The first gen PAL models featured S Video support. As for S Video, alot of the cheap cables online simply pass composite signal through it, resulting in excessive white levels combined with composites fuzzy image issues.
Using S Video mixed with composite was giving me a video image that was good but faulty with a scaler, so I got the original S video wire made by Nintendo for the N64, and the image is better than the Mix s/composite cable without being faulty using the scaler, using it with my snes, and the video image looks perfect, with beautiful colors.
@RetroGameCouch 3:12 - Why does she have red body color on the right side (your S-Video cable)? It is a kind of bug in game or something wrong with this cable? Do you use S-Video socket in your TV or do you use SCART socket insterting SCART Connector with S-Video socket in it?(I mean - do you have "direct" S-Video input in your TV or do you have to use S-Video through SCART connector?). My analog Sony TV has 2 Euro - SCART sockets in the back. The first one supports RGB (not S-video) and the second one supports S-video (not RGB). So if anyone of you want to use S-video without having S-Video socket in your tv: you have to make sure, that your SCART socket supports S-video signal (check your TV manual). ALSO 0:45 - composite cable CAN TRANSMIT 576i resolution (PAL standard). The same goes with S-Video. This comparison lacks RGB SCART cable. RGB is slightly better than S-video and worse than component. N64 does not have RGB signal (either PAL or NTSC). Old SNES (the first models, both NTSC and PAL) carry S-Video without problems and EVEN RGB!!! Gamecube and Wii - PAL versions - have composite, RGB, component (not S-Video) and GC and Wii - NTSC versions - have composite, S-Video, component (not RGB).
If you can get the GameCube S-Video cables from Monster Cable the quality gets another little bump. It's not mind blowing, but it is a little clearer than those S-Video cables shown.
Does scart use S video? I noticed a massive difference going from rf to scart with my n64. I couldn't make out any enemies in goldeneye even with a 32" trinitron 😂. Still contemplating an rgb mod though
@@RetroGameCouch well I already have the insurrection industries SCART cable (US manufacturer) the console and what costed more was the USPS shipping from AZ to NY
While this looks pretty legit, the real question is how? Is it like with NTSC SNESs and SCART, or PS1 and RGB, where it just needs extra capacitors and cable circuitry?
technically if you're in europe, can't you just go for a N64 Scart cable and get a scart to hdmi converter, which overall ends up being the same quality than S-video and cheaper?
because Scart is better than S-video, also cheaper to get, and to record footage for example you'll always need to convert the signal to HDMI. So Scart to hdmi ends up being cheaper and better than s-video to hdmi
The best the pal console can do is a cheaty s-video. Scart can do composite, s-video and rgb. It won't all of a sudden make your pal N64 output rgb. It will be s-video (but more probable composite) over scart.
What about 21 pin SCART connections (without mods)? I'm sure I used a 21 pin SCART connection on my N64 back in the day and it gave the best image of all the regular options at that time (it's possible I had to plug that three cable connector thing into the back of the SCART connector first and then plug the SCART connector into my TV), even better than S-Video as I recall.
I need to inform you that using the SCART-adapter makes no difference, it's still composite. The SCART-adapter works as a pass-through, and if you plug composite-cables into it, that's what you're going to get, it doesn't enhance the video.
Yes, my Sony TV has S-video, Component, Composite and HDMI ports. It's a beast! If you want to upscale s-video to HDMI I highly recommend the RetroTink2x. Check my review on my channel.
Awesome video thanks! I use composite for mine, connecting to a HD TV, but I always find the colours are too bright and I have to mess about with the display settings and can never get the perfect image. Will the S video help this or am I better getting an HDMI adapter for this?
I though my N64 got broken when I saw that not only blurry but also *noisy* texts in my LCD screens. Wipeout 64 yellow texts show this behaviour very clearly. Upscalers doesn't seem to improve so much, isn't it? It's not very documented.
Hey from the UK struggling with S-Video as its not my area, if i use a S-video and 3 composite into a retroscaler, do i just plug in the red white and S-video and miss out the yellow? N64 to flat screen. Thanks
I have a question about the controller cable, what is that black brick in the cable in your controller because I have it and I've never seen it before?
Have you ever test out that Namco TV game I saw in your video for the best signal quality since it only uses composite just like every other jakks TV games.
@@RetroGameCouch And it has it worked for you so the pixels are clearer and recognizable? And does using upgrade adapters work so I won't get rid of And modify composite?
