Another is people who don’t know a thing about gardening who store seed banks to grow a garden when things get tough. I’ve grown a few gardens and sometimes hardly get anything
And another is just how soon do they think they can eat from it? There are people who say if shtf, they will plant a garden as if that will solve the food issue. What will they eat until the crop matures?
@@JohnDavis-im1oy ya, right, eat your garden seeds and then what? Having food caches until then? Well, ya, no shit sherlock. I wasn't talking about me.
There is a steep learning curve to gardening. I've been working at it for just over five years. Ive learned a few things about it and i am learning more all the time. First, its hands on. Reading and watching videos of other people doing it is fine but if you wait until things go bad, all that head knowledge will fly away. Only what your hands have a actually done will stay with you. Second, hardly anyone has good soil. It's either clay or sand. It takes a lot of organic material and time to make good soil. Then finding out what does well in your area and when to plant it. Then how to keep the bugs from eatting it before you can. My advice is to start learning now. Even a 4x4 raised bed will teach you things worth knowing. Good luck
Well i had a garden. Have to work hard. And you learn more as you go. I did ok got better as time went on. My 3rd year some one gleaned my whole garden. Nothing was left. I was so mad. But these are things you need to think about
I have a plumber "friend" who said that he is investing in lead instead of food preparations, he said he'll just go take what he wants. Now I know if shtf and he comes around...
So true.I lived off grid in a primitive one room cabin,no plumbing or electric.I had to carry my water a quarter of a mile.3 gallons a day for drinking and dishes,more for bathing.It's very important to keep as clean as possible for your own well being.I was blessed to have a wood stove to heat and cook on.In a tiny cabin you should also spend as much time out doors for your mental health so the right clothing is so important.You get really fit carrying 5 gallons of water in a backpack every day and walking 2 miles to get to a county road too.It was a good test of my skills and I know I could do it again.I did have a huge garden with friends to depend on....no,you won't make it thinking you can hunt every thing you need.And it's not romantic.
Bugging out is hands down a last option unless u have to because your life depends on it. For myself having young children and a new born on the way it could be a death sentence for them. I’m also in Ocala,Fl and in the summer it’s brutal. I have worked outside doing lawn/landscaping for 20 years now and it still gets hard at times. During the summer we are working 10-12hrs a day, 6-7 days a week, and with one 30 min. lunch break. Now yes we have plenty of water but image with very lil. I always tell the guys “no water no worky” and I’m the owner. Most people won’t be able to make no matter what gear they have.
The lack of likes on this video makes me wonder how many people watched it and didn't like the truth of what was being said. Excellent talk and thanks for the insight.
yep I dont worry about getting into gun fights as much as I do getting mosquito, tick, bee, fly, spider bit by no seeums and getting infected or septic. Its the little things we can't see that kill us.
Our whole family got malaria where we lived in the Amazon. Dad and I didn't get it so bad as the others. Dad said it was because we weren't as sweet as them! Gotta be mean to survive?
There have been times that I have worn my pack around the house while doing chores and cooking just to get used to it because I have a large well equipped INCH bag. I am working on a new video to show my set up. Nice video gentlemen.
Great video! Even in the thick of the Oregon woods it will look like downtown after a few months crawling with people. You will have to go where others can’t and won’t want to go.
Thank you- surviving during a real, prolonged SHTF even is going to be harder than most people imagine. I know too many people who think all they have to do is register with the Red Cross or the Army and receive food boxes/water every day or week. They have no answer when I ask, "what if the event is nationwide and the authorities don't have enough food/water to hand out? What then?" The fear/or confusion in their eyes speaks volumes.....
@@maxinemcclurd1288 you should tell them to being their supplies. If someone is serious about it, they would pre-stage their stuff as well. I'm looking at buying property of my own for setting up a homestead in a rural area.
I believe the idea of being able to feed yourself from a small vegetable garden is a fallacy... I did an experiment by growing a 30 ft row of non-hybrid corn and one of black beans. I could eat for one week on that without losing much weight... Multiply that out for a family of 4 for a year, and it comes to an acre of just beans and corn, not including fresh vegetables and necessary fats. Not to mention the less than ideal conditions during SHTF. Also think that it takes about 50 lb of beans or corn to plant an acre...
I'll add my two cents on the hunting part of the equation. During the Great Depression many people were not far removed from working the land. You were either a farmer, or your parents famed or your grandparents farmed. This usually meant you knew how to raise a garden, butcher game and usually hunt. Many of the skills needed to survive were common tasks back then. Now today, that is a different story for most. Yes, we have a massive population compared to then but most lack the simple skills to create fire let alone butcher. Game numbers will drop drastically for a year or two,I believe. After that, I think enough people will die off for a recovery. Too many people will starve because they can't bring themselves to eat Bambi or Thumper or a cat or dog.
You know I did look sideways at my poor unsuspecting dog,hope it don't come to it but she is not my child.I'm so glad my folks were veterans,farmers and hunters.They left me a legacy of knowledge to pass to my kids.
So much sense spoken, most people have room to grow a few veggies and you tend to get better at it over time so don’t just store seeds thinking you can start when you need to ,get one going the shit tastes good ! Unlike most of the canned crap you have . And it replenishes your stores without a firefight.
During the Great Depression several breeds of deer were hunted to the edge of extinction. And that was when we had half the population density we have today.
I heard that the government is able to break into your house and take your prepped food, so I think it might be important to hide most of it so it’s not so noticeable in case that happens.
