't handle opinions of others as well. I love DBZ and agree with the horrible animations but if I wanted to hear someone sound immature and annoying, I would watch a kid youtuber.
+Henry Cunningham I was waiting for a reply like this. My problem isn't with opinions, it's with people trying to put this guy down just because they disagree. There's no need for people to be as rude as they are. :/
+Two Scoops But everyone is different, and to himself, he may think his presentation is comical. Constant bashing on what he wants to do is absolutely unnecessary. It's hard enough trying to make it big on UA-cam, the last thing people need is constant hate just because he wasn't as funny as someone bigger. I don't know you, but if I were to go to your channel and just say "you're shit" Because you didn't make me laugh, you wouldn't think that was uncalled for?
+TFF421 were grown adults we should not be treating UA-camrs like children and telling them there's nothing wrong with their video when there is. considering how much money UA-camrs make now your basically saying we should just not give any negative feedback to someone's product and give them money for shit quality. if you had a mechanic fix your car and they made it even worse you wouldn't be like oh well I still think you did a good job man here have money
HoshiHearts RetroGaming I've watched it because it's more DB for me to watch. The show was over a year before I was born so I take as much as I can get before it's done again.
It's really funny going back to a youtuber's first videos years after they improved their craft and realizing how terrible those videos you watched so long ago were
Gohans face not looking "on model" is a just criticism I think. There was plenty of opportunity for me to make this video as depressing and realistic as possible but I opted for lighthearted. I still love the series.
Oni Master In all honesty, I found his commentary to be hilarious. His bit about Gohan's creepy face had me bursting out in laughter. Around 4:27 the fight choreography was far too simplistic for a Dragon Ball series. Furthermore, the artwork is horrible.
Ash Ketchum As someone already mentioned, the Golden Freeza arch looked terrible. The Universe 6 tournament also had some of the most atrocious artwork and the animation failed to live up to the traditional Dragon Ball Z slandered. However, Episode 39 of Dragon Ball Super was incredible. It featured Goku going Super Kaioken against Hit. Goku's punches and kicks looked so DBZ like. The artwork and animation was also great.
these videos with people talking about animation is cancer. for one you pause during in between frames and you have no clear knowledge of how key framing works. im an animator and man do you have many things wrong in this video. not to mention you never really pointed out any major problems in how fluent the animation moves as whole which is the main goal when animating. how is the gohan face a major error??!?!?! I even saw some people say that db gt had better animation ?!?!?!!? dbgt contained soo much limited animation its fight scenes were barely fight scenes. the closest they got to action in db gt was looping punches or recycling the same scene over and over again. db gt had way too many still frames in the show as a whole and when they moved it was very choppy. and zooming into a shot from a distance is really really dumb, almost as dumb as pausing during an action sequence. and episode 5 was never really animated bad, it just had really bad artwork.
I took issue with gohans face as it was "off model". i do know more than the average bear about animation also. so as a person who does animation you should realise the importance of doing things on model. also I do love the series. just because I love it shouldn't mean I shouldn't criticise it. I was trying to make this a light hearted video as others have done the serious take on things. for number 3 I took things more seriously. all that said thank you for your criticism and I'll work harder towards the next one to imp t over upon this.
Totally Not Mark considering this was a problem in dbz constantly I dont get why its getting attention now. makeagif.com/i/_zaaze makeagif.com/i/wYN2eQ makeagif.com/i/xxa6Ez in fact the animation was alot worse and lazier half the time in dbz. they just loop frames or move camera angles with out any real movement.
+dudleypunch101 I think why this is getting more attention is due to the fact that gohan and dragon ball supers animation problems seem to be in the foreground and are the main focus of the scene in question. I've been accused of being very picky but in truth when making this video I just watched each episode as normal and found issues that way without going frame by frame. that's not to say dbz didn't have issues. it did. and had lots of them but perhaps it's the clean digital work of dbs that makes things pop out more. but in reality I think it's just that they are as I said at the beginning of the video. a young animation team struggling with an impossible workload.
There's no excuse for why the Animation is this bad. Toei produces the most profitable Animes in the world. The merchandise money it makes alone should cover it. There should be no budget problems. Newbie Animators should be put on the less popular shows that nobody really cares about. If time is that much of a struggle make the show bi-weekly or even seasonal so the animators don't kill themselves every week. It should be animated at their studio in Japan and not their studio in the Philippines. I'm not sure if Toei is just stupid or just doesn't care. Even Toriyama called them out for their shit and they still don't care. The fans need to take off their nastolgia glasses and see this piece of shit for what it is. Before you say it, the DVD fixes don't look that great either. I'm not begging for it to be movie quality but seriously I've seen fan animations from 2008 that look better.
Ultimate Spoopynator I'm not fucking ungrateful, at least I actually enjoy and don't complain when they make an episode dumbass. Toei himself even said they have a LIMITED time to make an episode, aka 2 to 1 week.
Ultimate Spoopynator Because the people are doing this stuff for our entertainment, they are trying to make us, the viewers happy. They don't have too, but they do. And people like you complain how it should be like this or that
Super Luffy it's probably not the animation itself. I'm sure they still use live action reference material for the most of the action sequences. If anything's to blame, it's shitty choreography.
Brandon Colin, lol fake ass fan. IT kamehameha is one of the most famous kamehameha's from Goku vs Cell and it was one of the most awesome fights in DBZ
Uzi Vert, fuck you bitch. That's like saying Goku is an earthling or not knowing Vegeta's name so he indeed is a fake ass fan like your ass is fucktard
You're fucking stupid they don't make these things once a week they make a batch of episodes and they slowly release them over the course of weeks Baka
cenasux115 Dude, if you look at even the highest rated films and animation, you'll find quirks like this. The fact is, not every animator on the Dragon Ball Super team have exactly the same skill level. Each animator is assigned a few scenes to animate, and those scenes reflect the work of that particular animator after drawing hundreds upon hundreds of frames for hours. You've no idea how hard these people work to put out content unless you've animated yourself.
