Disclaimer: the LEDs are NOT part of the gimbal and are a separate accessory. Correction: the accessory springs are WEAKER than the stock ones, not STRONGER -- I got that wrong. Get the LED rings for your gimbals at: bit.ly/2Z2n5KG
Holy shite, 79.99 each, or 129.99 a set. They seem really nice and if they fit the QX-7 or the Jumper T-6 I would probably get them. I think I paid 29.99 each for hall gimbals for the QX7, but not that quality.
Pro tip; if you still have your Radiomaster TX16s foam case it comes in, you can flip your radio upside down in it and work on the back without your nice new gimbals rubbing and pushing into the table.
The amount of people in the comments that deep down want these gimbals but they are trying justify to themselves why they should not buy them(probably because they can't afford them right now but really want them). Is funny as hell haha. If I had a Radiomaster. I would 100% get them! Gimbals are super important man. Just as important as video tx and rx. As well control link too.
I thoroughly love my TX16S, but the endpoints being “fluid” is getting worse by the day, now that it’s 6+ months old and has 6 or 8 models programmed into it, which I cycle through multiple times daily. Wish I could afford these gimbals. Those would be a GREAT upgrade!
JB, man,, you say so much without saying a word. You keep me laughing with your expressions. That also keeps me tuned in. Don't change a thing. Thanks again for making me learn something today!
So……it’s like a JR or Futaba now, but with open tx? And the hall sensors are included per the quick view I saw in the video? So, to make things more respectable money wise, get the lesser priced version and add the metal gimbals? Gotsta have toothpicks for precision grease applications, qtips for clean up. Or a mini zip tie works super.
I see what you mean about that little bit of extra 'wiggle'' space when pressing the throttle lower on my T16, but that little anomaly has never been an issue for me, the gimbals on that are perfectly fine for my flying. At $130 I guess it's for serious racers or anyone who has to have the best no matter what.
That jitter on the yaw is caused by a lack of sheilding from an external tx like crossfire. Radiomaster support legit said "just turn down your tx to 25mw"... Glad these gimbals seem to have better sheilding
I love Joshua B. He cracks me up with his witty banter, and he knows what he's talking about; thanks for doing what you do, sir. Keep up the great work!
Love my TX16S. Wish mine drifted though. Feeling left out. Seriously though - never noticed any drift flying quads almost every day since I got the Tx. Love that touch - flying with EdgeTX.
I got tired of this on my 1st gen T16 so I put M9r gimbals in it. The amount of work it required was absolutely insane, glad to see there's a much better option now, even if it is really pricey
Gut dass ich dich ma treffe, in einem deiner letzten Videos hast du super stabilisiertes Gopro Video aber im FPV sieht man das dein Wing über quer rollt. Hast du mal mit höheren D Werten getestet. ff und I haben ja kein Einfluss darauf und P kann man hoch drehen bis er überschwingt, das bringt nicht viel. So bald wieder Wetter ist werd ich da mal rum probieren, mit TPA kann man ja überschwingen vermindern.
@@BBFPV ich arbeite derzeit an einem Video für komplett manuelles Tuning. Aber schreib mal nen Kommentar welches Video du meinst und welche Stelle. Dass ich genau verstehe was du meinst.
Correctly calibrating with no force does prevent the channel endpoint from changing. The point is just to demonstrate how much flex the factory gimbal has vs. the metal one.
Nice review, as always! I think the „sensual“ thing to do is waiting for the new Radiomaster - let’s call it tx 20 - with built-in elrs 2,4 ghz and 915/865 mhz and these frickin‘ gimbals in the max version ;-). Should be between 300 and 350 bucks and will give the competition a round for their money. I bet it’s gonna come out next spring, maybe even sooner. Peace
Thanks bud I have been thinking about ditching my x9d for something nice and new with elrs built in. I think I’ll wait a little bit I want kinda that zorro or something dope in the x12 size
i just bought these. my tx16s is half year old and the right gimbal is weird in the top right. i can push down on the stick and it changes value of around 5 to 10 and stay there until i slightly pull the stick out. i screwed down the 2 adjustable metal things in the back and its somehow good now. but these look verry good and i beleve after seeing this they must feel buttersmooth and solid
why did you show me this....uuungh...my cousin and i both have heavily modified tx16s radios...he just got the led gimbal mod...now i want this. im regularly adjusting the trims...now i need these. love you joshua.
That was something I had to-do with my first radio, the IR8M! Not the best radio, but it served its purpose. The gimbals were "loose" around the middle, I glued them onto the pot shaft with some nailpolish and all the jittery sloppiness went away!
Just got mine. The last thing that I have been missing from my Taranis X9D was that heavier solid stick feel. The sound/feel when you let the sticks snap back. Very nice.
Hi Joshua, I have the same feeling that obviously it does matter but not as much. Good pilot will fly with Ski sticks same as with superb awesome excellent gimbals. Simple as this ... All the best.
AG01 V3 is already on aliexpress with the same price as of getfpv. Anyway, it's a set of thruster and self-centered sticks with front adjust screw holes which already appeared on Radiomaster's OEM Eachine remote. They reused the design.
Glad to see the metal gimbals fit with the LED spacers. When you first showed the metal ones I was sure they looked thicker than the plastic ones, when I put the LED rings in I noticed the rear of the gimbals was pretty close to the rear cover of the TX.
Got the Gimbal Set and bevor putting them in I watched your video .....you are funny af JB!!! The "what about Mary" reference has me on the floor laughing!!