Wont work with nin64 sinse 64 and gameqube cables are not component 720p av but ps3 does come with them so it works with ps2 on a hd tv turn sharpenss almost all the way down and yes the cabels will dowbscale to 480 i s video no need for the svideo i tested thid on os2 with god of war 2 progressive scan mode it did display and was obviously downscaling the signal to s all consoles are transmitting the max signal u need thr cable to display my problem is this i cant tell what adapter is going to upscale price is not problem but im not ordering a nodded console i dont want one how do i know what version 64 i have? And wtf cable or adapter do i need to buy must play perfext dark to jack thr framerate use cinema or widescreen les picture to process and turn off high rez
Here is my question. What HDTV (1080, but 720 is okay I guess) available now has both PAL and 288p support (through component)? Sure, me living in the US complicates things a lot, but I want to at least know some models.
What upscaler are you using the S-video cables? All the S-video to HDMI upscalers I tried had catastrophic combing artifacts whenever the N-64 struggled with frame rates.
2 Questions: Will it only work with a n s-Video cable that also has a composite output? Can you use an s-video to SCART adapter without sacrifing image quality?
I still have my official s video lead for my pal N64 from release. It was £29.99 back then and its a Scart connection to the TV. I now use a Scart video to hdmi converter with this lead on my 4k TV and the picture quality is excellent. There are some cheap rubbish s video leads out there so be careful, buy quality. The N64 has s video output it was built in the console.
Nah we don't need S-video here, in the EU even HD TVs have RGB capable SCART sockets so the only mod worth doing is RGB. On my 60" Plasma the RGB SCART image from my Amiga 1200 looks much nicer than S-video from my CD32 running the same games.
That is not the point of this video. The actual best mod is an HDMI mod. This video is about getting the best video quality from your console *without* doing any mods. It's a great improvement with just a modded cable.
So ive recently bought a PAL/AU N64 + SM64, which ofc only has composite, and all of my tv's only have component/composite and hdmi. Any help is appreciated as it seems any video is currently playing broken for me.
I found this Video now , End of 2023 , now there is a new solution : The Kaico HDMI Adapter , this passes through SVideo and Composite and has a HDMI output. Really best Picture!
Or the Retroscaler 2x (line doubler) is also a relative cheap solution to output the composite or the (better) s-video to HDMI. So it still stands that when your PAL N64 output S-video you better invest in an S-video cable in combination with the Kaico (also the one with the line doubler because I believe there are 2 versions ?) or the Retroscaler 2x
@@davef4722 did not know there is a line doubler for N64. My Kaico is no line doubler like that one for the Gamecube digital out , so it just passes the normal signal in a hdmi out. Especially for PAL n64 a line doubler would be great , that one for GC works perfect , and the Mclassic can upscale only progessive mode... So it is " Retroscaler 2x" ? Where can I get this ?
@@axk637seems my answer didn't got through or was deleted ? Maybe because I mention the place were to buy a retroscaler 2x 😊 So I'll be careful now and let describe it as a rather big chinese online buy platform with lots of seller on it. And Kaico also have a Line doubler version of their ?64/Gamecube HDMI converter which has a box with yello, on it. And this can be bought for about 70 euro on the big US online buy platform 😊
I didnt have much luck with it. A really poor image, even with the update installed. I tried it with my snes (scart) for comparison vs my ossc and it wasn't even close. Returned, which is why I'm here. Saving up for a retrotink 5x and hopefully that works. LG Oled.
Hello! Do you think it is possible to scale the signal up to HD but with the correct ratio? This means black on both sides of the screen, but i really prefer the original and correct ratios.
I don't think most TV's have s-video, so you will need an upscaler. I also used a cheap upscaler to capture the footage for this video, but it still looks a lot better than using composite.
did consolegoods reply yet? i hit him up on ebay and asked him to respond to my email. his name is Rob and he says he has been struggling with the lockdown. anyway got my cable in a few days after sending him £10 on paypal. so i can vouch for his business.
I just purchased the N64 again with the normal cables but I think the graphics are a lot worse than what I can remember from playing back in the day. I am assuming this is because of the new(er) smart TV. I noticed that there are also HDTV HDMI Cables that directly link the N64 to the TV. Would that also be a good option or does it still make a big difference by using the S cable as mentioned in your video? I have also been thinking about buying the expansion pak but I mostly play mario kart and I dont think it will make a difference for that game? Any insights would be appreciated, thanks!
If you get this svideo cable you also need an upscaler like the Retrotink2x. But you could also get the eon. This plugs into the back of your n64 and gives it hdmi.
@@RetroGameCouch much appreciated, have bought the RetroTink 2x mini just now :-) Quite expensive including overseas shipping so I hope this will improve the visuals 😁
When I was doing research into the PAL N64's output, I read on several sites that S-video will not work properly with a PAL N64. Nintendo removed some component somewhere and the result is that S-video is oversaturated and produces too bright an image. Is this cable you're showing a cable that actually adjusts for this?