Sierra Davis Stop defending these companies, DBZ had a lower budget than Dragon Ball super and they didn't have the advanced technology we have nowadays and still DBZ managed to look a lot better than super, specially in the buu saga. There's no excuses for the latest anime looking a lot worse than previous one, it should at least look on par with the Buu saga.
1:19: Nice Vegeta impression. 1:33: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Krillin not that much shorter than Vegeta in the earlier show? 1:53: I'm ok with Gohan being a salary man as a plot point and then him paying for it and realizing he has to train, but BOG and ROF really confused me on Gohan's abilities. 3:05: Why is everybody except Videl drawn so weirdly? 3:18: He looks like a Looney Tunes character.3:55: Piccolo's my fav, but I like Goku too. Wish Super didn't kiss his feet so much though. 4:48: Didn't know becoming a Super Saiyan God turns you into a Pop Figure. 5:04: I think repeats are fine, as long as you don't do it too often and that the repeats aren't long ones, which these ones apparently are. I had fun seeing this video. Would you be doing worst animated moments for all the arcs in Super? If so, to balance that, you think you could do best animated moments as well?
I'm currently working on the next video as we speak. best animated of this arc. and I'll be doing the same for all the arcs yes ;) glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for such a comprehensive comment man!
Totally Not Mark Nice. Thanks for replying. Do you think you'll be talking about the plot, how it's utilized, and how the characters are treated as well at some point, considering Super's considerably controversial use of all 3?
+TimeTellsNoLies90 in the future I plan to do detailed arc breakdowns as well as comparisons between the series first two arcs and their movies. which is better and why. I have a lot of dragon ball content ideas for the future :)
Totally Not Mark Sweet. I've not seen Super yet, as I'm waiting for the Dub, but I've been thinking on starting it earlier. I'm not sure when I'll watch those, but good luck with them.
he also doesnt have a job as a professional animator. thats like me getting mad at my auto technician for fucking up my car and then some jack ass come along and say " and yet its still a better job than you can do "
Oh, also: "...you could ever do...". Don't say that to people, because it's not true. Artists aren't just magically good at art or "talented" or "gifted", it literally takes years and years of practice to become a pro, and a decade+ to be a master, but literally anyone can become one, even you and the guy who posted this video.
What do you mean "to nitpicky"? Are you serious?? The entire dragon ball and anime community has a meltdown over this GOD AWFUL animation and you think he's being nitpicky?? get over yourself bud
nitpicky? Millions of dollars were spend by people to watch this animated shit. No feels like in old dbz movies, vegeta has no fucking spirit and gives up? Everyone looks like a skinny bitch, lame story and a weak looking enemy with no intimidation factor. Dbs is shit
That's not quite how genetics work. I mean, Gohan/Goten/Trunks could very well be 50% Saiyan, but there is no guarantee since we don't actually know anything about linked genes or if any of the Saiyan genes are dominant or recessive.
The major problem with the last part of the video is that toei animators are so rushed to make episodes that sometimes they finish it only a few hours before it airs. Amateur animators can spend an entire week on reproducing that very scene. So one week to make a 5 minutes scene (supposing that the person spent only one week on it) vs one week to make an entire episode. Yes there are multiples animators working on one episode. Just remember that these guys often work on 2 to 3 series at the same time. Easy to accuse the animators when it's the very toei animation system ( and management) that should be shamed.
mrbadassanime | The God of the Wired Wrong, very good looking animes aren't made one week for the next one, they're made monthes in advance and then aired one after the other, your argument is invalid.
thats your win. i couldn't stand it after just 30 seconds. my mothers language is german but i know if something is funny or just useless crying. fuck the Animation and the sounds. they can fix them for rthe DVD Version. whats wrong with u Kids? i think most of you are pokemon go Player and hillary fans. disgusting
6:21 #11 Bad backgrounds and structures. How did we go from beautiful forestry, city landscapes, open terrain DURING fights, other planets, spaces, etc, to that awful looking cruise ship? It looks like a paper model.
Jesus Christ everyone's a critic on here, I happened to click and watch this video, found it alright, good energy, okay points, then I look then at the comment section and whoa everyone wants to become a UA-cam critic. If you don't enjoy this persons content people, move on, watch others, don't shit on his hopes and dreams of becoming a content creator, just shows how small you people are as viewers.
Yeah I can see that, I just felt like something had to be said, probs won't do much because as long as he uploads the top ten worst vids, he'll still get hate. Oh well that's fanboys for ya, can't take critism. :)
lol but he's criticizing the show is he not? So by your logic if he doesn't like some of the animation he should just move on and not make a video about it. Most of the people that are posting "hate comments" are mostly criticizing him. Some criticisms are harsher than others, but they're still criticisms, just like how he's criticizing the animations. It's what the comment section is meant for, feedback, opinions, and criticisms.
Using the "don't like it, don't watch it or move on" argument kinda deflaw's your argument there. People in this comment section are trying to give criticisms to this guy. Using this type of argument completely destroys the purpose of taking criticism.
I think it looks like a left hand due to how this scene was animated. You can clearly tell that the line that is suppose to be drawn throughout the middle of the hand is missing on the "other left hand" that Vegeta supposivley has. This means that the hand was suppose to look like it was pointed toward beerus but in a actuality, it just looks like an optical illusion
This video was on point! Soooo damn funny but also hit on all these scenes that left me wondering what the hell was going on with the animation. Way better video than other ones where the narrator just bitches and talks as if he himself is a professional animator.