Hey guys a Toothpick works great for putting some grease on that plastic piece instead of a q-tip and I think THATS a piece of silicon over the plastic piece there but I put a little lube on my stock gimbles
Have the TX16s "new color edition", haptic motor mount was broken out of the box. Added the CNC kit and several screw holes were stripped or posts cracked from factory, had to use lots of bigger screws to reassemble. But also anyplace the "grease" had got on the plastic it was was crumbling, like locktite does to PC. Got it working, but because it does not fit my hands have gone back to my X9D+. If you interested I will make you a deal on a very slightly used TX16s, am in North central Florida.
Bad things happen once you go too deep down the rabbit hole of a hobby... If your not careful you will be seriously out of pocket and not much happier.. I must have spent 3000 over the space of 2 years on this gadget and that gadget.. Pretty much all of them are in a big rc gadget box in my room and ill admit i've only probably used 1/3 of them, that's probably a stretch just to make myself feel better here !!!
Oh my GOD!!! The gimbals on a $1200 radio are better than the gimbals on a $180 radio?? :D They dang well better be! I had noticed the flex on the gimbals of my TX-16s. To compensate, I am VERY careful when I do a calibration and have even gone into Companion and tweaked the calibration data to guarantee a +100 & -100 resting position with no contact with the stick. Other than this, the original gimbals are very good. I can't say that I have noticed any effect from this flex (or other minor flaws of the gimbals) in flight. Still... I am now very tempted by these new gimbals. I really wondered about these gimbals when I firs saw them a few days ago and am glad/unhappy to have seen this video demonstrating their differences. Yes, I am somewhat of a gimbal snob even if I may not have the skill level to truly take advantage of the better hardware.
im so glad i got mine, my pretty new tx16s right gimbal was acting weird pretty early on. if i put pressure on the stick just by having my thumb on it, it wil slightly pitch forward, it does that upto 9% depend how hard i push the stick wile flying. now its all smooth and i can just really hard handle the stick and only get the output i give currenty
If this were on my old Qx7s that I used for 3 years, this would be a no brainer - it has great gimbals but I could notice some issues and unpleasant feeling with trying to nail a smooth line. Maybe at year 2 or 3 for Radiomaster, I’ll be eyeing these up as a definite way to maintain my radio.
I’ve had a Tx16s on the desk for months. And just honestly did not like the feel of the sticks. I do run the r stick on my x9d and love it. This is all the radio needed for me to make the move. Thanks for the review. Product should be here in the next day or so.
I got mine on order and I can't wait to adjust my throttle distance for some reason I could never get full access with my hands on the radio master TX-16S
Nice video! I love the look and probably the feel, if I could afford them. Mine actually didn't have that flex problem you showed at the beginning of the video, and the bending of the plastic faceplate is made moot, when they are screwed to an aluminum CNC faceplate , which is what my Max, and yours also has. My gimbals actually feel better than my old Jumper T16, so I won't be replacing them ,unless they break. Yours might be the by-product of inconsistencies of production:-)Then, I will be faced by the decision to buy these. If the radio is still in good operable condition, than I would probably pull the trigger. But so far, all is good with my Radiomaster T16S Max, and I love it. Love the fact your doing setup and programming videos on the T16S. Keep up the great work!
I can confirm as of March 2022 if you buy the 199.99 dollar v3 hall tx16s it has the front adjustments on the V3 halls. However I still got these gimbals and they are unbelievable
At 15:14, can't you put softer springs to solve that? I have a t18 and it makes the same, a lot more than my old qx7. I wonder if I change the springs it would be softer...
The stock gimbals are pretty good and none of my high end radios where any better. When JR put metal gimbals in there radio they where awesome. I never owned one but flew with one and wow best gimbals period. So I expect these gimbals will to be the same when I get them can't wait. It will technically turn the cheap radio into an expensive radio
Here the thing about the radiomaster/jumper you are getting what you pay for if it dident run open source i would throw it down the block but since it does i use it i do love my spektrum ix 12 /dx9 if those radios ran open source it would be a no brainer
The reason why the wires are run underneath the others is so they do not get caught in the gimbals. The throttle/left gimbal should probably be run under the first and second set of cables.
Bummer, I was there a while back. Got a stimulus check, and bought the Jumper T16, to replace my bricked QX7 Taranis.(this is before I watched videos on how to revive bricked radios:-( Doesn't matter, because there is a noticeable control difference between the two. Now that I Bought a Radiomaster T16S, I could sense a small difference in the gimbals between those two. Stuff just keeps getting better. T16S is the best radio I've used. It was worth the jump to Hall effect gimbals for the control improvement.Hope you'll be able to try it sometime. Happy flying, it's good with Taranis also.
I also noticed that I very rarely get full extension of my gimbals. pretty much live in the 80% range... any upgrades like this for Tango / Mamba ? this would be a nice treat for yourself or upgrade if something goes wrong.
I have a jumper T12 Pro with hall effect gimbals and love the feel. My T8SG also has the hall effect gimbals. They are rock solid with no flutter or bounce!
That’s surprising. I’ve had 3 different T12s and 5 different T8SG radios over the years and they all had stick jitter when you check BF receiver tab. Radio feels ok but hard to get consistency. Have you tried other radios? You may find other hall effect gimbals are noticeably better at similar cost.
@@m2kfpv449 When I set the sub trim in mine and go to the receiver tab, they center at 1500 and do not flutter like the old mechanical gimbals did on say a Flysky FS-I6 radio I guess what works for some!
