Proximus was literally trying to speedrun the Roman Empire. Conquering clans of apes and giving them two options, assimilate to my empire or be wiped out.
proximus wasn't the villain. mai was. proximus was right about her and the humans, and noa sowed the seeds for a future war. even noa recognized this at the end
Proximus was right for all the wrong reasons, he was power hungry, it’s why when he referred to the rest of the apes he separated himself and mentioned himself after as a separate being all together. He didn’t truly care for other apes only to the extent that they help him reach his goal.
His interest in the Roman empire is exactly why he was right about the humans. Expansion and conquests. If we get our intelligence back, there won't be any coexisting, it's expansion and conquests.
usually leaders like that in history have something that ppl can agree on even if you dislike them its a form of manipulation frfr he was doing them speeches like hitler in germany tryna gain supporters
He was right in everything. So right that even our main character ends up admitting "Proximus was right..." Proximus > Caesar > Koba (cry about it Caesar/Koba fanboys)
Proxiumus Caesar, what a name for a villain! I think this is a character with a lot of potential as him twisting the words of Caesar but only using it for conquest and implied brainwashing the fellow apes into following him is not unlike real life tyrants and cult leaders, and the character design with the crown is just stunning and creative, and was quite interested in seeing him in the film, he did not disappoint, this is a villain who is smart, recognises others for how smart they are (like Noa) and someone that people who could follow, before realising who he really is but too late. Just wish he had more screentime (which is a similar problem I had with Feyd Rautha) and looks like he survived the fall. he's too good of a villain not returning in the sequel.
Proximus was not villainous. He may have been entitled or disrespectful but he was not a villain. Koba was a villain. A deceitful traitor, manipulator, anger driven murderer and liar. Proximus was just a sh*tty king. He had good, partially self-centered, intentions but lacked leadership skills and probably didn’t value apes the way Cesar did. That doesn’t make him a villain though. I didn’t see him as an antagonist. He just didn’t feel like one.
Uhhhh he literally said he would wipe out Noah’s entire clan just as he had other apes before them. Dude was a monster. He literally enslaved other apes too lmao
@@hunterjackman17 Proximus was modeling himself after human leaders. He was more like Julius Caesar than Caesar was himself. Proximus moves the way Caesar did in Gaul. He looks to establish a kingdom, keeps people in tight order, uses slave labor, and eliminates threats but he rewards those who follow him, gathers knowledge and allies for the future, shows mercy to useful “enemies” to make them an ally, etc. Proximus really was like a lot of great human leaders, Noa just happens to be the main character. Had Proximus had his way, the apes would’ve remembered him as the great king who established the first kingdom of the apes, making them strong and smart enough to stand up against the humans when they inevitably united and struck back. That strength coming from learning to build human things like guns , maybe even the tanks and other equipment from there.
@@TriggeringOpinionsandFacts Good points for sure. But I still think he was malice in his overall intentions. He stated it was HIS kingdom, stating when it came down to it, all of it really was for him and his pedestal. Narcissistic and cruel. I do see and agree with what you’re saying though.
I was very curious about Proximus' origin - was he a lone ape that found Trevathan, who in desperation for protection and a better quality of life gave Proximus knowledge about ancient Rome, inspiring him to build his kingdom? Or was he already leading his tribe and took in this human who he felt could provide security for his tribe? Maybe it was Trevathan who told him about Caesar as well?
The apes would all know about Caesar since his words are passed down despite the troops all breaking off from each others in the years after Caesars original troop found the valley after escaping San Fransisco
@@jayfilms99 like 4-5 more scenes would be fire, and also 2-3 more scenes with noahs dad would have been fire, also noah should have mentioned his dad when drowning that big gorilla who killed his dad, also proximus and the orangutang are still alive, im telling you
That is one thing I felt about the movie is we don't get enough about him or his character. His relationship with William H. Macy's character and learn more. The film seemed to thrust us into the center of this world for us to put the pieces together ourselves in character relations and history. I still thoroughly enjoyed it, though since I came in with 0 expectations. Proximus was definitely a strong point for the film.
No because he landed in the water from like 1000 feet in the air. This is the equivalent to landing on a hard concrete floor from falling from that height.