Man, that was BLEAK. My bug-out kits consists of one thing... a cyanide pill. But seriously, the thing I dread the most is the heat. I grew up in the South without A/C and the mosquitoes would buzz your ears... That was frickin' miserable!!!
This is the best realistic video on this topic i have ever seen, thank you guys! Great video! However it is a bit depressing regardless of the realism. Keep up the good work!
In an “Alone” situation with a full pack of gear I give myself 6 months max. My clothes with be full of holes, food I brought will all be ate, fish hooks will be gone, tarp will be ripped, electronics broken, lighters dried out, etc. You guys probably longer but for 99% of people I’d give them maybe a month.
I couldn't agree more! Another thing to consider is having bartering items. In my 'pantry' I have many chlorine pool 'pucks'. One of them will clean a Lot of water! I have vacume packed Tobacco to trade. I will not barter ammo. Never give a desperate person something they could use to kill you. I also keep a bicycle in the back of my work truck. In the event of an EMP, I have an easier way to get home than walking. I agree completely with yall on wound care, antiseptic and antibiotic ointments are essential but I also store oral antibiotics for the 'in case' a cut gets infected anyway. Great video and Great information...I hope some of the folks out there will listen! Yall Take Care!
This is really great stuff guys. Glad I subscribed as part of the giveaway Sootch mentioned. So many people on UA-cam putting together these 40+ pound packs have never backpacked or carried a load over distance.
This is a great, common-sense conversation about life-and death matters. The big myth I always hear comes from the 'gunshop commandos' who think they're going to take down the government forces when martial law is declared. It may come down to that scenario at some point (and I sincerely hope it doesn't, but without adequate planning, communication, coordination and support from the community), it will be a one-way trip to prison or the cemetery as individuals and small groups are isolated, surrounded and overcome.
i love the point you made about the medical kits, i think most people dont realize how important basic medical knwoledge and sipplies are. and also bout being in shape, survival with the best tools is still hard and tough on the body so being in good shape and being able to keep going is important. and not just body fit, also mental strenght is arguably more important
I get a kick out of people that leave things in the packaging. 1. It adds weight to your bag. 2. It takes up more space, where you could have added something else. 3. Having to remove it from the packaging takes time, which you may not have. 4. It really goes against the ethos of "leave no trace".
My truck kit also has a .22 in it. If I shoot at an animal it will be a rabbit, squirrel or a large bird. I'm not going to try to kill a deer for a couple steaks.
Thank you. Most people will be going for the larger game with zero idea of how to preserve the leftover or excess meat. its better to have a couple of squirrels or rabbits for dinner than to have wasted meat.
@@Tsiri09 So true,if people don't know how to salt and smoke meat they should stick to small game.It takes time to preserve meat the way Grandmother did and impossible if on the move.
Good stuff guys... as for hunting in shtf... small game and fishing is the best option simply because of the food storage issue. Take what you need for the day or the next. Even then you're 100% correct... the animal populations will suffer huge loses just like they did during the great depression.
Although I'm good with processing large game I think a BB gun for squirrels will be a sweet item to have and very quiet too.When I was a kid here in the southern Appalachians you hardly ever saw a deer,every one hunted at that time.By the 80s with our area becoming a "retirement community"with lots of people moving in from city's the deer population has exploded due to outlanders feeding them.That won't last long in a shtf situation.
Too many guys especially in the preppier community think being in the military somehow makes you an expert in everything ...Of course it helps but the real experts living off grid are the good ole boy types who can fish hunt farm build and repair anything ..I would take an Alaskan homesteader over a navy seal any day of the week
I honestly wish I would have been able to glean more from my ancestors who survived the great depression. I grew up in a farming and ranching community in south east New Mexico. So I did learn a lot of things about what people would consider prepping or survival now growing up. It is amazing with what has happened over the last year and a half where I wasn't worried to much about if I i was gonna have food or TP, growing up the way I did, led me to have a little extra put away.
Most people don't realize that you have to be able to preserve the food you catch. It's not easy. You want to be able to survive you have to be taught to survive. Plus you have to have people who are working with you.
hunting is one thing, fishing is another thing, but also keeping some seeds in a bag isnt a bad thing if you are expecting a long term leave from home, and not just like long term plants that take all season to grow but short term plants such as squash or peppers that grow in two months or so (given the right circumstances) or certain leafy plants that take less than a month, the whole idea is something that can be replanted over and over that grows quick, so after your first 2-3 weeks of food is gone you have a long term relatively consistent option, and even when not concerned about surviving in the woods keeping a small garden is great for just saving some money here and there
My brothers (Well, the ones who still talk to me) always had an area of expertise to share among the group/team. (My area is food, was classically trained in it, smoking, salt preservation, fats, how to process what you catch/hunt/find, cast iron treating and use, made a flat top out of huge ass stone and cooked trout on it, even make our own diy emergency food bars.) Our "plan" was that together, we were stronger versus alone. Then every few months, we would go out in the sticks for a week and test out or newest crap we learned or picked up to see how badly we fail...and we do fail...But 6 of those 7 days will be failing, we do have one day where one of the newest things we read about does work, and we just file that in the "shit to use later" type folder in our minds. (First snow hike, a lot of failing happened...a lot...) Our kits always compliment each other, which prevents tripling up on something (who needs 3 of the same sharping stone?) If one is hiking in the axe, the other can hike in the hand pick, and so on. . People don't understand, if your sleeping shit get's soaked, there is no Uber to take you home as It takes weeks to dry out certain sleep systems. Yeah, i'm broken and older now, and homie can't lug a full pack 10 miles like my 20 year old self could, but having a group/team to help carry the suck, and that does make it more manageable. some call it a handicap to depend on others, my logic is, if shit is that bad you need the group support, you're already fucked. Besides, nothing motivates you better then having a younger brother showing your ass up. lol
Very informative video guys. You definitely hit the nail on the head when you mentioned training for the things you have. Again, you were right when you said it's all marketing strategies. I think we're in a way,, slightly exaggerating it a bit.
