Despite the frictional story, these two women sivekar and Humasha were ambitious. When these women were spending imperial money on luxury in the time of crisis., turhan was calm and patient. She waited for the right time to get the throne.
Şekerpare Hatun was initially a concubine of Sultan İbrahim. She was later married to Kara Musa Pasha, but she still had great influence over Sultan İbrahim and quickly settled affairs in Topkapı Palace for others for money thanks to her influence on the Sjltan and her husband Kara Musa Pasha. At some point she made a mistake and messed with Kösem Sultan, then Kösem Sultan had her punished. Her husband was imprisoned (Yedi Kule Zindanı) and she was exiled to the Egyptian/Eteopian border (then the southernmost border of the Ottoman Empire). They say she died as a beggar. After she was banished, her accumulated gold was found, whereupon Sultan İbrahim said: "Hey infidel! He used to swear that I have no money to buy bread for the evening, look what they came up with, it's all my property!"
Ibrahim is as stupid as the people he surrounds himself with. In my opinion, what happened to him was the result of those stupid decisions, especially keeping that greedy Cinci Hodga in the palace. And Atike wasn't too smart either, nor was Sivekar, who was just arrogant to ask her sultan's mother for something like that.
Ofc in real life, the reason ehy janissaries k!lled him was becuz of how tyrant he was, a mad tyrant sultan with a mental illness, he k!lled 280 innocent concubines and r@ped the daughter of the grand mufti and spent all his days drinking and doing dirty with every woman he laid eyes on so naturally everyone got fed up with him esp the soldiers and the religious leaders leading to his demise
This is a petty reason Kosem killed Sivekar vs what actually happened to the real Sivekar. Sivekar made Ibrahim suspect there was infidelity in his harem. He tortured many of them, didn't get the answers he was looking for so decided to just get rid of any issues. He ordered 260+ women to be put in sacks and drowned. He only spared his top 8 women, all titled with Haseki if I remember right.
Out of all the sons of kosem who became sultan murad is best and ibrahim is worst. Infact I feel ibrahim was stupidest and worst of all the sultans. How good it would be if murad didn't die and also didn't kill kasim
Ofc in real life, the reason ehy janissaries k!lled him was becuz of how tyrant he was, a mad tyrant sultan with a mental illness, he k!lled 280 innocent concubines and r@ped the daughter of the grand mufti and spent all his days drinking and doing dirty with every woman he laid eyes on so naturally everyone got fed up with him esp the soldiers and the religious leaders leading to his demise. And murad wasnt the best, he was a good leader but he was the reason ibrahim turned out the way he was. Everyone blames kosem but in real history, it was the greed of brothers that caused all this. Murad locked up his brothers in cages, away from social interaction, k!lled two of his brothers and kept ibrahim alive so he became insane.
I agree with Bruhno. They left out the vast majority of Ibrahim's true actions. He killed his entire harem except his favorite 8. Sivekar was part of that, she planted it in his head. He assaulted women not in his harem. Muslim women of the nobility aka completely off limits. He tortured his sisters, wrecked havoc on the harem laws, and mo one knew what he would do next. He was completely crazy.
Irl, Ibrahim loved fat women so ordered the fattest women in Istanbul be brought to him, she was the daughter of an Armenian Trader, she gave birth to a son, Cihanger, who died in childhood, she was given the title Haseki Sultan. Kosem felt threatened by her influence over Ibrahim, so one night she invited her to dinner and poisoned her. Ibrahim was devasted but was told she died of natural causes.
@@ShazIam23 it's a historical legend. So there are legends that say kosem killed her not just from the series but most likely this legend is not true because some sources claim she died in 1693 much after everyone from this series were already dead
@@ShazIam23there is a legend, since Sivekar was really influential on Sultan Ibrahim, she spread some rumours about his Harem, which caused that Ibrahim had 280 concubines killed plus several service members of Harem, Kosem was really furious about it and had her poisoned and killed. A legend.
