Different for each individual case, when young fit etc I was get over the physical pain in about 3-4 days, as I aged it got much longer about a week to 10 days while in my 50. On the 3 or 4 times I was on methadone, the withdrawals took close to a year each. Then at around 62 yo after around 45 years of use ranging from once a week to 10 times daily I woke up with this distinct feeling that that something in the grand scheme of things had changed. It took 30 minutes of self reflection to figure that the whole obsession was over had the dependency had ended. What a roller coaster ride that was
There is a line between severe chronic pain issues (pulverized spine) n getting high. I find that the trauma is always when I try to go through a 40 day program. The world doesn't gaze upon a pain patient for after a decade of treatment the amount of medication needed is so high, up to a gram of morphine sulfate equivalent. The trauma is severe enough that I teared up reading your comments 😪 God grant me serenity to accept the things I must, the courage to change the things I can as well as the wisdom to know the difference Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. I'm no theocratic yet I'm really, really fucked.
Just when you think it's over Booooooooom it comes back for you and knocs your mental health sideways. Your sleep comes back after a month of being awake in pain. Then when you wake up in the erly hours of the morning negative thoughts come fluding in ending your day before it even beggins.
Man I don't miss being sick all the time! I used for a little over 10 years and the last year or so I was always sick a few days out of every week due to not having money and being at rock bottom, it was such a miserable existence. If it weren't for Suboxone I know I'd still be using or probably dead or in prison. December 10th I'll have 2 years clean from heroin/fentanyl. I never thought I'd able to say that. Thanks for your videos doctor B! I've learned a lot from them the last couple years.
I was on opiates for 22 years, prescribed meds, then buying more in the street, I had my back surgery and was in pretty good shape with my pain, one day I decided that I want to live so I went to my doctor and told him what I was doing, ethically he couldn’t prescribe to me anymore, he set me up with an addiction doctor and I’m 17-1/2 months off of them, I’m tapering off of Suboxone now, I’m down to 2mg, on my way to 1mg, this can be done, it’s a question of what it is that you want for yourself, you can’t quit because someone else wants you to, you have to do it because you have made up your mind that this is what I want for me. I’m just one person, everyone is different and it’s not easy, but it is possible. Hope this helps just one person get well sometime soon. 🙏🏽
@@Hfdbha I started at 8mg 2 years ago, I’ve tapered down to 2mg on my own, and I just tapered again, today is day 4 on 1mg, next month will be 2 years for me, I feel pretty good, I don’t crave them when im awake, but I keep having dreams about taking oxy, I wake up thinking I blew it and I feel horrible until I realize it was just a dream. 🤦🏽♂️
True... I've had to do both... 5 years free from benzos thank God and 1.5 years off opiates. Both due to an accident in 2014. I have a lot of pain still but those 2 drugs are awful.
White knuckles and a fake smile then a relapse…came out really doing well and a relapse…overdose, thank you to a lady in the parking lot where I OD. Now I’m 11 months clean and sober, longest time without since 15 years old and I will be 42 on December 22. Feel good, look good, think about it everyday but not as much everyday!!!
Congratulations on 11 months clean Matt! That's a really big deal and you should be proud of yourself, I'm definitely proud of you. Keep on keepin on! You got this.
I'm on day 14 off 8mg sub strips after 16 years. Suboxone saved my life, but Buprenorphine is no joke. My doc and I tapered down to .25mgs, but I started getting light symptoms after a few days of .25 mgs so I don't think that low dose did much for me. Aside from insomnia and mild symptoms, Im ok.
Try taking a Benzodiazapines of any type of a Z-drug (Zopiclone or Zolpidem) as that will help you with the transition of tapering down because my mate rattled hard and that was just off 5ml or Methadone but when he took some Diazepam (Valium), Temazepam and Zopiclone basically anything to take the edge off he actually came through to the other side. Just only take them for 2-3 weeks no longer because you really don't want a Benzodiazapines addiction as a rattle for that can kill! Anyway good luck and we'll done my friend. 🇬🇧👍
@@hitechmechanical8258 No it's not. I was on 8mg subs for 16 years. I jumped from .25mgs and other than some insomnia, I didn't feel dope sick at all. I'm on day 10 and turning the corner. When I was on Oxy, the pain and horror was too much.
haha the ,,worst flue,, Jeez, My whole Covid infection I was on oxygen, pneumonia and a massive fever was an erotic honeymoon comparing it to some flue. Brrrr.
