Ulalek, Fused Atrocity: EDH Deck Tech (High Power) // Modern Horizons 3
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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Minor error on Conduit of Ruin: Cast trigger won't really have an effect because you'll search with the first and put it on top of your library and do it over again. So you'll only really use that cast trigger once. But making creature spells cost 4 less with both on the battlefield is huge for Eldrazi.
Does Emrakul the Promised end suffer from a similar issue and you only get one opponent's turn?
@irvinyeager2958 no it doesnt. You copy it twice messing with two opponents turns. They will get an extra turn following that. Just depends on which one you target first.
I guess it’s worth mentioning Emrakul, the World Anew wouldn’t work since you’d have to copy the Emrakul as well and once one of them dies from legend rule, all your creatures die
Don't copy the creature, just the trigger by flashing in another eldrazi@@andrewmorante2773
Salt comes from explaining the stack interaction to the table
Yes🤣🤣
I'm glad they're giving the eldrazi some more love. Would love to see a storyline out of Ulalek and if it was a pre - or post fusion of Ulamog and Kozilek.
Absolutely!
I got the deck and in the manual it explains that Ulalek is what happens when two titans "reach into the pool" from the same location in The Blind Eternities. It only appeared once on a unknown plain that was consumed a long time ago, so it's a past manifestation.
6:35 - Do not copy Emrakul. I repeat do not copy Emrakul! You will just boardwipe yourself and another 2 players where you could have instead gotten a 12/12 flyer + one of their boards. It being legendary makes it quite a bit worse in this case.
Play demonic tutor and mirror box
Loved this video! Did not expect the sound effects from the eldrazi!
Tried to make it a lil more special!
Did not think to do flash speed things to copy extra things on the stack. This is nuts
Yeah your right it is nuts lol
Awesome Deck Teck! I've been a fan of the Eldrazi ever since their arrival and have been waiting for a (5) color option for a while and Ulalek hits it out of the park! I'm really enjoying playing the Ulalek Precon currently, first game I was 2nd due to a miss-play by me and the 2nd was a smashing late-game win! Now I have some ideas on what I would like to do as far as upgrading! Keep the great content coming!
Glad to help! Thank you, i appreciate it!
Looking at the decks for this online and seeing how few add haste enablers, I just know I’m gonna need to explain the stack a lot to people.
Please explain it to me as well. I have this deck on preorder and I'm not very knowledgeable about the stack yet.
When you cast a spell it goes on the stack. Then all triggers on cast also go on the stack so lets say that now you have the creature and the cast trigger on the stack.
Now you pay 2 to copy them.
You add three more copies of the triggers on the stack so you then reaolve them in order based on which thing landed on the stavk last. Resolve that, then the next one then the next etc.
This is all in instant speed so they would resolve before you'd be able to cast another creature, but if the had flash you could lets say cast another eldeazi and it goes on the stack, add another trigger and then pay two if you have it.
Now you copy ALL the things on the stack AGAIN and youd essentially get 4 of the initial creature, 4 of the initial cards on cast effects and double the second cards.
Please note legend rule applies here. So when the extras come in those rules apply and youd have to sac the creatures.
Hope that wasnt too confusing an explanation.
Sorry you add not three but copies of the triggers already on the stack.
Thing is the second cast copies the copies.
@@Butmunch666 i see, thank you for the explanation! Why is haste importent then (original comment)? Or did they just mean flash?
Also today I played my first game with this deck and my commander was removed from tge board before I could cast anything 3 times in a row so I never even got to use the ability lol. Ended up winning without it.
@@flyingby3703 Haste is not important here, its the flash. Haste is important mostly for just killing someone with the massive bruiser you cast that turn and possibly trigger annihilator and similar effects-
The thing is the stack resolves at instant speed. You can only stack on top of it with instant speed casts or abilities you trigger from cards since those are all instant speed and you then šut those on the stack.
Imagine a pile of cards you're making, you make the bottom layer of the pile when you cast, when you do the cast trigger resolves and puts a fictitious card that states the effect on top of the pile. You can then, lets say use the commander ability and copy the cards already on the pile and stack those on top but you can also after that add more stuff to the pile, but to do it you need to use instant speed cards. So casting an eldrazi as an instant adds to the pile, which can help you trigger the doubling effect.
This commander with Ulamog's Dredsire = a total nightmare, and it comes in the precon. Kicking out 2x 10/10 Eldrazi
Creatures per turn is just...
You might as well throw Animar in there and get an infinite combo out of these cards cloudstone.
If you trigger Ulalek with Echoes of Eternity, you will either get 1, 2, or 3 additional copies of the Eldrazi spell plus the same number of cast triggers in most cases.
Some other good cards to consider: Imoti, Celebrant of Bounty - a cheap card that gives 6+ mana cards cascade.
Jodah, The Unifier - lets you play more legendary Eldrazi for free, and buffs them.
Basalt Monolith - can go infinite, and allow you to infinitely make copies of everything.
Mirror Box - lets you keep the copies of your legendary eldrazi, and buffs them.
Impact Tremors - deals one damage to each opponent whenever a creature enters you field. Could probably win the game using just this and your commander.
