I was a little worried that Golden wouldn't be considered canon and Marie would be forgotten/ignored. I'm glad they brought her back and solidified her existence in the story.
ifurkend No, I mean in P4G Marie's shadow is most likely Izanazmi. Makes sense given story structure, and it's probably what you were supposed to take away from that whole thing.
Not a bad trailer. Certainly glad to have Marie in this game, think she'll work just fine in it. At the very least has a very suitable title given to her :).
Awesome, I loved Marie in golden and I can't wait to play as the girl who had the best boss music ever. I hope they include that remix of the "I face myself" music
KillerGuy Japan is 50/50 with her compared to other characters. Vocal minority hate Chie even though she's on the top female list over Rise and even Naoto in Japan.
KillerGuy You really want me to give you: The 2006 or 2010 character ranking of Persona 4/Persona 3 That shows Yu as number one, Yosuke as 2, Chie as 3, etc. Character rankings from Pixiv a Japanese site on characters with Marie being in the middle 2Chan? I could but mind you its going to take a while and I'm debating is it worth it for an internet youtube debate. EDIT: people don't like Chie because of the weird translation. She 'suppose' to had kicked Yosuke in the balls but in the Japanese one he ran into a desk and hurt himself. People don't like Rise because she's a flirt. The only female that doesn't get hate from P4 is: Nanako and Naoto because kids/reverse traps are love.
I read a comment that says "Many people like myself don't consider Golden to be canon. And P4A is canon. So now she's (Marie) been forced into this game." What kind of elitist/puritist thinking is that? Just because one character was added to an enhanced remake, it's not canon all of sudden? That makes Persona 3 FES and Metis not canon either. I love the original P4 as much as anyone else, but that is just beyond stupid really.
People who say Golden isn't cannon but Arena is, need to get their heads checked.m heck they even mention the events of Arena in the new ending in the golden.
Smiles1222 I am the person who typed that comment and I was talking about Head Canon. I was stating that I personally would not consider Golden canon because I believe the story is better in the original.
Cryogenicmonkey its the same fucking story though, with a tweak. A little more character development and motivation clarification, bu other than that, it was still all Izanamis will. The story mangaed to feel the same but fresh adn new. Which is what made golden awesome. Like p3 adding the Answer, they didn't have to do that but they did
Well, Theo is in the game but as of right now not playable. It is rumored that the last dlc character might be Margaret since she's on the cover, and the only characters that are on the cover are the playable fighters.
I was literally just thinking "Marie as a fighter in Ultimax, using Kaguya as her Persona, would be the best thing ever." and here comes the best thing ever. I don't care what anybody else says, Marie is awesome. I've already pre-ordered Ultimax and will be getting this add-on as soon as it's released in the US.
she even has her first boss form as a instant kill move! I never understood why that was her persona. even P4G labels it as her other self in the true end.
-_- So uh... can someone please explain to me where the hate for Marie comes from? I mean she's not my favorite character or anything, there were a couple of things about her that kind of bugged me, but so many people seem to actively, vehemently dislike her and... I don't get it.
You got me. There seems to be a lot of whining about "shoehorning her into the story", but that never really seemed to make sense. I mean all the characters are written into the story. It's just that she was added in the Golden version. I didn't see a whole lot of whining about adding a female MC to the portable version of P3. Maybe it's just that they are worried that Marie might be treated more as the canon love interest for the MC and they want their favorite girl to be on top? Or maybe they just hate tsundere characters in general? Honestly the hate against her always seemed rather random. All I can do is speculate on it.
FlareKnight I hope they DO make her a canon LI (or at least do it in the anime), just to spite the idiots that complain about her so much. God forbit Atlus would write a character with a bit of emotion and have her arc be about self discovery. I feel a lot of the people who dislike her are also the people who yammer on to this day about how much they "hate" Yukari. People also seem quick to forget that having her in P4G also brought several hours of awesome end game, including one of the more interesting Persona dungeons I have ever played. In other words, screw em :P I love Marie, as much (if not more) than all the other characters
IHeart16Bit I'm not sure about making Marie the canon love interest, because I don't think it would be fair to other people who ship Yu with other girls (like me). But I do agree with you for the most part. but maybe that will happen in the anime, who knows. Also, Yukari isin't the same as Marie, even though they are both tsundere they are different characters. I know some friends who are into also into persona and there one who likes Yukari more than Marie and the other who likes Marie, but hates Yukari. So really, who knows. Also, you mean the "Annoying" interesting dungeon, right? I also like Marie, I didn't like her at first, but I've opened up to her. So don't cry, and....thank you, baby!" Also she kinda looks hot in my opinion, so that's a plus.