Opioids are worse. I'd be willing to put my life on it. I'm on day 44 today cold turkey off 16mil brup. Just stopped out of the blue. And I deeply regret this bc I'm still not bouncing back !!!
I used to be against long term MAT treatment for wd but I’m here to say the odds are very stacked against you for relapse if you do NOT get on AT KEAST a 3 month sub taper. Why, you will 100% get your life back, stop doing risky/illegal behavior, spending money, and risking overdose. Your cravings will go away and u will be amazed how good u feel. Now, I will say, I don’t think I need to be on 8 or 16mg every day the rest of your life but I think 2-4 mg a day will keep u out of trouble and if u want to come off those later in after you’re very stable then do so
240mg per day of oxycodone divided into 2 doses and 3 5mg valium a day plus testosterone shot once a week Feel Great No Pain etc. Problem Is That I thought I could do it cold turkey at home and Withdrawals Hit Me Sooooo Hard within 24hrs that my mind was flipping in and out of reality aswell as no sleep and chills, over heating and diarrhoea etc etc etc. Now I'm studying drug and alcohol counsellor course at tafe there's a HUGE Difference between Dependence and Addiction,, People with Severe chronic pain should Never fear dependence whilst taking narcotic pain medication for their Pain,especially if the alternative is being bed ridden in pain unable to work or study or provide for his family. The part of the opiod user population that takes oxycontin for recreational purposes Destroyed it For legit pain patients to get sufficiently medicated, due to their abuse,misuse of the medication.
Hello Dr.B i really need your answer and i hope you will read this : i've been taking centrax(prazépam) and alprazolam for almost a year and half for my anxiety and panic attacks , im also a daily weed smoker , i started using my meds therapeuticaly and they helped after a while i started abusing them recreational , it's been 5 days that i didnt take alprazolam , and centrax ( prazepam) im taking 10mg now and i really dont know what to do , the dosage for alprazolam was 0.25/0.50 and recreational i take 1mg to 2mg and for centrax 20mg-30mg , i really dont know what to do , i feel the withdrawls and im managing them but i really dont know what to do , please would really appreciate your help
@@DrBAddictionRecovery in my country , they have poor knowledge about benzodiazepines , i went to many doctors spent so much money just to hear stay on them or use a ssri no one told me to tapper , can you help me with a starting dose and what to do to tapper , i do have alprazolam and do have centrax too ,
@@cefbou1854 unfortunately this guy is not allowed to give medical advice like that over youtube. But there are forums on this subject you can find through Google searches. Good luck.
Different for each individual case, when young fit etc I was get over the physical pain in about 3-4 days, as I aged it got much longer about a week to 10 days while in my 50.
On the 3 or 4 times I was on methadone, the withdrawals took close to a year each.
Then at around 62 yo after around 45 years of use ranging from once a week to 10 times daily I woke up with this distinct feeling that that something in the grand scheme of things had changed. It took 30 minutes of self reflection to figure that the whole obsession was over had the dependency had ended.
What a roller coaster ride that was
Wd is so traumatizing
It really is. You don't really realize just how traumatizing it is until you have some clean time.
There is a line between severe chronic pain issues (pulverized spine) n getting high. I find that the trauma is always when I try to go through a 40 day program. The world doesn't gaze upon a pain patient for after a decade of treatment the amount of medication needed is so high, up to a gram of morphine sulfate equivalent. The trauma is severe enough that I teared up reading your comments 😪
God grant me serenity to accept the things I must, the courage to change the things I can as well as the wisdom to know the difference
Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
I'm no theocratic yet I'm really, really fucked.
@@pinealeye8578 Im hoping you find comfort and peace. I feel your pain. Its crazy how most of us started out as pain patients. I know I did. 💞 🙏
Just when you think it's over
Booooooooom it comes back for you and knocs your mental health sideways. Your sleep comes back after a month of being awake in pain. Then when you wake up in the erly hours of the morning negative thoughts come fluding in ending your day before it even beggins.