Jumper T8SG/T12 have a great size and switch layout imo, but even after adjustment, calibrating, setting endpoints and subtrim, the gimbals frequently go out of calibration. Again, not a bad radio but those gimbals are not consistent in my experience.
Mind seeing if there is a way to pull off the aluminum face plate? We have these nice looking CNC color plates and they just make us toss them away! I want to see about pulling off the plate and anodizing it purple to match things up again
I'm not going to do it just to find out, but I think you could nearly completely disassemble the gimbal. It is all screws holding it together as far as I can tell.
I just tested the gimbals in my TX16S (carbon fiber faceplate version) and I get no flex at all. They also don't jitter and I have the ADC filter off. I did just get it a few months ago so maybe that's why?. Running EdgeTX on it. I do really want these gimbals. Sucks they cost more than I paid for the radio but I'm gonna get them. Probably going to have to wait until next year though with Xmas coming up and hopefully getting my Steamdeck soon, my budget for hobbies is tight.
I always set the ratching a Little Bit in thad i can feel a little bit for an haptic feedback how much throttle i Give from the way but the tension i make with the other spring
What I can't seem to get an answer on from anyone, including radio master is if these new gimbals have the same temperature drift issue the original ones did
what temperature range did you talked about? this gimbal (and another hall gimbal) will tend to drift cause by temperature because magnet get weaker/change based on temperature. but afaik is not much at all. so you probably dealing with massive temperature range.
@@ZuNunchaku Actually we are talking about normal operating range (25-30deg C), and its bad enough that it can stop your motor from arming and the throttle does not get low enough. One of the EdgeTX developers tracked it down to poor design, a resistor that was too high and poor magnet orientation. It's led to EdgeTX supporting the much better flysky gimbals in the TX16S
@@roborrock7945 if it cause by poor magnet orientation or resistor it will NOT cause a drift. Just a non linear reading. If you talking about drifting (change overtime/not repetitive value) so either cause by magnet (orientation, placing, etc) or plastic deformation or something like that or noise/cross talking from the cable that cause magnet interference.
How do these sensors compare to the stock are the sensors the same as stock? How does it compare to the flysky FS-HZCZ03-ADJ which have an spi bus and can be polled at a higher rate?
I have been having problems with my radio since I purchased it. My throttle is doing the same thing. But I have a FRSKY Xlite radio. I just wonder if it would work. Thanks again for the update.
I’ve found X-lite can be weird about those gimbal adjustment screws in the back. I backed mine all the way out and then put back in making sure to use the correct length adjustment screw per FRSKY manual. Recalibrate and have been good for months now.
Joshua, you need longer throttle fingers and skinner screwdrivers, especially the screwdrivers, thay was painful to watch the wrong sized tool being used. I must be a little weird with the sticks, I reverse the heads so the knurled section is facing the gimbal, and the cone shaped collar is all the way up, to make the sticks as long as possible for a greater length arc for the degrees of movement, for as fine a granularity of control as possible.
I just got the tx16s mk2 jb edition. I've fully limited the travel or throw of the gimbals using the front adjustment screws but it's still too much for me. Can I further limit the travel from the inside of the radio/back of the gimbal?
I got some of these. But in my case there were no grease included. It seams that the throttle tension is getting loose . Do i need this grease or some loctite for the screw? Is a litte bit of anoing, that such expensive gimbals getting loose by their own. What would you say?
The real upgrade is said to be the FlySky HZCZ03-ADJ gimbals. They require a custom version of EDGE TX but then you get all kinds of voodoo including 4096 steps resolution, 3 axis hall sensor and a temperature. If you plan on running 500hz update rate the added resolution should be win. Please also review the most extravagant solution!@@
@@JoshuaBardwell They require modification to fit in the TX16/18/16S/18S. hawk-creation has an assembly kit for 30$. Then another 130 for the actual gimbals. Or alternatively I *think* they might fit straight into the Nirvana radio, which would make it the most up-to-date radio on the market now that it has EDGE TX as well. Long time coming.
Hi Joshua I brought ts16se recently now I’m facing problem of key stuck and suddenly pitch trim reach to its extreme position. Can’t figure out exact reason. Radiomaster not responding properly for the troubleshooting.
Too bad they don’t offer anodized aluminum to match the color combos they sold in the TX16S Max. I have the gold blingy and will lose some with these gimbals. 😟
We already change our transmitters one a year because of the fancy funky bigger better faster reason. How important is it that they last 200 years? You can handle dead-zones, jitter and flex at the end throw in betaflight or sim calibration. Adjusting tension once in anTX lifetime. But hobbyists love to invest in their hobby.
Depending on how hard you pressed during calibration, the extra wiggle room may not result in additional channel movement. Doesn't change that the wiggle is there.
@@JoshuaBardwell according to your previous recommendations I was really gentle during calibration ;) but actually I guess, despite their cheap price, their “frame” also made of some kind of metal so they stiffer than stock ones on radiomaster
Did you ever grease your gimbals? I have jumper tx12, and from the factory one of the gimbals even squeaked a little bit, I used lithium grease and it bece very smooth. Can't do anything with flex, just don't push it too far, but they are buttery smooth now
The gimbals look very well made. But the price is really very high. The battery for the Radiomaster. can also be charged via the USB-C socket? Okay with a LiPo charger it is certainly faster.
Not sure how they are easier to charge, since the radio has internal charging. Just plug in USB. Done. The 18650 do deliver 3000 mAh. Mine delivers 5000 mAh. And it fits perfectly in the battery bay so it doesn't rattle. That's why I switched.