The problem I have with her is not the fact that she was tacked onto golden, but HOW she was tacked onto golden. I'm all for new content, but they really only added a social link and suddenly made her a huge part of the story where she was otherwise absent. I'm not saying that they had to add her to every Investigation Team meeting, but for her only interaction with the cast to be in her own link even though they added a load of new scenes that she could have been a part of feels incredibly lazy. Take a look at P4GA, in that they added her to ALL of the events. This makes it a lot more believable that she was a real part of the group instead of just an expansion pack. Alternatively, they could have done what they did with Elizabeth in P3 FES, where the MC's only interactions with her are sort of in secret, tie it into the mystery of the velvet room or something. Instead, they went with this weird, somewhere in the middle zone where it seems like she's part of the group, but nobody invites her when they go out. Atlus should have decided early on just how involved she was going to be with the story and the OG main cast. In the original game, every character had their shadow confrontation and social link before you could face Adachi and save the world, with Marie it felt like "well they saved the world and- SHIT WE FORGOT ABOUT MARIE! QUICK, put in that dungeon we made so she can face herself after the plot is pretty much wrapped up and she can have her resolution during the completely optional true ending. I don't hate her as a character, and I'm happy to see more people added to the ever growing Ultimax roster, but Marie's inclusion to golden was handled poorly and it definitely hurt her in the long run.
Christopher Wallace Eh. I'd argue that she made the True Final Boss a lot less jarring, but I do agree that they could have done a better job implementing her.
Well, this trailer is certainly more soothing and less "hype" thanthe others. Still really enjoy her theme, and the way they did goes "better" with it. A nice trailer, overall!
Have you not played P4A? Everyone has a funny subtitle (Yu is the "sister complex kingpin of steel") and Maries is "虚ろの森のツンデレポエマー" means something like "tsundere poet of the empty (hollow?) forest.
I get the feeling that people are upset over Marie (and possibly Margaret if she winds up in?) being in the game might just be upset that it's not Makoto Yuki from P3. Though, even IF he were to be playable, it's one of those things I'm not sure they'd announce and that you'd probably have to unlock by beating Story Mode or something anyway.
0:39 did she just say ''Minato'' , you know , the protagonist of Persona 3 , or am i just imagining it ? i think i might be wrong , since his name in the japanese version is Makoto i believe , so it was just some japanese word then ...
I agree with you, Vitliy, I mean, I don't hate Marie, but I think it would be better to add Maya from Persona 2 than Marie, specially because I think it was so unfair Persona 4 the Golden were never released for ps2 or ps3, and I'm not going to buy PSvita only for playing this game, I hate handheld consoles.
Translation of the stuff she says in battle (because I can understand it and I feel like translating it): "This fog isn't something I recognize. Why? Is this what you call an "ordeal"? The town I spent time with everyone in... If you intend to destroy this town, I won't allow it. This story definitely won't end here. That's right, I'll teach you, the only truth!" Pretty sure that's right. Someone else probably already translated it but whatever lol.
As Duke Nukem would say, "Time to kick some *** and chew some bubble gum! And I'm all out of gum!" Hint: Marie is seen chewing and blowing bubble gum in _Persona Q_.
Yeah. That said though, it is supposedly after release DLC. Maybe they've only worked on her after the game was sent to testing? If that's the case, I don't mind her too much as DLC since it's an added bonus.
Yous0147 Bear in mind the game has been finished for a while in arcades and the console port is way to close to its launch date for them to add content.
Wait... whats the name of her Persona? I saw that persona vefore but I couldnt point my finger at it... all I know its a max social link persona thingy
So....this is the character atlus thought everyone was asking for. Yeah hate to break it but I think everyone is waiting for the rest P3 cast. Not that the Marie dlc was bad of course
What rest of the P3 cast? They got everyone who isn't dead or non-existent from that game. Heck they included a dog that by this time clearly shouldn't be alive or in a condition to be fighting.