I thought it was interesting that Proximus had dark eyes like old apes unlike the white human like eyes the other apes have now. Like he’s evolving backwards
I like the two sides of the coin when it came to the words and teaching of Caesar who essentially became an ape Messiah, one side believes in harmony and balance can be achieved through apes working together one believes the world can be conquered through apes working together
I was actually really sad when he died, I wanted proximus to atleast learn about all the human intelligence an seeing apes with guns (like koba) and use those tanks we saw that would be really cool. Imagine An ape controlling a tank (oh wait that alr happend😅) or apes using a gun. (oh wait that also happend😅) Or apes actually evolving/learning an become more smarter an use human technology.
There is a theory that he survived the fall, Proximius Ceaser could still be alive. What I would like to know is what happened during his early days as a baby bonobo on what he saw during his youth.
Unfortunately not. If he had more time and was properly explored then he'd absolutely be the best. He's basically Caesar if he was a bad ape in power. Unfortunately, Proximus is a huge waste of potential in the kingdom movie.
My thoughts exactly. He needed nore screentime, more nuance. He was a tad one dimensional in some regards, which is a shame. I liked Kingdom, but it was like watching a Disney movie made for adults.
He's Caesar + Koba + Humans into one. He's already everyone's favorite villain despite having so little screentime lol. And as our main character said at the end, "Proximus was right..." Proximus > Caesar > Koba (cry about it Caesar/Koba fanboys)
@@MaxxadTV Sorry bud, but you're wrong. He's bigger, smarter, charismatic af, has an amazing voice, wants to unite apes to become the dominant species etc. while Koba is a bum who let his hatred for humans get in the way. "Proximus was right..." keep hearing Noa say that :)
@@yes-qw6omI liked Proximus more than Koba because Koba just wanted to kill humans for his revenge, it's good, but the evil charisma of Proximus and that he has desecrated Caesar's legacy for his convenience makes him very original and refreshing for the saga. Another point in Proximus' favor is the fact that, despite being a monster, he was right about Mae and the humans.
I disagree with this. Koba is more developed character than Proximus. Proximus is a likeable character but Koba definitely has way more depth and impact on the story than Prox.
Proximus is a better villain than Koba. He has more complex motivations than just hate of humans. He’s power hungry but also wants to learn from humans to advance ape civilization.
Proximus was a fun villain, a real show-stealer compared to previous movies because the hero in this one is not a very prominent figure, he was intelligent and knew more about the world than Noa and that makes him interesting in ways I would've liked to see explored, but as much as I wanted him to have more screen time, his motivation was paper-thin, his entire empire fell and there's no reason for him to come back.
Ape villains are cool almost always but I prefer my villains to be a little more equine, but with all human features below the head and well-known for being the lead actor in an in-universe sitcom and an alcoholic, and having a goofy roommate named Todd; do you think you could give us a villain review for someone who fits those parameters?
I really don’t think Proximus was a villain, just a slightly cruel leader. And I don’t think he “twisted” Caesar’s words, I think that genuinely when things get passed down from several ape generations they get changed a lot
That's what makes these types the best "villains". When we know they're actually right in what they're saying. Even our main character ends up admitting "Proximus was right..."
Proximus trying to be a follower of ceaser while being a wicked and greedy being reminds me of religious terrorists twisting the teachings of god. (I know that sounds controversial but i just find the mindset very similar)
I think if you really know the essence of these films then you’d know that both humans and apes could be villainous. Human beings are driven by violence and fear, but so are some of the apes. It’s really about the threat apes and humans pose to one another and who is so called good or bad really depends based on your moral compass. Cesar believed he was good then had to kill an ape to protect his family. He had to survive so was that actually bad? Idk if any side is actually a villain. Everyone is trying to survive and protect their own which is essentially “good” or noble.
It shows that proximus is the cesar of his time, who will lead the apes to a new level of civilization amongst the apes. He also kidnapped tribes to establish an empire with him as its king. Proximus is following in the footsteps of the apes predecessors being man. He is an outlier amongst apes as hes wearing clothing/armor and is learning from the past to establishes evolution. Im sure no other group of apes are using human weaponry nor actively trying to unearth it.