@@JoshuaBardwell I totally agress with you. What I meant was if you like to charge LiPos or 18650s externally, it's easier with 18650 since you don't need to babysit them and chargers are cheaper and simpler to use. My 18650 tray (that was included with the TX16S) doesn't rattle, there is a thick piece of foam on the lid. And a 20% increase in battery was a big deal to me
Great video Josh however I have a question on another topic if you could answer for me please. It's my understanding that the speedy B app is equipped with BL Heli S. So could I use the speedy B app to set up my i-flight f405 bord in the navgull 5 v2 with rpm soothing and all that good stuff???
Hi Joshua! I have a problem with my quad, I can't use it with a pwm frequency lower than 32Khz. For example, if I use 24Khz, the quad starts to do yaw twitches. I'm not sure what could be causing this problem. All started when I had a Hglrc F722 Fc with a Hglrc Forward 60A 4 in 1 esc on the quad, but the twitches were in the yaw and pitch axis. Later, I decided to change the flight controller, because I thought it could be a bad gyro problem, I installed a Hobbywing xrotor f7 Fc, but the problem didn't go away. I'm not sure if I have bad luck with bad gyros or if the esc could be causing it. The flight controller is soft mounted and the esc has a 1000uF capacitor, the build is clean, the frame doesn't have any cracks, it's a new build. I saw a video from FlightOne where they talk about yaw twitches and they said that the esc could be causing the problem. The quad is flyable with 32Khz and above, but the motors get hot. If I change the esc will the problem solve?
Great . I hated the flex on the throttle so much on the t16s. I just bought a jeti ds14. Now this upgrade . Do I keep the jeti or install new gimbles and keep the tx16s
Disclaimer: the LEDs are NOT part of the gimbal and are a separate accessory. Correction: the accessory springs are WEAKER than the stock ones, not STRONGER -- I got that wrong.
Get the LED rings for your gimbals at: bit.ly/2Z2n5KG
Any idea if they will fit the jumper T18 pro?
Got LEDs on my but they are the Banggood ones . These are what I would get now if I were to get some . They plug in and you don’t need clear tape 😂😂
Oh I need these gimbals because my gimbals are goofy ,my throttle movement does that exact same thing
Holy shite, 79.99 each, or 129.99 a set. They seem really nice and if they fit the QX-7 or the Jumper T-6 I would probably get them. I think I paid 29.99 each for hall gimbals for the QX7, but not that quality.
Pro tip; if you still have your Radiomaster TX16s foam case it comes in, you can flip your radio upside down in it and work on the back without your nice new gimbals rubbing and pushing into the table.
Pillow works nicely as well. A bonus to using a pillow is that it will often catch random screws that will inevitably be dropped.
I know there must be something I can do with the foam case and I kept it ever since I unboxed. Thanks for the sharing!
Good tip, thanks for that.
Wow great idea , that is always a concern of mine
I have always just used my wife stomach. She's ok with it as long as its not a longer project.
The amount of people in the comments that deep down want these gimbals but they are trying justify to themselves why they should not buy them(probably because they can't afford them right now but really want them). Is funny as hell haha. If I had a Radiomaster. I would 100% get them! Gimbals are super important man. Just as important as video tx and rx. As well control link too.
Well said mate- I have Ts16s, I’m getting these coz I need everything edge I can get 😅👍🤝
I thoroughly love my TX16S, but the endpoints being “fluid” is getting worse by the day, now that it’s 6+ months old and has 6 or 8 models programmed into it, which I cycle through multiple times daily.
Wish I could afford these gimbals. Those would be a GREAT upgrade!
"Mode 2 like Jesus intended." haha someone had to say it.
Blunty looks more like Jesus but does not flu mode2.
nah im still rockin mode 4 :)
@@Just4FunRC
Foot pedals for throttle 4 life!!!
@@jonathanwilliams1644 so how many drones per day do you crash? :)
Pelvic thrust for throttle.
JB, man,, you say so much without saying a word. You keep me laughing with your expressions. That also keeps me tuned in. Don't change a thing. Thanks again for making me learn something today!
What he said 👆👆👆👆
@@MustangPilot1 👍
This transmitter now just needs one thing to be perfect: a 5-in-1 ELRS internal module.
Please make it happen RadioMaster!
i hope this will never happen
@@sigterm15 why lmao?
The 4 in 1 with a ranger is the best
So……it’s like a JR or Futaba now, but with open tx? And the hall sensors are included per the quick view I saw in the video? So, to make things more respectable money wise, get the lesser priced version and add the metal gimbals? Gotsta have toothpicks for precision grease applications, qtips for clean up. Or a mini zip tie works super.
I see what you mean about that little bit of extra 'wiggle'' space when pressing the throttle lower on my T16, but that little anomaly has never been an issue for me, the gimbals on that are perfectly fine for my flying.
At $130 I guess it's for serious racers or anyone who has to have the best no matter what.
If you calibrate gimbals gently you dont have this phenomenton.
@@ansgaryeysymontt7155 Exactly, treat the gimbals well and they won't mess you around.
@@ansgaryeysymontt7155 that never goes away you can never calibrate exactly to how the push reacts at the upper and lower limits
@@MrSabram07 You never use limits of
stick throw...
That jitter on the yaw is caused by a lack of sheilding from an external tx like crossfire. Radiomaster support legit said "just turn down your tx to 25mw"... Glad these gimbals seem to have better sheilding
I love Joshua B. He cracks me up with his witty banter, and he knows what he's talking about; thanks for doing what you do, sir. Keep up the great work!