Margaret is also going to be playable but yeah... there's nobody else in Persona 3 (or 4 either now I guess) that could be in the game because Ultimax is canon and Shinji's dead (sadly) and Fem MC isn't real. They can start bringing in the Persona 1 and 2 characters they hinted at in Arena 1 though. edit: Wait. I guess they could force in Fuuka since they forced in Rise to be playable even though neither of them fight.
That's a good point on Fuuka. She's about the only P3 character I think they could legitimately put in there. Although I could understand Rise getting a combat mode with the whole getting captured and being a burden in the first Arena game. Seeing Mitsuru may have also allowed her to consider that a possibility. Fuuka I feel probably is more settled into her support position and is happy to assist from a distance. Drive is certainly a key in persona changing. And yeah it's all because the creators want Rise fighting, but I can rationalize it.
If Koro would have been separate from Ken, I probably would have mained Koro, but since he's an assist character... I dunno. I mean they could get weird and decide the Fox got a Persona... haha.
EmperorArcana Let me see... Margaret hasn't been confirmed to be playable just yet (she's only on the artwork given to P4AU tour visitors), they've been hinting at dimension-warping shenanigans that could possibly bring in FeMC, Persona 1 characters probably never got their Personas due to the game taking place on the Other Side, Innocent Sin's Persona users definitely don't have their Personas because IS took place on the Other Side, EP's Persona users probably don't want to deal with the potential of Nyarly showing up again based off of what happened last time around, and Fuuka is unable to fight, as she frequently becomes sick. Rise, though her Persona is normally unsuited to actual combat, is capable of fighting without getting sick,, so it makes sense that she joins the fight in Ultimax.
FES was more on the sequel side, since it has a story after the main story, but came with the main story with added features. And Golden is an enhanced version. I'm fine with them adding character to it, but what bothers me is that people (me included) that played the PS2 version and not Golden are going to have no idea who she is. Granted, I looked at a wikia about her before hand, but not everyone wants to do that, to prevent spoiling P4. I'm just saying I'd rather it kept to where people that played the original and people that played Golden are able to follow the story. If she's just DLC in not in the story at all, it'd be fine, so there isn't as much confusion.
TheBlackBloodNinja Yeah, she is DLC. (that still sucks, because my wallet is going to start crying). But really the story from P4 to P4G is mostly the same. P4G just gives more info on the final boss and other minor things (like beach events, and sky trips, etc) so I think Marie is not that confusing even if you only played the PS2 version. And just a small tip... You should play P4G, it is a fantastic game. I was a bit unsure if getting a Vita just for that game was worth it and it totally was, even after playing P4 on my PS2.
I would get it, but it's the only thing in the Vita's library (well exclusive-ish anyway) that really sticks out to me, and simply don't want to buy for just one game.
TheBlackBloodNinja I know, it is a great game and to me it was worth buying the system for it... But there isn't any other game that I want to buy for it. But hey, there are some good let's plays of it out there.
Am I like, the only person who is happy Marie is in? I actually wanted to see a DLC in the first game for her, now she's gonna be in this one with more characters stages & music, which makes it even better
No, but it may seem that way sometimes. I wouldn't have minded a DLC or reference to her in the first Arena game, but this definitely makes up for that. Seems like a move that just made sense since even Golden made some note that her persona if she used one would have been Kaguya.
You think people wanted Ken? The only reason ken is in it is why he's paired with Koromaru, Koromaru would be broken tier since his hit box would be nearly non-existent due to his size. I don't want Chie, Yukiko, or Rise but I don't get I want either. Deal with it.
I think people who don't consider P4G to be canon just haven't played it. Buy a vita already. Also, she's in Persona Q. So yep, P4G is canon, cry some more.
People that think the game isn't cannon but consider arena cannon need their heads checked. Heck they even mention the events of arena in the new ending.
You know Atlus could do like Blazblue and randomly put in people two years after the arcade is released. Remember that? So unless they say "X character is NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER" going to be in the game they could put anyone, even the freaking fox, if they wanted to. In before someone rages about how Marg is in the game but not Femc.