I would have thought physical fitness would be a top priority for "preppers". Having guns, food and a contingency plan in place is good and all but if you're not in good enough shape to execute that plan then it doesn't really matter how much food or ammo you have stored.
Funny enough, I live in middle of nowhere Texas. We have a well, cattle, deer and land for growing food...that being said, I would want to rely on our land for farming (Sandy soil) or our well for drinking water (salinity issues). I hope the stuff doesn’t hit the fan, but my family and I will try our best.
Boo-boo kits need potassium permanganate, since it can be used to disinfect wounds (fine powder, not the pool-cleaning crystals) and when combined with glycerin it creates a fire equivalent to slow-burning black powder.
Well even if you grow a garden. How you going to fertilize it or spray for bug worms. Then how you going to keep everyone else out of it 24 hrs a day. People hungry are going to get whatever they can to feed the family or their self. Good video.
Add-on, check expiration dates...example, a "friend came to me and asked what I thought of his kit, it was a good "boo-boo kit" until we looked at the pain reliever pills 5 years out of date, Neosporin tube dry, I kid you not, dry.
What I have wondered is: when there is mass death for any reason, what are the people wearing that go clean up the mess? Bio-hazard suits. Why? Because there is a massive amount of bacteria in the atmosphere in those situations. Most people in the know predict a 70 to 90% population loss in an SHTF. That means the people left are going to have a big problem with body's and disposal in lots of places. There wont be enough people and time to bury them.
Ive had to read people for a living for a long time I can tell when someone is full of it. Most on UA-cam are. So if your gonna watch someone and trust your life with there advise trust these three men.
If you can get out of a gun-fight ... stay out of it, don't go back in. The tool that is "you" is more useful alive to others and those you love than dead or wounded. Be a hero along the way if you want / can, but don't go looking for a fight, ever. Also, a great area to live is along or not far from a coast ... coastal foraging and fishing is way easier than going to the woods to hunt. And, whilst foraging, you can pretty easily get enough food for 1 person for 1 day. There is seaweed that you can eat, plants further in-land. And because fish is a lot smaller than game, there is little to no preservation or storage to take care of. Get it eat it. Shoot a deer, boar, or other large game, you'll have a tone more work to do. And living near the sea offers a great way to get salt, just boil some seawater. So your food won't be constantly bland if you haven't stocked up on stuff.
Just watching this now, 3? Years after you made the video... Great lessons, and soooo true! I lived on a boat in the northeast for 20 years, which is basically “glamping”. I can assure anyone watching this, there is more truth and wisdom bestowed in this video than most others I’ve watched. ( and I’ve been bingeing for a while now.) “A mans gotta know his limitations...” Dirty Harry
You guys are straight up front. As far as first aid not enough people plan for stomach and foot issues. Trapping beats hunting. and if you have never done at least backpacking for 3 days you are screwed. Also, there is going to be so much death within the first 90 days. The ones that survive more than 90 days are going to be the most proficient/knowledgeable/practical/deadly humans.
You and everyone else who has never had a real taste of it. It's full of romantic notions but the reality is scratching and scraping for every basic thing that comes nearly effortlessly in civilization
Well I don't think it would be fun to bug out... That's a hard life.. I was homeless in my car for 1 yr. 9 mo. And 13 days. I had a job but couldent afford to pay rent. Buying food preparing it. And keeping clean . that's hard. I lived it. Knowing where you can throw your trash. Finding a place to sleep that's safe. It was very hard. And i had 2 kids with me. Your right. It ain't no picnic in the park. Abba a SHTF. Living in the woods. Boy very tough living. You all sure made sence to me. Its not a pleasant thought to try to survive in the woods. I do know foraging and i eat real good in the spring and summer. (You can't buy food like that in the stores) but some of the this your gathering has to be cooked. Some has to be boiled a few times. You would defiantly need a good water source that's clean. Then fall and winter that fresh food is gone. Its seasonal. Plus people don't think off the laws. I don't look forward to bugging out. And you need skills to survive.
Successful hunter-gatherers are and were undertaken as group activities, just like agricultural food production. Paleobiologists have found that the development of the human brain was accelerated by the availability of animal fats -- as you might expect to find in a mastodon, for example. Survival of the species after the widespread availability of such game depended on domesticated animals and the improved adaptation to starches and proteins from agricultural products. Now we are eating food-like ingredients which have been introduced at a rate far faster than our heredity can accommodate. Chronic disease and death are the result . . .
On the topic of hunting find your favorite hunting area and have your friends throw a party up range let me know how many animals you see. I always run into deer when I'm walking out to my car and not when I'm looking.
