Both of these women are impossible, but at least Mary shows love to Sheldon. He can be hard to love. Some parents will never be pleased like Leonard's mother. They aren't happy bc they don't want to be.
@@KianHasanzade-n1n what she lacked in sense, she made up for in love. Leonard's mother was sensible, but not the sense to love her son for who he turned out to be.
The line makes sense in the show though, as Leonards mother thinks she is enlightened because of how intelligent she is, she thinks they are the same thing because she lacks emotional intelligence.
It 's humorous on TV, but if you have a real life narcissistic mother, then it is ANYTHING but humorous. Even so, you have to find humor in their insecure arrogance.
Are you talking about sheldon's mom or leonard's mom. Because they are both narcissist in their own way. One is probably a psychopath and another is a autistic religious nut.
If it counts, I always found the scenes with Leonard and his mom even just the discussions he has about her way too disturbing and infuriating to be funny. I truly couldn't get what's so funny about a terrible mother. This for me was the biggest red flag of the show.
She was neurotic, never took interest in Missy and all about Sheldon.. George Jr was never important to her either. Super religious but had a thing for the youth pastor?
@@veekatore8983She fought with George to not kick him out and tried to save Georgie's soul multiple times. Not to mention her accepting Mandy. There's a whole episode about her trying to get a special trophy for Missy so she feels special. And shows interest in her life multiple times. She just doesn't let the kids do whatever they want
@Markus2E5I6 i got ya, she was not horrible but she was far too much favoring Sheldon. The one where they paid George to test Missy and Sleldon? Missy helped the woman dr to attract the male dr?..lol but she said she was on team Missy all alone.. The best show in decades . Missy and Meemaw ruled and was hooked the 1st time I saw it! I wasn't a big bang fan at all either?..
BECAUSE of this. If you have aweful parents usually the kids try to be the complete opposite since they know how hurtful this behaviour is from experience.
The thing is that sheldon's psychological problems were made by other people but not his mom. Leonard's on the other hand primarily were created by his mother. Leonard is totally broken despite the show trying to make it less apparent since it was comedy.
@prv31wn no. No, he didn't. The closest he got to "cheating" was buying his neighbor a beer and having a heart attack. Keep reaching. George was a great husband. Maybe he drank too much, but having a son like Sheldon....I don't blame him.
@@amandafletcher8680 watch BBT when Sheldon talks about why he knocks on doors three times. It was because he walked in on his dad and another woman. Mary also talks about it on the BBT. Now he was a good father but not always a great husband
@@Zlnfgzwell Sheldon characters can be annoying sometimes. Totally agree but at the end of the show, at least the directors gave him some great changes. However Leonard mother is unbelievable.
That's because Missy never mattered to her. Sheldon was the centre of the universe. Same reason she treated George like shit, because he dared to give Missy attention and tried to parent all three of their children
I get that leonards mother is a scientist and rejects all religions but i hated her for the way she treated leonard. And i hated it even more when he forgave her. All that build up of a horrible woman and their ending was so unsatisfying. Wouldve preferred it if he cut her off and said he doesnt need her negativity in his life. Im athiest myself but i definitely know who id rather have as a mother.
Does anyone else notice the inconsistencies in writing. Mary from “Young Sheldon” would never have referred to George as Sheldon’s “dumbass daddy”. Mary is a lot harder in TBBT
@@harrisshob5819 Sheldon walked in with Mary dressed up like a German milkmaid and thought George was cheating. He did flirt with Brenda but Mary flirted with the youth Pastor 🤷♂️ nothing came of those flirtations. George never cheated.
I think she would. They were married for a long time. It’s normal and human to be irritated at your partner sometimes and say things you might not necessarily mean. I have no trouble imagining a pissed off, pregnant mary driving herself to church muttering furiously because George did something to make her angry before she left. That doesn’t mean she didn’t love or respect him. Mary’s the type of character who believes everything happens for a reason. I don’t think she’s taking a shot at George here, I think she’s genuinely telling everyone what she thinks happened to make Sheldon is so smart: She prayed out of sheer irritation at her husband, and God responded by giving her a son that would test her patience more than George ever could.