虚ろの森のつんでれ詩人が完璧にマリーをさしてんの好きすぎる
本編プレイ前とプレイ後でここまで印象変わるとは思わんかったな
勿論いい意味で
紹介フレーズが全体的にマリーの黒歴史で草
この人の囁くような声が好きなんだよなぁ
相変わらずマリーかわいい!!
今見てもマリーは可愛い(*´꒳`*)
マリーちゃんかわいwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
もしかしたら、マリーのペルソナカグヤか!?
まさかの参戦wwwありがとうございます!
DON'T CRY soshite THANK YOU, BABY
来てくれて本当にありがとう!
Can't believe this was 7 years ago.
マリーかわいいww
I was a little worried that Golden wouldn't be considered canon and Marie would be forgotten/ignored.
I'm glad they brought her back and solidified her existence in the story.
Golden is canon and Yosuke's P4 Arena reference at the Golden ending proves that.
BortaMaga NFS Really? What was it?
TheHappy_P0tat0 watch the new ending in P4G and you'll hear Yosuke talk about it.
BortaMaga NFS Ohh, I thought you meant in Arena.
Yeah I got it.
相変わらず痛いポエムだぜwww
I'm just here for the salt and here I thought nothing would top the entertainment of the Ken reveal reactions.
***** Oh my god, I'm dying, ahahahaha
People seemed to calm down a bit after we've seen a bunch of Ken gameplay, though. Hopefully, it'll be the same for Marie.
...
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Imagine the personality of a Shadow Marie.
DEAR GAWD WE ARE ALL SCREWED.
Izanami, you mean? Cause yeah.
Velvet Room denizens do not have a shadow-type in game, Marie is no exception.
ifurkend No, I mean in P4G Marie's shadow is most likely Izanazmi. Makes sense given story structure, and it's probably what you were supposed to take away from that whole thing.
ifurkend
I know.
But if there _WAS_ a Shadow Marie, the guys better start wearing groin armor.
Well, didn't see that coming.
her persona looks so pretty *_*
***** Your icon confirmed bicycle of Naruto!
kaguya's a fun persona to have
spell master man
Kazeryuun spell master mahamaon, or magarudyne XD
Great battle theme! I can't wait to play as her!
Me too.
Not a bad trailer.
Certainly glad to have Marie in this game, think she'll work just fine in it. At the very least has a very suitable title given to her :).
I see all these whiny babys crying in the comments, and meanwhile, I'm just like "Yeah! My favourite girls in the game now!".
You sir are a very awesome person.
I think they will end up announce Nanako as a playable character
nah, they said 37 playable characters. The only one left is Margaret. Besides Nanako is only 7 years old.
***** really? that includes the shadows?
Yeah, playing as Nyarly seems rad as fuck
BlackClass180 yeah all the I.T. and S.O. get shadow versions, but God-like entities, Adachi, and Sho don't get shadows.
ASW planned Dojima and Nanako as a one character since P4A but Atlus rejects it.
I can't believe I didn't see this coming.
Awesome, I loved Marie in golden and I can't wait to play as the girl who had the best boss music ever.
I hope they include that remix of the "I face myself" music
what? i didn't know people hated Marie. that's unfortunate...
Vocal minority hate her
KillerGuy Japan is 50/50 with her compared to other characters. Vocal minority hate Chie even though she's on the top female list over Rise and even Naoto in Japan.
Megamibunny
source?
KillerGuy You really want me to give you:
The 2006 or 2010 character ranking of Persona 4/Persona 3 That shows Yu as number one, Yosuke as 2, Chie as 3, etc.
Character rankings from Pixiv a Japanese site on characters with Marie being in the middle
2Chan?
I could but mind you its going to take a while and I'm debating is it worth it for an internet youtube debate.
EDIT: people don't like Chie because of the weird translation. She 'suppose' to had kicked Yosuke in the balls but in the Japanese one he ran into a desk and hurt himself. People don't like Rise because she's a flirt. The only female that doesn't get hate from P4 is: Nanako and Naoto because kids/reverse traps are love.
***** So mad
Been waiting for this trailer for a while.
I read a comment that says "Many people like myself don't consider Golden to be canon. And P4A is canon. So now she's (Marie) been forced into this game."
What kind of elitist/puritist thinking is that? Just because one character was added to an enhanced remake, it's not canon all of sudden? That makes Persona 3 FES and Metis not canon either. I love the original P4 as much as anyone else, but that is just beyond stupid really.