Hold on a second there guy. The majority of supplies in my kit are still in their package and i have tested them. Its very ignorant to think that just becaause an item is still packaged, the user must be unfamiliar with it. I happen to test something and if it's good, i'll purchase a 2nd or 3rd and leave it it's package. Why do I leave it in it's package? Because everything has at least some potential to be re purposed, and in a emergency/survival situation, that packaging may come in handy.
If you guys know a swat officer that has the mentality that taking by force is ok when lawlessness occurs, you might need to report the guy. If he thinks like this, he doesn't have the moral compass to be a cop.
GOOD VIDEO FELLAS! AS A VETERAN WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT SNOWFLAKES THAT CAN'T HANDLE ANY STRESS LET ALONE SHTF! BE ALOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE CRYING & DIEING! GOD BLESS AMERICA! UNCLE JEFF!
Go camping for more than a week and find out how your shit works, don't matter cold wet the better. But try it. Was Army 12yrs and it's tougher and rougher than you think can it be done sure am I tough enough don't know
The myth that you can patch a wound (especially a bullet wound) with a tampon, must stop. It is just stupid, and dangerous. Carry real hemostatic agents.
B M I actually heard a guy that’s a registered paramedic say that’s what he would do. I decided right there if I need emergency medical care I don’t want him touching me.
Training, training, and training..... physical training, skills/common tasks training, IWQ training, team/squad/family level training, platoon/group level training. I believe in iodine in my small boo-boo kit....since I can also disinfect water. And no one is gonna run to the woods and just "live off the land" and survive. I'm bugging in...not out. Preparedness is the best course IMO. Do you know how to salt cure meat....smoke house cure....put up peas, beans, corn, and other garden items, render soap??? It's time to learn I believe....
yes! this video is one of the best survival videos i've seen. they pointed out how in an active shooter situation, you shouldn't be shooting unless necessary because first responders won't know who is the real enemy shooter. you're not going to be able to go in the woods and survive by hunting animals and you're not going to be able to attack others to steal food. i can't watch videos that say those things. maybe you have a bug out location, but what if someone gets there first? and physical fitness is a big thing! i can't listen to someone who's breathing hard just going through his kit. do you really think you're going to survive? and last but not least: train your family!! there's no such thing as rambo in real life. a very few select pepople could be rambo, but then you add in family and little kids, you're not gonna be able to protect your wife, a baby and a teenager 100% of the time with only what you're carrying. i think even someone as young as five could learn proper gun handling and kids are great at catching frogs and stuff. kids can be used as something in your situation. no reason a ten year old can't be carrying a rifle and learning how to dress game. most survival/prepping guys i see think they'll be the MAN and women are tertiary to their plans. does your wife know how to operate your hand guns and rifles? home defense in a regular situation: what if you're out of town? your wife is gonna need to know proper procedures. there's a few "survivalists" on youtube i've just laughed at. they're like the air softers of survival. 100 pounds over weight but have 100 rounds of ammo on their kit and a pencil sharpener for making tinder. ugh.
Good vid guys...Another big one is the "Lone Wolf" myth...Forming a group is vital. United we stand !!!
Probably one of the best realist prepper conversation I've heard yet. Keep it up.
Another is people who don’t know a thing about gardening who store seed banks to grow a garden when things get tough. I’ve grown a few gardens and sometimes hardly get anything
And another is just how soon do they think they can eat from it? There are people who say if shtf, they will plant a garden as if that will solve the food issue. What will they eat until the crop matures?
Gardening is like golf. It looks easy but man is it hard to do.
@@JohnDavis-im1oy ya, right, eat your garden seeds and then what? Having food caches until then? Well, ya, no shit sherlock. I wasn't talking about me.
There is a steep learning curve to gardening. I've been working at it for just over five years. Ive learned a few things about it and i am learning more all the time.
First, its hands on. Reading and watching videos of other people doing it is fine but if you wait until things go bad, all that head knowledge will fly away. Only what your hands have a actually done will stay with you.
Second, hardly anyone has good soil. It's either clay or sand. It takes a lot of organic material and time to make good soil.
Then finding out what does well in your area and when to plant it.
Then how to keep the bugs from eatting it before you can.
My advice is to start learning now.
Even a 4x4 raised bed will teach you things worth knowing.
Good luck
Well i had a garden. Have to work hard. And you learn more as you go. I did ok got better as time went on. My 3rd year some one gleaned my whole garden. Nothing was left. I was so mad. But these are things you need to think about
Agree.... Physical fitness and training are the two big gaps in preppers preparedness.
I have a plumber "friend" who said that he is investing in lead instead of food preparations, he said he'll just go take what he wants. Now I know if shtf and he comes around...
I'd remind your "friend" that others are investing in lead, too. He might not get far with his plan.
Lol!!
A Lot of folks have a Lot of lead!!
I'll keep loaded for him...
Stu Pidasso if he shows up you need to terminate on site
It's good to see all of you with the same frame of mind
Truth bombs. The romanticizing of these situations is spot on.
So true.I lived off grid in a primitive one room cabin,no plumbing or electric.I had to carry my water a quarter of a mile.3 gallons a day for drinking and dishes,more for bathing.It's very important to keep as clean as possible for your own well being.I was blessed to have a wood stove to heat and cook on.In a tiny cabin you should also spend as much time out doors for your mental health so the right clothing is so important.You get really fit carrying 5 gallons of water in a backpack every day and walking 2 miles to get to a county road too.It was a good test of my skills and I know I could do it again.I did have a huge garden with friends to depend on....no,you won't make it thinking you can hunt every thing you need.And it's not romantic.
