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Kazutora been going through some other shit before this happened. The boy is obviously not ok in the head, and even more so after killing shinichiro. Thats a trauma response and he needs therapy so it is understandable to how he got to that conclusion.
I read hell lot of manga but tokyo revengers is a manga with the most plot twist, you won't be able to guess what is coming next, let's just say its gonna be an emotional ride
His mind is fcked up in the first place It's just his mental self defense that he is a good boy (giving present) and protect himself by blaming the other
>Kazutora backstory Spoiler< Kazutora has been a victim of domestic violence since he was a boy. He was bullied by his friends for years and then accidentally killed the brother of his best friend. If he hadn't put the blame on someone else, he would have fallen into psychosis. He needed a coping mechanism and putting the blame on Mikey was the only solution. After Kazutora was in jail for years, he received psychological help there, which is why he can now deal with it. But it's still not quite over. You don't have to read the manga a thousand times to understand a character. Some of yall don‘t see the depth of it, happens if you only read through a manga briefly to read it through. Was everything in Kazutora's backstory, I didn't invent anything.
In the manga there is a scene (in the Sano Bikershop) in which Baji tells Kazutora he is always going to be by he's side, no matter how dark the times get. I think putting that scene in the episode could have helped a lot of people to understand the strong relationship between these two.
During the episode kazutora got high key mad seeing that family having a good time in that restaurant which makes me think one he has a terrible home life and two kazutora thinks attachments cause pain, Thus when he’s trying to do something nice for Mikey he ends up killing his brother; now he’s caught up in all this horrible mental pain because of Mikey‘s attachments so he twisted it and blames Mikey for having that in the first place. Which is why kazutora wants to kill Mikey so he can be free of the guilt of hurting someone who he cares about.
@@romeobentmonegro4765 No problem bro! 😁 Also yeah there are ppl spoiling shiz left and right as a manga reader for this series im ashamed they spoil thing 😐
Sano Shiniciro has charisma that surpasses even anyone, he is not strong in fighting, but he never gives up, just like Takemichi. Sano Shiniciro at that time became the leader of the strongest delinquents in Tokyo. They felt that as long as Sano Shiniciro led them, they would never lose. The strongest delinquent in Tokyo greatly idolized someone even weaker than them, namely Sano Shiniciro
it was nice presentation how guilt is the most destructive feeling possible. It makes us extremelly unstable. --One minute we may feel remorse over our wrong doing, and feel sorry for person we hurt.... --Only to want to kill that person second later, (because our mind tells us that because of him we feel unstable, or for no apparent reason) --Only to feel remorse and sorry again..... It makes extremelly unstable and puts in spiral of being remorseful, or hateful every second......
"kazutora is just messed up and that's his response to trauma as a way to cope" yeah we get that he has issues but that doesn't excuse him and his actions especially towards mikey who lost more than anyone here. his older brother literally died, man. he might be going through stuff but he's still wrong and borderline evil with the things that followed. like just because you're traumatized doesn't give u a free pass to be a total psychopath. the thing is he's really just a messed up person and u see that even before he killed Mikey's brother.
It's not abt excusing his actions. We're just saying how he's messed up in the head that's why he blamed Mikey coz a lot of ppl are like confused as to why Kazu blamed Mikey and calling it dumb and illogical when it's really just his worst coping mechanism. You are right. He's a messed up person due to his personal issues but that doesn't mean his intention for stealing is bad. The action is.
@@bellerei6947 yeah some people are doing that but there are also others "defending" those thoughts and excusing him from everyone mad at him because he was "traumatized" which he was and im just saying it doesn't matter what the case is. blaming mikey was messed up in itself but even trying to kill him 3 yrs later is fucked up.
@@eve648 basically, this boy is already fcked up because of his family issues and became even more so after this incident, some reactors are calling him dumb because of that conclusion he made but thats the point (not because he is dumb, but because of his conclusion itself). it is illogical and that alone shows how fcked up he is in the head
@@umeboshi2247 i agree it's not dumb. i recognize kazutora's traumas and ive read his side story. im just talking about ppl who are defending him from the things he did and is gonna do because they use his trauma as a pass which isn't the case. kazutora def needs help because hes turning pretty crazy.
kazutora's reasoning is really backwards and nonsensical for a reasonable person but in a situation like that, when you're in shock and traumatized by something you've done (+ has a bad past that still affects you), it's no wonder his thinking started to twist like that. and as a 12-13 year old with clearly no proper guidance, the time in juvie, surrounded by other kids who did bad things, did not help him whatsoever.