Well, Metis isn't really real either, but I don't really want to get into that :/
People who say Golden isn't cannon but Arena is, need to get their heads checked.m heck they even mention the events of Arena in the new ending in the golden.
AgentJarelo the point is she was her own being for a short while :3
Smiles1222 I am the person who typed that comment and I was talking about Head Canon. I was stating that I personally would not consider Golden canon because I believe the story is better in the original.
Cryogenicmonkey its the same fucking story though, with a tweak. A little more character development and motivation clarification, bu other than that, it was still all Izanamis will. The story mangaed to feel the same but fresh adn new. Which is what made golden awesome. Like p3 adding the Answer, they didn't have to do that but they did
I love the idea of her electrocuting Sho, like, "Thehellyouperv! ZAPPPP"
I dunno. Made me chuckle.
I knew there would be more DLC characters other than Adachi. YAY!
Kana Hanazawa is awesome!
おぉ、イタいイタい。
しかし実質P4のラスボスの片割れも登場か・・・
これもしかしてガソリンのアイツも出てきちゃうんじゃね?
らっしゃーせー
結局出されなかったらしゃーせー
来たらラスボスとバトりそう
ネタバレ注意
ラスボスはヒノカグツチと言う神で翔は駒の一つです、又日本神話ではイザナミはヒノカグツチを産んだ際に焼け死んだので因縁はあるはずだから、共闘するでしょうね(そもそも4で暗躍したのは、人間を見極めると言う目的なので、ヒノカグツチの破壊思想は受け入れ難いでしょう)
超可愛い憲磨呂っぽい戦い方
Nice! They really did add her in :D I'm so glad.
I think now the only characters missing are P3 MC/FemMC, and Theodore.
Well, Theo is in the game but as of right now not playable. It is rumored that the last dlc character might be Margaret since she's on the cover, and the only characters that are on the cover are the playable fighters.
The only one they'll announce left is margaret , pretty sure. Cannot wait for that! !!
And Shinji. You know he was a char at one point.
Setherzam isn't he dead, I don't see how there gonna bring Shinji in a canon storyline when he died
so is the MC and FemMC and he listed them anyways
That was out of left field but not unwanted. Good job!
This is the 1st time I’ve heard her JP voice. It’s beautiful...
Im still rolling on a Vincent dlc, with Boss being his persona, especially with his P3P cameo
I was literally just thinking "Marie as a fighter in Ultimax, using Kaguya as her Persona, would be the best thing ever." and here comes the best thing ever. I don't care what anybody else says, Marie is awesome. I've already pre-ordered Ultimax and will be getting this add-on as soon as it's released in the US.
"Hollow Forest's Tsundere Poet" HAHAHAHAH and that Don't cry, also, Thank you baby was epic xD
she even has her first boss form as a instant kill move! I never understood why that was her persona. even P4G labels it as her other self in the true end.
It's just the Persona you get for maxing her SL. (I don't know how she's able to summon it. Velvet Room resident advantages I guess.)
her playstyle is gonna be... interesting to say the least XD
Marie kinda reminds me of Karol from Vesperia when she attacks with her bag.
-_- So uh... can someone please explain to me where the hate for Marie comes from? I mean she's not my favorite character or anything, there were a couple of things about her that kind of bugged me, but so many people seem to actively, vehemently dislike her and... I don't get it.
You got me.
There seems to be a lot of whining about "shoehorning her into the story", but that never really seemed to make sense. I mean all the characters are written into the story. It's just that she was added in the Golden version. I didn't see a whole lot of whining about adding a female MC to the portable version of P3.
Maybe it's just that they are worried that Marie might be treated more as the canon love interest for the MC and they want their favorite girl to be on top?
Or maybe they just hate tsundere characters in general?
Honestly the hate against her always seemed rather random. All I can do is speculate on it.
FlareKnight
I hope they DO make her a canon LI (or at least do it in the anime), just to spite the idiots that complain about her so much. God forbit Atlus would write a character with a bit of emotion and have her arc be about self discovery. I feel a lot of the people who dislike her are also the people who yammer on to this day about how much they "hate" Yukari.
People also seem quick to forget that having her in P4G also brought several hours of awesome end game, including one of the more interesting Persona dungeons I have ever played.