Usually if you use a composite cable or S-Video cable for a UK/PAL N64 the picture would be to bright, however, I bought a re-wired S-Video cable from ConsoleGoods.co.uk that tackles this & gives a great picture over composite video.
Gran vídeo! , hay muchísima diferencia entre los dos cables me gustaría poder volver al 1996 y poder tener una Nintendo 64 con el cable s vídeo y disfrutar de todo otra vez. 😍
Cool video, hi, so what if my TV doesn't have an S-Video option? I bought a AV to HDMI converter for my N64 console, so I can hook it up to my Hisense Roku Smart TV to play the N64. Im trying to play Goldeneye 007, & its extremely dark in the background, & almost impossible to see certain aspects of levels during game play? Im looking for a solution to this please, thanks man 👍🙏😎 The AV to HDMI converter has both 720p, & 1080p setting switch on the converter. Which setting is best for my situation? Should the switch on the converter be on 1080p, or on 720p setting? Also, whats the next option after that, for adjusting the darkness setting for the TV picture, ,& for the ingame picture settings? Thanks a bunch 👍🙏😎
Make sure the TV is on the Game setting if it has one to reduce lag. To convert Composite, svideo or component to hdmi I recommend the Retrotink2x. I did a review on that.
@@RetroGameCouch My US N64 wasn't modded since we are talking about back in the 90's so sure it was just composite over scart, but since it was over scart, it gave a notable improvement in picture quality compared to s-video. Don't ask me why but it was a well known fact back in the N64 days that Scart was the way to go.
I live in Sweden we have PAL here but i have imported a NTSC consoles because PAL games are so damn slow. Who even wants to play PAL when you can get the games NTSC for the same price often cheaper?
Wow, my pal N64 is just dumb. I bought generic S-Video cable from Ebay, soldered required resistors and capacitors, and dot crawl is still present... :v Anyone had this problem before? I simply don't want to waste my money on another S-Video cable :/
Dizapku There’ll still be some dot-crawl, as the S-Video combines all chroma information into one cable. However, much of the rainbowing and some of the dot crawl will be reduced with S-Video.
No, NTSC N64s doesn't suffer from this issue. S Video doesn't produce any dot crawl Funny thing is that I have dot crawl on s video on every TV, but when I used scart connector on my other display, dots turned into rainbows (visible on edges). It's still not correct S-Video signal, Nintendo just f*cked it. If I were you, I'd check on other TV if you have dot crawl effect. From my experience, rainbow effect = somehow filtered dot crawl.
I'm here cuz I've been fighting with issue since 2016 or 17 and I finally found solution: • First, you need to dissasembly your N64 and verify the motherboard's revision. Only early N64's can output S-Video (except the french ones). Supported revisions: (P)-01 and (P)-02. Later ones requires modding (quite hard), RGB will be much better option in that case. • Then you need to open up the cable's connector and reseat the ground pin. For some reason, N64 has two ground pins. Ground pin number 6 is for audio and composite, pin 5 is for S-Video (or just for chroma, this needs to be verified). • Component's order matters! 75 Ohm resistors first, then capacitors. • Rainbow effects: check if your TV supports S-Video over scart, your adapter might require rewiring. S-Video over scart is not a standard thing and many TV's don't support that, look for alternative wirings. Also, don't bridge pins 15 and 20 on the SCART! S-Video wires cannot be bridged! • Bonus tip: you can use some insulating tape inside the AV plug to cover the composite pin. Or just ground the composite pin for safety. • 2nd bonus tip: clean the entire N64 motherboard. • Needs to be verified: capacitor's voltage. I used 6.3v caps. S-Video does NOT introduce any artifacts like dot crawl. You should get a good quality, perfectly stable picture. Also, S-Video leads with additional composite connnectors are fine as long as they have a separate wires. Don't waste your money on overpriced PAL N64 S-Video cables, It's just milking people who cannot solder themselves. Making custom cable is easy and cheap. If you seriously want to spend so much money, get RGB mod instead. Nowdays every N64 can be RGB modded, It's cheaper and better.