What led Kazutora to blame Mikey for his actions was because it was his love and admiration for Mikey that drove him to do the crime of stealing, although there were clearly other ways to make Mikey smile and get him a bike, they clearly made the wrong decision but that just to shows the immaturity part of their youth. Seeing Kazutora twist that love and admiration for Mikey into a poor excuse to dismiss his murder of Shinichiro was painful. The severity of the situation ( being that the man he killed is the older brother of his idol/bff) caused him to go into denial and shock, made him lose all that rationalization and made Mikey his target of blame.
Whoever lady is in middle she great at observing the anime 😂😊 Love ya guys reaction priceless As Uptodate Manga reader BRUH you haven’t seen nothing yet their Are ALOT TWISTS and TURNS 🥲
SPOILER ON WHY BAJI LEFT MIKEY : He knows kisaki is behind everything so he joins them to get closer to him and kill him… but some more crazy things happen
Kazutora isn’t “normal” if u know what I mean in the manga it was established that he’s not totally ok uno what I’m Tryna say he’s basically crazy which is why he’s not making sense
Kazutora wants Mikey to be happy(good intention)then stealing the bike Mikey wanted the most(bad intention)and then killed Mikey's brother without him knowing it's Mikey's Brother, Let's recap the reason he killed Mikey's brother it's because he wants to make Mikey Happy
Bruh not justifying it but it's so mad how I came to understand Kazutora because of a dream. In my dream, I killed my grandma (idk why I dont have a grudge against her) and i was so afraid of facing my father so i stabbed him too. Kazutora wanted to kill Mikey so he wont have to face Mikey's anger and disappointment. He's fckin guilty man.
-Kazutora on an obvious state of negation trying to put away his fault in the only way a kid could +Every reactor on YT making fun of him: "hOw'S tHiS MikEy'S fAuLt¿"
@@Argentiii I know it's not Mikey's fault, but you have to remember Kazutora is only a 12 yr old child, and the putting the blame on Mikey is the only way Kazutora could cope mentally or he would have completely had a mental breakdown. You are looking at this as if Kazutora was a fully grown adult. Also the girl is correct Kazutora is mentally damaged but there is a reason for that.
@@deborahwhitney9427 I never said he was an adult I was confused I’m honestly not really “ that “ Stupid I didn’t say anything else in my comment like I didn’t even read the manga yet
Broo as a manga reader i can say yall are getting pretty well the story & the characters. Please keep watching it gets better, fucking better. This is nothing!! well... here starts the real problem.. Also, Shinichiro died at 23 (Mikey's brother) Love your reactions!!
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Mikey's elder brother is 22 remember y'all....he seniors MIKEY with 10 yrs
Director Nasty's analisis was sooo good, he understand Baji waay better than other reactors, he really nail it this time. Amazing reaction
The thing that hurts the most is that the bike which they were trying to steal was itself a gift for mikey on his coming birthday.
Ah so it was for Mickey
I wasn't sure about that
It really was
@@misterperidot7735 it was
Baji is a real one. Real homie!
yeah
Indeed
Kazutora been going through some other shit before this happened. The boy is obviously not ok in the head, and even more so after killing shinichiro. Thats a trauma response and he needs therapy so it is understandable to how he got to that conclusion.
I read hell lot of manga but tokyo revengers is a manga with the most plot twist, you won't be able to guess what is coming next, let's just say its gonna be an emotional ride
It kinda is
Yes indeed bro
code geass has a ton of turns too
baki is also unpredictable in a weird way
oh man it really is an emotional ride. holy crap all those fights, unexpected scenes, deaths and all that oh god
His mind is fcked up in the first place
It's just his mental self defense that he is a good boy (giving present) and protect himself by blaming the other
>Kazutora backstory Spoiler< Kazutora has been a victim of domestic violence since he was a boy. He was bullied by his friends for years and then accidentally killed the brother of his best friend. If he hadn't put the blame on someone else, he would have fallen into psychosis. He needed a coping mechanism and putting the blame on Mikey was the only solution. After Kazutora was in jail for years, he received psychological help there, which is why he can now deal with it. But it's still not quite over. You don't have to read the manga a thousand times to understand a character.
Some of yall don‘t see the depth of it, happens if you only read through a manga briefly to read it through. Was everything in Kazutora's backstory, I didn't invent anything.