Comments jokingly said they blew all their budget on episode 109-110 of Super (where Goku goes Ultra Instinct Vs. Jiren). And the improvement in animation and effects, while noticeable around that arc, are STILL INFERIOR to the plain old DBZ series. In Kai (or whatever their so-called remastered version is called) they desaturated colors and made everyone all shiny, like they're made of rubber or, indeed, plastic. And they continued with that trend in Super. Bodies are also less detailed and everyone shrank and got scrawnier, also. What's their excuse for all of that? Or have they become truly so lazy that they sincerely believe it's all good?
Well, it doesn't really matter where it started and what with. It needs to stop. But, I know that's being unreasonable. It's far too late for them to go back to the old animation style, now.
gt had terrible story, your on crack lmao. ss4 was the only thing good out of that abomination. I didn't even like that shit as a kid... that's when you know there's a problem
Gt had bull shit story lines, yes the animation had no mistakes in gt but doesn't make it better, but super has better art, super had way better music, an it's cannon
There's more than just the line. it spikes out a bit and upon impact it it spreads over half the screen. When the other one hits, it comes so suddenly and it goes away just as fast with no style.
3nderoX Budget isn't the main reason, they announced DBS right after Resurrection of F Movie too early and they planned it too early so everything falled apart.
maybe krillin gets shorter every time he dies
Ghoulish Gamer underrated comment hahaha
Ayaan Aslam grrrr
Well there goes krillin in dB foreber
Maybe just maybe
He'd be negative
Gohan laughs after he fails to attack Beerus because his strength is a joke.
Crappy turd the whole franchise is a joke.
More hair = more power.
New hairstyle = transformation
God of destruction = a fucking cat
Not here to argue but to share something someone may find interesting. The reason why beerus is a Sphynx cat, is because that's the breed of cats that Akira Toriyama owns. A lot of people were saying things like "he's a sphynx because they're widely worshipped". like wot. I worship my hamster but he aint no god :/
the bears are who we thought they were! Jiren and zeno: Hold my beer.
that shit happens alot in the series:D wierd pick for the vid
the bears are who we thought they were! No that’s just universe 6 and 7s gods of destruction
Not gonna lie, I think he IS mark...
Oh fuck, this really make sense
I'm still not sure
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Holy shit, you’re onto something!
Mark has gone through some serious character development since this
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Well he would have been an older teenager or have just turned twenty at the point this was uploaded. I'm getting conflicting information saying he's anywhere from 25 to 33 right now. If it's the former he would have been 17 at the time and this would be very on brand for a teenager and if it's the latter I can still see a college age guy getting drunk and saying this about his favorite show.
This dude has multiple split personalities, sounding different with each entry.
Dean Stevens I think he did that on purpose.
That's why it's funny. And you do know those personalities are for comedic effect?
Yeah it got a bit annoying when watching the video
@@uniqhnd23 it was really funny I laughed till it hurt
@@adolfdrippler243 Holy shit it was annoying
GALICKKKK GUNNNN!!!!
omg :D
lol
tyoske13 KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FINAL FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH
FINAL KAMEHAMEHA!!!!
4:27 look at goku's face
Greatness
Lol looks like he ate crap
His legs are way way bigger than his entire upper body and head
😂😂🤣🤣🤣it took me 5 seconds to see.
@@mrziggyzaggy113 🤣
1:53 I love how you featured Yajirobe in this video, he sounds excited to be on the show! :D
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Duke where
8:37 omg looks fan made
Subscribe to totally not mark
Lol
I'm still not used to the "new and revamped" style of DBZ that is supposed to fit to what Anime looks like nowadays.
I really truly do prefer the old art style with less shines and details. Haha,Dragon Ball's probably the only anime I like being old school styled.
That's nostalgia for ya
Stekino Mai watch Jojos bizarre adventure to see how a,azazing mordern animation can be
Stekino Mai i agree the new shit just looks like the shitty pokemon show on cartoon network my brothers watch...
MotaShotta Yeah, and I hate for being that way but I can't help it when it comes to DB.
yea im probably not going to watch super ever havent yet for the resons in the video and what you said its way to polished ill stick to the manga and watch episondes through boo saga in dbz . and SCREW GT it is just wrong on so many levels
whoooaa, after 7 years, your presentation style has really changed and become way more refined.
This was Mark’s first form 💀
💀💀💀we wasn’t ready for his final one 💀
I think toriyama forgot raditz and launch is exist
yeah launch literally disappeared
Rip
r.i.p.
LightOfDark ratidz’s dead
Lol I forgot but toriyama didn’t put raditz in buu saga
1:37 wait.... he's standing on his tippytoes
When i look at super krillin it looks like he still wouldnt reach that hight even on his tippy toes
Who likes dbz's animation better?
Jlolha Stormtrooper
Anyone with a functioning brain.
SSGSS WARRIOR seeing repeated frames in any fight is better?
Jlolha Stormtrooper dbz did had some better animation
Brandon Thornton art* the animation is sub par.
Jlolha Stormtrooper everyone.
Polnareff: "I'm looking for a man with two right hands."
Vegeta: "Hello there."
Polnareff: "I SAID TWO *RIGHT* HANDS!"
Yare yare
Yare Yare Daze,good a jojo fan
yare yare
As soon as I realized what he said I scrolled down the comments
@@user-xu1yc2kh1h *YARE YARE, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO RUIN THE COMMENT SECTION. STAR PLATINUM ZA WARUDO* (no hate btw)
Trying too hard to be funny on an otherwise interesting topic, making this hard to watch.
finally somebody said it
Haha yep. All I wanted was to see was the animation errors the annoying commentary didn't let me finish the video.
when I got to the gohan part I stopped watching because I can't take it with this guy
Personally, I found him funny.