Joshua, if you are not a gimbal snob, you just made me one :) Placed my order on the affiliate link listed. Thanks for the great video.
Love my TX16S. Wish mine drifted though. Feeling left out. Seriously though - never noticed any drift flying quads almost every day since I got the Tx. Love that touch - flying with EdgeTX.
Hear about drift all the time and honestly haven’t seen or felt it drift even from warm home where it was calibrated into the colder 45 outside.
I got tired of this on my 1st gen T16 so I put M9r gimbals in it. The amount of work it required was absolutely insane, glad to see there's a much better option now, even if it is really pricey
I would just calibrate them properly with no force and solve the issue 🤣 but they look cool though.
Gut dass ich dich ma treffe, in einem deiner letzten Videos hast du super stabilisiertes Gopro Video aber im FPV sieht man das dein Wing über quer rollt. Hast du mal mit höheren D Werten getestet. ff und I haben ja kein Einfluss darauf und P kann man hoch drehen bis er überschwingt, das bringt nicht viel. So bald wieder Wetter ist werd ich da mal rum probieren, mit TPA kann man ja überschwingen vermindern.
@@BBFPV ich arbeite derzeit an einem Video für komplett manuelles Tuning. Aber schreib mal nen Kommentar welches Video du meinst und welche Stelle. Dass ich genau verstehe was du meinst.
@@MarcFPV Find es auf die Schnelle gerade nicht, ich schau dann mal in dein tuning Video.
Correctly calibrating with no force does prevent the channel endpoint from changing. The point is just to demonstrate how much flex the factory gimbal has vs. the metal one.
@@JoshuaBardwell yep agree. Checked on mine and it's the same. But that never bothered me. Not even noticed till now 😅
Nice review, as always! I think the „sensual“ thing to do is waiting for the new Radiomaster - let’s call it tx 20 - with built-in elrs 2,4 ghz and 915/865 mhz and these frickin‘ gimbals in the max version ;-). Should be between 300 and 350 bucks and will give the competition a round for their money. I bet it’s gonna come out next spring, maybe even sooner. Peace
Take my money! 😅
@@vuchuong74 and mine 😃👍
Thanks bud I have been thinking about ditching my x9d for something nice and new with elrs built in. I think I’ll wait a little bit I want kinda that zorro or something dope in the x12 size
Love this guy really! He just does not make these reviews boring at all. Thanks dude!
Just got my TX16S and yes, the gimbals have screws adjustable from the outside
Blessed is the man who throttles and yaws on his left, and pitches and roles on his right.
0:10 I'm sure a calibration would fix that. What happens is that when calibrating, some people force the stick, which leads to that.
When you take a radio apart you should set it in the foam carrier to protect the sticks. I use my Spektrum Tx foam package.
i just bought these.
my tx16s is half year old and the right gimbal is weird in the top right.
i can push down on the stick and it changes value of around 5 to 10 and stay there until i slightly pull the stick out.
i screwed down the 2 adjustable metal things in the back and its somehow good now.
but these look verry good and i beleve after seeing this they must feel buttersmooth and solid
I know it's expensive but I love this hobby. thr evolving technology and the things that you can tweak and fiddle with or what keep me addicted
why did you show me this....uuungh...my cousin and i both have heavily modified tx16s radios...he just got the led gimbal mod...now i want this. im regularly adjusting the trims...now i need these. love you joshua.
That was something I had to-do with my first radio, the IR8M! Not the best radio, but it served its purpose.
The gimbals were "loose" around the middle, I glued them onto the pot shaft with some nailpolish and all the jittery sloppiness went away!
That flex in the throttle at the beginning disappeared on my radiomaster when I installed the optional recess plates that come with the max kits.
Just got mine. The last thing that I have been missing from my Taranis X9D was that heavier solid stick feel. The sound/feel when you let the sticks snap back. Very nice.
Hi Joshua, I have the same feeling that obviously it does matter but not as much. Good pilot will fly with Ski sticks same as with superb awesome excellent gimbals.
Simple as this ...
All the best.
AG01 V3 is already on aliexpress with the same price as of getfpv. Anyway, it's a set of thruster and self-centered sticks with front adjust screw holes which already appeared on Radiomaster's OEM Eachine remote. They reused the design.
Glad to see the metal gimbals fit with the LED spacers. When you first showed the metal ones I was sure they looked thicker than the plastic ones, when I put the LED rings in I noticed the rear of the gimbals was pretty close to the rear cover of the TX.
Umm. Yeah. More about that in the LED video.
@@JoshuaBardwell LED Video? I can't seem to find it in your play list or using search..
Got the Gimbal Set and bevor putting them in I watched your video .....you are funny af JB!!! The "what about Mary" reference has me on the floor laughing!!
Hey guys a Toothpick works great for putting some grease on that plastic piece instead of a q-tip and I think THATS a piece of silicon over the plastic piece there but I put a little lube on my stock gimbles
Have the TX16s "new color edition", haptic motor mount was broken out of the box. Added the CNC kit and several screw holes were stripped or posts cracked from factory, had to use lots of bigger screws to reassemble. But also anyplace the "grease" had got on the plastic it was was crumbling, like locktite does to PC. Got it working, but because it does not fit my hands have gone back to my X9D+. If you interested I will make you a deal on a very slightly used TX16s, am in North central Florida.
1:20 anyone who don’t like ur flying is blind, u rip fullll sneddddd!! 🔥
Bad things happen once you go too deep down the rabbit hole of a hobby... If your not careful you will be seriously out of pocket and not much happier..