We are laughing because it's a comedy show but if we had characters like Sheldon and Leonard's mother in real life, am sure they wouldn't have anyone else around to have "highly intellectual conversations"
I’m weak her and the young Sheldon mom’s actress make the same face movements 😭☠️😂 Edit: I just found out there mom and daughter that would explain alot
They shoukd have thrown the hole TBBT cannon out the wondow woth Young Sheldon. That show made the charscters of Mary and to slme extent Sheldon a lot more likeable. Of course thats probably was a good chunk of the actors who protayed them.
Leonards mom doesnt get to use the word "enlightened" when she is so utterly emotionally blind to somthing in her life that actually matters, like her son. Mary cooper has many flaws, as all people do, but she certainly makes sure her son knows she loves him. Leonards mom cant say that
Seeing these clips with older Mary is not goes old well. Not after seeing how wonderful George was. Now everytime she said anything bad about George, i despise her😅
Leonard’s mom is right, and Mary is a damn fool, but this show is written to make fools feel smart so it’s making you all side w the fool and you’re patting yourselves on the back for it
Sheldon's audacity comes from his mother's love. He was allowed to be himself to the fullest. Leonard had to be in point for his mom; constantly proving that he was intelligent enough to stand next to her.
Sheldon’s mom is incorrect. If laying together made you married, there would be no such thing as fornication. You’d be married as soon as you did it, meaning there could never be premarital sex. If sex = marriage, then all sex is marital sex. Mary appeals to a false teaching.
You edited out the part where Mary says "I looked over at the car next to me and on the dash there was a Jesus bobble head nodding yes" and that's why beverly slapped her forehead
Ugh, I can't stand it, tv writers are always insulting Christians's intelligence. Christianity is not like that. Many being more educated than most people.
One thing i dont loke what they did with Mary character is change it that she always puts down her late husband . But he was a good man in the show. Not a bumb and stupid.
This show, which i have watched all the way through multiple times, has a cast fully of toxic women and then one that is actually worth looking up to and that is amy
Mary is the only character that can stand up to Leonard's mother.
She doesn't either. She just doesn't care about Leonard's mom or her opinions.
@@Beezlie727 I think this pisses Beverley off more, Mary doesn’t care about her opinion she holds her ground and even mocks her in the same manner.
Agreed
Because they are two sides of the same coin 🥸
She also slept with beverlys ex husband 💀💀
"How could someone as kind, empathetic person like Leonard could come from a person like you"
Ooo, I really like your comment! 😊
He’s probably that way because of dealing with her his entire life.
@@DavidJordan-cf5md:
Exactly the point. Refresh my memory, who was the angry one, Sheldon or Leonard?
Because she trained him that way
Leonard is very unkind selfish and mean like A LOT of times. He just doesn't seem worse than the rest
Both of these women are impossible, but at least Mary shows love to Sheldon. He can be hard to love. Some parents will never be pleased like Leonard's mother. They aren't happy bc they don't want to be.
You cannot compare Sheldon’s mother to Leonard’s mother. Mary is a saint. She’s kind and loving. Leonard’s mother is terrible.
@@tunzlunz only to leonard treats her other unknown children far better
Leonard’s mom showed Shelly some love too
At least she does not treat her kid as an experiment
@@tunzlunzsaint? Hahahahahaha
"Oh don't flatter yourself, she likes everyone better than she likes me" bro gave himself emotional damage😂
😂😂
Technically his mother gave him emotional damage
@@pinkeysherbet7249 Yup, I agree w/your assessment. If anything, he was well aware of his history and limitations.
"how can someone as enlightened as Sheldon come from someone like you" says the terrible mother.
I mean Mary wasn't the greatest mother either
@@KianHasanzade-n1n what she lacked in sense, she made up for in love. Leonard's mother was sensible, but not the sense to love her son for who he turned out to be.
@@audreydoyle5268 i'd rather be loved than chase the love from a parent, that as the child i am entitled to
Isn’t it cool the mother Mary from Young Sheldon & the mother Mary from TBBT are real life mother & daughter. ❤
Seriously?!! Wow, that is one genius casting choice 🤯
😮😮really?
Yes
No wonder they look so alike
No way! I was thinking they looked alike. And that it’s was really good casting 😅
I just love that Sheldon's mom is played by a mother daughter Duo there's so much alike
Sheldon is not enlightened, he's intelligent. There is a difference.
