It’s interesting to me how many people were bored by this in the comments. I’m a brown belt and leg locker, and thought this was a really suspenseful match. The Nadia girl did a great job defending and answering Helena’s attacks. It really came down to Nadia falling one step behind, but she did a great job and her coach was perfect in his coaching. Great match (to me).
I'm a no-belt grappler, but I still know enough to find it interesting. I don't think bjj competitions should try to appeal only to people, who have no clue what's going on. It's not a huge spectator sport anyways.
@@DariusD-fg3uj it’s not as bad as Olympic wrestling where the points are awarded in an absolutely mysterious ways and the action stops every 10 seconds
That was great Jiu Jitsu. The smiles and hug at the end before they even stood up is the great thing about Jiu Jitsu....respect and sportsmanship. Great match.
I agree. I thought this was highly technical and fun to watch. Leg locking is an entirely different system and if you aren’t well versed in the systems you can’t see the mathematics and problem solving happening here.
I mean if you know what they're doing it's still an interesting game of strategy. It's like saying that chess is unwatchable because there's not enough explosive action lol
I prefer watching a more scrambly wrestly style, but it's interesting seeing a leg lock tactician at work. I mean she took the -1 point and still got the sub, so the strategy worked.
@@kalikaputra scrambling can work at the highest levels aka Ruotolos. I mean they're borderline spazzy, but even more controlled people like Mica Galvao or Grace Gundrum chain together different positions and dominate in the transitions
@@gundropmusic true but not everyone is like that and they do walk into stuff,just that they know how to counter or exist a bad position well as their style puts them in these positions.
Helena's outfit reminds me of Samantha "Valkyrie" Valkenhaus. I don't know if Helena ever saw any of Samantha's matches and took note of the outfit, but it would have been neat if her outfit drew inspiration from Samantha.
Great match. Crevar kept on the full offensive, and Frankland for long periods actually defended and counter very well for much of the match. Skills for both are way past mine. Excellent, schooled efforts.
@@BM-of6dg She is 16 years old athlete who beats ADCC veterans- champions, stop judging everyone. How pathetic and pessimist must be you guys to criticise a young prodigy. Respect her hard work and shut the f.. up.
At the end of the day, that's her problème. Just like dudes with big beard will know they will get that shit tugged at occasionnally. You ever seen rugby players with long hair? No one cares.
@@MateiLive rugby players? Is that the ones without a helmet, sprinting at each other, colliding and sometimes kicks a ball for a distance? Not American football, nr1 head injury sport? The beard is just irritating. And it feels gross getting stuck in it with your fingers. Volleyball have rules set around hair. Matches has been lost just because of hair. But yeah, you are right. Better looking cute than practical..
I didn't understand the point you were trying to make with that rugby/American football comparison. I brought it up as an example because it's another contact sport where players with longer hair exist (men or women) and it never stopped them from playing. When you're getting pressured, pinned, grabbed, it's some hair that will bother you that much. Whether it's from your head or some else's. Don't you agree?
@@MateiLive I was trying to make the destinction between wearing a helmet or not with long hair underneath. You can easily get distracted if your hair is getting pinned to floor or pulled. Unnecessary distraction. If an American football player runs through all the way to the end line and his/her hair crosses the line it accounts as a bodypart. A positive few inches. In volleyball if even a single hair touches the net it counts as a loss in that point. My point is just put your hair up in a bun or something practical.
Maybe there's something I'm missing. But if Helena had kept Nadia's foot glued to her chest during toe holds, couldn't she have applied a better torque and submit Nadia there and then?
you really think she doesn't know the basics, you really think she doesn't know how to put a choke hold, apply an armbar, are you seriously thinking that? Why doesn't anyone go there and do the basics and beat her? you don't understand that the fight is like this because the level is so high that the game changes but nothing would work if she didn't know the basics very well
If I see two wrestlers that are trying to throw each other for 10 minutes that is real boring. Just consider one thing it is almost impossible to submit someone standing up.
