@@WalterKnox thats what happens when software development becomes a salary job instead of a contracting style arangement. security and tech support makes sense. but what else would all those developers do all year if they weren't pushing out usless garbage features. i feel for you man
Windows 11's system requirements are absolutely fucking mental i use a Pentium D on Windows Vista for EVERYTHING and my PC has somehow not exploded and paralysed me like Microsoft keeps insisting will happen to Windows 10 users
Yep. I still have many machines running XP and Pentium 4 CPUs, which perform their tasks great. My main machine is from the core 2 era and runs XP and does everything I need it to do. A standard PC user who just does web browsing, social media, shopping, and maybe some UA-cam watching can get by just fine with a core 2 duo aside from poorly optimized, over bloated modern software.
@@livingipod2 Vista was the first Windows computer I had. I kinda miss it in a way. Windows 7 was peak, but Vista has a special place in my heart for being the first. Before that I mostly used old Macs, which I also miss. Need to get me one of those old colorful CRT macs, those were awesome.
Windows 11 is literally just a cheap reskin of Windows 10. I installed it when it first came out and there were many instances where it called itself "Windows 10" in places like regedit.
Fun fact: Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 was going to be the last operating system with never ending security updates all the way back in 2015. Lol yeah time flies when you're having fun. Cheers 🍻
I modified a Windows10 installation so that it would NEVER update! I've been using it for several years on all computers and I can go quietly on the ass of all the crap Microsoft can come up with. My systems have never caught a virus, I've never had telematics attacks, I've never had to reinstall anything. I really like this video that seems to come from UA-cam's past.
You are one of the few computer users out there who is actually knowledgeable. Almost every single point you made is true. I wish there would be more computer users out there who know that most “obsolescence” is just an illusion.
Eh... I don't know about that, it is just a bunch of cheap/free decade old hardware held together with hopes and dreams. It does pretty well for what it is though.
@@WalterKnox well i made a macbook pro from 2009 run monterey, which came out in late 2021. And it runs it pretty well. Some upgrading, patience and elbow grease and it does the job, hence why i appreciate your setup
yeeep… though at least you can uninstall most of copilot natively through apps and features on win10, unlike on 11 where it has the msedge syndrome of for some zombiebrained decision being a goddamn dependency of the goddamn file explorer
Yikes. I feel ya. Just had to walk my 60 year old dad through getting the new AI bloat removed on his laptop he's had since 2015. Thank god for regedit
I had no idea Microsoft force installed that AI bs on my 2020 Lenovo. I just uninstalled it. Thanks for telling me. They keep pushing me to go to 11 and I keep telling them to go frick themselves, and my laptop has been working fine for over a year that its been recomending this Orwellian crap. Its sluggish sometimes but otherwise its fine. Maybe it was CoPilot doing it! Uninstalled now, good riddance. I am not a big AI fan.
@lukewt1017 My dad absolutely hates it lol Same thing with the new Meta AI thing on whatsapp, poor pops was so confused I hate those big corporates that force AI shit no one asked in their perfectly good and working apps
The only reason why they have it so high is that so people don’t complain about all the bloatware soaking up your resources, but even in windows 10 22H2 the bloat is enough to severely impact performance.
Yeah, but the bloatware is still soaking up resources. The higher system requirements just compensate for that. The real solution it to stop adding in all of the unneeded garbage and telemetry that they have.
Why does goggle think people actually want them to scan everyone's pics and videos in their account thats in the vicinity of you and then try to recommend content that closely resembles something that you or someone near you has saved in their pic or video app or cloud. They are even being malicious by recommending content that is mocking certain aspects about you or what you are going through in your personal life. Say if you had a loss in the family or pet then they will go out of their way to recommend content about that particular family member or animal which only causes more pain for the individual. I'm pretty sure what they are doing constitutes as being against law because the mocking they do also extends to features about your personal appearance like if you're starting to go bald or anything else that would affect your self esteem.
unfortunately thats not solvable without dismantling the data market. data brokers sell private info to advertisers, who will use it - google and other big companies are incentivized to become spyware to get data to sell
Yeah. I am still running XP on all of my machines besides for that one including my main PC. I have absolutely no plans on updating any time soon. When I eventually do, it will probably be to 7. I will NEVER run windows 10 or 11 (or whatever comes next) on any of my main machines.