I must have spent 3000 over the space of 2 years on this gadget and that gadget.. Pretty much all of them are in a big rc gadget box in my room and ill admit i've only probably used 1/3 of them, that's probably a stretch just to make myself feel better here !!!
Lol. I hear ya. I wish 3000. Was all I spent, but I use the hell out of my stuff.
@@RCOverKill That's just what ive probably spent on gadgets.. Not planes or batteries I don't need,, well you get the point !! hahah
Oh my GOD!!! The gimbals on a $1200 radio are better than the gimbals on a $180 radio?? :D They dang well better be!
I had noticed the flex on the gimbals of my TX-16s. To compensate, I am VERY careful when I do a calibration and have even gone into Companion and tweaked the calibration data to guarantee a +100 & -100 resting position with no contact with the stick. Other than this, the original gimbals are very good. I can't say that I have noticed any effect from this flex (or other minor flaws of the gimbals) in flight. Still... I am now very tempted by these new gimbals. I really wondered about these gimbals when I firs saw them a few days ago and am glad/unhappy to have seen this video demonstrating their differences. Yes, I am somewhat of a gimbal snob even if I may not have the skill level to truly take advantage of the better hardware.
OMG...just the color scheme alone is worth the buy
To be clear, the LEDs are a separate accessory and are not part of the gimbal.
@@JoshuaBardwell booo...just let me know when you sell yours
im so glad i got mine, my pretty new tx16s right gimbal was acting weird pretty early on.
if i put pressure on the stick just by having my thumb on it, it wil slightly pitch forward, it does that upto 9% depend how hard i push the stick wile flying.
now its all smooth and i can just really hard handle the stick and only get the output i give currenty
If this were on my old Qx7s that I used for 3 years, this would be a no brainer - it has great gimbals but I could notice some issues and unpleasant feeling with trying to nail a smooth line. Maybe at year 2 or 3 for Radiomaster, I’ll be eyeing these up as a definite way to maintain my radio.
I’ve had a Tx16s on the desk for months. And just honestly did not like the feel of the sticks. I do run the r stick on my x9d and love it. This is all the radio needed for me to make the move. Thanks for the review. Product should be here in the next day or so.
M9R on x9. I personally use the R gimbal on both side because I like the shorter throw for pitch too. Even though its minute.
I got mine on order and I can't wait to adjust my throttle distance for some reason I could never get full access with my hands on the radio master TX-16S
My tx16s gimbals are wearing out. Perfect time for a upgrade
Nice video! I love the look and probably the feel, if I could afford them. Mine actually didn't have that flex problem you showed at the beginning of the video, and the bending of the plastic faceplate is made moot, when they are screwed to an aluminum CNC faceplate , which is what my Max, and yours also has. My gimbals actually feel better than my old Jumper T16, so I won't be replacing them ,unless they break. Yours might be the by-product of inconsistencies of production:-)Then, I will be faced by the decision to buy these. If the radio is still in good operable condition, than I would probably pull the trigger. But so far, all is good with my Radiomaster T16S Max, and I love it. Love the fact your doing setup and programming videos on the T16S. Keep up the great work!
I can confirm as of March 2022 if you buy the 199.99 dollar v3 hall tx16s it has the front adjustments on the V3 halls. However I still got these gimbals and they are unbelievable
At 15:14, can't you put softer springs to solve that? I have a t18 and it makes the same, a lot more than my old qx7. I wonder if I change the springs it would be softer...
If you replace the sticks with a thinner base there won't be any "wiggle" input, what actually happens is the stick knob is hitting the gimbal frame.
The stock gimbals are pretty good and none of my high end radios where any better. When JR put metal gimbals in there radio they where awesome. I never owned one but flew with one and wow best gimbals period. So I expect these gimbals will to be the same when I get them can't wait. It will technically turn the cheap radio into an expensive radio
Here the thing about the radiomaster/jumper you are getting what you pay for if it dident run open source i would throw it down the block but since it does i use it i do love my spektrum ix 12 /dx9 if those radios ran open source it would be a no brainer
Heard that thermal shift was the problem with centering the sticks. Does this solve that problem?
The reason why the wires are run underneath the others is so they do not get caught in the gimbals. The throttle/left gimbal should probably be run under the first and second set of cables.
Could you check if they can be made to fit in a X9D? (:
And here I am with the stock Taranis gimbals :D
Bummer, I was there a while back. Got a stimulus check, and bought the Jumper T16, to replace my bricked QX7 Taranis.(this is before I watched videos on how to revive bricked radios:-( Doesn't matter, because there is a noticeable control difference between the two. Now that I Bought a Radiomaster T16S, I could sense a small difference in the gimbals between those two. Stuff just keeps getting better. T16S is the best radio I've used. It was worth the jump to Hall effect gimbals for the control improvement.Hope you'll be able to try it sometime. Happy flying, it's good with Taranis also.
I’ve been waiting for this and I haven’t even upgraded my radio from the Futaba j8 yet. 😎❤️👍
edit: “…as Jesus intended…” 🤣
I also noticed that I very rarely get full extension of my gimbals.
pretty much live in the 80% range...
any upgrades like this for Tango / Mamba ?
this would be a nice treat for yourself or upgrade if something goes wrong.
I have a jumper T12 Pro with hall effect gimbals and love the feel. My T8SG also has the hall effect gimbals. They are rock solid with no flutter or bounce!