Absolutely, an enormous difference. They are not synonyms in any way
He's like.. the opposite of enlightened
The line makes sense in the show though, as Leonards mother thinks she is enlightened because of how intelligent she is, she thinks they are the same thing because she lacks emotional intelligence.
@@gmc1966they’re synonyms
sheldon is Autistic, which is a form of enlightenment
It 's humorous on TV, but if you have a real life narcissistic mother, then it is ANYTHING but humorous. Even so, you have to find humor in their insecure arrogance.
Are you talking about sheldon's mom or leonard's mom. Because they are both narcissist in their own way. One is probably a psychopath and another is a autistic religious nut.
I have a brother like that. We don't talk anymore. 😂
I was in a narc relationship I couldn’t imagine what it would be like having parents or siblings like that my condolences
If it counts, I always found the scenes with Leonard and his mom even just the discussions he has about her way too disturbing and infuriating to be funny. I truly couldn't get what's so funny about a terrible mother. This for me was the biggest red flag of the show.
MIL is a narc. Loves only the other one
I love Sheldon's mom so much.
She was neurotic, never took interest in Missy and all about Sheldon.. George Jr was never important to her either. Super religious but had a thing for the youth pastor?
The young sheldon series destroys her older character. Now i despise her whenever she talk bad about George
@@veekatore8983She fought with George to not kick him out and tried to save Georgie's soul multiple times. Not to mention her accepting Mandy.
There's a whole episode about her trying to get a special trophy for Missy so she feels special. And shows interest in her life multiple times. She just doesn't let the kids do whatever they want
@Markus2E5I6 i got ya, she was not horrible but she was far too much favoring Sheldon. The one where they paid George to test Missy and Sleldon? Missy helped the woman dr to attract the male dr?..lol but she said she was on team Missy all alone.. The best show in decades . Missy and Meemaw ruled and was hooked the 1st time I saw it! I wasn't a big bang fan at all either?..
How can someone as kind as leonard come from her?
BECAUSE of this. If you have aweful parents usually the kids try to be the complete opposite since they know how hurtful this behaviour is from experience.
Sometimes kids reject their parents habits. I know brothers who are both Very conservative after being raised in a hippie commune with no rules.
@@summersun6536yes
The thing is that sheldon's psychological problems were made by other people but not his mom. Leonard's on the other hand primarily were created by his mother. Leonard is totally broken despite the show trying to make it less apparent since it was comedy.
nah Sheldon's mother was terrible and fed into his issues especially his superiority complex
Laurie Metcalf is an excellent actress!
One of my favorites!
I think Leonard's mom is a sociopath.
My mother liked all my friends more than she liked me so it’s bittersweet that you help me laugh TYSM
Hearing Mrs Cooper talk shyte on her dead husband broke my heart. George was a good man, darnit.
Agreed. I love George but cannot stand Mary in either version.nor Sheldon on BBT. The actors are talented to be so consistently unlikeable.
Sheldon is autistic. The aim is to see how functional autism works. Leonard Mom and Sheldon have that in common@@alicemcknight6335
George cheated on his wife a couple of times Sheldon walked in on him once... Mary knew about a couple of them
@prv31wn no. No, he didn't. The closest he got to "cheating" was buying his neighbor a beer and having a heart attack. Keep reaching. George was a great husband. Maybe he drank too much, but having a son like Sheldon....I don't blame him.
@@amandafletcher8680 watch BBT when Sheldon talks about why he knocks on doors three times. It was because he walked in on his dad and another woman. Mary also talks about it on the BBT. Now he was a good father but not always a great husband
Leonard's mother is the only character who isn't kinda charming. She's the absolute worst person in the world
The Actress plays her perfectly.
I agree with you -I can't stand her at all.
Looks like you haven't looked at Sheldon properly...
@@Zlnfgzwell Sheldon characters can be annoying sometimes. Totally agree but at the end of the show, at least the directors gave him some great changes.
However Leonard mother is unbelievable.
@@hannahabigail909 She did change a little. And she is charming to scientific study.
Who ever wrote TBBT and got the idea to do young Sheldon definitely didn't compare plot lines.
I think they did. Jim Parsons (actor who played Sheldon) was a director of "Young Sheldon"
That sounds like both my parents... they like everyone more than they like me!
At least I know I'm not alone in this world!