Agreed
6:54 is vegeta having a seizure?
Vegeta is rollin like fidget spinner🤣🤣
My main issue isn't even the ugly drawing, but the uninspired battles. Remember when Vegeta kneed Barta (burter, w/e) in the throat, killing him instantly? How about Future Trunks' awesome sword attacks then blast on Mecha Frieza? And who can forget Goku's fight with Tien in the original DB? The point is, all of these battles had characters at different stages of powers fighting, and still managed to be awesome because the fight choreography was simply fun to watch. Especially in the original DB, there was much more martial arts involved, making battles more than just shooting a million ki balls with the same animation frames over and over.
Now you watch that Goku fight vs Beerus and it's garbage. Not just because Goku looks ugly as sin, but because this is suppose to be Goku after a lifetime of adventures, decades of training, and almost at the height of his power, and THIS is how he fights? He just kind of runs over to him and tries to kick him once or twice? What happened to fucking tactics? Figuring out how to attack from unique angles? It's like they don't even have respect for the cunning side of Goku's character anymore. It's the same exact damn thing that happens in every shounen that goes the distance, the main character just learns a new form that gives them a new skin for some cosplay and a new mega fireball.
Why even make a series about fighting and getting stronger if you have nothing to say about these things anymore??? Just make it a slice of life anime and stop having serious battles, at least that might be funny.
THANK YOU!
Wow, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's completely disappointed in the fight scenes in Super. To me, it's like watching 2 stiff kick boxers trying to punch each other while being awkwardly lifted in the air
i watched the fight between Majin Vegeta and and Goku today and i wasn't bored at all. The thing is, the fights in DB/ DBz, even when the characters weren't fighting, you still felt interested and knew something was going to happen. The conversations they have actually contribute a little to the fight and the filler in between doesn't distract from the fight as much as it has you waiting. They give you the right amount of action and leave you set waiting for more.
In Super, an episode is like, 2 or 3 punches and then meaningless dialogue talking about how they're the same and how their sorry but they're about to go all out and then you have to wait another episode to see it happen. That's not entertaining. That's not a cliff hanger and it's not the kind of anxiousness you want to feel. In DB/ DBz, the anxiousness was the one you got from knowing: (Kevin Hart: and i quote-) "Its About To Go Down!!!!" (end quote-) and waiting to see it happen. In Super, you're just waiting for someone to throw another damn punch and move on. You know Goku's not gonna die and no one is in any real danger so you're less invested in what goes on. It took the worse qualities of the franchise and just multiplied them: (and i quote-) "Over 9000" (end quote-) times.
(I know this is an exaggeration but Super deserves it)
you would definitely find this problem in the universe 6 arc. That's where I stopped watching. The fights were sk short and boring. The only good one was Goku vs Hit. That's it. Everything else was just repetitive, boring nonsense
DBZ fights are the same shit. You guys are blinded by nostlagia and that's it. DBZ is mostly garbage. Sure, there are few good fights, moments but that's it.
Like people love Buu Saga and hate Super are wierd - there is no difference.
Can't believe this is the same guy who does in depth reviews of Pirates Adventures
And he is still as cringe as ever...
@@alitafullarmor5957 at least he is doing something more useful than typing cringe comments like the loser I'm replying to
@@e.t.1947 I don't see how it is useful to literally go out of your way to ruin the image of a franchise and make your own stupid spin on it while claiming that a parody does it better than the original source material.
And why are you talking to me in third person yet you are replying to me. Haha
You are so funny guy. (Not)
@@alitafullarmor5957 🤢
@@e.t.1947 😎
3:44 "killer queen daisan no bakudan: *bites za dusto*"
I hope someone gets this or I'm gonna look like a right numpty.
You watch JoJo???
Of course. Though, thinking about it I maybe should have gone with a different quote.
It's sad how little people liked this.
isectoid SUNLAIGHTO YELLOW OVADRIVUUU
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
4:02 take cover, he pressed the Goku button
SENZU BEAN!
Ya shouldn't have did that
Dang, sucks how none of his "anatomy of anime" videos aren't his most viewed.
They're extremely high quality, and I think deserve to be his most viewed videos.
You've evolved a lot, Mark. Congratulations.
Yeah but he needs to think more
Not really...
Mark is still a horrible content creator.
The load of hate on this video really annoys me. This man points out bad animation, and all people talk about is the music he used, his "cringe worthy" commentary, and how he's wrong? Really?
The DB community is full of people who act like they'll die if they don't defend Supers clearly bad animation. So I'm almost 100% sure all the hate is just from people who don't have a problem with the animation.
Leave this guy alone, really. The hate is unnecessary. Can't handle opinions? Why bother with being on the Internet in the first place?
Lmao exactly!
Seems you can't handle opinions of others as well. I love DBZ and agree with the horrible animations but if I wanted to hear someone sound immature and annoying, I would watch a kid youtuber.
+Henry Cunningham I was waiting for a reply like this.
My problem isn't with opinions, it's with people trying to put this guy down just because they disagree. There's no need for people to be as rude as they are. :/
+Two Scoops But everyone is different, and to himself, he may think his presentation is comical. Constant bashing on what he wants to do is absolutely unnecessary.
It's hard enough trying to make it big on UA-cam, the last thing people need is constant hate just because he wasn't as funny as someone bigger.
I don't know you, but if I were to go to your channel and just say "you're shit" Because you didn't make me laugh, you wouldn't think that was uncalled for?