That's my problem mourning anxiety kills me
Man I don't miss being sick all the time! I used for a little over 10 years and the last year or so I was always sick a few days out of every week due to not having money and being at rock bottom, it was such a miserable existence. If it weren't for Suboxone I know I'd still be using or probably dead or in prison. December 10th I'll have 2 years clean from heroin/fentanyl. I never thought I'd able to say that. Thanks for your videos doctor B! I've learned a lot from them the last couple years.
You're very welcome, thank you for watching. I'm glad they've been helpful 🙏
u aint clean if youre on suboxone now. you exchanged an addition for another addiction
@@treethefiend Hes clean off the hard drugs and thats a positive
@@jasonpavlak2055Thats true and I agree with you. A lot of people who are pout on suboxone will start abusing it to get high.
@@treethefiend abusing suboxone? If put in subs you only get high the first day or two, after that it levels off and nothing. All about tolerance also
I do not recommend methadone to anyone I had a nasty habit of that stuff and it screwed fifteen years of my life up. Suboxone is the way to go
I was on opiates for 22 years, prescribed meds, then buying more in the street, I had my back surgery and was in pretty good shape with my pain, one day I decided that I want to live so I went to my doctor and told him what I was doing, ethically he couldn’t prescribe to me anymore, he set me up with an addiction doctor and I’m 17-1/2 months off of them, I’m tapering off of Suboxone now, I’m down to 2mg, on my way to 1mg, this can be done, it’s a question of what it is that you want for yourself, you can’t quit because someone else wants you to, you have to do it because you have made up your mind that this is what I want for me. I’m just one person, everyone is different and it’s not easy, but it is possible. Hope this helps just one person get well sometime soon. 🙏🏽
One of the biggest problems was that people were never given a proper taper from opiates my their doctors. And became addicted
@@Hfdbha I started at 8mg 2 years ago, I’ve tapered down to 2mg on my own, and I just tapered again, today is day 4 on 1mg, next month will be 2 years for me, I feel pretty good, I don’t crave them when im awake, but I keep having dreams about taking oxy, I wake up thinking I blew it and I feel horrible until I realize it was just a dream. 🤦🏽♂️
@@stevieg4201 yup. The infamous drug dreams. They will go away after a while
Child's play compared to benzos!
True... I've had to do both... 5 years free from benzos thank God and 1.5 years off opiates. Both due to an accident in 2014. I have a lot of pain still but those 2 drugs are awful.
benzos are bad to get off of. i did it felt like a heartattack every minute
@@rhillzbob absolutely awful.. they are given long term by doctors but they really shouldn't be used like they are
Yup. And not dangerous. Agreed!
@@suzanna6 agreed
Id give enything to just have the flu but ratteling is like deth
Keep in mind we said the worst flu and the flu can kill. Just an analogy
White knuckles and a fake smile then a relapse…came out really doing well and a relapse…overdose, thank you to a lady in the parking lot where I OD. Now I’m 11 months clean and sober, longest time without since 15 years old and I will be 42 on December 22. Feel good, look good, think about it everyday but not as much everyday!!!
Congratulations on 11 months clean Matt! That's a really big deal and you should be proud of yourself, I'm definitely proud of you. Keep on keepin on! You got this.
@@MontanaChase208 thank you so much
Well done. I commend you
I'm on day 14 off 8mg sub strips after 16 years. Suboxone saved my life, but Buprenorphine is no joke. My doc and I tapered down to .25mgs, but I started getting light symptoms after a few days of .25 mgs so I don't think that low dose did much for me. Aside from insomnia and mild symptoms, Im ok.
Try taking a Benzodiazapines of any type of a Z-drug (Zopiclone or Zolpidem) as that will help you with the transition of tapering down because my mate rattled hard and that was just off 5ml or Methadone but when he took some Diazepam (Valium), Temazepam and Zopiclone basically anything to take the edge off he actually came through to the other side. Just only take them for 2-3 weeks no longer because you really don't want a Benzodiazapines addiction as a rattle for that can kill! Anyway good luck and we'll done my friend. 🇬🇧👍
good luck
Can you do a video on SOMA (Carisoprodol) and its effects and recovery?
thank god for methadone and buprenorphine.