"When I was pregnant with Shelly..." She didnt say "the twins" or mention his twin sister, Missy. Just "Shelly."
Well he was the topic of conversation at that point.
That's because Missy never mattered to her. Sheldon was the centre of the universe. Same reason she treated George like shit, because he dared to give Missy attention and tried to parent all three of their children
I get that leonards mother is a scientist and rejects all religions but i hated her for the way she treated leonard. And i hated it even more when he forgave her. All that build up of a horrible woman and their ending was so unsatisfying. Wouldve preferred it if he cut her off and said he doesnt need her negativity in his life. Im athiest myself but i definitely know who id rather have as a mother.
I get exactly what you mean but
Same
She even gives facepalm like a robot, so unemotionally. I like it! Great way to show ppl that she is IN FACT so detached from normal life lol
Those two ladies are seasoned actresses
Does anyone else notice the inconsistencies in writing. Mary from “Young Sheldon” would never have referred to George as Sheldon’s “dumbass daddy”. Mary is a lot harder in TBBT
They had no idea they would have to completely write the George back story. They even had to rewrite Sheldon's feeling for his dad
he cheated on her… maybe thats what did it
According to the new lore, he didn't. Mary was roleplaying with a wing in bed and Sheldon thought it was another woman 😂@@harrisshob5819
This episode came out way before George was fully developed in the new Sheldon show.
@@harrisshob5819 Sheldon walked in with Mary dressed up like a German milkmaid and thought George was cheating. He did flirt with Brenda but Mary flirted with the youth Pastor 🤷♂️ nothing came of those flirtations. George never cheated.
George Cooper wasn't dumb in any way, and I don't think she would call him dumb
I think she would. They were married for a long time. It’s normal and human to be irritated at your partner sometimes and say things you might not necessarily mean. I have no trouble imagining a pissed off, pregnant mary driving herself to church muttering furiously because George did something to make her angry before she left. That doesn’t mean she didn’t love or respect him. Mary’s the type of character who believes everything happens for a reason. I don’t think she’s taking a shot at George here, I think she’s genuinely telling everyone what she thinks happened to make Sheldon is so smart: She prayed out of sheer irritation at her husband, and God responded by giving her a son that would test her patience more than George ever could.
Mary had her kids very young. George was dumb when he was younger. He himself said he partied a lot and drank everyday when she was pregnant
Remember they wrote all this backstory FIRST. Then when they made the prequel, they changed the parents to make them more likable protagonists.
I think she would because he up and suddenly died. Out of grief I would call my husband dumb too if he did that.
You just saw her do it. What you've observed is called nuance
We are laughing because it's a comedy show but if we had characters like Sheldon and Leonard's mother in real life, am sure they wouldn't have anyone else around to have "highly intellectual conversations"
True
Mary is amazing!!!!
Leonard's mom was a monster. Leonard should have been taken from her the moment he was born. One of the most evil, despicable characters in fiction.
Too true, it's ironic that she's a bestselling author of parenting books, that's a joke right there.
She dislikes Mary More than Leonard 😂
I’m weak her and the young Sheldon mom’s actress make the same face movements 😭☠️😂
Edit: I just found out there mom and daughter that would explain alot
Chinese babies are like real life dolls they are so adorable
T.V. always has to make fun of a person with a religious association.
That older version of Sheldon's mother is quite aggressive!!😮
Realizing how well the Young Sheldon actress emulated her facial expressions, it’s really well done
They really nailed young Sheldon's mary, they have the same expressions!!
Sheldon's mom is my favourite ❤
This is a fascinating moment when three radically different women are locked in psychological warfare.
penny breaking character is gold
I'm not religious but I agree with Mary more than Leonard's mom. Her entire career is a joke
I can see where where sheldon gets his sassy wit 😂❤
It killed her that Leonard's dad preferred Mary to her lol
The two moms could make a pretty good odd couple tv series themselves.
Don't argue with Jackie!
That's not how mary would act, she's the most kind hearted strong women plus she is blonde how did she suddenly have brown hair
no
I love Mary Cooper 🥰
They shoukd have thrown the hole TBBT cannon out the wondow woth Young Sheldon. That show made the charscters of Mary and to slme extent Sheldon a lot more likeable. Of course thats probably was a good chunk of the actors who protayed them.