Where was proximus expect in stealing clans? He is right, as soon as humans comeback they will always try to take over the remaining species. They will either cage them or kill them.
You can tell an actor did well when people side with his character. Of Proximus is a villain..he burned down a village to open a vault . What you think he was gonna do with those weapons ? Mae is not much better I mean who knows how many innocent apes she may have killed but that’s the gray area of these films .Mae’s not wrong for wanting mankind to survive but if she got the chance would she cage Noa and co.? If Proximus was more like Ceasar it would be easier to by the whole evolution thing but dude sent gorillas to burn down villages , killed indiscriminately and we all know Ape do not kill Ape 😊
Proximus did absolutely nothing wrong. He was bringing civilization and order to the other apes who just didn't understand how the world is to work. The weak toil for the strong, the strong get a good life.
the thing I didnt like about this whole movie was this,,, compare to how the apes looked like in dawn of the apes and war of the apes, Kingdoms of the apes special effects/CGI looked,, lame.
@@MS-ii1sv yeah koba transcended just as much as Ceaser did, because part 3 had factions who were inspired by koba to teamup with the extermination squad of humans to kill off ceasers people. So even after koba died, he inspired other monkeys to betray ceaser and their own people. King ceaser barely had screen time in the movie, and he was much more humble than koba.
@@e1talks632 For Koba the threat of Humanity certainly outweighed the potential of learning from them, given the shit mai pulled Proximus got too comfy having her around.
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Proximus was literally trying to speedrun the Roman Empire. Conquering clans of apes and giving them two options, assimilate to my empire or be wiped out.
Just like Caesar’s Legion from Fallout
you gotta fw it tho it gave noah a insane character arc
proximus wasn't the villain. mai was. proximus was right about her and the humans, and noa sowed the seeds for a future war. even noa recognized this at the end
Noa also sowed the seed for a possibility of coexisting. It's slim, but it's there
For some apes he was a hero but for the humans the villain
@@3lastname390It was always slim
Proximus was right for all the wrong reasons, he was power hungry, it’s why when he referred to the rest of the apes he separated himself and mentioned himself after as a separate being all together. He didn’t truly care for other apes only to the extent that they help him reach his goal.
Yeah and proximus was a brutal warlord that would terrorize monkeys and humans alike with the weapons in there but may stopped him
“WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!” -Proximus Caesar
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I really liked his character. And he was right to a certain extent
His interest in the Roman empire is exactly why he was right about the humans. Expansion and conquests. If we get our intelligence back, there won't be any coexisting, it's expansion and conquests.
The way he plays everyone against each other is truly sociopathic hes one of the best villains Ive ever seen never cares about anyone but himself
usually leaders like that in history have something that ppl can agree on even if you dislike them its a form of manipulation frfr he was doing them speeches like hitler in germany tryna gain supporters
He was, but he should have never stolen clans
He was right in everything. So right that even our main character ends up admitting "Proximus was right..." Proximus > Caesar > Koba (cry about it Caesar/Koba fanboys)
Proxiumus Caesar, what a name for a villain! I think this is a character with a lot of potential as him twisting the words of Caesar but only using it for conquest and implied brainwashing the fellow apes into following him is not unlike real life tyrants and cult leaders, and the character design with the crown is just stunning and creative, and was quite interested in seeing him in the film, he did not disappoint, this is a villain who is smart, recognises others for how smart they are (like Noa) and someone that people who could follow, before realising who he really is but too late. Just wish he had more screentime (which is a similar problem I had with Feyd Rautha) and looks like he survived the fall. he's too good of a villain not returning in the sequel.
When it comes to Koba, that monke woke up and chose to defy peace because he wanted problems always.
“I DON’T WANT PEACE, I WANT PROBLEMS ALWAYS!”
Ape not monkey
Human work
Proximus was not villainous. He may have been entitled or disrespectful but he was not a villain. Koba was a villain. A deceitful traitor, manipulator, anger driven murderer and liar.
Proximus was just a sh*tty king. He had good, partially self-centered, intentions but lacked leadership skills and probably didn’t value apes the way Cesar did. That doesn’t make him a villain though. I didn’t see him as an antagonist. He just didn’t feel like one.