In the manga there is a scene (in the Sano Bikershop) in which Baji tells Kazutora he is always going to be by he's side, no matter how dark the times get. I think putting that scene in the episode could have helped a lot of people to understand the strong relationship between these two.
During the episode kazutora got high key mad seeing that family having a good time in that restaurant which makes me think one he has a terrible home life and two kazutora thinks attachments cause pain, Thus when he’s trying to do something nice for Mikey he ends up killing his brother; now he’s caught up in all this horrible mental pain because of Mikey‘s attachments so he twisted it and blames Mikey for having that in the first place. Which is why kazutora wants to kill Mikey so he can be free of the guilt of hurting someone who he cares about.
Damn bro…. He seemed like a chill dude to 😬 R.I.P
Soon fr more of him but! No spoilers
@@ShiroyashaVince ty for not spoiling I’ve seen so many spoilers in just this comment section
@@romeobentmonegro4765 No problem bro! 😁 Also yeah there are ppl spoiling shiz left and right as a manga reader for this series im ashamed they spoil thing 😐
Kazutora Gf : i am pregnant
Kazutora: its mikey fault
Sano Shiniciro has charisma that surpasses even anyone, he is not strong in fighting, but he never gives up, just like Takemichi. Sano Shiniciro at that time became the leader of the strongest delinquents in Tokyo. They felt that as long as Sano Shiniciro led them, they would never lose. The strongest delinquent in Tokyo greatly idolized someone even weaker than them, namely Sano Shiniciro
it was nice presentation how guilt is the most destructive feeling possible. It makes us extremelly unstable.
--One minute we may feel remorse over our wrong doing, and feel sorry for person we hurt....
--Only to want to kill that person second later, (because our mind tells us that because of him we feel unstable, or for no apparent reason)
--Only to feel remorse and sorry again.....
It makes extremelly unstable and puts in spiral of being remorseful, or hateful every second......
This is why you case a place abd get information on it and it's owner/owners before burglarizing and robbing it.
Bro y'all are so on point with these discussions!!
Thanks a lot. Glad you listened
"kazutora is just messed up and that's his response to trauma as a way to cope" yeah we get that he has issues but that doesn't excuse him and his actions especially towards mikey who lost more than anyone here. his older brother literally died, man. he might be going through stuff but he's still wrong and borderline evil with the things that followed. like just because you're traumatized doesn't give u a free pass to be a total psychopath. the thing is he's really just a messed up person and u see that even before he killed Mikey's brother.
It's not abt excusing his actions. We're just saying how he's messed up in the head that's why he blamed Mikey coz a lot of ppl are like confused as to why Kazu blamed Mikey and calling it dumb and illogical when it's really just his worst coping mechanism. You are right. He's a messed up person due to his personal issues but that doesn't mean his intention for stealing is bad. The action is.
@@bellerei6947 yeah some people are doing that but there are also others "defending" those thoughts and excusing him from everyone mad at him because he was "traumatized" which he was and im just saying it doesn't matter what the case is. blaming mikey was messed up in itself but even trying to kill him 3 yrs later is fucked up.
@@eve648 basically, this boy is already fcked up because of his family issues and became even more so after this incident, some reactors are calling him dumb because of that conclusion he made but thats the point (not because he is dumb, but because of his conclusion itself). it is illogical and that alone shows how fcked up he is in the head
@@umeboshi2247 i agree it's not dumb. i recognize kazutora's traumas and ive read his side story. im just talking about ppl who are defending him from the things he did and is gonna do because they use his trauma as a pass which isn't the case. kazutora def needs help because hes turning pretty crazy.
kazutora's reasoning is really backwards and nonsensical for a reasonable person but in a situation like that, when you're in shock and traumatized by something you've done (+ has a bad past that still affects you), it's no wonder his thinking started to twist like that. and as a 12-13 year old with clearly no proper guidance, the time in juvie, surrounded by other kids who did bad things, did not help him whatsoever.
Fam, Kazutora needs help. He needs therapy 🥴🥴🥴🥴 one of the craziest shit birthday gift i ever saw….
GREAT REACTION GUYS !!!
See always good to have a woman on set. Her recall was on point. Makes total sense now
What led Kazutora to blame Mikey for his actions was because it was his love and admiration for Mikey that drove him to do the crime of stealing, although there were clearly other ways to make Mikey smile and get him a bike, they clearly made the wrong decision but that just to shows the immaturity part of their youth.