Bugging out is hands down a last option unless u have to because your life depends on it. For myself having young children and a new born on the way it could be a death sentence for them. I’m also in Ocala,Fl and in the summer it’s brutal. I have worked outside doing lawn/landscaping for 20 years now and it still gets hard at times. During the summer we are working 10-12hrs a day, 6-7 days a week, and with one 30 min. lunch break. Now yes we have plenty of water but image with very lil. I always tell the guys “no water no worky” and I’m the owner. Most people won’t be able to make no matter what gear they have.
The lack of likes on this video makes me wonder how many people watched it and didn't like the truth of what was being said. Excellent talk and thanks for the insight.
yep I dont worry about getting into gun fights as much as I do getting mosquito, tick, bee, fly, spider bit by no seeums and getting infected or septic. Its the little things we can't see that kill us.
Our whole family got malaria where we lived in the Amazon. Dad and I didn't get it so bad as the others. Dad said it was because we weren't as sweet as them! Gotta be mean to survive?
Also, my pack is 28 lbs. I walk my treadmill while watching these kinds of videos in the evenings... that pack is on my back every time.
Good idea!
There have been times that I have worn my pack around the house while doing chores and cooking just to get used to it because I have a large well equipped INCH bag. I am working on a new video to show my set up.
Nice video gentlemen.
@@JohnDavis-im1oy oh I do that too. I go around the golf course at night, and have even taken it on my bicycle.
I took video of it that I may upload.
Mine is 25lbs. and I take it for 3-4 hour walks around town while mapping my area and training city survivalism out in the streets.
Great video! Even in the thick of the Oregon woods it will look like downtown after a few months crawling with people. You will have to go where others can’t and won’t want to go.
Thank you- surviving during a real, prolonged SHTF even is going to be harder than most people imagine. I know too many people who think all they have to do is register with the Red Cross or the Army and receive food boxes/water every day or week. They have no answer when I ask, "what if the event is nationwide and the authorities don't have enough food/water to hand out? What then?" The fear/or confusion in their eyes speaks volumes.....
I've had too many people saying they will head for my place in the mtns.....I sure hope they bring their own food and supplies.
@@maxinemcclurd1288 you should tell them to being their supplies. If someone is serious about it, they would pre-stage their stuff as well. I'm looking at buying property of my own for setting up a homestead in a rural area.
I believe the idea of being able to feed yourself from a small vegetable garden is a fallacy... I did an experiment by growing a 30 ft row of non-hybrid corn and one of black beans. I could eat for one week on that without losing much weight... Multiply that out for a family of 4 for a year, and it comes to an acre of just beans and corn, not including fresh vegetables and necessary fats. Not to mention the less than ideal conditions during SHTF. Also think that it takes about 50 lb of beans or corn to plant an acre...
I'll add my two cents on the hunting part of the equation. During the Great Depression many people were not far removed from working the land. You were either a farmer, or your parents famed or your grandparents farmed. This usually meant you knew how to raise a garden, butcher game and usually hunt. Many of the skills needed to survive were common tasks back then. Now today, that is a different story for most. Yes, we have a massive population compared to then but most lack the simple skills to create fire let alone butcher. Game numbers will drop drastically for a year or two,I believe. After that, I think enough people will die off for a recovery. Too many people will starve because they can't bring themselves to eat Bambi or Thumper or a cat or dog.
You know I did look sideways at my poor unsuspecting dog,hope it don't come to it but she is not my child.I'm so glad my folks were veterans,farmers and hunters.They left me a legacy of knowledge to pass to my kids.
JesseBCO18 I’ll lick the bones off a dog with great pleasure or even a cat for that matter
So much sense spoken, most people have room to grow a few veggies and you tend to get better at it over time so don’t just store seeds thinking you can start when you need to ,get one going the shit tastes good ! Unlike most of the canned crap you have . And it replenishes your stores without a firefight.
Well i don't like canned food but i do have it. Stuff i wouldent mind earring if i had 2.
During the Great Depression several breeds of deer were hunted to the edge of extinction.
And that was when we had half the population density we have today.
I heard that the government is able to break into your house and take your prepped food, so I think it might be important to hide most of it so it’s not so noticeable in case that happens.
Man, that was BLEAK. My bug-out kits consists of one thing... a cyanide pill. But seriously, the thing I dread the most is the heat. I grew up in the South without A/C and the mosquitoes would buzz your ears... That was frickin' miserable!!!
This is the best realistic video on this topic i have ever seen, thank you guys! Great video! However it is a bit depressing regardless of the realism. Keep up the good work!
I always get better information when you guys get together for these conversations.
In an “Alone” situation with a full pack of gear I give myself 6 months max. My clothes with be full of holes, food I brought will all be ate, fish hooks will be gone, tarp will be ripped, electronics broken, lighters dried out, etc. You guys probably longer but for 99% of people I’d give them maybe a month.
Man I ain't bugging out I'm bugging in. You guys are right.
I couldn't agree more!
Another thing to consider is having bartering items. In my 'pantry' I have many chlorine pool 'pucks'. One of them will clean a Lot of water! I have vacume packed Tobacco to trade. I will not barter ammo. Never give a desperate person something they could use to kill you. I also keep a bicycle in the back of my work truck. In the event of an EMP, I have an easier way to get home than walking. I agree completely with yall on wound care, antiseptic and antibiotic ointments are essential but I also store oral antibiotics for the 'in case' a cut gets infected anyway. Great video and Great information...I hope some of the folks out there will listen! Yall Take Care!