+TFF421 were grown adults we should not be treating UA-camrs like children and telling them there's nothing wrong with their video when there is. considering how much money UA-camrs make now your basically saying we should just not give any negative feedback to someone's product and give them money for shit quality. if you had a mechanic fix your car and they made it even worse you wouldn't be like oh well I still think you did a good job man here have money
Why TF would you watch the first 30 episodes of super, when you could just watch the 2 movies with big budgets and save yourself alot of time?
some people like filler and longer content.
HoshiHearts RetroGaming I've watched it because it's more DB for me to watch. The show was over a year before I was born so I take as much as I can get before it's done again.
the first episodes didnt go the same as the movie. it was slightly different
Goku ssg vs beerus is better on the anime.
>being a dragon ball fan
>saving time
kek
is Pan not quarter Saiyan?
sj conker jeep cherokee to be exact.
+sj conker
lol
TheBlunderman bob Three quarters I guess
W.D. Gaster but Gohan half sayin
thats not how genetics works
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It's really funny going back to a youtuber's first videos years after they improved their craft and realizing how terrible those videos you watched so long ago were
What's with all the dislikes? This video isn't offensive and it's really funny!
Because he's not funny and keeps using shitty 2005 memes
Oh.
I think the people that disliked it are younger and there's more younger people watching than older.
+Ben Keacher what? this doesn't correlate at all, this video would be terrible to all ages
diehard fanboys
Why does this video even have dislikes? The animators of Dragon Ball Super are literally as incompetent as he described them.
Gohans face not looking "on model" is a just criticism I think. There was plenty of opportunity for me to make this video as depressing and realistic as possible but I opted for lighthearted. I still love the series.
at least the art is getting better after battle of gods saga its gotten way better and the complainers are one
Oni Master In all honesty, I found his commentary to be hilarious. His bit about Gohan's creepy face had me bursting out in laughter. Around 4:27 the fight choreography was far too simplistic for a Dragon Ball series. Furthermore, the artwork is horrible.
The Knutcracker It doesn't bother me in the sense that I'll lose some essential sleep at night. It's just interesting to me.
Ash Ketchum As someone already mentioned, the Golden Freeza arch looked terrible. The Universe 6 tournament also had some of the most atrocious artwork and the animation failed to live up to the traditional Dragon Ball Z slandered. However, Episode 39 of Dragon Ball Super was incredible. It featured Goku going Super Kaioken against Hit. Goku's punches and kicks looked so DBZ like. The artwork and animation was also great.
Dislikes? Butt hurt fanboys who can't face that it has shitty art/animation and is outclassed by Z which was made in 80s & 90s😂
Archodus Vaxal fanboy
+Paladin triggered weeboo
+Archodus Vaxal FIST ME DADDY
Lord Beerus dbz has flaws no shit but not even close to the amount of super
It has nothing to do with when it was animated
The fact Mark hates this video is honestly hilarious.
Not trying to be rude but Pan is only like 1/4 Saiyan
(Sorry)
@@s4ug4t51 25% is 1/4😑😐
@@s4ug4t51 ok
@@s4ug4t51 why
@@otakusway7377 what did it say?
Yeah thats true, Gohan is half Saiyan and half human, so if he has a kid with a human that means Pan would only be 1/4 Saiyan
these videos with people talking about animation is cancer. for one you pause during in between frames and you have no clear knowledge of how key framing works. im an animator and man do you have many things wrong in this video. not to mention you never really pointed out any major problems in how fluent the animation moves as whole which is the main goal when animating. how is the gohan face a major error??!?!?! I even saw some people say that db gt had better animation ?!?!?!!? dbgt contained soo much limited animation its fight scenes were barely fight scenes. the closest they got to action in db gt was looping punches or recycling the same scene over and over again. db gt had way too many still frames in the show as a whole and when they moved it was very choppy. and zooming into a shot from a distance is really really dumb, almost as dumb as pausing during an action sequence. and episode 5 was never really animated bad, it just had really bad artwork.
I took issue with gohans face as it was "off model". i do know more than the average bear about animation also. so as a person who does animation you should realise the importance of doing things on model. also I do love the series. just because I love it shouldn't mean I shouldn't criticise it. I was trying to make this a light hearted video as others have done the serious take on things. for number 3 I took things more seriously. all that said thank you for your criticism and I'll work harder towards the next one to imp t over upon this.
Totally Not Mark considering this was a problem in dbz constantly I dont get why its getting attention now. makeagif.com/i/_zaaze makeagif.com/i/wYN2eQ makeagif.com/i/xxa6Ez in fact the animation was alot worse and lazier half the time in dbz. they just loop frames or move camera angles with out any real movement.
+dudleypunch101 I think why this is getting more attention is due to the fact that gohan and dragon ball supers animation problems seem to be in the foreground and are the main focus of the scene in question. I've been accused of being very picky but in truth when making this video I just watched each episode as normal and found issues that way without going frame by frame. that's not to say dbz didn't have issues. it did. and had lots of them but perhaps it's the clean digital work of dbs that makes things pop out more. but in reality I think it's just that they are as I said at the beginning of the video. a young animation team struggling with an impossible workload.
Totally Not Mark well said man!! you earned a sub
Just stop bring down Super, Damn go fuck with GT that was the worst
I agree, that galick gun was trash compared to others in dbz.
Vegeta stood 0 chance anyway. I didn't care.
MemesforBmoPreme hater
HATER!
Well he didn't really charge the Galick Gun he just fired.
it werent suppose to look powerful thats why
2:06 with recent events these 3 picked have aged PERFECTLY
3:13 Best moment! Got me laughing my shoes off. The scene and the narration fits so well lmfaoo
This video is way different from his videos now.