In other words, screw em :P I love Marie, as much (if not more) than all the other characters
IHeart16Bit I'm not sure about making Marie the canon love interest, because I don't think it would be fair to other people who ship Yu with other girls (like me). But I do agree with you for the most part. but maybe that will happen in the anime, who knows.
Also, Yukari isin't the same as Marie, even though they are both tsundere they are different characters. I know some friends who are into also into persona and there one who likes Yukari more than Marie and the other who likes Marie, but hates Yukari. So really, who knows.
Also, you mean the "Annoying" interesting dungeon, right?
I also like Marie, I didn't like her at first, but I've opened up to her. So don't cry, and....thank you, baby!"
Also she kinda looks hot in my opinion, so that's a plus.
The problem I have with her is not the fact that she was tacked onto golden, but HOW she was tacked onto golden. I'm all for new content, but they really only added a social link and suddenly made her a huge part of the story where she was otherwise absent. I'm not saying that they had to add her to every Investigation Team meeting, but for her only interaction with the cast to be in her own link even though they added a load of new scenes that she could have been a part of feels incredibly lazy.
Take a look at P4GA, in that they added her to ALL of the events. This makes it a lot more believable that she was a real part of the group instead of just an expansion pack.
Alternatively, they could have done what they did with Elizabeth in P3 FES, where the MC's only interactions with her are sort of in secret, tie it into the mystery of the velvet room or something. Instead, they went with this weird, somewhere in the middle zone where it seems like she's part of the group, but nobody invites her when they go out.
Atlus should have decided early on just how involved she was going to be with the story and the OG main cast. In the original game, every character had their shadow confrontation and social link before you could face Adachi and save the world, with Marie it felt like "well they saved the world and- SHIT WE FORGOT ABOUT MARIE! QUICK, put in that dungeon we made so she can face herself after the plot is pretty much wrapped up and she can have her resolution during the completely optional true ending.
I don't hate her as a character, and I'm happy to see more people added to the ever growing Ultimax roster, but Marie's inclusion to golden was handled poorly and it definitely hurt her in the long run.
Christopher Wallace Eh. I'd argue that she made the True Final Boss a lot less jarring, but I do agree that they could have done a better job implementing her.
Well, this trailer is certainly more soothing and less "hype" thanthe others. Still really enjoy her theme, and the way they did goes "better" with it. A nice trailer, overall!
They just outright called her a tsundere! O.o
Have you not played P4A? Everyone has a funny subtitle (Yu is the "sister complex kingpin of steel") and Maries is "虚ろの森のツンデレポエマー" means something like "tsundere poet of the empty (hollow?) forest.
sabin10
Oh no, I did play P4A.
But still, I'm surprised that it was so...blunt lol
KAGUYA!
My favorite Persona.
I get the feeling that people are upset over Marie (and possibly Margaret if she winds up in?) being in the game might just be upset that it's not Makoto Yuki from P3. Though, even IF he were to be playable, it's one of those things I'm not sure they'd announce and that you'd probably have to unlock by beating Story Mode or something anyway.
0:39 did she just say ''Minato'' , you know , the protagonist of Persona 3 , or am i just imagining it ? i think i might be wrong , since his name in the japanese version is Makoto i believe , so it was just some japanese word then ...
Kaguya did resembled her so it makes sense that it would be her persona.
Yes Marie i have feeling she will be my favorite chracter to play :D
i really... UNEXPECTED THIS.
ATLUS IS DA MAN!
HYPE HYPE HYPE
花澤さんは神
Best Character reveal.
Now lets get P3 protagonist.
nope sorry its maggy
i gotta say Marie got a good battle theme (Y)
Marie's here!! The *Tsun* is so high!!
Thank you based Atlus.
The comments are still less salty than the ones on Ken's trailer.
her theme is beautiful! I'm definitely buying her and am going to beat all her haters online with her!
"Don't cry and Thank you, baby" - a little message for the haters.
All you people complaining about DLC, she's now coming free with Adachi the first week the game is out!
Glad shes in. loved her in golden.
The different reaction of UA-cam and my county version of UA-cam about Marie is really different...
*contry, damned auto correct
Out of curiosity, where do you live?
Its the legend Kana Hanazawa peeps gonna get beat.