But with Windows 10 and 11, it is no longer your computer, it is Microsoft's computer. They choose what runs on it and what it does, you just use it. They had to change "my computer" to "this PC" because it isn't your computer anymore.
This video is from like 2010. I thought i was going to look at the comments and see I can’t believe the algorithm recommended me this video from 14 years ago, but no. I see 8 days ago and I’m shocked and i see 480p
My windows computer automatically updated when I was charging it and I’ve never been more pissed. Hey, here’s an update. Remind me later. Schedule. Snooze. No? What do you mean no? You’re going to install it.
i remember windows 10 basically just kicking me out of programs just to tell me that i have to install some meaningless update, which also got me killed in games which was very annoying, thankfully they stopped doing this, somewhat newer story, i was installing a program 2 days ago (it was about 60% done) and i left my room for 5 mins to get something, i came back and windows just restarted to install some useless update which corrupted the whole install and took me about 20 min to fix and install again if it weren't for end of life and support stuff i would still be on win xp/7, my old pc and laptop have them installed, win10 has COMPLETELY killed any ounce of performance of my old laptop, takes ages to literally do anything which took 1/10th of the time on win 7 I don't feel like using linux, mostly because the community is just 90% toxic "err i use linux and everyone on the internet should think that im a genius" and the other 10% are cool peeps and server owners, the other things being that some programs i use dont work on there and the alternatives arent "just as good" + you have to do many loopholes, performance can be worse in some places and i dont want to get used to new operating system, i dont know why some linux fanboys say that everyone s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ *WILL* move to linux in the future or whatever
Yeah, the Linux community is one of the main reasons why I am not using Linux. As a concept, I like it; but in practice and with the community around it, I don't like it one bit.
I like how you mentioned that people aren't gonna start flocking to Linux anytime soon. Linux isn't a viable option for everyone, it's not as easy as pressing a button to install it. While there have been efforts to make Linux more user-friendly, it's got a long way to go before the masses can start using it.
I use windows 10 LTSC 2021 No bloat nor bulshit from microsoft Suport until 2032 only security updates Microsoft dgaf for consumers nor electronical waste My setup is: Core 2 duo E7500 @3.33ghz 8gb DDR2 4x2 8400GS 512mb Itautec mobo 120gb ssd + 1tb hdd
Windows, windows, windows. This somehow reminds me of a company in charge of creating vinyls for some artists about late last year to early this year, when playing the song into the presser machine, it played the "hehe you cant fucking do that because a dialog is open" and it became a part of the final vinyls...
I feel the same way. The software bloat is real and a huge problem. Developers just use the extra computational power to cut more corners instead of making better software, it’s a huge shame. So many computers could still be alive and usable today.
what really gets me is that even after support "ends" for windows 10, MS will likely still release an emergency security update if there's a big enough exploit found, like whats happened to XP before for eternalblue and remote desktop services.
Gotta love Microsoft's e-waste initiative. There's no point tor most people to keep buying new computers, so Microsoft needs to arbitrarily limit old PCs even though they work fine.
It’s almost like the biggest companies make the worst crap :) but seriously tho, I have an i7 6700k a 1080ti and 32gb of ram and even if I wanted to upgrade to windows 11 it complains about tpm issues, like seriously.. and the motherboard I have is pretty beefy too.
Yep. Meanwhile I can go out an buy a brand new laptop with an intel Celeron (2 cores, 2 threads,) 4gb RAM, and garbage flash storage, and that comes pre-loaded and is fully supported by Windows 11. Absolute nonsense.
Yeah, and fricking Intel decided to make so many generations have only one compatible chipset generation, so you couldn’t upgrade your perfectly capable pc even if you wanted
I agree with you on almost all of this. I also really hate this AI slop they're trying to shove down our throats. However, I have used Core 2 Duo systems on very light operating systems for very basic tasks, even with an SSD, and they just can't seem to keep up, so I think first gen Intel Core is the oldest I could use for basic tasks.
I guess it depends on your definition of “basic tasks.” My main laptop is a Dell Latitude D630 with a core 2 duo, and I use if for “basic tasks,” and it is fine, not even slow with an SSD. The most intensive thing I do is watching UA-cam, which it does 1080p full screen with no issues.