Fiery Emancipation - triple combat damage from big Eldrazi.
The Great Henge - good card draw, healing, mana, etc.
Ulalek + Basalt Monolith + Impact Tremors would be a game winning infinite combo.
Don't forget protection for Ulalek. The various equipments would work well. Preferably something that gives him hexproof.
Good options here! I like them! 👍
How does basalt go infinite with Ulalek when it clearly stated that mana abilities can't be copied
@@riznix9237You can copy the untap effect, but I dont see an infinite mana combo there since Ulalek would just copy it once...Seems like you'd need something else?
@@riznix9237 infinite mana - basalt monolith + forsaken monument. Tap for 4, untap for 3
I have been looking forward to this deck since it was announced
Me too! Glad to see it in its full glory!
First time playing this deck I got jumped but it was so fun.
My buddy constantly saying what the f 😂😂 whenever I do something
Emrakul, the world anew is kinda bad with ulalek unless you have mirror box because you'll make a token copy that gets sacrificed to legend rule and boardwipes yourself
My favorite is Ulamog, I don’t have the new one but I do have the Ceaseless Hunger and man I love it. I really want a copy of the new ones.
Note that if you can get more then one spell on of the stack you also get a copy the original Ulalek trigger. I will not go into detail but you can do insane stuff. Getting 8 or 16 copies of 6 drop is much easier then you think (Kozilek’s command is the main culprint being an insane mana generator and an Eldrazi instant).
I'm dumb please elaborate 🥲 I can't see how that works.
@andrewhawkinson3410 basically you cast an eldrazi spell, then ulalek's trigger goes on the stack.
You respond to that trigger with something like kozilek's command (x=10 because why not), which IS an eldrazi spell, thus creating another ulaek trigger. You pay the 2 colorless, copying the kozilek's command, ulalek trigger, and initial eldrazi+ trigger that you cast.
Let the two x=10 commands resolve and get 20 scions + whatever else you pick. Now you can pay for the most recent ulalek trigger, which again will copy the initial ulalek trigger. Rinse and repeat.
Hope this helped.
@@aquacode2I don't think you can copy ulaleks ability itself like that.
@@riznix9237it’s not a mana ability, it’s a triggered ability (when you cast an eldrazi spell), so I thought you can?
@@lundibix2230 no, basalts tap or untap skill are not triggered abilities.
I'm really looking forward to getting this deck
Me too😎🤙
Kozilek the great distortion is still the best “eldrazi” commander I think, he refills your hand then is hard to remove with his counterspell ability
Kozilek is a great one. I agree. Having access to all 5 colors is hard to beat, though.
Nah, access to all 5 colors trumps what Kozelik can bring. He's great in the 99 though. But having access to ramp, white removal ALL the tutors- plus copying all of your cards on the stack if you have 2 extra mana to hard to beat.
@@ML-yn9yu that’s the funny thing about actual colorless decks, it ramps hard af already, and I like not having to invest mana into him to copy spells, or play protection/evasion
@@glubgawd7393 Oh I have a Zhulodok deck. And the counterspell aspect is cool, but also so situational, I found menace the more useful aspect. Hand refill is great tho
If you're playing a pure eldrazi deck, doubling abilities and having access to other colors is going to be way better.
There's no story canon because this is basically a What if? set. We don't know if they combine in the actual timeline until they reference it somewhere else
This deck it have the best potential because 5 colors. 😊
Absolutely! Has everything in its arsenal!
This such a fun deck tech it is tempting to make a colourless deck
That is something I do enjoy with ulalek, you can play pretty much amy color combo or no color for your deck. Has so much options
More ways to abuse flash speed. Seed born muse + any card that lets you draw whenever you play a creature or a big creature. you will get 4 turns when your opponents only have 1
Trueeee!
out of the box, I used this deck to smash every deck my friends have - being able to double every permanent every turn with the commander trigger ability - is insane - waiting for it to get banned
Are you doubling every permanent on the board every turn? Cuz that’s not how it works
@@northernkiwi oh.......uh oh.....please teach me how it works xD
@@TheAVProductions you only double the spells on the stack, so only the things you cast before you pay the 2
Can someone help with clarification - Let's say Ulalek is on the field, and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger. In order to get a second a trigger from Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger's attack trigger exiling 20 cards of an opponents library, I can only double this effect by flashing in an Eldrazi spell and paying the 2 colorless specific mana from Ulalek, while in combat declare attackers step with Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger as he is attacking correct? I hope my wording made sense.
Basically what I'm saying is if I cast an Eldrazi spell at sorcery speed during my first main phase, and pay the 2 colorless with Ulamek to copy, while Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger is sitting there I won't get to copy Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger's triggered ability because it does need to be attacking for it to trigger...
Whatever trigger is on the stack, if you cast an eldrazi spell, you can copy everything on the stack, including the attack trigger of ulamog, to double exiling cards. The same will be applied to the annialator.