@@RetroGameCouch what about those SCART adapters that have S-Video input? Would you reccomend it? I'm thinking of doing it since I don't wanna shell the price of a console on an adapter
Ziet er goed uit enzo. Maar ik denk dat dit ook aan je tv ligt hoe hij met het signaal omgaat plus meeste modernr tv hebben geen svideo Ingang meer, dus is compisite video een logischer keus. En neej ik heb helaas niet de expansion pack. Wie weet als ik hem ooit tegen kom op de markt🤔
Niet helemaal. Ik heb in deze video een S-VIDEO / COMPOSITE naar HDMI upscaler gebruikt. En het verschil is erg zichtbaar, vooral op mijn grote LCD TV. Daarnaast heb ik een 1702 CRT en een DELL 2001FP met S-VIDEO voor de echte retro experience.
Okay dat klinkt meer logisch, maar dan nog ff een HDMI upscaler kopen voor iets wat een tv al redelijk goed doet tegenwoordig. zie ik niet 1 2 3 het nut van in.
The Body Harvest result was most likely due to the developers targeting assets for composite. You can't polish a turd....s-video ain't gonna do shit if your textures are low-res to begin with.
![Let's RGB Mod an N64! [Tim Worthington's N64RGB]](/img/n.gif)
The first gen PAL models featured S Video support.
As for S Video, alot of the cheap cables online simply pass composite signal through it, resulting in excessive white levels combined with composites fuzzy image issues.
The cable I used was cheap but still gave a much crisper image. The video clearly shows this.
Nah I had this exact thing happen.
Using S Video mixed with composite was giving me a video image that was good but faulty with a scaler, so I got the original S video wire made by Nintendo for the N64, and the image is better than the Mix s/composite cable without being faulty using the scaler, using it with my snes, and the video image looks perfect, with beautiful colors.
Thanks for clearing this up, I always thought PAL N64s only output composite!
This is probably the best budget option from a PAL n64 if I compliment this cable with a powered S-Video to HDMI converter for use on my OLED TV
Get a Retrotink2x. There is a video on my channel about it. It's the best affordable option dedicated to retro.
@@RetroGameCouch i agree
or a Rad2X
@RetroGameCouch 3:12 - Why does she have red body color on the right side (your S-Video cable)? It is a kind of bug in game or something wrong with this cable? Do you use S-Video socket in your TV or do you use SCART socket insterting SCART Connector with S-Video socket in it?(I mean - do you have "direct" S-Video input in your TV or do you have to use S-Video through SCART connector?). My analog Sony TV has 2 Euro - SCART sockets in the back. The first one supports RGB (not S-video) and the second one supports S-video (not RGB). So if anyone of you want to use S-video without having S-Video socket in your tv: you have to make sure, that your SCART socket supports S-video signal (check your TV manual).
ALSO 0:45 - composite cable CAN TRANSMIT 576i resolution (PAL standard). The same goes with S-Video. This comparison lacks RGB SCART cable. RGB is slightly better than S-video and worse than component. N64 does not have RGB signal (either PAL or NTSC). Old SNES (the first models, both NTSC and PAL) carry S-Video without problems and EVEN RGB!!! Gamecube and Wii - PAL versions - have composite, RGB, component (not S-Video) and GC and Wii - NTSC versions - have composite, S-Video, component (not RGB).
It's not a bug in the video AFAIK. And I use UT on a screen that has a dedicated s-video socket. For recording I use a line doubler : Retrotink2x
@@RetroGameCouch Thanks for answer. Have a good one :) Thumbs up for answer and for video :)
actually PAL N64 supports S-Video, you just have to got the right model and the right cable(like the ones they sell at consolegoodsuk
ConsoleGoods.co.uk is a good website. I bought that modified N64 S-Video cable from them.
This gets a like just for showing Body Harvest in this video! It's one of my most favorite games.
If you can get the GameCube S-Video cables from Monster Cable the quality gets another little bump. It's not mind blowing, but it is a little clearer than those S-Video cables shown.
Like RGB you will need high end S-video cables if you want to get a better picture
So how do we mod the old pal cable to host the s-video?
Definitely will pick up an S video cable for my N64. Great video as always.
Thank you!
Where to get cable now please
Looks to be the same cable that I use with the snes, that's good because I just picked up a n64 with no cables for $50 AUD.
Does scart use S video? I noticed a massive difference going from rf to scart with my n64. I couldn't make out any enemies in goldeneye even with a 32" trinitron 😂. Still contemplating an rgb mod though
I got mine RGB modded with the inexpensive RGB mod with the NUS1 models
Define inexpensive (in relation to a €10 cable) ☺
@@RetroGameCouch well I already have the insurrection industries SCART cable (US manufacturer) the console and what costed more was the USPS shipping from AZ to NY
I only have a special edition pokemon n64. no option for s-video for me? :(
So if I purchase s video cables it will look sharper? right now im using regular cables on a led tv and it’s blurry
Great video mate! Thanks for the shoutout!! Let's do a new challenge SOON!