We are not talkin about "only wrestling" or somethin like that here. There is a whole upper body to attack and lock. Yet we only see heel hooks and ass dragging. @@gc2276
They really need to revise the rule books to include a STFU section (no coaching) while they're are battling, if they're pros then nobody needs to be coaching them and it's also fucking annoying
@@2130dar Two guys grinding their faces together is intense, but not interesting. Submission grappling isn't a huge spectator sports anyways, why change stuff to appear to normies, who have no clue what's going on?
Helena keeps trying heal hooks and ankle locks without securing the opponent’s upper leg. Just way, way harder to get a tap that way! She gets the tap the first time she figure four’s the thigh.
Yet she is a champion in several organizations. You aren’t. She trains with Danaher, you don’t. She know more than you do, and has access to more info. Say less keyboard guy. She’d clown you on the mats. You’re giving her advice that Ryan and Danaher wouldn’t? LOL. And… She got the tap. Please send videos to links of you winning titles doing heel hooks the right way. We’ll wait. Forever.
@@jasonrentaponga7805 yep. The whole guard pulling game itself defeats the self defense aspect already, but the leg lock game has people forgetting blunt force trauma is a thing. The whole Gordon Ryan vs Mark Hunt street fight Convo really highlights it imo, Hunt would kill him
Then train somewhere else. I train at a gym where guard pulling is taught to be something you wouldn’t want to do. Takedowns, dominant positions in case of the need for strikes, combat JJ to ensure we use a “MMA guard” style, etc. We absolutely teach leg locks, but you can’t NOT teach them.
You can backstep to 50/50 if they aren’t on their knees belly down finishing the heel. Nadia is well aware of when to risk it. If anything she should’ve turned faster before Helena could settle into her bite on the heel
Do not mix sport on mats and violence on street. I believe on street there are no rules and from that reason many jiu jitsu practitioners will release arsenal of restricted techniques. And I believe there are many attackers who want to be on top so guard skills will be very useful.
@@gc2276 Not actually true. Its is a normal human behavior. In this case just semantics , since could be just a dislike. Health is good and real jiujitsu makes it better.
If you take your leg, from the outside in, above the knee, it should be considered illegal reaping under ADCC rules. Maybe the Enigma Challenge is the enigma of whether it's reaping. 7:56 the triangle really looks above the knee, but she was careful to do it on the side the ref cannot see.
@@softwaredeveloper6791I don’t think there is a reaping rule in ADCC under the professional rule set. There are different rules for beginner, intermediate, and professional. If this was a pro style ruleset then she was fine with her movement
Helena Crevar didn't do anything. Lol She never even had Franklin in a point of submission. What is so spectacular about her? She's not getting anyone to submit. Stop trying to create these great white hopes!
Stoked to see Weird Al reffing!
It’s interesting to me how many people were bored by this in the comments. I’m a brown belt and leg locker, and thought this was a really suspenseful match. The Nadia girl did a great job defending and answering Helena’s attacks. It really came down to Nadia falling one step behind, but she did a great job and her coach was perfect in his coaching.
Great match (to me).
I'm a no-belt grappler, but I still know enough to find it interesting.
I don't think bjj competitions should try to appeal only to people, who have no clue what's going on. It's not a huge spectator sport anyways.
it's boring unless you're into grappling.
@@argynkuketayev4166 nah
my heart was racing
@@DariusD-fg3uj it’s not as bad as Olympic wrestling where the points are awarded in an absolutely mysterious ways and the action stops every 10 seconds
That was great Jiu Jitsu. The smiles and hug at the end before they even stood up is the great thing about Jiu Jitsu....respect and sportsmanship. Great match.
theyre dating
I agree. I thought this was highly technical and fun to watch. Leg locking is an entirely different system and if you aren’t well versed in the systems you can’t see the mathematics and problem solving happening here.
You know Jiu Jitsu has gained in popularity when they can afford Weird Al Yankovic to referee the match 😂
I know it is slow to watch, but I love the way it is so deliberative. Very pure.
Helena Crevar is Pure art. Too see her competing is a gift.
How Helena ain’t sweating bullets is beyond me. I don’t care how breathable her suit is
To the casual observer of the sport this is basically unwatchable
Not only for casual obsevers, even for most practitioners. 😅
Don’t worry stay out of here, Nancy.