There's no excuse for why the Animation is this bad. Toei produces the most profitable Animes in the world. The merchandise money it makes alone should cover it. There should be no budget problems. Newbie Animators should be put on the less popular shows that nobody really cares about. If time is that much of a struggle make the show bi-weekly or even seasonal so the animators don't kill themselves every week. It should be animated at their studio in Japan and not their studio in the Philippines. I'm not sure if Toei is just stupid or just doesn't care. Even Toriyama called them out for their shit and they still don't care. The fans need to take off their nastolgia glasses and see this piece of shit for what it is. Before you say it, the DVD fixes don't look that great either. I'm not begging for it to be movie quality but seriously I've seen fan animations from 2008 that look better.
Ultimate Spoopynator I'm not fucking ungrateful, at least I actually enjoy and don't complain when they make an episode dumbass. Toei himself even said they have a LIMITED time to make an episode, aka 2 to 1 week.
Ultimate Spoopynator Because the people are doing this stuff for our entertainment, they are trying to make us, the viewers happy. They don't have too, but they do. And people like you complain how it should be like this or that
Ultimate Spoopynator They are trying to entertain us, but whatever ya say.
Super Luffy it's probably not the animation itself. I'm sure they still use live action reference material for the most of the action sequences. If anything's to blame, it's shitty choreography.
Super Luffy You know what you said "Not their studio in the Philippines" thats really mean, I am Filipino and your denieding it?
"Cartoon Network Toonami days"
Oh boy the nostalgia.
😂😂lmao.. why is krillin shorter!?
kenpachi jayooo5 actually he was to gokus shoulder once...
Katarina Mirkov lmao.. I love this series but you probably couldn't find another anime that's more inconsistent if you tried😂😂
Jay Kenpachi tfs version
Jay Kenpachi yuh-ghi-oh and Pokemon
100k subs 0 videos Then revealage of face
The tfs version is meant to be inconsistent though.
Dragon Ball Z is king. I miss animation from that. Goku vs. Cell.
nah man, Gohan vs Cell is where it's at BOI
+Brandon Colin Who cares. Shut the fuck up
Brandon Colin That fight was one of my favorites in the series
Brandon Colin, lol fake ass fan. IT kamehameha is one of the most famous kamehameha's from Goku vs Cell and it was one of the most awesome fights in DBZ
Uzi Vert, fuck you bitch. That's like saying Goku is an earthling or not knowing Vegeta's name so he indeed is a fake ass fan like your ass is fucktard
It's finally back
pov: you sorted by newest first to find hate comments
Yes
maybe because they have one week to produce a 20 minute episode?
You're fucking stupid they don't make these things once a week they make a batch of episodes and they slowly release them over the course of weeks
Baka
Why didnt they uploaded a episode on 24 july?
It was a special day but they could have uploaded it with zero problems
+The Nerdy Alien HOLD THIS L, OMGGGGGGGG
High Five (reaches out his hand)
Denis Gonzales i hope you know how fucking stupid you sound
3:18 looks like robin from teen titans go :v
you are actually right!!!
God no difference is in the nose and eye lines
The comparison is they are both terrible
Which one?😡
Nate go
Dude, if you were an artist, you would know what a pain in the ass drawing hands is...
There's no excuses for a company that's supposed to be professional to release this incomplete garbage to the public, period.
cenasux115 Dude, if you look at even the highest rated films and animation, you'll find quirks like this. The fact is, not every animator on the Dragon Ball Super team have exactly the same skill level. Each animator is assigned a few scenes to animate, and those scenes reflect the work of that particular animator after drawing hundreds upon hundreds of frames for hours. You've no idea how hard these people work to put out content unless you've animated yourself.
Sierra Davis Stop defending these companies, DBZ had a lower budget than Dragon Ball super and they didn't have the advanced technology we have nowadays and still DBZ managed to look a lot better than super, specially in the buu saga. There's no excuses for the latest anime looking a lot worse than previous one, it should at least look on par with the Buu saga.
+cenasux115 he is still right tho
The old one was pencil drawn with old school artists.
It can be defended.
Mark wanting no one to see this
His subs: yeah no
1:19: Nice Vegeta impression. 1:33: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Krillin not that much shorter than Vegeta in the earlier show? 1:53: I'm ok with Gohan being a salary man as a plot point and then him paying for it and realizing he has to train, but BOG and ROF really confused me on Gohan's abilities. 3:05: Why is everybody except Videl drawn so weirdly? 3:18: He looks like a Looney Tunes character.3:55: Piccolo's my fav, but I like Goku too. Wish Super didn't kiss his feet so much though. 4:48: Didn't know becoming a Super Saiyan God turns you into a Pop Figure. 5:04: I think repeats are fine, as long as you don't do it too often and that the repeats aren't long ones, which these ones apparently are. I had fun seeing this video. Would you be doing worst animated moments for all the arcs in Super? If so, to balance that, you think you could do best animated moments as well?
I'm currently working on the next video as we speak. best animated of this arc. and I'll be doing the same for all the arcs yes ;) glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for such a comprehensive comment man!
Totally Not Mark
Nice. Thanks for replying. Do you think you'll be talking about the plot, how it's utilized, and how the characters are treated as well at some point, considering Super's considerably controversial use of all 3?
+TimeTellsNoLies90 in the future I plan to do detailed arc breakdowns as well as comparisons between the series first two arcs and their movies. which is better and why. I have a lot of dragon ball content ideas for the future :)
Totally Not Mark
Sweet. I've not seen Super yet, as I'm waiting for the Dub, but I've been thinking on starting it earlier. I'm not sure when I'll watch those, but good luck with them.
Talk less do more dude.
Watching this makes me a bit more confident with my drawings
Oof
Honestly same. It makes me feel better to know I'm not the only one who struggles with hands 😂😂
Reuben Orange
XD
And yet still better art work than you could ever do...