@@WalterKnox I've been steering people away from wasting hundreds of dollars on brand new junk machines, and telling them to buy used hardware. 95% of the time, a 12 year old ThinkPad T420 is MORE than enough for daily tasks, even more than basic tasks. Companies are trying to get people to buy only new hardware and it's sadly working.
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Dear Microsoft, its Never. Not 'Remind Me Later', Never
11:25 Imagine needing all that processor power and RAM to play music, when the 133Mhz Pentium I had in the mid to late 1990s had no problem playing MP3 files using only Windows 95, 16MB of RAM, and WinAMP. I'd look into using anything that can run in Linux, including perhaps that program running in Linux+WINE.
i’ve gotten 3 or so similar messages within the past month. my pc fully supports 11 but i refuse to upgrade to it. i used it for maybe 3 days when it launched before i reverted back to 10 and haven’t touched it since.
Yeah, I don't really use Windows 10 for anything, this one PC and one other one which are both for dedicated uses are the only ones. I am sure there were more which I didn't notice, because I only ever interact with that machine when it is having an issue.
Even if you don't support them, yo ho ho, you're still doomed to using their garbage if you dare call yourself a modern gamer. Glad to see linux getting better at this stuff but we're still not there yet.
Windows is full of BS about their required specs. I currently have Win 11 running on an 1100MHz Pentium and 4GB ram (even with all the bloat). Runs perfectly fine. Microsoft is probably just in bed with the computer manufacturers so that people buy new (high-spec) computers every 2 years.
Nothing like a billion dollar company with no concept of pricing telling you that you should upgrade or die. If you don't want to or outright can't buy a new computer to keep up with their stupid demands it's a flaw with you apparently.
I’m so used to people working and computing within limits and constraint - it made people extremely efficient with code and software etc.; and often think outside the box on ways to “get the most of” memory etc. We are truly spoilt with our absolutely insane memory availabilities and hard-drive sizes. For me, computing never changed, so I still use a laptop from 2003. I see no need to keep adopting ever-increasing (and with price as well) computing requirements. The operating systems and software nowadays are pathetically un-optimized and sloppy. And don’t even bring up “subscription” software, bah! Absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah. I am right there with you. My main laptop up until July of this year was a Dell Latitude D610 from 2005. It was a tank, I used it on a daily basis and carried it everywhere with me for 10 years, I got it in 2014. Aside from a new battery, hard drive, and putting some more RAM in it, it never gave me a single issue. Very easy to upgrade and work on unlike disposable garbage today. Sadly, the motherboard in that machine failed around July of this year. I am now using a Latitude D630 from 2007, which is a core 2 duo machine. I have 4gb RAM in it, and it runs Windows XP. It is really overkill for what I use a laptop for, but it works well and is still a great serviceable machine. These days, all software is poorly optimized and requires a ton of resources to do basically the same things old versions did. They have the resources to compensate on newer machines, which are more powerful than what anyone really needs, so they don't have to optimize things and make them efficient anymore. It is quite sad, and it is forcing older machines to become "obsolete" even though they are still fully capable if it weren't for the poorly written, buggy, inefficient software. Of course, many people like you and myself just ignore it and keep using old stuff and have no issues, but the general public won't do that, so it creates a mountain of perfectly functional hardware going into the trash.
I agree wholeheartedly with this video. Microsoft of course supports the clique of PC manufacturers and get extra cash out of the enterprise side of things. It will work, and will get them millions more as businesses are forced to get new computers as they aren't allowed to install Linux. And so, Windows 11 is the worst version of Windows for generating the most e-waste by blocking HARDWARE. Not just driver compatibility now.
I installed windows 11 on my hp Elitebook from 2010 with a Dual core I5 with an ssd, and it runs so much better then a celery potato they try to sell you.
Yeah, that is the absurd part. I can't install Windows 11 (without hacking around the requirements) on my OptiPlex with a 7th generation i7, 16gb RAM, and an NVMe SSD, but I can go out and buy a brand new laptop with a dual core 2 thread Celeron, 4gb RAM, and crappy flash storage, and it comes pre-loaded and is fully supported with Windows 11. I have systems from 2007 which are more powerful than that.
