$130 for the gimbals alone?! Yup. RadioMaster AG01 all metal CNC gimbals for TX16S
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
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-- TABLE OF CONTENTS --
0:00 - Intro and commercial disclaimer
2:16 - All metal construction with ball bearings
4:04 - Gimbals are adjustable from the front plate without opening the radio
6:32 - How to remove the old gimbals
8:26 - Just how bad is the original gimbal compared to the AG01?
9:47 - Important: before you start installing!
10:49 - Finish installing the AG01 gimbal
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16:13 - Run radio gimbal calibration routine
17:23 - Compare jitter on the AG01 vs. the old gimbals
Why you should turn off OpenTX ADC filter: • OpenTX ADC filter is m...
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18:22 - Conclusion: should you buy it?
Disclaimer: the LEDs are NOT part of the gimbal and are a separate accessory. Correction: the accessory springs are WEAKER than the stock ones, not STRONGER -- I got that wrong.
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Any idea if they will fit the jumper T18 pro?
Got LEDs on my but they are the Banggood ones . These are what I would get now if I were to get some . They plug in and you don’t need clear tape 😂😂
Oh I need these gimbals because my gimbals are goofy ,my throttle movement does that exact same thing
Holy shite, 79.99 each, or 129.99 a set. They seem really nice and if they fit the QX-7 or the Jumper T-6 I would probably get them. I think I paid 29.99 each for hall gimbals for the QX7, but not that quality.
Pro tip; if you still have your Radiomaster TX16s foam case it comes in, you can flip your radio upside down in it and work on the back without your nice new gimbals rubbing and pushing into the table.
Pillow works nicely as well. A bonus to using a pillow is that it will often catch random screws that will inevitably be dropped.
I know there must be something I can do with the foam case and I kept it ever since I unboxed. Thanks for the sharing!
Good tip, thanks for that.
Wow great idea , that is always a concern of mine
I have always just used my wife stomach. She's ok with it as long as its not a longer project.
"Mode 2 like Jesus intended." haha someone had to say it.
Blunty looks more like Jesus but does not flu mode2.
nah im still rockin mode 4 :)
@@Just4FunRC
Foot pedals for throttle 4 life!!!
@@jonathanwilliams1644 so how many drones per day do you crash? :)
Pelvic thrust for throttle.
Love this guy really! He just does not make these reviews boring at all. Thanks dude!
This transmitter now just needs one thing to be perfect: a 5-in-1 ELRS internal module.
Please make it happen RadioMaster!
i hope this will never happen
@@sigterm15 why lmao?
The 4 in 1 with a ranger is the best
I love Joshua B. He cracks me up with his witty banter, and he knows what he's talking about; thanks for doing what you do, sir. Keep up the great work!
Just got mine. The last thing that I have been missing from my Taranis X9D was that heavier solid stick feel. The sound/feel when you let the sticks snap back. Very nice.
I got tired of this on my 1st gen T16 so I put M9r gimbals in it. The amount of work it required was absolutely insane, glad to see there's a much better option now, even if it is really pricey
JB, man,, you say so much without saying a word. You keep me laughing with your expressions. That also keeps me tuned in. Don't change a thing. Thanks again for making me learn something today!
What he said 👆👆👆👆
@@MustangPilot1 👍
Joshua, if you are not a gimbal snob, you just made me one :) Placed my order on the affiliate link listed. Thanks for the great video.
That was something I had to-do with my first radio, the IR8M! Not the best radio, but it served its purpose.
The gimbals were "loose" around the middle, I glued them onto the pot shaft with some nailpolish and all the jittery sloppiness went away!
Love my TX16S. Wish mine drifted though. Feeling left out. Seriously though - never noticed any drift flying quads almost every day since I got the Tx. Love that touch - flying with EdgeTX.
Hear about drift all the time and honestly haven’t seen or felt it drift even from warm home where it was calibrated into the colder 45 outside.