Yes!
Clemens Wenners Music That is a great idea
Got suggestions?
RetroGameCouch I can't think of anything now, I'd like to see what you guys come up with, though
Composite looks like texture filtering but from the 90s. S-Video looks more like PC Doom
While this looks pretty legit, the real question is how? Is it like with NTSC SNESs and SCART, or PS1 and RGB, where it just needs extra capacitors and cable circuitry?
so you wanna say it wont work on my grey smoke model? :(
I have just a converter and you can’t make out mini maps and renders sniper rifles worthless.
technically if you're in europe, can't you just go for a N64 Scart cable and get a scart to hdmi converter, which overall ends up being the same quality than S-video and cheaper?
A converter always means some loss of quality. So why would you?
because Scart is better than S-video, also cheaper to get, and to record footage for example you'll always need to convert the signal to HDMI.
So Scart to hdmi ends up being cheaper and better than s-video to hdmi
The best the pal console can do is a cheaty s-video. Scart can do composite, s-video and rgb. It won't all of a sudden make your pal N64 output rgb. It will be s-video (but more probable composite) over scart.
What about 21 pin SCART connections (without mods)? I'm sure I used a 21 pin SCART connection on my N64 back in the day and it gave the best image of all the regular options at that time (it's possible I had to plug that three cable connector thing into the back of the SCART connector first and then plug the SCART connector into my TV), even better than S-Video as I recall.
I need to inform you that using the SCART-adapter makes no difference, it's still composite. The SCART-adapter works as a pass-through, and if you plug composite-cables into it, that's what you're going to get, it doesn't enhance the video.
did your TV have a native S-VIDEO port? Otherwise you would need S-VIDEO to HDMI adapter or something. Those adapters quality can be hit or miss
Yes, my Sony TV has S-video, Component, Composite and HDMI ports. It's a beast! If you want to upscale s-video to HDMI I highly recommend the RetroTink2x. Check my review on my channel.
Awesome video thanks! I use composite for mine, connecting to a HD TV, but I always find the colours are too bright and I have to mess about with the display settings and can never get the perfect image. Will the S video help this or am I better getting an HDMI adapter for this?
Really awesome video, Keep this up !! Love your info video's :D
Thank you!
I though my N64 got broken when I saw that not only blurry but also *noisy* texts in my LCD screens. Wipeout 64 yellow texts show this behaviour very clearly.
Upscalers doesn't seem to improve so much, isn't it? It's not very documented.
Hey from the UK struggling with S-Video as its not my area, if i use a S-video and 3 composite into a retroscaler, do i just plug in the red white and S-video and miss out the yellow?
N64 to flat screen. Thanks
Yes, you either use composite (yellow) or s-video. Red and white is audio.
I have a question about the controller cable, what is that black brick in the cable in your controller because I have it and I've never seen it before?
I guess you mean this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead
Yeah, that's it thank you so much, should I keep it in or should I take it out?
Leave it on. It's a filter.
Have you ever test out that Namco TV game I saw in your video for the best signal quality since it only uses composite just like every other jakks TV games.
If your TV does not have Composite input, you can upscale the video to hdmi using the Retrotink2x.
@@RetroGameCouch And it has it worked for you so the pixels are clearer and recognizable? And does using upgrade adapters work so I won't get rid of And modify composite?
How can i add the s cable if it doesnt come with the cord like yours?
www.google.com/search?q=n64+s-video+pal+cable
Wont work with nin64 sinse 64 and gameqube cables are not component 720p av but ps3 does come with them so it works with ps2 on a hd tv turn sharpenss almost all the way down and yes the cabels will dowbscale to 480 i s video no need for the svideo i tested thid on os2 with god of war 2 progressive scan mode it did display and was obviously downscaling the signal to s all consoles are transmitting the max signal u need thr cable to display my problem is this i cant tell what adapter is going to upscale price is not problem but im not ordering a nodded console i dont want one how do i know what version 64 i have? And wtf cable or adapter do i need to buy must play perfext dark to jack thr framerate use cinema or widescreen les picture to process and turn off high rez
Here is my question. What HDTV (1080, but 720 is okay I guess) available now has both PAL and 288p support (through component)? Sure, me living in the US complicates things a lot, but I want to at least know some models.
This was the most helpful video that I needed.
What upscaler are you using the S-video cables? All the S-video to HDMI upscalers I tried had catastrophic combing artifacts whenever the N-64 struggled with frame rates.
I reviewed it on my channel: ua-cam.com/video/q4091D5RJA4/v-deo.html
Why don't you use LevelHike's cable?