Haven’t gotten to this part yet. I’m still back before Ahmed dies but I still watch the clips. It keeps me watching the series. It’s just not as good as the first one . Hurrem and Suleiman beautifully told. I actually bought replicas of Hurrem’s jewelry . My daughter in law wore the earrings at her wedding to my son. She looked beautiful. ❤ I have my own ring of power and matching necklace. 😂❤
@@abeerabatool8953 this show was good in season 1 but like every other show, the fame got to the heads of the producers and they literally turned the whole thing into a useless fiction drama instead of a historical thriller. The amount of historical inaccuracies esp how wrong they portrayed magnificent mother kosem sultan and how people gobbled up this fiction bs as the truth ruining the image of one of the worlds greatest queen,no wonder the ottoman descendants sued the show makers
@@bruhno1545 as inaccurate as both series were, watching and loving them encouraged me to find out more about the actual history of the Ottomans (of which I knew precisely zero beforehand! It wasn't something that was taught or even mentioned in UK schools in the 80s) and now, visiting Turkey and a lot of the places referenced (and later researched) is on my bucket list ❤️
Despite the frictional story, these two women sivekar and Humasha were ambitious. When these women were spending imperial money on luxury in the time of crisis., turhan was calm and patient. She waited for the right time to get the throne.
Sivekar Sultan the only woman out of 8 hasekis of Ibrahim to have a notable influence over him👸🏻👸🏻
Şekerpare Hatun was initially a concubine of Sultan İbrahim. She was later married to Kara Musa Pasha, but she still had great influence over Sultan İbrahim and quickly settled affairs in Topkapı Palace for others for money thanks to her influence on the Sjltan and her husband Kara Musa Pasha.
At some point she made a mistake and messed with Kösem Sultan, then Kösem Sultan had her punished.
Her husband was imprisoned (Yedi Kule Zindanı) and she was exiled to the Egyptian/Eteopian border (then the southernmost border of the Ottoman Empire).
They say she died as a beggar.
After she was banished, her accumulated gold was found, whereupon Sultan İbrahim said:
"Hey infidel! He used to swear that I have no money to buy bread for the evening, look what they came up with, it's all my property!"
Ibrahim is as stupid as the people he surrounds himself with. In my opinion, what happened to him was the result of those stupid decisions, especially keeping that greedy Cinci Hodga in the palace. And Atike wasn't too smart either, nor was Sivekar, who was just arrogant to ask her sultan's mother for something like that.
Ofc in real life, the reason ehy janissaries k!lled him was becuz of how tyrant he was, a mad tyrant sultan with a mental illness, he k!lled 280 innocent concubines and r@ped the daughter of the grand mufti and spent all his days drinking and doing dirty with every woman he laid eyes on so naturally everyone got fed up with him esp the soldiers and the religious leaders leading to his demise
To be fair, he is called Ibrahim the Mad.
This is a petty reason Kosem killed Sivekar vs what actually happened to the real Sivekar.
Sivekar made Ibrahim suspect there was infidelity in his harem. He tortured many of them, didn't get the answers he was looking for so decided to just get rid of any issues. He ordered 260+ women to be put in sacks and drowned. He only spared his top 8 women, all titled with Haseki if I remember right.
Wow! The brutality in halls of power was illustrated best in this series, but apparently they went light on some of it.
Can't say that i feel bad for Sivekar. She tried to mess with Kosem. 😂😂 She should have stayed in her lane.
exactly.
How she messed with her she just wannted those earrings right?? 🤣🤣
@@tokiohotel122 hii hurrem sultan hate you to core 😑
@@romanaiqbal10 she asked for the last thing Kösem had from her beloved Ahmed, knowing their significance to Kösem. She had it coming.
@@fatou_ll5322 🤣🤣🤣
3:03 Ibrahim seems to have forgotten how many times Kosem saved his life.
To make him his puppet
Before speaking about kosem sultana mind your language
The earings belongs to kosem Sultana its her special one , it only suit on her , my beautiful sultana you suffered the most , 💔
Though series is dark and series but this episodes makes me laugh tha way ibrahim showed tht painting to kosem🤣🤣🤣
I never understood what went on with this painting? Can u explain?
@@renateserenay2032It's the painting of his first concubine and son that unfortunately had been converted to Christianity
Out of all the sons of kosem who became sultan murad is best and ibrahim is worst. Infact I feel ibrahim was stupidest and worst of all the sultans. How good it would be if murad didn't die and also didn't kill kasim
Ofc in real life, the reason ehy janissaries k!lled him was becuz of how tyrant he was, a mad tyrant sultan with a mental illness, he k!lled 280 innocent concubines and r@ped the daughter of the grand mufti and spent all his days drinking and doing dirty with every woman he laid eyes on so naturally everyone got fed up with him esp the soldiers and the religious leaders leading to his demise. And murad wasnt the best, he was a good leader but he was the reason ibrahim turned out the way he was. Everyone blames kosem but in real history, it was the greed of brothers that caused all this. Murad locked up his brothers in cages, away from social interaction, k!lled two of his brothers and kept ibrahim alive so he became insane.