Pretty impressive gimbals indeed, Joshua! 😮
Awesome review!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks alot for making these videos. you are awesome Keep up the good work. i wish I could understand how to make my TX16S ready for ELRS but it seems complicated and not sure. I ordered the new gimbals for my radiomaster and will watch your video to install. again thanks and keep up the great videos dude. God Bless.
im so glad i got mine, my pretty new tx16s right gimbal was acting weird pretty early on.
if i put pressure on the stick just by having my thumb on it, it wil slightly pitch forward, it does that upto 9% depend how hard i push the stick wile flying.
now its all smooth and i can just really hard handle the stick and only get the output i give currenty
I know it's expensive but I love this hobby. thr evolving technology and the things that you can tweak and fiddle with or what keep me addicted
Nice video! I love the look and probably the feel, if I could afford them. Mine actually didn't have that flex problem you showed at the beginning of the video, and the bending of the plastic faceplate is made moot, when they are screwed to an aluminum CNC faceplate , which is what my Max, and yours also has. My gimbals actually feel better than my old Jumper T16, so I won't be replacing them ,unless they break. Yours might be the by-product of inconsistencies of production:-)Then, I will be faced by the decision to buy these. If the radio is still in good operable condition, than I would probably pull the trigger. But so far, all is good with my Radiomaster T16S Max, and I love it. Love the fact your doing setup and programming videos on the T16S. Keep up the great work!
The amount of people in the comments that deep down want these gimbals but they are trying justify to themselves why they should not buy them(probably because they can't afford them right now but really want them). Is funny as hell haha. If I had a Radiomaster. I would 100% get them! Gimbals are super important man. Just as important as video tx and rx. As well control link too.
Well said mate- I have Ts16s, I’m getting these coz I need everything edge I can get 😅👍🤝
I thoroughly love my TX16S, but the endpoints being “fluid” is getting worse by the day, now that it’s 6+ months old and has 6 or 8 models programmed into it, which I cycle through multiple times daily.
Wish I could afford these gimbals. Those would be a GREAT upgrade!
i just bought these.
my tx16s is half year old and the right gimbal is weird in the top right.
i can push down on the stick and it changes value of around 5 to 10 and stay there until i slightly pull the stick out.
i screwed down the 2 adjustable metal things in the back and its somehow good now.
but these look verry good and i beleve after seeing this they must feel buttersmooth and solid
I'm sold, great review, thanks JB
I’ve had a Tx16s on the desk for months. And just honestly did not like the feel of the sticks. I do run the r stick on my x9d and love it. This is all the radio needed for me to make the move. Thanks for the review. Product should be here in the next day or so.
That jitter on the yaw is caused by a lack of sheilding from an external tx like crossfire. Radiomaster support legit said "just turn down your tx to 25mw"... Glad these gimbals seem to have better sheilding
When you take a radio apart you should set it in the foam carrier to protect the sticks. I use my Spektrum Tx foam package.
If this were on my old Qx7s that I used for 3 years, this would be a no brainer - it has great gimbals but I could notice some issues and unpleasant feeling with trying to nail a smooth line. Maybe at year 2 or 3 for Radiomaster, I’ll be eyeing these up as a definite way to maintain my radio.
I would just calibrate them properly with no force and solve the issue 🤣 but they look cool though.
Gut dass ich dich ma treffe, in einem deiner letzten Videos hast du super stabilisiertes Gopro Video aber im FPV sieht man das dein Wing über quer rollt. Hast du mal mit höheren D Werten getestet. ff und I haben ja kein Einfluss darauf und P kann man hoch drehen bis er überschwingt, das bringt nicht viel. So bald wieder Wetter ist werd ich da mal rum probieren, mit TPA kann man ja überschwingen vermindern.
@@BBFPV ich arbeite derzeit an einem Video für komplett manuelles Tuning. Aber schreib mal nen Kommentar welches Video du meinst und welche Stelle. Dass ich genau verstehe was du meinst.
@@MarcFPV Find es auf die Schnelle gerade nicht, ich schau dann mal in dein tuning Video.
Correctly calibrating with no force does prevent the channel endpoint from changing. The point is just to demonstrate how much flex the factory gimbal has vs. the metal one.
@@JoshuaBardwell yep agree. Checked on mine and it's the same. But that never bothered me. Not even noticed till now 😅
Hi Joshua, I have the same feeling that obviously it does matter but not as much. Good pilot will fly with Ski sticks same as with superb awesome excellent gimbals.
Simple as this ...
All the best.
Have the TX16s "new color edition", haptic motor mount was broken out of the box. Added the CNC kit and several screw holes were stripped or posts cracked from factory, had to use lots of bigger screws to reassemble. But also anyplace the "grease" had got on the plastic it was was crumbling, like locktite does to PC. Got it working, but because it does not fit my hands have gone back to my X9D+. If you interested I will make you a deal on a very slightly used TX16s, am in North central Florida.
why did you show me this....uuungh...my cousin and i both have heavily modified tx16s radios...he just got the led gimbal mod...now i want this. im regularly adjusting the trims...now i need these. love you joshua.
Blessed is the man who throttles and yaws on his left, and pitches and roles on his right.