Reality sucks in shtf situations. Thank you for your honest assessments, especially since those are based on real life experiences!
This is really great stuff guys. Glad I subscribed as part of the giveaway Sootch mentioned. So many people on UA-cam putting together these 40+ pound packs have never backpacked or carried a load over distance.
I have never understood why they don't just load up duffle bags the only place their going to carry it is out to the car.
This is a great, common-sense conversation about life-and death matters. The big myth I always hear comes from the 'gunshop commandos' who think they're going to take down the government forces when martial law is declared. It may come down to that scenario at some point (and I sincerely hope it doesn't, but without adequate planning, communication, coordination and support from the community), it will be a one-way trip to prison or the cemetery as individuals and small groups are isolated, surrounded and overcome.
This was a great discussion, worth listening to. Keep up the good work!
Thanks guys good chat & some good info that makes sense.
Whether you bug out or bug in, the key is try out your plan. This is the only way you'll find holes in your plan.
i love the point you made about the medical kits, i think most people dont realize how important basic medical knwoledge and sipplies are.
and also bout being in shape, survival with the best tools is still hard and tough on the body so being in good shape and being able to keep going is important. and not just body fit, also mental strenght is arguably more important
Just wanted you to know I’m loving all these videos! Great work!
I get a kick out of people that leave things in the packaging. 1. It adds weight to your bag. 2. It takes up more space, where you could have added something else. 3. Having to remove it from the packaging takes time, which you may not have. 4. It really goes against the ethos of "leave no trace".
Guy in the the middle knows what's up. Woke AF and honestly prepared.
Daniel Cluley the guy on the right (Chris Weatherman) knows too.
My truck kit also has a .22 in it. If I shoot at an animal it will be a rabbit, squirrel or a large bird. I'm not going to try to kill a deer for a couple steaks.
Thank you. Most people will be going for the larger game with zero idea of how to preserve the leftover or excess meat. its better to have a couple of squirrels or rabbits for dinner than to have wasted meat.
@@Tsiri09 So true,if people don't know how to salt and smoke meat they should stick to small game.It takes time to preserve meat the way Grandmother did and impossible if on the move.
I like that saying. I had to think about it for a while to accept it logically. Lower your standards. You guys make a lot of sense.
Realistic views from experienced guys. Thank you.
It’s videos like this that makes me glad I’m all stocked up with Cheetos and gummy bears.
Good stuff guys... as for hunting in shtf... small game and fishing is the best option simply because of the food storage issue. Take what you need for the day or the next. Even then you're 100% correct... the animal populations will suffer huge loses just like they did during the great depression.
Although I'm good with processing large game I think a BB gun for squirrels will be a sweet item to have and very quiet too.When I was a kid here in the southern Appalachians you hardly ever saw a deer,every one hunted at that time.By the 80s with our area becoming a "retirement community"with lots of people moving in from city's the deer population has exploded due to outlanders feeding them.That won't last long in a shtf situation.
I've been watching a lot of videos but this one has covered topics others won't discuss
Too many guys especially in the preppier community think being in the military somehow makes you an expert in everything ...Of course it helps but the real experts living off grid are the good ole boy types who can fish hunt farm build and repair anything ..I would take an Alaskan homesteader over a navy seal any day of the week
You all are spot on!
Great discussion! I think people neglect the fact that emotional devastation will inhibit proper thinking.
I'm also a Ocala boy.. Can't agree more! Wish I could "like" this video 1000 times
I completely agree with everything said! Y’all are so right!
FYI - Alan’s quote is on the dvd cover of the movie Tommy Boy. “If at first you don’t succeed, lower your standards.”
I honestly wish I would have been able to glean more from my ancestors who survived the great depression. I grew up in a farming and ranching community in south east New Mexico. So I did learn a lot of things about what people would consider prepping or survival now growing up. It is amazing with what has happened over the last year and a half where I wasn't worried to much about if I i was gonna have food or TP, growing up the way I did, led me to have a little extra put away.
Most people don't realize that you have to be able to preserve the food you catch. It's not easy. You want to be able to survive you have to be taught to survive. Plus you have to have people who are working with you.
hunting is one thing, fishing is another thing, but also keeping some seeds in a bag isnt a bad thing if you are expecting a long term leave from home, and not just like long term plants that take all season to grow but short term plants such as squash or peppers that grow in two months or so (given the right circumstances) or certain leafy plants that take less than a month, the whole idea is something that can be replanted over and over that grows quick, so after your first 2-3 weeks of food is gone you have a long term relatively consistent option, and even when not concerned about surviving in the woods keeping a small garden is great for just saving some money here and there
My brothers (Well, the ones who still talk to me) always had an area of expertise to share among the group/team. (My area is food, was classically trained in it, smoking, salt preservation, fats, how to process what you catch/hunt/find, cast iron treating and use, made a flat top out of huge ass stone and cooked trout on it, even make our own diy emergency food bars.) Our "plan" was that together, we were stronger versus alone. Then every few months, we would go out in the sticks for a week and test out or newest crap we learned or picked up to see how badly we fail...and we do fail...But 6 of those 7 days will be failing, we do have one day where one of the newest things we read about does work, and we just file that in the "shit to use later" type folder in our minds. (First snow hike, a lot of failing happened...a lot...) Our kits always compliment each other, which prevents tripling up on something (who needs 3 of the same sharping stone?) If one is hiking in the axe, the other can hike in the hand pick, and so on. . People don't understand, if your sleeping shit get's soaked, there is no Uber to take you home as It takes weeks to dry out certain sleep systems. Yeah, i'm broken and older now, and homie can't lug a full pack 10 miles like my 20 year old self could, but having a group/team to help carry the suck, and that does make it more manageable. some call it a handicap to depend on others, my logic is, if shit is that bad you need the group support, you're already fucked. Besides, nothing motivates you better then having a younger brother showing your ass up. lol
This is an epic video. Excellent job debunking all of the deluded ideations of the keyboard masses. Thanks for sharing !