@@WalterKnox5th gen-7th gen and amd ryzen 1000 series pc owners are unfortunate. They could have run win11 fine but Microsoft had decided to say 'we do not care' to those people
Microsoft is a literal joke with the way they try to force the latest Windows on it's users. I cannot stand Windows 11 anymore, and I have downgraded all my Windows 11 PCs to Windows 10 and plan to keep using Windows 10 even long after the October 2025 deadline.
I'm sticking with Windows 10 LTSC till the very end. I'm not sure what version I have, it's apparently 21H2 (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean). I tried Linux many times and while there are lot of things I like about it, I still decided that it's just not for me.
This must’ve been what truly sent AM into a violent rage destroying humanity and creating a dystopia. It got tired of installing Windows updates and being forced to get new ones.
Well, the thing is with Windows XP and 7, MOST people did upgrade before or by time support ended, so the incentive for hackers to want to infect them was just not there as the user base was not that large. With Windows 10, it is a bit different, because most people can't just upgrade without buying a whole new machine, and I imagine a lot of people simply won't upgrade. If the majority of people (or a large amount of people) do not upgrade, there is a much larger incentive for hackers to exploit it, because there are many more users. Most people using XP or 7 still these days know what they are doing, so they won't have an issue. But for Windows 10, that may not be the case, and Especially if the people using it are all morons, there is a good chance they will get infected.
So true. Windows 8.1 was the last Windows without the bloatware. It was basically Windows 7 with a new start menu. It launched on my old PC in 5 seconds without the fast boot... I miss its speed so much. Windows 10 runs a lot slower on the same setup, but I was forced to upgrade by one game developer, unfortunately. On Windows 10, everything is more sluggish. I have to wait for the explorer window to show up; when on W8.1, it was instantaneous. Upgrade is just forced to make you buy new hardware, and that is a fact... Technology advances much slower than when we were entering the millenium. Greetings from Poland! ❤❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Nice setup and I love how this video seems like it is from the late 2000s or early 2010s even though it is from 2 days before typing this comment. Definitely nostalgic of some videos I watched when I was younger. Edit: I also 100% wholeheartedly agree with you on Microsoft's crap, I am currently using a 12 year old ThinkPad T430 which at the moment has an i7-3520QM and 16 gigs of RAM that ran Windows 10 when I got it but because that is ending support soon and due to how poorly Microsoft designed Windows 11 and even 10 to an extent in itself, I just moved on to Linux Mint which I am aware some people cannot do very simply but it also depends on what you are doing with a computer whether it is basic web browsing or full-on programming. For anyone just doing basic web browsing or even just playing some Steam games, it should be a much better change and it can definitely save computers from e-waste if you are trying to preserve machines that are 10 years old or so. And even 12 years later, I believe an Ivy Bridge 3rd Gen i7 and 16 gigs of RAM should be more than enough for people to do what they need it to do in most situations so in that case, why in the hell would it need to be upgraded if it works perfectly fine as it is and if I could upgrade it later?
Yeah, that is the thing. Linux is okay for basic stuff, but if you do a bunch of other stuff and use a bunch of offline programs (a good bit of my PC use is offline programs,) it really isn't that simple. Wine works for some things, but it is rather buggy for many, and while there are alternatives for some things, they just aren't as good a lot of the time. There is no reason that a standard user who does nothing but web browsing, social media, and maybe watches UA-cam on the computer should need an 8th gen or newer CPU. My main machine which I am typing this out on has a Xeon from the core 2 era. I could do pretty much everything I needed to do on a computer on a core 2 duo, and so could most standard PC users if it weren't for poorly optimized, over bloated modern software.
@@WalterKnox Agreed. Software is another thing that limits older processors and even basic web browsing could challenge a Core 2 Duo because of the code and features people change all the time. For example, I don't know about your Core 2 Duo but the Centrino Duo in my old T60 widescreen model really struggles with modern UA-cam video playback especially at 720p or higher and it would definitely struggle with multitasking meaning it would most likely perform horrendously if multiple tabs are opened or if multiple programs are running.