Sheldon's dad was great!!!
the Moms were always a best episode
Two of the greats in the dramatic arts
Leonards mom doesnt get to use the word "enlightened" when she is so utterly emotionally blind to somthing in her life that actually matters, like her son.
Mary cooper has many flaws, as all people do, but she certainly makes sure her son knows she loves him. Leonards mom cant say that
Sheldon’s mom for the win.
my first time realizing the casting of mary for young sheldon is SPOT ON
Sheldon's father was a good father and good man; negative comments about him are totally unreasonable.
Didn’t he have an affair?
mary in this rendition reminds me of my grandma haha
Seeing these clips with older Mary is not goes old well. Not after seeing how wonderful George was. Now everytime she said anything bad about George, i despise her😅
Leonard’s mom is right, and Mary is a damn fool, but this show is written to make fools feel smart so it’s making you all side w the fool and you’re patting yourselves on the back for it
Maybe my favorite scene on the show
I’m glad you like it ❤
Quintessential
Lenny's mom be a fox with that christmas light gatling gun though.
Jackie is awesome, tell me anyone under 35 years of age knows who Jackie is?
Sheldon's audacity comes from his mother's love. He was allowed to be himself to the fullest. Leonard had to be in point for his mom; constantly proving that he was intelligent enough to stand next to her.
If sex = automatic marriage then I guess there is no such thing as oremarital sex
"Maybe because I showed my son love and gave him room to grow instead of using him as a science experiment "
Between Leonard's mom and Sheldon's mom ansld Howard's mom, I choose Raj's mom anyday😂
God I hate Progressive’s attitudes of superiority…
That hitting the forehead is a typical Indian gesture😅
It's actually true, It's called a soul tie
Yes
His mama loves him
Sheldon mom is correct. Bunch of y'all married spiritually and miserable because of it.
Sheldon’s mom is incorrect. If laying together made you married, there would be no such thing as fornication. You’d be married as soon as you did it, meaning there could never be premarital sex. If sex = marriage, then all sex is marital sex. Mary appeals to a false teaching.
no
Christians are constantly mocked in this culture.
And the irony is the name of the show is after an extremely unique biblical concept the big bang theory.
They cut out the bobble head part of Mary’s joke.
In hind sight it's really sad that Mary thinks so little of George considering all the sacrifices he made for them
We dont shame mary cooper ❤
Lol leonard and sheldon were switched at birth; change my mind 😂
The girls are fighting. And their sons too apparently
I should have had a V8
i cant believe leonards mom was the bay harbor dummy
Ive had the same argument with my sister about my mom loving everyone more than me in front of her 😂😂😂 same reaction too nothing but a dirty look
Poor George he was talked about poorly
They crap all over Sheldon dad but he turned out to be the best father you could ever hope for
I like this version of Mary way better than I like young Sheldon's Mary
I can’t believe Mary I turned into that
I’m sorry, but she’ll only ever be Aunt Jackie to me☺️😂.
You edited out the part where Mary says "I looked over at the car next to me and on the dash there was a Jesus bobble head nodding yes" and that's why beverly slapped her forehead
I wonder what would happen if sheldon lived with leonards mother and if leonard lived with sheldons mother.
leanord would be a pastor and sheldon would be the same.
How can she even be a psychiatrist?
Is it really so hard to write the episode number in the description????
Mary is way better in Tbbt then in young Sheldon, she chilled with age
Gimme a show with these two honestly
I would prefer Sheldon's mom...100%. The other woman....NOPE.
it's missing the best part. the jesus bobble head nodding yes to Mary
Sheldons mamas mase sense when it came to lenords "mom" shes a phycopath
Religious people talking about sense. Pure comedy.
Ugh, I can't stand it, tv writers are always insulting Christians's intelligence. Christianity is not like that. Many being more educated than most people.
Christianity is in fact like that
One thing i dont loke what they did with Mary character is change it that she always puts down her late husband .
But he was a good man in the show. Not a bumb and stupid.
Sex consummates a marriage. But it doesn’t create one.
Which episode is this?
The crazy thing is, Sheldon father was a good man. even in death , Mary talks shit about his father. She's horrible
This show, which i have watched all the way through multiple times, has a cast fully of toxic women and then one that is actually worth looking up to and that is amy
I guess that broadcasts such as this led me throw away my televisions 30 yrs ago