That’s surprising. I’ve had 3 different T12s and 5 different T8SG radios over the years and they all had stick jitter when you check BF receiver tab. Radio feels ok but hard to get consistency. Have you tried other radios? You may find other hall effect gimbals are noticeably better at similar cost.
@@m2kfpv449 When I set the sub trim in mine and go to the receiver tab, they center at 1500 and do not flutter like the old mechanical gimbals did on say a Flysky FS-I6 radio I guess what works for some!
@@m2kfpv449 I do wonder if you had problems with them, why so many? I am not a gimbal snob!
Jumper T8SG/T12 have a great size and switch layout imo, but even after adjustment, calibrating, setting endpoints and subtrim, the gimbals frequently go out of calibration. Again, not a bad radio but those gimbals are not consistent in my experience.
The JB transformation continues. Blue workbench & now blue gimbals.
I don’t even have this radio but my my aren’t these sweet.
Mind seeing if there is a way to pull off the aluminum face plate? We have these nice looking CNC color plates and they just make us toss them away! I want to see about pulling off the plate and anodizing it purple to match things up again
I'm not going to do it just to find out, but I think you could nearly completely disassemble the gimbal. It is all screws holding it together as far as I can tell.
My 4yr old taranis with frsky hall gimballs are still 💯%
I went with the flysky gimbal mod, similar price. I do like how these gimbals are made specific for the tx16s and do not need extra mounting pieces.
@Bradley Witney Yes Sir, I agree.
Love the feel of mine. The red is a nice accent to the color scheme of my radio. ☺️
Any chance this gimbal is interchangeable with the Jumper T16?
I just tested the gimbals in my TX16S (carbon fiber faceplate version) and I get no flex at all. They also don't jitter and I have the ADC filter off. I did just get it a few months ago so maybe that's why?. Running EdgeTX on it. I do really want these gimbals. Sucks they cost more than I paid for the radio but I'm gonna get them. Probably going to have to wait until next year though with Xmas coming up and hopefully getting my Steamdeck soon, my budget for hobbies is tight.
I always set the ratching a Little Bit in thad i can feel a little bit for an haptic feedback how much throttle i Give from the way but the tension i make with the other spring
We need that shirt to be made again!
I'm sold, great review, thanks JB
Hi Joshua ! I didn't get if u can manage to get ag01 + led work toghether without any problems of traveling stick..
Pretty impressive gimbals indeed, Joshua! 😮
Awesome review!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
What I can't seem to get an answer on from anyone, including radio master is if these new gimbals have the same temperature drift issue the original ones did
what temperature range did you talked about? this gimbal (and another hall gimbal) will tend to drift cause by temperature because magnet get weaker/change based on temperature. but afaik is not much at all. so you probably dealing with massive temperature range.
@@ZuNunchaku Actually we are talking about normal operating range (25-30deg C), and its bad enough that it can stop your motor from arming and the throttle does not get low enough. One of the EdgeTX developers tracked it down to poor design, a resistor that was too high and poor magnet orientation. It's led to EdgeTX supporting the much better flysky gimbals in the TX16S
@@roborrock7945 if it cause by poor magnet orientation or resistor it will NOT cause a drift. Just a non linear reading.
If you talking about drifting (change overtime/not repetitive value) so either cause by magnet (orientation, placing, etc) or plastic deformation or something like that or noise/cross talking from the cable that cause magnet interference.
I have a new tx16s with rhe same adjustments on the hall gimbals, i was afraid that they didn't send me a radio with hall gimbals 🤣
Something about Mary... I LOL'd
Thank you for the review, and that might be a 100 hour present for me.
How do these sensors compare to the stock are the sensors the same as stock? How does it compare to the flysky FS-HZCZ03-ADJ which have an spi bus and can be polled at a higher rate?
from all the pics I saw they use the same sensor boards than the stock hall gimbals, they are likely to behave the same way with temp drift and all
@@ototheo2740 the issue has not occured yet for me, I have been testing these gimbals for about 8 months
@@Noical Which Gimbals were you testing for 8 months?
@@tropicalrc5163 the CNC AG01 gimbals that this video is about
I have been having problems with my radio since I purchased it. My throttle is doing the same thing. But I have a FRSKY Xlite radio. I just wonder if it would work. Thanks again for the update.
I’ve found X-lite can be weird about those gimbal adjustment screws in the back. I backed mine all the way out and then put back in making sure to use the correct length adjustment screw per FRSKY manual. Recalibrate and have been good for months now.
I kinda want to upgrade because it probably minimizes that need to recalibrate every 5 minutes, but I don't know if that is worth 140 bucks.
Joshua, you need longer throttle fingers and skinner screwdrivers, especially the screwdrivers, thay was painful to watch the wrong sized tool being used.
I must be a little weird with the sticks, I reverse the heads so the knurled section is facing the gimbal, and the cone shaped collar is all the way up, to make the sticks as long as possible for a greater length arc for the degrees of movement, for as fine a granularity of control as possible.
Do they solve the drift issue tho? The FlySky gimbals are another CNC gimbal to use for this and they DO cure any drift problems.
I have no flex in my gimbals, but these trembling poti sliders are scary!
Would the gymbol travel issue be fixed through the calibration feature of the radio?
I just got the tx16s mk2 jb edition.
I've fully limited the travel or throw of the gimbals using the front adjustment screws but it's still too much for me.
Can I further limit the travel from the inside of the radio/back of the gimbal?
The Gimbals look really good.
Any chance I can retrofit them into my RadioKing TX18S??. I really want it...please give me advice.