That’s worst
@@hitechmechanical8258 No it's not. I was on 8mg subs for 16 years. I jumped from .25mgs and other than some insomnia, I didn't feel dope sick at all. I'm on day 10 and turning the corner. When I was on Oxy, the pain and horror was too much.
@@rickp3753 hi Rick do you take subutex or suboxone? And when do you take your dose after the last use?
@@prateekkumar4295 I started taking suboxone 16 years ago. 8 mg strips. I had to wait a couple days to get the script. It's a life saver.
@@rickp3753currently on methadone, trying to taper down so I can get on suboxone
haha the ,,worst flue,, Jeez, My whole Covid infection I was on oxygen, pneumonia and a massive fever was an erotic honeymoon comparing it to some flue. Brrrr.
Opioids are worse. I'd be willing to put my life on it. I'm on day 44 today cold turkey off 16mil brup. Just stopped out of the blue. And I deeply regret this bc I'm still not bouncing back !!!
Taper
I think it's too latte for that now. I just wish I could have been able to ask for help.
@@rawvizion4125 not too late. Taper
I used to be against long term MAT treatment for wd but I’m here to say the odds are very stacked against you for relapse if you do NOT get on AT KEAST a 3 month sub taper. Why, you will 100% get your life back, stop doing risky/illegal behavior, spending money, and risking overdose. Your cravings will go away and u will be amazed how good u feel. Now, I will say, I don’t think I need to be on 8 or 16mg every day the rest of your life but I think 2-4 mg a day will keep u out of trouble and if u want to come off those later in after you’re very stable then do so
This is 20 times the strength of the flu
This guy gets paid by suboxen
That’s against the law rockstar. If you give public info that is a matter of life and death.. know your sh ..t!
Suboxone is replacing an opioid with another
and your degree is in what?
@@AngelGabrielB may be true but it's the safer alternative, than doing heroin
240mg per day of oxycodone divided into 2 doses and 3 5mg valium a day plus testosterone shot once a week Feel Great No Pain etc. Problem Is That I thought I could do it cold turkey at home and Withdrawals Hit Me Sooooo Hard within 24hrs that my mind was flipping in and out of reality aswell as no sleep and chills, over heating and diarrhoea etc etc etc. Now I'm studying drug and alcohol counsellor course at tafe there's a HUGE Difference between Dependence and Addiction,, People with Severe chronic pain should Never fear dependence whilst taking narcotic pain medication for their Pain,especially if the alternative is being bed ridden in pain unable to work or study or provide for his family. The part of the opiod user population that takes oxycontin for recreational purposes Destroyed it For legit pain patients to get sufficiently medicated, due to their abuse,misuse of the medication.
Yea, Its no flu, its more like a trip to hell, theirs no description, the only thing different from hell & hell on earth, is your still breathing.
Hello Dr.B i really need your answer and i hope you will read this : i've been taking centrax(prazépam) and alprazolam for almost a year and half for my anxiety and panic attacks , im also a daily weed smoker , i started using my meds therapeuticaly and they helped after a while i started abusing them recreational , it's been 5 days that i didnt take alprazolam , and centrax ( prazepam) im taking 10mg now and i really dont know what to do , the dosage for alprazolam was 0.25/0.50 and recreational i take 1mg to 2mg and for centrax 20mg-30mg , i really dont know what to do , i feel the withdrawls and im managing them but i really dont know what to do , please would really appreciate your help
Can’t give real medical advice but dangerous. Need slow planned taper. With a knowledgeable provider. Hope this helps
@@DrBAddictionRecovery in my country , they have poor knowledge about benzodiazepines , i went to many doctors spent so much money just to hear stay on them or use a ssri no one told me to tapper , can you help me with a starting dose and what to do to tapper , i do have alprazolam and do have centrax too ,
@@cefbou1854 look up the Ashton Manuel for a good benzo taper guide.
@@cefbou1854 unfortunately this guy is not allowed to give medical advice like that over youtube.
But there are forums on this subject you can find through Google searches. Good luck.