Got the Gimbal Set and bevor putting them in I watched your video .....you are funny af JB!!! The "what about Mary" reference has me on the floor laughing!!
Glad to see the metal gimbals fit with the LED spacers. When you first showed the metal ones I was sure they looked thicker than the plastic ones, when I put the LED rings in I noticed the rear of the gimbals was pretty close to the rear cover of the TX.
Umm. Yeah. More about that in the LED video.
@@JoshuaBardwell LED Video? I can't seem to find it in your play list or using search..
So……it’s like a JR or Futaba now, but with open tx? And the hall sensors are included per the quick view I saw in the video? So, to make things more respectable money wise, get the lesser priced version and add the metal gimbals? Gotsta have toothpicks for precision grease applications, qtips for clean up. Or a mini zip tie works super.
I got mine on order and I can't wait to adjust my throttle distance for some reason I could never get full access with my hands on the radio master TX-16S
Would like to see some of this kind for my Tango 2. That would be cool.
Great work JB
This awesome Joshua. 👍thanks
That flex in the throttle at the beginning disappeared on my radiomaster when I installed the optional recess plates that come with the max kits.
Just got my TX16S and yes, the gimbals have screws adjustable from the outside
AG01 V3 is already on aliexpress with the same price as of getfpv. Anyway, it's a set of thruster and self-centered sticks with front adjust screw holes which already appeared on Radiomaster's OEM Eachine remote. They reused the design.
My tx16s gimbals are wearing out. Perfect time for a upgrade
Nice review, as always! I think the „sensual“ thing to do is waiting for the new Radiomaster - let’s call it tx 20 - with built-in elrs 2,4 ghz and 915/865 mhz and these frickin‘ gimbals in the max version ;-). Should be between 300 and 350 bucks and will give the competition a round for their money. I bet it’s gonna come out next spring, maybe even sooner. Peace
Take my money! 😅
@@vuchuong74 and mine 😃👍
Thanks bud I have been thinking about ditching my x9d for something nice and new with elrs built in. I think I’ll wait a little bit I want kinda that zorro or something dope in the x12 size
this is EXACTLLY what I've been waiting for, I fly mode 1 and do quick full stick rolls all the time while my rates are also kinda steep at the end, so when I suddenly lower the throttle to minimum while doing full stick roll(which both happen on the right stick) gimbal flex will effect my roll input so sometimes can't get full 100% of rolling speed, this will fix my problem.
I also noticed that I very rarely get full extension of my gimbals.
pretty much live in the 80% range...
any upgrades like this for Tango / Mamba ?
this would be a nice treat for yourself or upgrade if something goes wrong.
I see what you mean about that little bit of extra 'wiggle'' space when pressing the throttle lower on my T16, but that little anomaly has never been an issue for me, the gimbals on that are perfectly fine for my flying.
At $130 I guess it's for serious racers or anyone who has to have the best no matter what.
If you calibrate gimbals gently you dont have this phenomenton.
@@ansgaryeysymontt7155 Exactly, treat the gimbals well and they won't mess you around.
@@ansgaryeysymontt7155 that never goes away you can never calibrate exactly to how the push reacts at the upper and lower limits
@@MrSabram07 You never use limits of
stick throw...
Great now I need the gimbals to go with my silver aluminum cnc kit I'm about to install 😬🤔
Hey guys a Toothpick works great for putting some grease on that plastic piece instead of a q-tip and I think THATS a piece of silicon over the plastic piece there but I put a little lube on my stock gimbles
I just tested the gimbals in my TX16S (carbon fiber faceplate version) and I get no flex at all. They also don't jitter and I have the ADC filter off. I did just get it a few months ago so maybe that's why?. Running EdgeTX on it. I do really want these gimbals. Sucks they cost more than I paid for the radio but I'm gonna get them. Probably going to have to wait until next year though with Xmas coming up and hopefully getting my Steamdeck soon, my budget for hobbies is tight.
The JB transformation continues. Blue workbench & now blue gimbals.
I don’t even have this radio but my my aren’t these sweet.
Winter is coming!..... Going to freeze my pinchers with all metal. but definite getting those :D
I'm getting some asap! Question will they fit in my jumper t18 pro as well?
i'm a big fan of the m9 short version ( less up and down throw on the trottle) for my X9d.
Short one on the left and normal on the right (mode2...as jesus intended).
So yeah this ajustable gimball seem good for me if i switch to TX16S ( or buy the eachine version...)
kiss from France jb
I can confirm as of March 2022 if you buy the 199.99 dollar v3 hall tx16s it has the front adjustments on the V3 halls. However I still got these gimbals and they are unbelievable
Super informative! Would have loved an actual flight review.