@@tonytorres1624I really do love BJJ a lot. But he is still 100% right in his Statement.
The best thing for new people to watch is Quintet imo. Check it out if you haven't already.
I mean if you know what they're doing it's still an interesting game of strategy. It's like saying that chess is unwatchable because there's not enough explosive action lol
Weird AL is a great ref!
lol
I prefer watching a more scrambly wrestly style, but it's interesting seeing a leg lock tactician at work. I mean she took the -1 point and still got the sub, so the strategy worked.
Scrambling wrestling style would get wrecked against either of these girls
@@kalikaputra scrambling can work at the highest levels aka Ruotolos. I mean they're borderline spazzy, but even more controlled people like Mica Galvao or Grace Gundrum chain together different positions and dominate in the transitions
@@gundropmusic true but not everyone is like that and they do walk into stuff,just that they know how to counter or exist a bad position well as their style puts them in these positions.
I can tell right at 8:11 who the family of the opponent was... the only people in the room not clapping at the end.
Helena, obviously you have lots of talent well done!
Helena's outfit reminds me of Samantha "Valkyrie" Valkenhaus. I don't know if Helena ever saw any of Samantha's matches and took note of the outfit, but it would have been neat if her outfit drew inspiration from Samantha.
Is there video on UA-cam of her submitting someone anywhere above the knee ? Does she know there is a neck and couple of arms attached to the body?
ua-cam.com/video/ZiwapN-qo7M/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/1Eh8nVmLmtk/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/IsFUrt7ZjCk/v-deo.htmlsi=vX1B9pjYH3YdG9o8&t=237
ua-cam.com/video/IsFUrt7ZjCk/v-deo.htmlsi=p7nAND330dzpSuFk&t=354
ua-cam.com/video/GlcEmuStq0E/v-deo.html
Great match. Crevar kept on the full offensive, and Frankland for long periods actually defended and counter very well for much of the match.
Skills for both are way past mine. Excellent, schooled efforts.
Great No-Gi Grappling Match Ladies!
Helena is a beast. Nice entry and heel hook finish
Great match
She has the same walk as Gordon Ryan.
And the same face as Danaher
Steroids and complete unlikeability?
@@crankskinatra6038 love child for sure !!
@@JG-uw3ch she has an annoying persona , agree.
@@BM-of6dg She is 16 years old athlete who beats ADCC veterans- champions, stop judging everyone. How pathetic and pessimist must be you guys to criticise a young prodigy. Respect her hard work and shut the f.. up.
Jiu Jitsu is so nice. No one takes any damage.
Depende com quem vc luta😅
"guard pulling is a negative" Helena immediately pulls guard. Love her jiu jitsu tho, not hating. she is consistent.
There should be some rulesets about hair. In a bun or something more practical than a pony tail 😊 awesome match! Congratz
At the end of the day, that's her problème. Just like dudes with big beard will know they will get that shit tugged at occasionnally. You ever seen rugby players with long hair? No one cares.
@@MateiLive rugby players? Is that the ones without a helmet, sprinting at each other, colliding and sometimes kicks a ball for a distance?
Not American football, nr1 head injury sport?
The beard is just irritating. And it feels gross getting stuck in it with your fingers.
Volleyball have rules set around hair.
Matches has been lost just because of hair.
But yeah, you are right. Better looking cute than practical..
I didn't understand the point you were trying to make with that rugby/American football comparison. I brought it up as an example because it's another contact sport where players with longer hair exist (men or women) and it never stopped them from playing.
When you're getting pressured, pinned, grabbed, it's some hair that will bother you that much. Whether it's from your head or some else's. Don't you agree?
@@MateiLive
I was trying to make the destinction between wearing a helmet or not with long hair underneath.
You can easily get distracted if your hair is getting pinned to floor or pulled. Unnecessary distraction.
If an American football player runs through all the way to the end line and his/her hair crosses the line it accounts as a bodypart.
A positive few inches.
In volleyball if even a single hair touches the net it counts as a loss in that point.
My point is just put your hair up in a bun or something practical.