9 times out of 10 not
he also doesnt have a job as a professional animator. thats like me getting mad at my auto technician for fucking up my car and then some jack ass come along and say " and yet its still a better job than you can do "
I'm a pro artist. Trust me, those scenes are garbage. Goku's arm in particular is terrible-looking in almost all those scenes.
Oh, also: "...you could ever do...". Don't say that to people, because it's not true.
Artists aren't just magically good at art or "talented" or "gifted", it literally takes years and years of practice to become a pro, and a decade+ to be a master, but literally anyone can become one, even you and the guy who posted this video.
+ArtsyViking speak for yourself. foolish shrew.
Two left hands was honestly the biggest mistake... rest is just too nitpicky..
Im a big fan of dragon ball, all of them , but super just feels off with the animation , kinda reminded me back to GT .
Did you watch episode 5? Lmao
Can't believe that a 90s show had better animation than 2016, even after the fact that this show made millions.
What do you mean "to nitpicky"?
Are you serious??
The entire dragon ball and anime community has a meltdown over this GOD AWFUL animation and you think he's being nitpicky??
get over yourself bud
nitpicky? Millions of dollars were spend by people to watch this animated shit. No feels like in old dbz movies, vegeta has no fucking spirit and gives up? Everyone looks like a skinny bitch, lame story and a weak looking enemy with no intimidation factor. Dbs is shit
I dont understand what people are complaining about, him wasting time and all. You guys sat through Dragonball Z filler. This is nothing.
Exactly tho. We sat through dragonball z filler, we don't have long left after that...
Owen Porter sorry
NExt time on Dragon- no no no Get out of the fucken tank
I have been thinking the same thing. Some of the writing and animation has been shit, but the pacing has been much better this go round.
I can tell you even as an amateur that animating one of these "shitty episodes" is more work than you probably do in a year
They don't even have a month for one episode.
Ultimate Spoopynator Really, if so there is no excuse.
5:23 is me every time I watched the series 😂
Vegeta's two left hands...
Hmmmmm🧐
Now i know why goku is ever better than him😂
@WILSON ZHAO yeah this makes senses😂
WILSON ZHAO no he didn’t eat a bunch of sick aliens if you don’t get it go watch team 4 stars version
Some french dudes probably after Vegeta
Sandralishes You on his ass 🤣💀
Imagine being right handed with 2 left hands
pan is 75 percent human and 25 percent saiyan
Ultra Instinct Goku because gohan is 50% saiyan and he contributes 50% to pan's genes ?
videl is 100% human, gohan is 50% human 50% sayan...
That's not quite how genetics work. I mean, Gohan/Goten/Trunks could very well be 50% Saiyan, but there is no guarantee since we don't actually know anything about linked genes or if any of the Saiyan genes are dominant or recessive.
Wow I did not know that
Videl did most of the work
Ooof, that cosplay photo at the start really is thematically appropriate to the animation.
The major problem with the last part of the video is that toei animators are so rushed to make episodes that sometimes they finish it only a few hours before it airs.
Amateur animators can spend an entire week on reproducing that very scene.
So one week to make a 5 minutes scene (supposing that the person spent only one week on it) vs one week to make an entire episode.
Yes there are multiples animators working on one episode. Just remember that these guys often work on 2 to 3 series at the same time.
Easy to accuse the animators when it's the very toei animation system ( and management) that should be shamed.
finally someone says it. I wholeheartedly agree.
Other anime studios can make anime look good despite time. No excuse
mrbadassanime | The God of the Wired Wrong, very good looking animes aren't made one week for the next one, they're made monthes in advance and then aired one after the other, your argument is invalid.
+RepublicOf “ROS” Sushis +1
RepublicOf Sushis dragon Ball super episodes aren't made in a week. No anime does that
I can see how this became your breakout video, your editing is great as always, and you have your signature fast witty humor.
5:21 when Goku was a baby and they were visiting him gine leaves
Burdock: GET OUT OF THE GODDAMN TANK
5:37 oh hello!. Im Beerus nice to meet you
BAKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*HEY*
Back when TNM didn't know the epicness of One Piece...
To be fair, One Piece also struggles a lot with animation quality, because of the horrible schedule Toei provides the animation staff.
he did read the manga though. He only watched the movies and G8 filler, as far as animated material goes.
the unfunny cringey commentary forced me to just call it quits at around the 2:30 mark
I made to 3:00 before I stopped, beat that
+Psyf3rn 5:30
thats your win. i couldn't stand it after just 30 seconds. my mothers language is german but i know if something is funny or just useless crying. fuck the Animation and the sounds. they can fix them for rthe DVD Version. whats wrong with u Kids? i think most of you are pokemon go Player and hillary fans. disgusting
+Lars Michaelis Yes
I had to pause at 5:20 cause I DIED LAUGHING and I know how he feels when i watched that saga
This aged "super" well!!
I'll show myself out
2:05 mark you got to explain this bro💀
He wasn't lying when he said this video was trash
Trying to hard to be funny
2*
Goon lol
Choro Gon *buu
Working for me.
Goon ikr
Who else seen the like and dislike and thought of a beam struggle and it looks like the Kamehameha has the upper hand!!!
my new favourite comment.
My favorite drinking buddy. Let's get some mead
Whenever he says vegeta on captions it says cheetah
Rumor has it Krillin has been secretly gathering the dragon balls each saga and wishing to be shorter
Why all the hate it's a pretty good video if you don't like it move on to other vids
" i n s a i y a n "
Me: *interal AND external screaming*
Just came here to rewatch this video after his recent one lol
Same.