This Thanksgiving week was absolutely wonderful! My wife, Emily, and I took our son, Lucas, to my family home for the holiday, and it was an unforgettable experience. The house was filled with warmth, laughter, and the delicious aroma of traditional Thanksgiving dishes. Lucas and I had so much fun together-we played football in the yard, worked on a puzzle by the fireplace, and even snuck an extra slice of pumpkin pie when no one was looking. Emily enjoyed catching up with my parents and siblings, and we all shared stories, laughs, and memories around the dinner table. It was the perfect balance of family, fun, and gratitude, making it one of the best Thanksgiving weeks we’ve ever had.
Nice Billy Trew impersonation. I know you aren't the same person though, you are just that, an imitator. The real person behind Billy Trew and Michael Porter uses very specific grammar and punctuation which you do not.
There has to be a way to shut off those ads from the registry, it behaves a lot like the bs splash screen that pops out when you dont link an account on a new installation. I think it was called windows 10 lets finish setting up your pc disable registry. It has a regedit key that can be disabled, so should the advert version
@@WalterKnox It is a difference between gigabytes and gibibytes that people don't really talk about as people tend to call both of them just "gigabytes." (Thanks to Microsoft for the most part) Gigabytes are base-1000 and gibibytes are base-1024, so technically, the requirements that you were reading may call for 128 GiB - 1 TiB rather than 128 GB - 1 TB. EDIT: I did a bit more research, and it seems even MORE confusing as I just read that someone had a 512 GB (gigabyte) drive, translating to roughly 476.84 GiB. What in the hell?
they're multiples of 32 because of the NAND storage chips held within the ssd some chips are a pinch smaller which give the 500GB even on an SSD,. 512GB SSDs used to be 16 256Gb nand chips but you'll usually find it spread across 1 or 2 which would be 2048Gb or 4096Gb per chip
I had an i7 7700k and Windows was Like oh sorry this CPU does Not Support Windows 11 and then they gave me an add for a Intel Atom PC with a worse CPU which will my 7700k laugh about
love the whole atmosphere of this viedo, looks like something from a decade ago and i honestly really liked it! btw if you can't upgrade your computers to w11 just use linux
As mentioned in the video; this machines is the only machine I own running Windows 10 and it performs one dedicated task. All of my main machines run XP and I have zero issues. Everyone always says "just switch to linux" but it isn't that simple, and I have been hearing that on almost a daily basis for over a decade now.
24h2 now will physically not install on anything that dies not have sse4 instruction set so i had to uninstall it from my core 2 quad system. It ran quite well after debloating. Maybe if they wouldnt include all this proprietary junk they could lower the requirements but nope!
@@PricklyPineapplesProductions I really think they changed the compiler flags, because Redhat 9 won't run on C2D/Q anymore. Same instruction - POPCNT of the SSE4.2 set.
For an average person, a used laptop from eBay is more then enough. Kinda like getting a used car. It works for, well basic work. Gamers whatever,thats your problem and realistically work pcs have been perfected.
Gamers are completely off my radar. A used Latitude or something like that is a great option. You can get a great deal on a machine in very good condition, because companies are constantly upgrading perfectly fine machines; usually on a 4 year basis, so 2021 model business grade laptops and desktops are about to flood the market, and will make a much better machine than a cheap "consumer grade" machine would at the same price point, or even higher. That is what we do at work, we buy lots of retired office PCs from surplus auctions, we refurbish some of them and sell them as functioning machines, and we sell the parts from some of them. If you buy one directly, no HDD, RAM, or OS, you can get a GREAT deal one one.
I honesty agree with everything he says. Not only do we not need those bullshit, superfluous updates, but they also clog up our shit. Big corporations offload the optimization on to the buyer. They can’t be patient and make quality software that works fast, so they make us buy new components
I like staying up to date on my tech and have a pretty good machine to play around with. I still don't want to use their shit OS. Once a month or so they'll pester me about enabling TPM and using their garbage tablet OS. I was pissed enough moving from 7 to 10, I just don't feel like doing the next leap. I'm enough of a fat, sweaty nerd to use Linux, I just don't feel like it. I want an OS that works and keeps working, why is that so much to ask?
I am the same was as far as Linux goes. I can use it, it isn't that I lack the ability to; and I learn new things pretty fast when I feel like it. I just have no desire to do so. I want something that works as it should with no fiddling; for me at least Windows XP still does that.
Yeah, Linux is not an option or a solution for everyone/everything unlike what most Linux users would want you to believe. as others have mentioned, you may want to try windows 10 iot ltsc which is supported until 2032.