I spy a wild Nicky Rod @ 7:02
Maybe there's something I'm missing. But if Helena had kept Nadia's foot glued to her chest during toe holds, couldn't she have applied a better torque and submit Nadia there and then?
flexible
No Gi is the real jiu jitsu ❤
you really think she doesn't know the basics, you really think she doesn't know how to put a choke hold, apply an armbar, are you seriously thinking that? Why doesn't anyone go there and do the basics and beat her? you don't understand that the fight is like this because the level is so high that the game changes but nothing would work if she didn't know the basics very well
altísimo nivel de las dos minas
Damn Helena 🔥
Helena🤩
guard pulling gives a negative point, immediately pulls guard.
As lutas no estrangeiro são silenciosas assim? Aqui no Brasil é uma gritaria uma loucura kkkkk
Enigma TV how can we get on a card?
Awesome Jiu-Jitsu
Another leg lock snooze fest.
No-Gi is becoming pathetic with these "only-leg-lock" players...no wrestling, no explosiveness just boring roll hunting heel hooks. Awful.
How is that more boring than everyone trying to wrestle up?
If I see two wrestlers that are trying to throw each other for 10 minutes that is real boring. Just consider one thing it is almost impossible to submit someone standing up.
We are not talkin about "only wrestling" or somethin like that here. There is a whole upper body to attack and lock. Yet we only see heel hooks and ass dragging.
@@gc2276
Pajama party with consequences.
What's the weight limit? Helena looks big..
To the casual observer, boring. To us practitioners, loved watching their calm and calculating moves during the match.
it's boring because despite overwhelming advantage in strength it took so long her to win
@@argynkuketayev4166 Nadia appears to have the strength adv
why kimura feet, feet no broken ? i see a lot kimura feet no tap, no broken
Somewhere in the world a Gracie cries every time someone gets heel hooked.
Congratulations Helena Crevar!
Wow, you finally found something new to say other than "Great No-Gi Grappling Match Ladies!"
@@SankakuArts Why is that a good thing or a bad thing
@@SankakuArtsI thought I was the only person who noticed that😂
Brabissima
With Weird Al Yankovich as the referee...
So, no throat kicks in this sport?
Helena is the REAL life "Spiderwoman.
Helena is a alien
She has to be Danaher's daughter. They look so similiar
B Team in nadias corner?
she was there last week
Crevar is a prodigy and his clothes are really cool.
lol i dont like the tough guy look she has when she walks around.....ur just bjj dude calm down.
i really hope these ppl have good health insurance
think there should be more rounds and less sideline coaching.
Gentlemen
They really need to revise the rule books to include a STFU section (no coaching) while they're are battling, if they're pros then nobody needs to be coaching them and it's also fucking annoying
Bizare
Had to stop watching cuz that clock in bg
Wtf am I watching? It’s funnier watching the grass growing
Has long as you know this isnt martial arts its just grappling.
Leg game is effective but total shite to watch
Yea this wasn’t intense in the slightest
@@2130dar
Two guys grinding their faces together is intense, but not interesting.
Submission grappling isn't a huge spectator sports anyways, why change stuff to appear to normies, who have no clue what's going on?
@@MrCmon113 Because more "normies" is more money for everyone involved. Room temperature IQ take 😂.
@@iBussTooQuick there are many people online today watching so no need for expensive big spaces and less farts in closed space.
I can stand constant leg locking lol
Weird Al is the ref?
Hair pulling should be allowed. Fawk style points.
Then everyone would shave their heads. Or if you make a minimum length of hair mandatory, people without hair couldn't compete.
I really do not like what Jiu jitsu is becoming.
And she looks transgender too. That's male vs female. Not fair.
she's a kid. have some class.@@MissCamilaOliveira
Yes, gorgeous women with excellent talent and willpower. So hard to watch. Give me a break, good sir. This is a gift.
Git gud.
I don't have a f'n clue what they were doing and how the match ended.
that is beauty of Jiu Jitsu no need for unnecessary moves or jumps or strange voices or screams. Silent and deadly
Mismatch from the start . This is no sport simple rolling around and grabbing.
Helena keeps trying heal hooks and ankle locks without securing the opponent’s upper leg. Just way, way harder to get a tap that way! She gets the tap the first time she figure four’s the thigh.