@5:40 "The lead Animator proving to the world that he doesn't believe in bones" lmao
People who can't dance: Oh, I have 2 left feet ^^"
Vegeta: *Bish please I got 2 left hands*
6:21
#11 Bad backgrounds and structures. How did we go from beautiful forestry, city landscapes, open terrain DURING fights, other planets, spaces, etc, to that awful looking cruise ship? It looks like a paper model.
Jesus Christ everyone's a critic on here, I happened to click and watch this video, found it alright, good energy, okay points, then I look then at the comment section and whoa everyone wants to become a UA-cam critic. If you don't enjoy this persons content people, move on, watch others, don't shit on his hopes and dreams of becoming a content creator, just shows how small you people are as viewers.
Yeah I can see that, I just felt like something had to be said, probs won't do much because as long as he uploads the top ten worst vids, he'll still get hate. Oh well that's fanboys for ya, can't take critism. :)
lol but he's criticizing the show is he not? So by your logic if he doesn't like some of the animation he should just move on and not make a video about it. Most of the people that are posting "hate comments" are mostly criticizing him. Some criticisms are harsher than others, but they're still criticisms, just like how he's criticizing the animations. It's what the comment section is meant for, feedback, opinions, and criticisms.
Crater Jinnz THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNKKKKK YOOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!
I agree good comment I enjoy that
Using the "don't like it, don't watch it or move on" argument kinda deflaw's your argument there. People in this comment section are trying to give criticisms to this guy. Using this type of argument completely destroys the purpose of taking criticism.
Gohan is not laughing at his crushed dreams he's laughing because he found out that he's the new krillin
I think it looks like a left hand due to how this scene was animated. You can clearly tell that the line that is suppose to be drawn throughout the middle of the hand is missing on the "other left hand" that Vegeta supposivley has.
This means that the hand was suppose to look like it was pointed toward beerus but in a actuality, it just looks like an optical illusion
"supposivley"?
If that’s the case then that’s even more embarrassing than them just giving him 2 left hands.
I took a break from Dragon Ball for a while and I was legitimately pissed when I saw what they did to my golden boi Gohan.
Is this the video he regrets making?
Yes
This video was on point! Soooo damn funny but also hit on all these scenes that left me wondering what the hell was going on with the animation. Way better video than other ones where the narrator just bitches and talks as if he himself is a professional animator.
0:05 Pure Art 👌🏻
What the fuck shitty anatomy of anime is it?
Golden Freddy FNAF sailor moon edition
Comments jokingly said they blew all their budget on episode 109-110 of Super (where Goku goes Ultra Instinct Vs. Jiren). And the improvement in animation and effects, while noticeable around that arc, are STILL INFERIOR to the plain old DBZ series. In Kai (or whatever their so-called remastered version is called) they desaturated colors and made everyone all shiny, like they're made of rubber or, indeed, plastic. And they continued with that trend in Super. Bodies are also less detailed and everyone shrank and got scrawnier, also. What's their excuse for all of that? Or have they become truly so lazy that they sincerely believe it's all good?
Well, it doesn't really matter where it started and what with. It needs to stop. But, I know that's being unreasonable. It's far too late for them to go back to the old animation style, now.
Na 114 when goku was fighting kale and cualifla that animation was 🔥with episode 122
It's like people don't remember that DBZ looked like it was drawn in crayon and animated at two frames per second. It wasn't all that great.
DBZ animation was complete trash and only looked bearable when they made all the remasters lol.
Comment Critic how can a comment be this wrong?
You think this is bad? Have you ever heard of naruto bad animations?
Seven deadly sins bad animation......
If you’re talking about the pain fight, you’re horribly wrong. Naruto’s bad animations are mostly in fillers
Well in every anime there are bad animation, idk why they criticize so much dragon ball super
@@tommy3134 pain fight doesnt even have bad animation
This was great in helping me define what is the WORST animation for my ranking system. THANKYOU. I subbed
GT, better story, better cannon, better music, better animation. Disagree? That's nice.
agreee DBZ > DBGT >>>>>> DBS
gt had terrible story, your on crack lmao. ss4 was the only thing good out of that abomination. I didn't even like that shit as a kid... that's when you know there's a problem
Gt had bull shit story lines, yes the animation had no mistakes in gt but doesn't make it better, but super has better art, super had way better music, an it's cannon
+John Lucari *you're
+Hector Vasquez Agreed,
super > gt BY FAR
The video is back!!!!!
Idk why mark was acting like a sp character
mark is so corny
The reason why gohan laughed is because he is laughing at what he became
"he's got muscles in places I don't even have places" *like*
Saw the like to dislike ratio and dove straight into the comments.
3:26 wait garlic jr was canon?
Ckk J yeah !
I’m pretty sure the Garlic Jr. arc was filler.
This isnt an animation list it's an illustration list. How well they're drawn, not how well they give off an illusion of movement.
Mark was right about this video being bad.
Yup
7:16
Don’t know if you noticed, but that’s still two lines filled with purple.
What were you trying to compare?
There's more than just the line. it spikes out a bit and upon impact it it spreads over half the screen. When the other one hits, it comes so suddenly and it goes away just as fast with no style.
5:36 boi
lmao
SoultheRealLegend xD XD
SoultheRealLegend xD ver
With a dislocated left hand*
SoultheRealLegend lol
This is hilarious! Why the dislikes??
Some of these were pretty awful, I like what I've seen from DBS so far, but damn. Nice vid
Collin Adams The start of super was pretty bad, but now it is amazing
The thing that doesn't make sense is this is Dragon ball the budget is there for good animation idk wtf toei's problem in the beginning of super.
3nderoX Budget isn't the main reason, they announced DBS right after Resurrection of F Movie too early and they planned it too early so everything falled apart.