You do realize Celeron is just a name of a line of COUs right? One laptop either a Celeron is not the same as another. If it is a driver issue, the CPU doesn’t matter, the laptop itself matters, so unless it was the same exact model, your point is moot.
4:3 aspect ratio. 480p video. OMG I love it :D What camera you use? Also yeah Windows is getting so annoying. Everytime I update my big PC that is Windows 11 Compatible it tried to hide the "keep windows 10" button by making it as small as possible so you would accidently click the UPGRADE! button thats big and bold and bright enough in hopes you quickly click it out of trying to get out of the screen and "accidently" upgrade to 11. It's so damn annoying especially when I am trying to do stuff like IDK edit a video and quickly come back to it the next day only to be greeted by that exact screen you shown there. Im so closed to pulling the Linux trigger and just finally making the big switch.
Hiding the "don't upgrade" button is nothing. I remember back when Windows 10 first came out, and they installed the nagware on Windows 7 for it's free "upgrade," they would sometimes just upgrade it without you even saying to do so. I had a machine that did that. I left for a week or so, come back and my PC is suddenly running Windows 10.
if you're looking for being able to grab stuff of of the file server without using a flash drive. try using a CAT5E cable and linking the 2 computers (assuming your file server is just a desktop) that should work
My file server is an IBM x3200 eServer. It is linked into my local network; I have at least 10 other desktops and laptops I regularly access it with, so I don’t want to disconnect it. I simply unplugged the network cable from that machine, and using a USB drive to copy a few songs every few months at most really isn’t an issue.
Plus involuntary upgrade in case you have Windows 11 capable machine. Cool video with great info. Quality of camera is not bad, on the contrary, it shows that if it works there is no need to change it, and it might even add so much needed character that all those 4K sloptubers are missing.
I have a Win10 ITX rig as a portable lan party beast that is Win11 compatible. I just nope out of that shit every time I get that pop-up when I turn on the PC... 😂
Last night I managed to get Windows 11 on a ThinkPad T410 with a dual-core i5 first gen and 2GB of RAM. With some de bloating, it runs fine bar some minor hiccups with opening more than one app at a time (but the blame is Microsoft on that one). Proves that their requirements are rubbish. They can have an “ideal requirements” but it doesn’t mean they should be allowed to stop people doing what they want. That’s the thing I hate most about Microsoft nowadays, they want control.
Man, there is an elegance to the simplicity that you operate with. I spend too much time gutting windows 10 and using policies to shut it up and your over here like “I’ll just pull it off the network” 😅 Was not expecting windows xp for a daily driver, kinda surprised. I would have just moved over to mint if I didn’t lock myself into office 365 for business stuff, oh well. (Email services primarily, OneDrive is kinda handy, guilty pleasure to admit). Keep the old stuff alive, better than the landfill, and less telemetry to Microsoft, doing your part.
Yeah. if it were something that internet connectivity was important on, then I may spend more time "fixing" it, but in this case it's one single dedicated task is offline anyway, and the only reason it was connected to the network at all was to transfer music from the file server, which I do maybe once every few months at most; so the easiest solution would be just to unplug the network cable and let that be that. I can just use a flash drive to transfer files if I need to.
Windows 11 is such a slogfest. My workplace started using Win11 on portable OS's for some unlocking software we use, and it's at least HALF as slow as Win10 and unresponsive for the first 3 minutes it's starting up. I told them to switch to 10 for it, and it's snappy as all hell; somehow they were surprised about this.
One thing that I haven't checked in a while that I love using are Win7 extended kernel patches. Not a whole lot of development has been done with them last I checked, but they basically let you use normally Win10 & Win11 exclusive apps on Windows 7. It's my preferred way to use Windows the few times I need it. Never touching Win10 ever again now that I became a Linux user.
I am curious what on Windows 7 you need an extender kernel for? I run XP on all of my main machines, and I rarely run into anything that doesn't work, and on the rare occasion it won't, I just use an older version of the software which generally just works better anyway. The only software that needs to be up to date are ones which need to interact with the internet or a server to work, which changes over time. The only thing that fits that description I use is a web browser, and Supermium is based off of the latest (or a very late) version of Chromium and supports XP natively.