Very informative video guys. You definitely hit the nail on the head when you mentioned training for the things you have. Again, you were right when you said it's all marketing strategies. I think we're in a way,, slightly exaggerating it a bit.
To many people are think this a video game or movie of some sort and fail to realize the seriousness of the situation.
I would have thought physical fitness would be a top priority for "preppers". Having guns, food and a contingency plan in place is good and all but if you're not in good enough shape to execute that plan then it doesn't really matter how much food or ammo you have stored.
Bingo
Funny enough, I live in middle of nowhere Texas. We have a well, cattle, deer and land for growing food...that being said, I would want to rely on our land for farming (Sandy soil) or our well for drinking water (salinity issues). I hope the stuff doesn’t hit the fan, but my family and I will try our best.
Boo-boo kits need potassium permanganate, since it can be used to disinfect wounds (fine powder, not the pool-cleaning crystals) and when combined with glycerin it creates a fire equivalent to slow-burning black powder.
This was excellent! Thank you all for bringing valid information to alot of peoples eyes, including my own.
This video is exactly on point. It should be mandatory watching for all wannabe preppers
Thank you guys!!
Knowing how to make what is needed... that is some good skills to have.
Well even if you grow a garden. How you going to fertilize it or spray for bug worms. Then how you going to keep everyone else out of it 24 hrs a day. People hungry are going to get whatever they can to feed the family or their self. Good video.
Add-on, check expiration dates...example, a "friend came to me and asked what I thought of his kit, it was a good "boo-boo kit" until we looked at the pain reliever pills 5 years out of date, Neosporin tube dry, I kid you not, dry.
In a depression type collapse.... Has anyone talked about the massive amounts of bodies from Rest Homes, and suicides, and violence ?
What I have wondered is: when there is mass death for any reason, what are the people wearing that go clean up the mess? Bio-hazard suits. Why? Because there is a massive amount of bacteria in the atmosphere in those situations. Most people in the know predict a 70 to 90% population loss in an SHTF. That means the people left are going to have a big problem with body's and disposal in lots of places. There wont be enough people and time to bury them.
Everyone should have their own bodybag.
Straight talk no BS . l'm old and broke down I know the reality of it and pray we never have to face the end game but I still prepare
Ive had to read people for a living for a long time I can tell when someone is full of it. Most on UA-cam are. So if your gonna watch someone and trust your life with there advise trust these three men.
@The RightStuff they are not perfect but better than most.
Glad I'm not Chris's neighbor.
Dang. Y’all are spot on!
Sounds like solid information. Thank you.
I'm gonna invest in getting fat so I'll survive longer and no one could take it from me... = )
Take this shit and make it work. Best quote ever.
If you can get out of a gun-fight ... stay out of it, don't go back in. The tool that is "you" is more useful alive to others and those you love than dead or wounded.
Be a hero along the way if you want / can, but don't go looking for a fight, ever.
Also, a great area to live is along or not far from a coast ... coastal foraging and fishing is way easier than going to the woods to hunt. And, whilst foraging, you can pretty easily get enough food for 1 person for 1 day. There is seaweed that you can eat, plants further in-land. And because fish is a lot smaller than game, there is little to no preservation or storage to take care of. Get it eat it.
Shoot a deer, boar, or other large game, you'll have a tone more work to do.
And living near the sea offers a great way to get salt, just boil some seawater. So your food won't be constantly bland if you haven't stocked up on stuff.
On the idea of hunting daily, what about the invasive species of boar in Texas? Could they be a realibe source of food?
Just watching this now, 3? Years after you made the video...
Great lessons, and soooo true!
I lived on a boat in the northeast for 20 years, which is basically “glamping”. I can assure anyone watching this, there is more truth and wisdom bestowed in this video than most others I’ve watched. ( and I’ve been bingeing for a while now.)
“A mans gotta know his limitations...”
Dirty Harry
Great video, love the format.
Knowledge through failure. Yes!
You guys are straight up front. As far as first aid not enough people plan for stomach and foot issues. Trapping beats hunting. and if you have never done at least backpacking for 3 days you are screwed. Also, there is going to be so much death within the first 90 days. The ones that survive more than 90 days are going to be the most proficient/knowledgeable/practical/deadly humans.
Good Words of Wisdom. thanks God Bless
i know that its vital that you have others but how long has a person actually lived inthe wilderness alone? i wont try this but i am curious about it.
I've always got some super glue in my little boo boo kit. to help close up and stop the bleeding of smaller shallow cuts.
When shit hits the fan, the biggest "gang" is the one to survive.
Well said
i think that i prefer the romance of wilderness survival to the reality.