Seeing Kazutora twist that love and admiration for Mikey into a poor excuse to dismiss his murder of Shinichiro was painful. The severity of the situation ( being that the man he killed is the older brother of his idol/bff) caused him to go into denial and shock, made him lose all that rationalization and made Mikey his target of blame.
Kazutora is known as Mentally broken clown.
Happy birthday Mikey, here's your present!
A well-maintained CB250T (or whatever)
And a dead brother. Wish you all the best bruh. 😘
What a tragic summer. This episode hurts a lot.
Damn the discussion was fire
Y’all have a mushroom tip spying on y’all from above 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yoooo. I’m dead. It’s the Mic!
all the "what could've beens" in this manga/anime are painful af :(
bruh don't spoil the reaction on the beginning
Whoever lady is in middle she great at observing the anime 😂😊
Love ya guys reaction priceless
As Uptodate Manga reader BRUH you haven’t seen nothing yet their Are ALOT TWISTS and TURNS 🥲
AdorkableNerd. She remembers well fam
Oh no. This episode. I was speechless when I read this chapter.
shinichiro sano
face = naoto + younger mikey
body = hanma
personality = takemichi
Diam
@@DanaKim8 bukan spoiler ini 😑
SPOILER ON WHY BAJI LEFT MIKEY :
He knows kisaki is behind everything so he joins them to get closer to him and kill him… but some more crazy things happen
Kazutora nation how we feeling today?
not good lmao been defending him under every comment section 🥴
@@nagihiro1382 doing the same but on twitter😔
@@nagihiro1382 lol
@@nagihiro1382 i hope the anime covers the future after valhalla else it's gonna be tough
@@dchen8874 frr we're gonna have to wait a while until his timeskip
You China had the liva action of this made over there & it was #1
Where can I watch the uncensored version?
Animepahe
Kazutora isn’t “normal” if u know what I mean in the manga it was established that he’s not totally ok uno what I’m Tryna say he’s basically crazy which is why he’s not making sense
Kazutora wants Mikey to be happy(good intention)then stealing the bike Mikey wanted the most(bad intention)and then killed Mikey's brother without him knowing it's Mikey's Brother, Let's recap the reason he killed Mikey's brother it's because he wants to make Mikey Happy
It's not like Kazutora wanted to kill Shinchiro.
This ep ☠️
Peak reaction guys
I thought that guy in the shop is hanma
Bruh not justifying it but it's so mad how I came to understand Kazutora because of a dream. In my dream, I killed my grandma (idk why I dont have a grudge against her) and i was so afraid of facing my father so i stabbed him too. Kazutora wanted to kill Mikey so he wont have to face Mikey's anger and disappointment. He's fckin guilty man.
-Kazutora on an obvious state of negation trying to put away his fault in the only way a kid could
+Every reactor on YT making fun of him: "hOw'S tHiS MikEy'S fAuLt¿"
fr they dont understand the poor boy, im not trying to justify his actions but its obvious that he's got some loose screws even before this incident.
I mean how is it his fault?? 🧍♀️
@@Argentiii I know it's not Mikey's fault, but you have to remember Kazutora is only a 12 yr old child, and the putting the blame on Mikey is the only way Kazutora could cope mentally or he would have completely had a mental breakdown. You are looking at this as if Kazutora was a fully grown adult. Also the girl is correct Kazutora is mentally damaged but there is a reason for that.
@@deborahwhitney9427 I never said he was an adult I was confused I’m honestly not really “ that “ Stupid I didn’t say anything else in my comment like I didn’t even read the manga yet
Yes my boy kazutoraaaaaa
Broo as a manga reader i can say yall are getting pretty well the story & the characters. Please keep watching it gets better, fucking better. This is nothing!! well... here starts the real problem..
Also, Shinichiro died at 23
(Mikey's brother)
Love your reactions!!
OMG, this episode was brutal. I think I need to stop recommending this anime to my friends. It's great though but damn!
119 is 911 in tokyo
You will understand Bajis reason in next ep
It’s 16
Yup. 16th episode
That twist was nasty. I was just annihilated to see that the story of Tokyo revengers was fucked up to this level.
damn all because of mikey
300 members joined the chat(toman)
yo what is this, this is good reaction understand the details and some sht auto subs
Reaction on Black clover please ❤️
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God loves you so much.
Shinichiro sano first gen leader of black dragons .
thats a spoiler dude