Do you have more info?
2 Questions:
Will it only work with a n s-Video cable that also has a composite output?
Can you use an s-video to SCART adapter without sacrifing image quality?
I don't see how passing through a scart adapter would weaken image quality. Scart is designed to be used for different sorts of video signals.
does it work on a NUS-001 model? also my tv doesn't have s video, only component and hdmi. any cheap converters with low delay you know of?
The Retrotink2x. Check my review
are all the unmodded pal n64 version compatible with the s-video?
No, a few special models are not. It's mentioned in the video.
I still have my official s video lead for my pal N64 from release. It was £29.99 back then and its a Scart connection to the TV. I now use a Scart video to hdmi converter with this lead on my 4k TV and the picture quality is excellent. There are some cheap rubbish s video leads out there so be careful, buy quality.
The N64 has s video output it was built in the console.
Can you link to the cable you're using please. And is it better quality that the display shown in this video?
Search for 'N64 svideo' on eBay.
could be cool if you made a complete video pack will all the systems you have on what are the best video options like the C64er playstations ect ect.
That is a great idea for a video!
It would help me for sure becouse i have a C64 and C128 and have no idea what are the best option :)
For the c64: s-video. ;)
Multi Out of N64 have conectors to Component (RGB) cabke?
You didn't give a shout out to RGB.
How do you convert S-video to HDMI though?
Check my video on the Retrotink2x.
Have you used an S-video to HDMI adapter? Are they any good? Or is an S-video cable directly into an S-video port the best way to go?
I used the retrotink 2x upscaler. I did a review of that device
RetroGameCouch can you link me? 😝
ua-cam.com/video/q4091D5RJA4/v-deo.html
RetroGameCouch Thank you
😃
Before I watch, quick question, is it fully and properly compatible with UK PAL N64s do you know?
Yes, we’re in the same video region.
Nice comparison video but a real shame you chose to show it in a stretched 16:9 ratio.
Which brand of S-video cable did you use? im trying to buy a decent one from amazon :)
No particular brand. Search for: n64 pal s-video on eBay.
Nah we don't need S-video here, in the EU even HD TVs have RGB capable SCART sockets so the only mod worth doing is RGB. On my 60" Plasma the RGB SCART image from my Amiga 1200 looks much nicer than S-video from my CD32 running the same games.
That is not the point of this video. The actual best mod is an HDMI mod. This video is about getting the best video quality from your console *without* doing any mods. It's a great improvement with just a modded cable.
PAL N64 doesn't support RGB Scart without modding, just sayin'
So ive recently bought a PAL/AU N64 + SM64, which ofc only has composite, and all of my tv's only have component/composite and hdmi. Any help is appreciated as it seems any video is currently playing broken for me.
There are various composite to hdmi upscalers for sale on eBay.
What tv are you using with the s-video output? i.e HDTV or the old school box tv.
The Dell 2001fp, best retro tft out there IMHO.
I found this Video now , End of 2023 , now there is a new solution : The Kaico HDMI Adapter , this passes through SVideo and Composite and has a HDMI output. Really best Picture!
Or the Retroscaler 2x (line doubler) is also a relative cheap solution to output the composite or the (better) s-video to HDMI. So it still stands that when your PAL N64 output S-video you better invest in an S-video cable in combination with the Kaico (also the one with the line doubler because I believe there are 2 versions ?) or the Retroscaler 2x
The idea was that without external hardware, or mods, it was possible to get the best quality with a different cable. RetroTink2x is great BTW.
@@davef4722 did not know there is a line doubler for N64. My Kaico is no line doubler like that one for the Gamecube digital out , so it just passes the normal signal in a hdmi out. Especially for PAL n64 a line doubler would be great , that one for GC works perfect , and the Mclassic can upscale only progessive mode...
So it is " Retroscaler 2x" ? Where can I get this ?
@@axk637seems my answer didn't got through or was deleted ? Maybe because I mention the place were to buy a retroscaler 2x 😊
So I'll be careful now and let describe it as a rather big chinese online buy platform with lots of seller on it. And Kaico also have a Line doubler version of their ?64/Gamecube HDMI converter which has a box with yello, on it. And this can be bought for about 70 euro on the big US online buy platform 😊
I didnt have much luck with it. A really poor image, even with the update installed. I tried it with my snes (scart) for comparison vs my ossc and it wasn't even close. Returned, which is why I'm here. Saving up for a retrotink 5x and hopefully that works. LG Oled.
Hello! Do you think it is possible to scale the signal up to HD but with the correct ratio? This means black on both sides of the screen, but i really prefer the original and correct ratios.