I have your JB T16s with the light mod. Do the AG01 gimbals work with the light mod now? I remember in another video they didn’t fit.
I got some of these. But in my case there were no
grease included. It seams that the throttle tension is getting loose . Do i need this grease or some loctite for the screw? Is a litte bit of anoing, that such expensive gimbals getting loose by their own. What would you say?
The real upgrade is said to be the FlySky HZCZ03-ADJ gimbals. They require a custom version of EDGE TX but then you get all kinds of voodoo including 4096 steps resolution, 3 axis hall sensor and a temperature. If you plan on running 500hz update rate the added resolution should be win. Please also review the most extravagant solution!@@
Are they drop-in on the TX16S?
@@JoshuaBardwell They require modification to fit in the TX16/18/16S/18S. hawk-creation has an assembly kit for 30$. Then another 130 for the actual gimbals.
Or alternatively I *think* they might fit straight into the Nirvana radio, which would make it the most up-to-date radio on the market now that it has EDGE TX as well. Long time coming.
Hi Joshua I brought ts16se recently now I’m facing problem of key stuck and suddenly pitch trim reach to its extreme position. Can’t figure out exact reason. Radiomaster not responding properly for the troubleshooting.
Too bad they don’t offer anodized aluminum to match the color combos they sold in the TX16S Max. I have the gold blingy and will lose some with these gimbals. 😟
I felt the same way.
My Scroll wheel has started jumping around…. Do I need a new one? Is metal upgrade better?
We already change our transmitters one a year because of the fancy funky bigger better faster reason. How important is it that they last 200 years? You can handle dead-zones, jitter and flex at the end throw in betaflight or sim calibration. Adjusting tension once in anTX lifetime. But hobbyists love to invest in their hobby.
Funny, I don't have any of problems shown in the beginning of the video with my hall gimbals I bought for $50 (for both) on taranis qx7.
Depending on how hard you pressed during calibration, the extra wiggle room may not result in additional channel movement. Doesn't change that the wiggle is there.
@@JoshuaBardwell In that case, will we see the wiggle in betaflight receiver tab? Or still no?
@@JoshuaBardwell according to your previous recommendations I was really gentle during calibration ;) but actually I guess, despite their cheap price, their “frame” also made of some kind of metal so they stiffer than stock ones on radiomaster
Is there a way to stop the sticks from grinding against the housing when hitting full stick and corners?
Use the limit screws to reduce the top/bottom travel until they don't grind.
Did you ever grease your gimbals? I have jumper tx12, and from the factory one of the gimbals even squeaked a little bit, I used lithium grease and it bece very smooth. Can't do anything with flex, just don't push it too far, but they are buttery smooth now
do these have those middle gap transitions like all other gimbals when tightened?
@Joshua Are they compatible with Jumper T16 hall series? Thanks
my Radiomaster has the gimbals that are adjustable from the outside.
The gimbals look very well made. But the price is really very high.
The battery for the Radiomaster. can also be charged via the USB-C socket? Okay with a LiPo charger it is certainly faster.
Instead of using a 5000mah LiPo, just buy 2 Sony VTC6 18650s. They are rated for 3000mAh each, are lighter and easier to charge
Not sure how they are easier to charge, since the radio has internal charging. Just plug in USB. Done. The 18650 do deliver 3000 mAh. Mine delivers 5000 mAh. And it fits perfectly in the battery bay so it doesn't rattle. That's why I switched.
@@JoshuaBardwell I totally agress with you. What I meant was if you like to charge LiPos or 18650s externally, it's easier with 18650 since you don't need to babysit them and chargers are cheaper and simpler to use. My 18650 tray (that was included with the TX16S) doesn't rattle, there is a thick piece of foam on the lid. And a 20% increase in battery was a big deal to me
Great video Josh however I have a question on another topic if you could answer for me please. It's my understanding that the speedy B app is equipped with BL Heli S. So could I use the speedy B app to set up my i-flight f405 bord in the navgull 5 v2 with rpm soothing and all that good stuff???
Yes you could do that.
thanks share, but could AG01 replace gimbals of jumper T16 pro Hall version?
Can you set these lights on a switch to dim them?
Hi Joshua!
I have a problem with my quad, I can't use it with a pwm frequency lower than 32Khz. For example, if I use 24Khz, the quad starts to do yaw twitches. I'm not sure what could be causing this problem. All started when I had a Hglrc F722 Fc with a Hglrc Forward 60A 4 in 1 esc on the quad, but the twitches were in the yaw and pitch axis. Later, I decided to change the flight controller, because I thought it could be a bad gyro problem, I installed a Hobbywing xrotor f7 Fc, but the problem didn't go away.
I'm not sure if I have bad luck with bad gyros or if the esc could be causing it. The flight controller is soft mounted and the esc has a 1000uF capacitor, the build is clean, the frame doesn't have any cracks, it's a new build.
I saw a video from FlightOne where they talk about yaw twitches and they said that the esc could be causing the problem. The quad is flyable with 32Khz and above, but the motors get hot.
If I change the esc will the problem solve?
I changed to the other springs that come in the box. Pretty sure they are looser than the stock springs.
Great . I hated the flex on the throttle so much on the t16s. I just bought a jeti ds14. Now this upgrade . Do I keep the jeti or install new gimbles and keep the tx16s
A RadioMaster will never compete with a Jeti for quality.
Would that make sense on a DJI radio? The air unit one I mean.
Winter is coming!..... Going to freeze my pinchers with all metal. but definite getting those :D