Uhhhh he literally said he would wipe out Noah’s entire clan just as he had other apes before them. Dude was a monster. He literally enslaved other apes too lmao
Proximus was pure evil but Koba was tragic
@@hunterjackman17 Proximus was modeling himself after human leaders. He was more like Julius Caesar than Caesar was himself. Proximus moves the way Caesar did in Gaul.
He looks to establish a kingdom, keeps people in tight order, uses slave labor, and eliminates threats but he rewards those who follow him, gathers knowledge and allies for the future, shows mercy to useful “enemies” to make them an ally, etc.
Proximus really was like a lot of great human leaders, Noa just happens to be the main character. Had Proximus had his way, the apes would’ve remembered him as the great king who established the first kingdom of the apes, making them strong and smart enough to stand up against the humans when they inevitably united and struck back. That strength coming from learning to build human things like guns , maybe even the tanks and other equipment from there.
@@TriggeringOpinionsandFacts Good points for sure. But I still think he was malice in his overall intentions. He stated it was HIS kingdom, stating when it came down to it, all of it really was for him and his pedestal. Narcissistic and cruel. I do see and agree with what you’re saying though.
Proximus was literally trying to be an emperor. Conquering clans, ij you don't assimilate you'll be wiped out.
I was very curious about Proximus' origin - was he a lone ape that found Trevathan, who in desperation for protection and a better quality of life gave Proximus knowledge about ancient Rome, inspiring him to build his kingdom? Or was he already leading his tribe and took in this human who he felt could provide security for his tribe? Maybe it was Trevathan who told him about Caesar as well?
Spoilers but Trevathan revealed Proximus found him and healed his broken angels in exchange for Trevathan teaching him human history.
The apes would all know about Caesar since his words are passed down despite the troops all breaking off from each others in the years after Caesars original troop found the valley after escaping San Fransisco
I just seen the movie today and i felt like he deserved more screen time
Agree
@@jayfilms99 like 4-5 more scenes would be fire, and also 2-3 more scenes with noahs dad would have been fire, also noah should have mentioned his dad when drowning that big gorilla who killed his dad, also proximus and the orangutang are still alive, im telling you
Proximus is like a little Skar King
That is one thing I felt about the movie is we don't get enough about him or his character. His relationship with William H. Macy's character and learn more. The film seemed to thrust us into the center of this world for us to put the pieces together ourselves in character relations and history. I still thoroughly enjoyed it, though since I came in with 0 expectations. Proximus was definitely a strong point for the film.
Do yall think Proximus survived the fall?
No because he landed in the water from like 1000 feet in the air. This is the equivalent to landing on a hard concrete floor from falling from that height.
the apes can barely swim so I doubt it
@@KaranSingh-x3s2pHe probably hit his head on a rock under water.
Definitely, he's too good of a villain to be killed off in the first film
@@Nicholas_Chen_ exactly!
I thought it was interesting that Proximus had dark eyes like old apes unlike the white human like eyes the other apes have now. Like he’s evolving backwards
EE VOH LUSHUN? yes?
I love the way Proximus speaks. lmao
I like the two sides of the coin when it came to the words and teaching of Caesar who essentially became an ape Messiah, one side believes in harmony and balance can be achieved through apes working together one believes the world can be conquered through apes working together
Proximus is charismatic, smart, visionary and ruthless! In the short time he had he became the best villain of the series
Exactly but the Koba fanboys just can't admit it
@@crescentx5525 FACTS
I was actually really sad when he died, I wanted proximus to atleast learn about all the human intelligence an seeing apes with guns (like koba) and use those tanks we saw that would be really cool. Imagine
An ape controlling a tank (oh wait that alr happend😅)
or apes using a gun.
(oh wait that also happend😅)
Or apes actually evolving/learning an become more smarter an use human technology.
There is a theory that he survived the fall, Proximius Ceaser could still be alive.
What I would like to know is what happened during his early days as a baby bonobo on what he saw during his youth.
Thanks for this breakdown of this new ape villain from this new planet of the apes movie.
Unfortunately not. If he had more time and was properly explored then he'd absolutely be the best. He's basically Caesar if he was a bad ape in power. Unfortunately, Proximus is a huge waste of potential in the kingdom movie.