The system is almost entirely attack one leg to finish the other, so she’s no doubt chasing reactions to allow locks down the line
Yet she is a champion in several organizations. You aren’t. She trains with Danaher, you don’t. She know more than you do, and has access to more info. Say less keyboard guy. She’d clown you on the mats. You’re giving her advice that Ryan and Danaher wouldn’t? LOL. And… She got the tap. Please send videos to links of you winning titles doing heel hooks the right way. We’ll wait. Forever.
@@michaelstrong4823
Couldn't have said it any better.
@@michaelstrong4823Thank you for your input. Good points.
Everyday in jiujitsu we stray further from the realities of combat violence
Bc of the leg game or what?
@@jasonrentaponga7805 yep. The whole guard pulling game itself defeats the self defense aspect already, but the leg lock game has people forgetting blunt force trauma is a thing. The whole Gordon Ryan vs Mark Hunt street fight Convo really highlights it imo, Hunt would kill him
Everyday in Soccer we stray further from the reality of me picking up the ball and running into the goal!
@@tommygunn2782 fair point, I guess I'm just being over sensitive to certain grapplers being overconfident
Then train somewhere else. I train at a gym where guard pulling is taught to be something you wouldn’t want to do. Takedowns, dominant positions in case of the need for strikes, combat JJ to ensure we use a “MMA guard” style, etc. We absolutely teach leg locks, but you can’t NOT teach them.
Lol somehow ankle and foot related stuff don't work on girls.
Pigtails joi
relentless
They wear pajamas now?
Imagine being submitted by a woman in a onesie. Quite hilarious to think about.😊
look like anime cosplay girl 😀😃😄😁😆😅🤣
Bjj is too sportive now. Nice rolling, but it won’t work in a fight. Kinda like kata now. I’ve moved on to Catch Wrestling.
why are you wearing pajamas wtf
Culting out
this kid is always pulling guard bruhh!!!
She turned the wrong way on that backside 50/50
time mark?
@@luiscruz5556 8:06 crevar was cranking right while the other girl turned to the left. That’s how bj penn tore his knee fighting Ryan hall
exactly.
You can backstep to 50/50 if they aren’t on their knees belly down finishing the heel. Nadia is well aware of when to risk it.
If anything she should’ve turned faster before Helena could settle into her bite on the heel
able to fight with pajamas
LOL Girl in pajamas will get destroyed if she pulls someone into guard on the street. Why do they teach kids this stuff?
Do not mix sport on mats and violence on street. I believe on street there are no rules and from that reason many jiu jitsu practitioners will release arsenal of restricted techniques. And I believe there are many attackers who want to be on top so guard skills will be very useful.
The end of jiujitsu as we know it
Один слем и до свидания)))
this sport is already weird with men, but wit women its completely useless, trying to brake each others ankles, to flexible
Because it is boring. Also i hate her vibe and energy
any type of hate is bad for your health specially mental health.
@@gc2276 Not actually true. Its is a normal human behavior. In this case just semantics , since could be just a dislike.
Health is good and real jiujitsu makes it better.
Is this lesbian?
Without watching I know Helena wins because it’s Austin Texas match making
Boring....
Almost looked like a reap on that leg
If you take your leg, from the outside in, above the knee, it should be considered illegal reaping under ADCC rules. Maybe the Enigma Challenge is the enigma of whether it's reaping. 7:56 the triangle really looks above the knee, but she was careful to do it on the side the ref cannot see.
@@softwaredeveloper6791I don’t think there is a reaping rule in ADCC under the professional rule set. There are different rules for beginner, intermediate, and professional. If this was a pro style ruleset then she was fine with her movement
It's just different when people are punching you, or poking your eyes, other than that it's great JJ.
Can’t do any of that laying on your back getting punched
😴😴😴😴😴😴
They would do better in the kitchen
Is she transgender? Is that even fair?
Helena Crevar didn't do anything. Lol
She never even had Franklin in a point of submission. What is so spectacular about her? She's not getting anyone to submit. Stop trying to create these great white hopes!
WTF is this?
Just kiss her already!
Looks crap lol I'll stick with Gracie jiu jitsu and vale tudo
extremely boring and slow