Oh my GOD!!! The gimbals on a $1200 radio are better than the gimbals on a $180 radio?? :D They dang well better be!
I had noticed the flex on the gimbals of my TX-16s. To compensate, I am VERY careful when I do a calibration and have even gone into Companion and tweaked the calibration data to guarantee a +100 & -100 resting position with no contact with the stick. Other than this, the original gimbals are very good. I can't say that I have noticed any effect from this flex (or other minor flaws of the gimbals) in flight. Still... I am now very tempted by these new gimbals. I really wondered about these gimbals when I firs saw them a few days ago and am glad/unhappy to have seen this video demonstrating their differences. Yes, I am somewhat of a gimbal snob even if I may not have the skill level to truly take advantage of the better hardware.
I have a jumper T12 Pro with hall effect gimbals and love the feel. My T8SG also has the hall effect gimbals. They are rock solid with no flutter or bounce!
That’s surprising. I’ve had 3 different T12s and 5 different T8SG radios over the years and they all had stick jitter when you check BF receiver tab. Radio feels ok but hard to get consistency. Have you tried other radios? You may find other hall effect gimbals are noticeably better at similar cost.
@@m2kfpv449 When I set the sub trim in mine and go to the receiver tab, they center at 1500 and do not flutter like the old mechanical gimbals did on say a Flysky FS-I6 radio I guess what works for some!
@@m2kfpv449 I do wonder if you had problems with them, why so many? I am not a gimbal snob!
Jumper T8SG/T12 have a great size and switch layout imo, but even after adjustment, calibrating, setting endpoints and subtrim, the gimbals frequently go out of calibration. Again, not a bad radio but those gimbals are not consistent in my experience.
We need that shirt to be made again!
Did you ever grease your gimbals? I have jumper tx12, and from the factory one of the gimbals even squeaked a little bit, I used lithium grease and it bece very smooth. Can't do anything with flex, just don't push it too far, but they are buttery smooth now
Mind seeing if there is a way to pull off the aluminum face plate? We have these nice looking CNC color plates and they just make us toss them away! I want to see about pulling off the plate and anodizing it purple to match things up again
I'm not going to do it just to find out, but I think you could nearly completely disassemble the gimbal. It is all screws holding it together as far as I can tell.
I always set the ratching a Little Bit in thad i can feel a little bit for an haptic feedback how much throttle i Give from the way but the tension i make with the other spring
thanks share, but could AG01 replace gimbals of jumper T16 pro Hall version?
I have been having problems with my radio since I purchased it. My throttle is doing the same thing. But I have a FRSKY Xlite radio. I just wonder if it would work. Thanks again for the update.
I’ve found X-lite can be weird about those gimbal adjustment screws in the back. I backed mine all the way out and then put back in making sure to use the correct length adjustment screw per FRSKY manual. Recalibrate and have been good for months now.
At 15:14, can't you put softer springs to solve that? I have a t18 and it makes the same, a lot more than my old qx7. I wonder if I change the springs it would be softer...
Hi Joshua!
I have a problem with my quad, I can't use it with a pwm frequency lower than 32Khz. For example, if I use 24Khz, the quad starts to do yaw twitches. I'm not sure what could be causing this problem. All started when I had a Hglrc F722 Fc with a Hglrc Forward 60A 4 in 1 esc on the quad, but the twitches were in the yaw and pitch axis. Later, I decided to change the flight controller, because I thought it could be a bad gyro problem, I installed a Hobbywing xrotor f7 Fc, but the problem didn't go away.
I'm not sure if I have bad luck with bad gyros or if the esc could be causing it. The flight controller is soft mounted and the esc has a 1000uF capacitor, the build is clean, the frame doesn't have any cracks, it's a new build.
I saw a video from FlightOne where they talk about yaw twitches and they said that the esc could be causing the problem. The quad is flyable with 32Khz and above, but the motors get hot.
If I change the esc will the problem solve?
Heard that thermal shift was the problem with centering the sticks. Does this solve that problem?
My 4yr old taranis with frsky hall gimballs are still 💯%
Hi Joshua I brought ts16se recently now I’m facing problem of key stuck and suddenly pitch trim reach to its extreme position. Can’t figure out exact reason. Radiomaster not responding properly for the troubleshooting.
OMG...just the color scheme alone is worth the buy
To be clear, the LEDs are a separate accessory and are not part of the gimbal.
@@JoshuaBardwell booo...just let me know when you sell yours
Hi Joshua ! I didn't get if u can manage to get ag01 + led work toghether without any problems of traveling stick..