My thoughts exactly. He needed nore screentime, more nuance. He was a tad one dimensional in some regards, which is a shame. I liked Kingdom, but it was like watching a Disney movie made for adults.
He's Caesar + Koba + Humans into one. He's already everyone's favorite villain despite having so little screentime lol. And as our main character said at the end, "Proximus was right..." Proximus > Caesar > Koba (cry about it Caesar/Koba fanboys)
@@crescentx5525 Nope. Most of the fanbase doesn't like Proximus as the villain overall. You'll have to cry about it lol
@@MaxxadTV Sorry bud, but you're wrong. He's bigger, smarter, charismatic af, has an amazing voice, wants to unite apes to become the dominant species etc. while Koba is a bum who let his hatred for humans get in the way. "Proximus was right..." keep hearing Noa say that :)
@@crescentx5525 the masses disagree. That's not my fault 🤷
Proximus is better than Koba already. Way smarter and cunning
not really, bigger and stronger, but koba is more manipulative, thats how he caused the third movie
@@yes-qw6omI liked Proximus more than Koba because Koba just wanted to kill humans for his revenge, it's good, but the evil charisma of Proximus and that he has desecrated Caesar's legacy for his convenience makes him very original and refreshing for the saga. Another point in Proximus' favor is the fact that, despite being a monster, he was right about Mae and the humans.
@@BelenSansoAnd even if this was the case, Koba has been right.
@@yes-qw6omBecause he wasnt in a position of power.
I disagree with this. Koba is more developed character than Proximus. Proximus is a likeable character but Koba definitely has way more depth and impact on the story than Prox.
Proximus is a better villain than Koba. He has more complex motivations than just hate of humans. He’s power hungry but also wants to learn from humans to advance ape civilization.
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After watching Kingdom, I think now People want a Proximus Ceasar ASMR!
Well yeah, he has no lore or backstory. We want to know more about him than what we got.
Now I can't help but picture Proximus asking; "Now, tell me the secret of the Mushroom Cloud?"
Good gracious
Proximus was a fun villain, a real show-stealer compared to previous movies because the hero in this one is not a very prominent figure, he was intelligent and knew more about the world than Noa and that makes him interesting in ways I would've liked to see explored, but as much as I wanted him to have more screen time, his motivation was paper-thin, his entire empire fell and there's no reason for him to come back.
Ape villains are cool almost always but I prefer my villains to be a little more equine, but with all human features below the head and well-known for being the lead actor in an in-universe sitcom and an alcoholic, and having a goofy roommate named Todd; do you think you could give us a villain review for someone who fits those parameters?
He felt more like New Vegas's Caesar to me ^^ Enforcing his will unto other tribes for a so called "unity"
I really don’t think Proximus was a villain, just a slightly cruel leader. And I don’t think he “twisted” Caesar’s words, I think that genuinely when things get passed down from several ape generations they get changed a lot
That's what makes these types the best "villains". When we know they're actually right in what they're saying. Even our main character ends up admitting "Proximus was right..."
Koba is a 10. Attar is a 10. Thade is a 10. Proximus is 5.5
Thade is a 1. Zaius is a 10
"I was right about the girl.....your friend.... everything"
Proximus trying to be a follower of ceaser while being a wicked and greedy being reminds me of religious terrorists twisting the teachings of god. (I know that sounds controversial but i just find the mindset very similar)
YYYYEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!! -Proximus Caesar
1 out of 10? He was smart and ruthless.
I can't wait for proxima Caesar action figure to come out.
i can't see any characters deliver simple line "what a wonderful day" as great as proximus
When he yells in the close-up its so crazy the line between human and animal gets blurred majorly
I really wanted to see him build his roman empire version ape.😅
The strays on Drake in a vid about monkeys is wild, still funny tho
Skar King is the best ape villain... 🗿
He barely did anything
@@TheDevourerOfUniverses IN WRITING
@@TheDevourerOfUniverses And did u even see the movie, Godzilla x Kong The New Empire?