0:52
Ace Attorney confirmed.
She needs to break all the Psyco-locks!
Here you have it, no ones favorite character!
*ehem* Excuse me!
Says you...I love marie over rise.
And with three votes I think you've been efficiently proven wrong.
...
Three votes, as in she's my favorite as well. Just to be perfectly clear.
if no one loved her, why would she be in the game? eh?! EH?!
I agree with you, Vitliy, I mean, I don't hate Marie, but I think it would be better to add Maya from Persona 2 than Marie, specially because I think it was so unfair Persona 4 the Golden were never released for ps2 or ps3, and I'm not going to buy PSvita only for playing this game, I hate handheld consoles.
also she was obviously added to premote the P4G Anime and I ain't hating it.
> Atlus' lightning as DLC fighter
> Still no best velvet room girl in the game.
Jesus christ Atlus.
Translation of the stuff she says in battle (because I can understand it and I feel like translating it): "This fog isn't something I recognize. Why? Is this what you call an "ordeal"? The town I spent time with everyone in... If you intend to destroy this town, I won't allow it. This story definitely won't end here. That's right, I'll teach you, the only truth!"
Pretty sure that's right. Someone else probably already translated it but whatever lol.
As Duke Nukem would say, "Time to kick some *** and chew some bubble gum! And I'm all out of gum!"
Hint: Marie is seen chewing and blowing bubble gum in _Persona Q_.
voice actress of this character at it's best!!!
HanaKana is love. HanaKana is life.
they should of just added her in the game and not as DLC.
Agree completely.
Yeah. That said though, it is supposedly after release DLC. Maybe they've only worked on her after the game was sent to testing? If that's the case, I don't mind her too much as DLC since it's an added bonus.
probably because she isn't one of the major parts of the story, just like Adachi
Yous0147 Bear in mind the game has been finished for a while in arcades and the console port is way to close to its launch date for them to add content.
Wait... whats the name of her Persona? I saw that persona vefore but I couldnt point my finger at it... all I know its a max social link persona thingy
So....this is the character atlus thought everyone was asking for. Yeah hate to break it but I think everyone is waiting for the rest P3 cast. Not that the Marie dlc was bad of course
What rest of the P3 cast? They got everyone who isn't dead or non-existent from that game. Heck they included a dog that by this time clearly shouldn't be alive or in a condition to be fighting.
Margaret is also going to be playable but yeah... there's nobody else in Persona 3 (or 4 either now I guess) that could be in the game because Ultimax is canon and Shinji's dead (sadly) and Fem MC isn't real. They can start bringing in the Persona 1 and 2 characters they hinted at in Arena 1 though. edit: Wait. I guess they could force in Fuuka since they forced in Rise to be playable even though neither of them fight.
That's a good point on Fuuka. She's about the only P3 character I think they could legitimately put in there.
Although I could understand Rise getting a combat mode with the whole getting captured and being a burden in the first Arena game. Seeing Mitsuru may have also allowed her to consider that a possibility.
Fuuka I feel probably is more settled into her support position and is happy to assist from a distance. Drive is certainly a key in persona changing.
And yeah it's all because the creators want Rise fighting, but I can rationalize it.
If Koro would have been separate from Ken, I probably would have mained Koro, but since he's an assist character... I dunno. I mean they could get weird and decide the Fox got a Persona... haha.
EmperorArcana Let me see... Margaret hasn't been confirmed to be playable just yet (she's only on the artwork given to P4AU tour visitors), they've been hinting at dimension-warping shenanigans that could possibly bring in FeMC, Persona 1 characters probably never got their Personas due to the game taking place on the Other Side, Innocent Sin's Persona users definitely don't have their Personas because IS took place on the Other Side, EP's Persona users probably don't want to deal with the potential of Nyarly showing up again based off of what happened last time around, and Fuuka is unable to fight, as she frequently becomes sick. Rise, though her Persona is normally unsuited to actual combat, is capable of fighting without getting sick,, so it makes sense that she joins the fight in Ultimax.
Don't cry, she's optional DLC
I SWEAR TO GOD I HEARD MARIE SAY "Minato"
DLC.....Don't cry
Joy, they made Golden canon now. Thanks for telling me I own the wrong version.
It is no the "wrong" version.