Yes, check my video on the retrotink2x. ua-cam.com/video/q4091D5RJA4/v-deo.html
Hey, whats that beat in the background? Sounds really cool :D
Found it! ua-cam.com/video/ekpKe0t-MOI/v-deo.html
Is this for use on today’s HD TVs? Or should I get a hdmi converter?
I don't think most TV's have s-video, so you will need an upscaler. I also used a cheap upscaler to capture the footage for this video, but it still looks a lot better than using composite.
It's been two days and had no reply yet from the seller from that site. What kind of business is he running man
Same here, been five days and no reply?
did consolegoods reply yet? i hit him up on ebay and asked him to respond to my email. his name is Rob and he says he has been struggling with the lockdown. anyway got my cable in a few days after sending him £10 on paypal. so i can vouch for his business.
Hi there , you played on a crt tv right?
Yes. But regardsless of the type of screen, s-video will look better than composit.
@@RetroGameCouch
Of course .
I have a pal one too and but i wanted to know how would a modded rgb compare to S video on a Crt
I just purchased the N64 again with the normal cables but I think the graphics are a lot worse than what I can remember from playing back in the day. I am assuming this is because of the new(er) smart TV.
I noticed that there are also HDTV HDMI Cables that directly link the N64 to the TV. Would that also be a good option or does it still make a big difference by using the S cable as mentioned in your video? I have also been thinking about buying the expansion pak but I mostly play mario kart and I dont think it will make a difference for that game?
Any insights would be appreciated, thanks!
If you get this svideo cable you also need an upscaler like the Retrotink2x. But you could also get the eon. This plugs into the back of your n64 and gives it hdmi.
@@RetroGameCouch much appreciated, have bought the RetroTink 2x mini just now :-)
Quite expensive including overseas shipping so I hope this will improve the visuals 😁
@@JAYSYNTATIC Trust me, it will. I just got mine and its crisp on my LCD tv =)
When I was doing research into the PAL N64's output, I read on several sites that S-video will not work properly with a PAL N64. Nintendo removed some component somewhere and the result is that S-video is oversaturated and produces too bright an image. Is this cable you're showing a cable that actually adjusts for this?
Exactly.
Usually if you use a composite cable or S-Video cable for a UK/PAL N64 the picture would be to bright, however, I bought a re-wired S-Video cable from ConsoleGoods.co.uk that tackles this & gives a great picture over composite video.
@@RetroGameCouch
Have you looked on ConsoleGoods.co.uk?
I always used my GameCube video adapter
What does that have to do with an N64?
I meant i used my gamecube adaptor in my n64 since its the same connection but the gamecube one is better
It doesn't do component. So for an unmodified pal, s-video is the best we get.
How old is chaozz?
Hahaha..
Gran vídeo! , hay muchísima diferencia entre los dos cables me gustaría poder volver al 1996 y poder tener una Nintendo 64 con el cable s vídeo y disfrutar de todo otra vez. 😍
Cool video, hi, so what if my TV doesn't have an S-Video option? I bought a AV to HDMI converter for my N64 console, so I can hook it up to my Hisense Roku Smart TV to play the N64. Im trying to play Goldeneye 007, & its extremely dark in the background, & almost impossible to see certain aspects of levels during game play?
Im looking for a solution to this please, thanks man 👍🙏😎
The AV to HDMI converter has both 720p, & 1080p setting switch on the converter. Which setting is best for my situation? Should the switch on the converter be on 1080p, or on 720p setting? Also, whats the next option after that, for adjusting the darkness setting for the TV picture, ,& for the ingame picture settings? Thanks a bunch 👍🙏😎
Make sure the TV is on the Game setting if it has one to reduce lag. To convert Composite, svideo or component to hdmi I recommend the Retrotink2x. I did a review on that.
Finally a new video :D
Yes!!
PAL units also had S-Video output
Scart gave the best video output back in the day - for my US N64 anyway. Way better quality than S-Video
Only if you n64 was modded to output rgb. Else it was just composite over scart.
@@RetroGameCouch My US N64 wasn't modded since we are talking about back in the 90's so sure it was just composite over scart, but since it was over scart, it gave a notable improvement in picture quality compared to s-video. Don't ask me why but it was a well known fact back in the N64 days that Scart was the way to go.
@@RetroGameCouch do you connect all except the yellow?
I live in Sweden we have PAL here but i have imported a NTSC consoles because PAL games are so damn slow. Who even wants to play PAL when you can get the games NTSC for the same price often cheaper?
Composite at 2.52 she looks fine. Then the s video at 3.02 she's all red what's going on there.