I just got the tx16s mk2 jb edition.
I've fully limited the travel or throw of the gimbals using the front adjustment screws but it's still too much for me.
Can I further limit the travel from the inside of the radio/back of the gimbal?
If you replace the sticks with a thinner base there won't be any "wiggle" input, what actually happens is the stick knob is hitting the gimbal frame.
hey JB, how do the t16s hall gimbals compare to the ones on the taranis x9d se? and do you know if the AG01 gimbals compatible with the taranis?
Got LEDs on my but they are the Banggood ones . These are what I would get now if I were to get some . They plug in and you don’t need clear tape 😂😂
Could you check if they can be made to fit in a X9D? (:
Something about Mary... I LOL'd
Thank you for the review, and that might be a 100 hour present for me.
0:10 I'm sure a calibration would fix that. What happens is that when calibrating, some people force the stick, which leads to that.
I have a new tx16s with rhe same adjustments on the hall gimbals, i was afraid that they didn't send me a radio with hall gimbals 🤣
I have your JB T16s with the light mod. Do the AG01 gimbals work with the light mod now? I remember in another video they didn’t fit.
The Gimbals look really good.
Any chance I can retrofit them into my RadioKing TX18S??. I really want it...please give me advice.
Damnit JB, you make me wanna spend my money.... They look sooooo good.
Great video Josh however I have a question on another topic if you could answer for me please. It's my understanding that the speedy B app is equipped with BL Heli S. So could I use the speedy B app to set up my i-flight f405 bord in the navgull 5 v2 with rpm soothing and all that good stuff???
Yes you could do that.
Any chance this gimbal is interchangeable with the Jumper T16?
I got some of these. But in my case there were no
grease included. It seams that the throttle tension is getting loose . Do i need this grease or some loctite for the screw? Is a litte bit of anoing, that such expensive gimbals getting loose by their own. What would you say?
Would the gymbol travel issue be fixed through the calibration feature of the radio?
@Joshua Are they compatible with Jumper T16 hall series? Thanks
The stock gimbals are pretty good and none of my high end radios where any better. When JR put metal gimbals in there radio they where awesome. I never owned one but flew with one and wow best gimbals period. So I expect these gimbals will to be the same when I get them can't wait. It will technically turn the cheap radio into an expensive radio
do these have those middle gap transitions like all other gimbals when tightened?
The reason why the wires are run underneath the others is so they do not get caught in the gimbals. The throttle/left gimbal should probably be run under the first and second set of cables.
My Scroll wheel has started jumping around…. Do I need a new one? Is metal upgrade better?
does it feels smooth around the center or still some spot exists? thx
If only we could get gimbals like this for the Mambo.
Would that make sense on a DJI radio? The air unit one I mean.
I love mine!!!!
And here I am with the stock Taranis gimbals :D
Bummer, I was there a while back. Got a stimulus check, and bought the Jumper T16, to replace my bricked QX7 Taranis.(this is before I watched videos on how to revive bricked radios:-( Doesn't matter, because there is a noticeable control difference between the two. Now that I Bought a Radiomaster T16S, I could sense a small difference in the gimbals between those two. Stuff just keeps getting better. T16S is the best radio I've used. It was worth the jump to Hall effect gimbals for the control improvement.Hope you'll be able to try it sometime. Happy flying, it's good with Taranis also.
I’ve been waiting for this and I haven’t even upgraded my radio from the Futaba j8 yet. 😎❤️👍
edit: “…as Jesus intended…” 🤣
does anybody know if these would work in the nirvana? ie. digital output hall effect signal
How are these compared to the FrSky Horus gimbals?
I went with the flysky gimbal mod, similar price. I do like how these gimbals are made specific for the tx16s and do not need extra mounting pieces.
@Bradley Witney Yes Sir, I agree.
Love the feel of mine. The red is a nice accent to the color scheme of my radio. ☺️
Joshua, you need longer throttle fingers and skinner screwdrivers, especially the screwdrivers, thay was painful to watch the wrong sized tool being used.
I must be a little weird with the sticks, I reverse the heads so the knurled section is facing the gimbal, and the cone shaped collar is all the way up, to make the sticks as long as possible for a greater length arc for the degrees of movement, for as fine a granularity of control as possible.
Great . I hated the flex on the throttle so much on the t16s. I just bought a jeti ds14. Now this upgrade . Do I keep the jeti or install new gimbles and keep the tx16s
A RadioMaster will never compete with a Jeti for quality.
Damn I want these in my life. My T16S needs some love.