@@SGMalt. yes i seen the movie and it was a very good movie but skar king was a bit disappointing
@@TheDevourerOfUniverses In writing he was very good, in power not so good
feel like he was very wasted barely any screen time and died after doing really nothing
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I don’t think proximus is dead
I think if you really know the essence of these films then you’d know that both humans and apes could be villainous. Human beings are driven by violence and fear, but so are some of the apes. It’s really about the threat apes and humans pose to one another and who is so called good or bad really depends based on your moral compass. Cesar believed he was good then had to kill an ape to protect his family. He had to survive so was that actually bad? Idk if any side is actually a villain. Everyone is trying to survive and protect their own which is essentially “good” or noble.
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It shows that proximus is the cesar of his time, who will lead the apes to a new level of civilization amongst the apes. He also kidnapped tribes to establish an empire with him as its king. Proximus is following in the footsteps of the apes predecessors being man. He is an outlier amongst apes as hes wearing clothing/armor and is learning from the past to establishes evolution. Im sure no other group of apes are using human weaponry nor actively trying to unearth it.
Enjoyed your video... but they are apes* not monkeys, brother 👌🫡
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY!!!!!!1
Where was proximus expect in stealing clans? He is right, as soon as humans comeback they will always try to take over the remaining species. They will either cage them or kill them.
You can tell an actor did well when people side with his character. Of Proximus is a villain..he burned down a village to open a vault . What you think he was gonna do with those weapons ? Mae is not much better I mean who knows how many innocent apes she may have killed but that’s the gray area of these films .Mae’s not wrong for wanting mankind to survive but if she got the chance would she cage Noa and co.? If Proximus was more like Ceasar it would be easier to by the whole evolution thing but dude sent gorillas to burn down villages , killed indiscriminately and we all know Ape do not kill Ape 😊
Proximus > Caesar > Koba (cry about it Caesar/Koba fanboys)
He wasn’t even the villain. This woman flooded and killed apes who were essentially imprisoned
There can be 2 villains
“Maw was the enemy” What do you guys mean? You’re siding with the apes?
Do the video obout Mae she is in the same movie and she is also kinda a villain. Btw Really nice work with this video👍😄
Thank you!
Wonderful day - Acche Din
Koba had a reason to hate humans as a test subject..
the actor that played proximus looks like an evil version of nicolas cage lol
Can you do a villain review on joe from the Netflix series you
Proximus did absolutely nothing wrong. He was bringing civilization and order to the other apes who just didn't understand how the world is to work.
The weak toil for the strong, the strong get a good life.
Unfortunately he wasn't used enough in the film and won't be remembered well. They didn't should have had more scenes with him
Proximus was right.
Nice channel need thumbnail designer?
I wonder how Koba would react to Proximus
Honestly don't think they'd get along
He'd probably hate him and see him like the humans that experiment on him
Koba follow Proximus
He'd stand and bend for his king ofc. Retaliate and he's getting smacked by Prox until he's beat to a bloody pulp like Noa was.
@@crescentx5525 ayo he gonna bend for him🤨
Nah he was not a villain he was the hero
the thing I didnt like about this whole movie was this,,, compare to how the apes looked like in dawn of the apes and war of the apes, Kingdoms of the apes special effects/CGI looked,, lame.
I thought it looked good
I’m pretty sure Proximus is a chimpanzee.
Bonobo
No he isn’t better than koba
Not even close
If he was given more screen time he could have gotten closer but it's pretty hard to beat Koba.
Proximus is smarter then koba because he uses humans to his gain , if koba pretended to like humans he genuinely couldve had a kingdom like proximus
@@MS-ii1sv yeah koba transcended just as much as Ceaser did, because part 3 had factions who were inspired by koba to teamup with the extermination squad of humans to kill off ceasers people. So even after koba died, he inspired other monkeys to betray ceaser and their own people. King ceaser barely had screen time in the movie, and he was much more humble than koba.
@@e1talks632 For Koba the threat of Humanity certainly outweighed the potential of learning from them, given the shit mai pulled Proximus got too comfy having her around.
ur review is so confusing, didn't like it ngl
I see a lot of hate for the movie and Proximus, I enjoyed both.
Is this another 3 hour movie?? Wahh wah
This film is 2 hours and 25 minutes.
the film needed 3 hours
@@Browasnthere those 2 hrs and 25 felt like 3 hours, but the movie was still good.