Wow, my pal N64 is just dumb. I bought generic S-Video cable from Ebay, soldered required resistors and capacitors, and dot crawl is still present... :v
Anyone had this problem before? I simply don't want to waste my money on another S-Video cable :/
Dizapku There’ll still be some dot-crawl, as the S-Video combines all chroma information into one cable. However, much of the rainbowing and some of the dot crawl will be reduced with S-Video.
No, NTSC N64s doesn't suffer from this issue. S Video doesn't produce any dot crawl
Funny thing is that I have dot crawl on s video on every TV, but when I used scart connector on my other display, dots turned into rainbows (visible on edges). It's still not correct S-Video signal, Nintendo just f*cked it.
If I were you, I'd check on other TV if you have dot crawl effect. From my experience, rainbow effect = somehow filtered dot crawl.
I'm here cuz I've been fighting with issue since 2016 or 17 and I finally found solution:
• First, you need to dissasembly your N64 and verify the motherboard's revision. Only early N64's can output S-Video (except the french ones). Supported revisions: (P)-01 and (P)-02. Later ones requires modding (quite hard), RGB will be much better option in that case.
• Then you need to open up the cable's connector and reseat the ground pin. For some reason, N64 has two ground pins. Ground pin number 6 is for audio and composite, pin 5 is for S-Video (or just for chroma, this needs to be verified).
• Component's order matters! 75 Ohm resistors first, then capacitors.
• Rainbow effects: check if your TV supports S-Video over scart, your adapter might require rewiring. S-Video over scart is not a standard thing and many TV's don't support that, look for alternative wirings. Also, don't bridge pins 15 and 20 on the SCART! S-Video wires cannot be bridged!
• Bonus tip: you can use some insulating tape inside the AV plug to cover the composite pin. Or just ground the composite pin for safety.
• 2nd bonus tip: clean the entire N64 motherboard.
• Needs to be verified: capacitor's voltage. I used 6.3v caps.
S-Video does NOT introduce any artifacts like dot crawl. You should get a good quality, perfectly stable picture.
Also, S-Video leads with additional composite connnectors are fine as long as they have a separate wires.
Don't waste your money on overpriced PAL N64 S-Video cables, It's just milking people who cannot solder themselves. Making custom cable is easy and cheap. If you seriously want to spend so much money, get RGB mod instead. Nowdays every N64 can be RGB modded, It's cheaper and better.
Im so glad youre not shouting
shit, my tv doesn't have S-video in.... :(
Then get a Retrotink2x ua-cam.com/video/q4091D5RJA4/v-deo.html
@@RetroGameCouch what about those SCART adapters that have S-Video input? Would you reccomend it? I'm thinking of doing it since I don't wanna shell the price of a console on an adapter
These work too, at least on my setup.
Ziet er goed uit enzo. Maar ik denk dat dit ook aan je tv ligt hoe hij met het signaal omgaat plus meeste modernr tv hebben geen svideo Ingang meer, dus is compisite video een logischer keus. En neej ik heb helaas niet de expansion pack. Wie weet als ik hem ooit tegen kom op de markt🤔
Niet helemaal. Ik heb in deze video een S-VIDEO / COMPOSITE naar HDMI upscaler gebruikt. En het verschil is erg zichtbaar, vooral op mijn grote LCD TV. Daarnaast heb ik een 1702 CRT en een DELL 2001FP met S-VIDEO voor de echte retro experience.
Okay dat klinkt meer logisch, maar dan nog ff een HDMI upscaler kopen voor iets wat een tv al redelijk goed doet tegenwoordig. zie ik niet 1 2 3 het nut van in.
The Body Harvest result was most likely due to the developers targeting assets for composite. You can't polish a turd....s-video ain't gonna do shit if your textures are low-res to begin with.
Are you dutch?
Misschien. 😀
Yes, about the GBA sp
Man... thank you
You're welcome
I subscribed
Thank you!
You broke my heart i have a pokemon console :(
Beautiful console nonetheless!
Dont buy a S-Video cable from consolegoods, cheap bad cable that give you jailbar interference!
Oooh bruce lee vinyl
I drew it myself actually. ua-cam.com/video/cV9OetC9oxU/v-deo.html
One of my favorites as well
@@RetroGameCouch I am stuck at Serbia stage 1. but i love this game :)
Gta in space 😁
@@RetroGameCouch Yes, but the 3rd stage of the game is hard to bear
Beat
🍻👍👍
Retro gaming is ruined in pal regions, i hate the invention of pal, why can't everyone use ntsc.
Do you know a good Dutch site where this cable can be ordered?