I was hoping it was an Azlask deck but still awesome
I do have an azlask deck from the previous day👌
I run a food chain combo with eternal scourge for “Flavor” and then just dump my hand
I dig it👌😎
I pretty sure it doesn't copy the cast trigger. You cast it by paying its CMC. Then it copy's the spell, turning it into a token. So technically your not "creating" a token either. It just copy's what's on the stack. But you have to cast the eldrazi spell in order to copy everything on the stack.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what my friends and I made it out to be. I usually play veyran voice of duality, and if your copying spells it doesn't give an additional cast trigger. Because you cast it once, then copy it.
"copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies."cast triggers are on the stack, and you can copy them because ulaleks ability will trigger last and you pay into that colorless cost to copy all triggered, activated and spells on the stack. You're creating a token copy of that eldrazi you copied because you're copying all spells on the stack including creatures
@@jayfletcher8936 that's not correct. It copies everything on the stack, that includes the cast trigger.
But if you copy Emrakhul the second one leave the battlefield for the legendary rule and you need to sacrifice everything right?
Yeahhhh good point, probably not best to copy Emmy
Dang, so that means new emrakul doesn't really play well with echoes of eternity...
It will still work if you just counter one of the emrakul's
@@TheAceOfSpades8877 I just added mirror box and mirror gallery. Not sure why I said mirage mirror first lol.
So if you fast Zhulodok, copy it and it's abilities, you end up cascading 8 times?
You cast something with 7 cmc or higher. That card will have cascade bc of zhulodok. The cards that gain cascade will double if you pay into that ability
I"m having a hard time convincing myself to swap from Zhulodok to Ulalek :( I want to be cause there's so much potential but i'm having a really hard time doing it.
It's a tough choice!
I would recommend it, Im doing it and making it a true eldrazi deck not artifact/Eldrazi. you get access to green ramp, white removal. Not to mention all the tutors to search out the deck faster. Zhulodok is great in the 99,
@@ML-yn9yu I guess my main issue is that to really maximize this guy you have to play alot of stuff at instant speed, and that means relying on the flash style colorless cards (Like Cicada and Liberator), and while those are great cards, i don't want to feel like i'm gimping myself the games those aren't in play).
Do you have a list of what you're considering running?
maybe add basalt monolith since you also run forsaken monument for an easy inf colorless mana?
Good point!
Also i think kinnan bonder prodigy is wonderfull adition, also goes inf with basalth monoltih, and it als doubles the amount of mana you get from treasure, making it far easier to do the whole dockside loop
But i have to say, the base of this deck is marvelous, can't wait to play it!
Yep, very true, those could be powerful! Kinnan + Basalt = All creatures on your side of the battlefield
Yea….zhulodok isn’t so cheap anymore bro went from 8 bucks to 25😬
Sheeeesh!!!!
It close to 60 bucks now!
Why no Echoes of Eternity? It is completely busted with Ulalek.
I just felt like it was a winmore card
Is there a link for the deck? I don’t think I’m seeing it
In the description 👍
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but when you copy a spell with ulalek, you won't get an other cast trigger from the card, right? And a cast ability isn't a triggered or activated ability, so most of the stuff with the eldrazi you talk about in the beginning, doesn't work like that?
A triggered ability uses the words "when" "whenever" or "at" so I think "when you cast" is a triggered ability.
I wouldn't put it past them to release stuff like this using the established language for a specific ability then say "oh, well ... no why would you think that"
You will get an extra cast trigger on the stack because you're copying all spells, and triggered abilities on the stack
great deck profile... only sad that it would cost me about 1400 fucking bucks?! Who has the money to build this?!
Proxies are always a good start. Always recommend doing that.
@@PubStompMTG so the entire deck would be proxies? I'm just baffled like... who is this deck even for?
@@dudemetslagroom8065 no? Proxy the cards you want. Apparently its for the people watching this
hearing you talk about infinite mana, I wonder why basalt monolith isnt in the list? I get that it's infinite colourless but would it not be an include?
Basalt monolith won't get us to recast our eldrazi over and over again. It only gets infinite mana.
@@PubStompMTG what is Basalt monolith? I don't see it in the deck.
(I could also be not looking close enough)
Regarding duplicating Conduit of Ruin - would you actually be able to Tutor two Eldrazi? Wouldn't one have to resolve first before the other? So you'd fetch an Eldrazi, shuffle then put it on top of your library. Then you'd fetch another Eldrazi, shuffle your library (thus shuffling the previously tutored Eldrazi back into your deck), then put the 2nd fetched Eldrazi on top?
No i completely forgot it goes to the top of the library
Wheres the decklist?
In the description
So if I have this as a commander do I have to tap for color bring it out or no since it's colorless and devoid?
It's a hybrid cost. So you can choose to tap for either color or colorless to cast ulalek in any combination.
@PubStompMTG thank iam kinda new to all of it so I'm learning.
So no sakashima legend rule going bye bye
Very true🤙
I guess Ulamog and Kozilek decided to settle down…
Essayer de mettre spreading plague dans le deck
Not a bad way to spend 2,200. Lol
Proxies lol
First
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I put fist of suns and joda archmage eternal in there for quicker cast ability.
True!!!! Also got Morphon too for that extra support!
There should make a Eldrazi planeswalker
That would have been interesting