I agree with Bruhno.
They left out the vast majority of Ibrahim's true actions. He killed his entire harem except his favorite 8. Sivekar was part of that, she planted it in his head. He assaulted women not in his harem. Muslim women of the nobility aka completely off limits. He tortured his sisters, wrecked havoc on the harem laws, and mo one knew what he would do next. He was completely crazy.
@@bruhno1545agree
Also....seeing Atiki boils my blood. She annoys me.
frr especially after what she did to gevherhan
Agree
@@m7377-p4jthe actress who played her is stunning.
@@m7377-p4jexactly the reason why
Kosem would never had left Murad's presence without his leave. Ibrahim is ridiculous.
The harem looks different
It looks dark, foreboding, and gloomy....
Yeah, everything seems slightly 'off' compared to the original doesn't it!
Irl, Ibrahim loved fat women so ordered the fattest women in Istanbul be brought to him, she was the daughter of an Armenian Trader, she gave birth to a son, Cihanger, who died in childhood, she was given the title Haseki Sultan. Kosem felt threatened by her influence over Ibrahim, so one night she invited her to dinner and poisoned her. Ibrahim was devasted but was told she died of natural causes.
So how do we no kosem killed her if people at that time thought she died of natural causes?
@@truthseeker-nv6ny is it known for a fact that Kosem ☠️ her, or just from the series?
@@ShazIam23 it's a historical legend. So there are legends that say kosem killed her not just from the series but most likely this legend is not true because some sources claim she died in 1693 much after everyone from this series were already dead
@@truthseeker-nv6ny thank you for the info! ☺️
@@ShazIam23there is a legend, since Sivekar was really influential on Sultan Ibrahim, she spread some rumours about his Harem, which caused that Ibrahim had 280 concubines killed plus several service members of Harem, Kosem was really furious about it and had her poisoned and killed. A legend.
Haven’t gotten to this part yet. I’m still back before Ahmed dies but I still watch the clips. It keeps me watching the series. It’s just not as good as the first one . Hurrem and Suleiman beautifully told. I actually bought replicas of Hurrem’s jewelry . My daughter in law wore the earrings at her wedding to my son. She looked beautiful. ❤ I have my own ring of power and matching necklace. 😂❤
Ah sivekar Hatun......Ahhh 😂😂😅
Isn't that man talking to Ibrahim his uncle mustafa?
No, Mustafa is already dead by then.
19:14😂😂
ibrahim has a misshappen head and that sivekar was just stupid
Kosome became power hunger women in the end
She became Safiye 2.
She became Safiye part 2 😂
سلطان ابراهیم سلیقه چه عجیب بوده
6:58 😂😂
10:40 😂😂
I dindt like magnificent kosem, its weird, any valide sultan treaten like that, 😂 majesty like didnt have brain 😢
Yeah that's why I say that magnificent century: Hürrem is way better than it
@@abeerabatool8953 this show was good in season 1 but like every other show, the fame got to the heads of the producers and they literally turned the whole thing into a useless fiction drama instead of a historical thriller. The amount of historical inaccuracies esp how wrong they portrayed magnificent mother kosem sultan and how people gobbled up this fiction bs as the truth ruining the image of one of the worlds greatest queen,no wonder the ottoman descendants sued the show makers
@@bruhno1545 I know I watched it twice
@@bruhno1545 as inaccurate as both series were, watching and loving them encouraged me to find out more about the actual history of the Ottomans (of which I knew precisely zero beforehand! It wasn't something that was taught or even mentioned in UK schools in the 80s) and now, visiting Turkey and a lot of the places referenced (and later researched) is on my bucket list ❤️
Same with some of the Chinese and Korean dramas...empresses in the palace, Ruyi, Empress Ki etc
& Ang Oki.. 😮😅🎉🎉⁉️❔❕❓❓❓
😮😮😢🎉❤
& harry_potter.. 🙂🧒🏻