You and everyone else who has never had a real taste of it. It's full of romantic notions but the reality is scratching and scraping for every basic thing that comes nearly effortlessly in civilization
@@fixerupperer yeah i know. i would prefer it to be in survival games cuz i kow the romantic ideas arent real.
Is it true that suvival guys always wear khaki, olive green or a Camo combo?
Thanks very informative. And yes your right it will be one big suck fest.
Great reality check!
Well I don't think it would be fun to bug out... That's a hard life.. I was homeless in my car for 1 yr. 9 mo. And 13 days. I had a job but couldent afford to pay rent. Buying food preparing it. And keeping clean . that's hard. I lived it. Knowing where you can throw your trash. Finding a place to sleep that's safe. It was very hard. And i had 2 kids with me. Your right. It ain't no picnic in the park. Abba a SHTF. Living in the woods. Boy very tough living. You all sure made sence to me. Its not a pleasant thought to try to survive in the woods. I do know foraging and i eat real good in the spring and summer. (You can't buy food like that in the stores) but some of the this your gathering has to be cooked. Some has to be boiled a few times. You would defiantly need a good water source that's clean. Then fall and winter that fresh food is gone. Its seasonal. Plus people don't think off the laws. I don't look forward to bugging out. And you need skills to survive.
Successful hunter-gatherers are and were undertaken as group activities, just like agricultural food production. Paleobiologists have found that the development of the human brain was accelerated by the availability of animal fats -- as you might expect to find in a mastodon, for example. Survival of the species after the widespread availability of such game depended on domesticated animals and the improved adaptation to starches and proteins from agricultural products. Now we are eating food-like ingredients which have been introduced at a rate far faster than our heredity can accommodate. Chronic disease and death are the result . . .
On the topic of hunting find your favorite hunting area and have your friends throw a party up range let me know how many animals you see. I always run into deer when I'm walking out to my car and not when I'm looking.
Lol. Me too see them when I'm driving. . i don't hunt big game.
Cannibalism is a great option also ! Lol
I personally would not choose Florida for survival living.
Hold on a second there guy. The majority of supplies in my kit are still in their package and i have tested them. Its very ignorant to think that just becaause an item is still packaged, the user must be unfamiliar with it.
I happen to test something and if it's good, i'll purchase a 2nd or 3rd and leave it it's package. Why do I leave it in it's package? Because everything has at least some potential to be re purposed, and in a emergency/survival situation, that packaging may come in handy.
If you guys know a swat officer that has the mentality that taking by force is ok when lawlessness occurs, you might need to report the guy. If he thinks like this, he doesn't have the moral compass to be a cop.
"Those who live by the sword, die by the sword" * some emperor from antiquity
GOOD VIDEO FELLAS! AS A VETERAN WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT SNOWFLAKES THAT CAN'T HANDLE ANY STRESS LET ALONE SHTF! BE ALOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE CRYING & DIEING! GOD BLESS AMERICA! UNCLE JEFF!
Great round table. Gave folks a lot to think about. Yup need to set you standers nice and low.... LOL
Are you guys sure I'm not going to make it? Haha!
The most chatty guy on the couch is the least experienced, and as Allen put it you’re kidding yourself unless your fit. Uh humm...🤭
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Go camping for more than a week and find out how your shit works, don't matter cold wet the better. But try it. Was Army 12yrs and it's tougher and rougher than you think can it be done sure am I tough enough don't know
The myth that you can patch a wound (especially a bullet wound) with a tampon, must stop. It is just stupid, and dangerous. Carry real hemostatic agents.
B M I actually heard a guy that’s a registered paramedic say that’s what he would do. I decided right there if I need emergency medical care I don’t want him touching me.
If you're having to patch bullet wounds with tampons you're in a world of hurt already.
Training, training, and training..... physical training, skills/common tasks training, IWQ training, team/squad/family level training, platoon/group level training. I believe in iodine in my small boo-boo kit....since I can also disinfect water. And no one is gonna run to the woods and just "live off the land" and survive. I'm bugging in...not out. Preparedness is the best course IMO. Do you know how to salt cure meat....smoke house cure....put up peas, beans, corn, and other garden items, render soap??? It's time to learn I believe....
yes! this video is one of the best survival videos i've seen. they pointed out how in an active shooter situation, you shouldn't be shooting unless necessary because first responders won't know who is the real enemy shooter. you're not going to be able to go in the woods and survive by hunting animals and you're not going to be able to attack others to steal food. i can't watch videos that say those things. maybe you have a bug out location, but what if someone gets there first? and physical fitness is a big thing! i can't listen to someone who's breathing hard just going through his kit. do you really think you're going to survive? and last but not least: train your family!! there's no such thing as rambo in real life. a very few select pepople could be rambo, but then you add in family and little kids, you're not gonna be able to protect your wife, a baby and a teenager 100% of the time with only what you're carrying. i think even someone as young as five could learn proper gun handling and kids are great at catching frogs and stuff. kids can be used as something in your situation. no reason a ten year old can't be carrying a rifle and learning how to dress game. most survival/prepping guys i see think they'll be the MAN and women are tertiary to their plans. does your wife know how to operate your hand guns and rifles? home defense in a regular situation: what if you're out of town? your wife is gonna need to know proper procedures.
there's a few "survivalists" on youtube i've just laughed at. they're like the air softers of survival. 100 pounds over weight but have 100 rounds of ammo on their kit and a pencil sharpener for making tinder. ugh.
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