Golden is just enhanced.
And if FES was canon then by logic golden was canon too.
FES was more on the sequel side, since it has a story after the main story, but came with the main story with added features. And Golden is an enhanced version. I'm fine with them adding character to it, but what bothers me is that people (me included) that played the PS2 version and not Golden are going to have no idea who she is. Granted, I looked at a wikia about her before hand, but not everyone wants to do that, to prevent spoiling P4. I'm just saying I'd rather it kept to where people that played the original and people that played Golden are able to follow the story. If she's just DLC in not in the story at all, it'd be fine, so there isn't as much confusion.
TheBlackBloodNinja Yeah, she is DLC. (that still sucks, because my wallet is going to start crying).
But really the story from P4 to P4G is mostly the same.
P4G just gives more info on the final boss and other minor things (like beach events, and sky trips, etc) so I think Marie is not that confusing even if you only played the PS2 version.
And just a small tip...
You should play P4G, it is a fantastic game.
I was a bit unsure if getting a Vita just for that game was worth it and it totally was, even after playing P4 on my PS2.
I would get it, but it's the only thing in the Vita's library (well exclusive-ish anyway) that really sticks out to me, and simply don't want to buy for just one game.
TheBlackBloodNinja I know, it is a great game and to me it was worth buying the system for it...
But there isn't any other game that I want to buy for it.
But hey, there are some good let's plays of it out there.
Am I like, the only person who is happy Marie is in? I actually wanted to see a DLC in the first game for her, now she's gonna be in this one with more characters stages & music, which makes it even better
No, but it may seem that way sometimes.
I wouldn't have minded a DLC or reference to her in the first Arena game, but this definitely makes up for that. Seems like a move that just made sense since even Golden made some note that her persona if she used one would have been Kaguya.
I'm happy she's in it, although her Insta-kill is really boring sadly. :(
THANK YOU, BABY
YES MARIE!
It looks like she can use the forecast to enhance her attacked or change their properties.
apparently people hate her 'cause she's "new" so if they introduced her in the first game then they'd love her? their logic is so very flawed
Amazing
>is Post-Launch DLC
>already has her own trailer.
MORE LIKE CUT-CONTENT FOR EASY MONEY
more like they refuse to show trailers for Mitsuru, Aki and Aigis..
Margaret is rumored though...
it would more like be anyone from yu's Personas in the empress arcana since margaret is yu's empress s.link
Well duh, this company isn't exactly new to that practice
more like the game was made a year ago for arcades and this is a port to consoles.
Marie: I'm here to kick ass and rustle jimmies.
lol at all the baka gaijins raging in the comments
Next P4 fighting game will be these characters:
- Makoto
- Hamuko
- Shinjiro
- Metis
- Theodore
- some new characters
Thank you, baby....
Think of it this way; She'll make a great training dummy, at least.
Oh boy, the character LITERALLY NO ONE WANTED
People wanted her in Japan, otherwise she wouldn't be playable.
You think people wanted Ken? The only reason ken is in it is why he's paired with Koromaru, Koromaru would be broken tier since his hit box would be nearly non-existent due to his size. I don't want Chie, Yukiko, or Rise but I don't get I want either. Deal with it.
I think I actually heard the announcer say tsundere
Atlus daisuki! ♥
I think people who don't consider P4G to be canon just haven't played it.
Buy a vita already. Also, she's in Persona Q. So yep, P4G is canon, cry some more.
People that think the game isn't cannon but consider arena cannon need their heads checked. Heck they even mention the events of arena in the new ending.
was that a magatama..?
So many hate comments but so few dislikes...?
its just the vocal minority that is always loud, don't worry about them, they are nobodies.
You know Atlus could do like Blazblue and randomly put in people two years after the arcade is released. Remember that?
So unless they say "X character is NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER" going to be in the game they could put anyone, even the freaking fox, if they wanted to.
In before someone rages about how Marg is in the game but not Femc.
Ok so people hate her alot, but can't we agree that her boss theme in Persona 4 Golden is FUCKING AMAZING?
i hope she play like platinum
Where is the special move about "Igor in a box" ?...
Who 'nose'?
Peter Madden Igor from the Velvet Room.
DV THE FOX it was a joke, and i know what he means... :D
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Great Video.