@@WalterKnox It's mainly for newer programs that don't support Windows 7 anymore, or never could to begin with, just like you said. I'd say like 90% of Windows software runs just fine on Windows 7, but that 10% will always catch you off guard, and that's where the extended kernel comes into play. Though, it's not always a guaranteed fix (modern Chrome & Firefox will never work, even with an extended kernel) It's not always necessary to have an extended kernel, you yourself seem to be doing just fine without one, but it's always good to have it on hand just in case you run into the rare Windows 10/11 exclusive app. All I'm saying is give something like VxKex (my favourite Win7 kernel extender) a shot on a spare PC (or hard-drive) running Windows 7, and see if it runs that picky radio app properly. If it doesn't, swap back to your usual setup.
Your vid just popped up on my recommendation feed, this is the type of content I've been looking for, i still uses win 7 to this day with extended kernel and supermium, subbed
I use XP and Supermium myself. Supermium is one of the best things to happen for XP in years. MyPal which was the "newest" browser previously was getting a bit sketchy for many things. Supermium just works as good as modern Chrome. Although I do prefer Firefox over Chrome, I guess I have to be happy with what I have at this point.
I am using play it live. It has to put specific audio files in order automatically, not play the same song or artist for a set amount of time, not loop, and play a radio station jingle every few songs.
Never upgrading to Windows 11. 10 was fine i guess, minus Cortana and privacy concerns, but at least it let me do my own thing. A few months back I switched to Linux Mint and Kubuntu on my two PCs, so i can mainly use Linux and use Win10 for some stubborn games like Roblox, Minecraft Bedrock or Epic Games Store titles. I don't wanna deal with Recall or even more AI features they think I want, that they bring back after I remove them with each update. Hopefully by the time Windows 10 is dropped by Steam and most programs, linux gaming and modding support (most mod managers are windows-only like Vortex) get good enough that even the most anti-linux companies (again, Roblox and Epic) have a way to play their titles on the platform, or at least using Wine.
I like how Microsoft thinks an i9 9900K with 8 cores, 16 threads, with modern branch prediction and caches, running at 5Ghz aside DDR4 memory isn't good enough for their precious operating system, but their main technical gripe, is what, an instruction that was introduced 2 decades ago and could be emulated on trap? They supported Itanium until a few years ago, but they can't ship a branch of Windows for lower bin mobile chips and older desktops? Suuurree. Still not buying the bill gates chip.
Older CPUs, like athlons 2 x4 or Core 2 Quads, were about 20-30% slower in games on win10 than on win7 back in 2015-2016, even before spectre and meltdown patches.
there are ways to use win 11 on a computer that doesnt meet requirements, pretty sure RuFuS has options that will pop up to disable the TPM and other stuff. alot of win11 is bullshit requirements are to do with CPU unfortunately. Windows 10 IoT release is very clean compared to home or pro. also wont require updates until 2030 i think. using that on a hp and works with everything you need.
you can still use low res monitors . 800x600 is avalible without any hacks on win11. SSDs are so cheap now aswell especially used. That music program requiring a 6th gen i7 is crazy as all hell though. I get your point but some of it I just don't get. the system requirements are insane for essentially windows 10.1 though.
I have never actually tried to use it, so I was just going off of what the website said. The system requirements are insane. There is no reason why it should have to have an SSD, or that much storage space. Yes, an SSD is cheap and provides a much better experience; but a properly written, well optimized operating system can run on a mechanical drive just fine, Windows 10 (and 11) are not, and don't run well on them because of it. There is no reason a standard PC user should have to have anything more than a core 2 duo and 2-4gb RAM.
I have a 2014 Mac Mini with the i5-4278U and 8GB of RAM with Debian 12 Cinnamon, and that is OVERKILL for office work. I wish it had better graphics, but the Iris 5100 is more than good enough for playing Sonic 3 (1997) and Yosuganosora (2008).
@@WalterKnoxI'd still use my Pentium III 733 with a 250GB HDD but the capacitors blew up and killed the board (tops didn't puff, the bottoms of the caps rotted and leaked). Windows 2003 was the last good Windows, and Windows XP 2003/XP version 2002 is just 2000 skinned over, and Vista+ is XP that's skinned over even more!
@@WalterKnox Actually, that program might be using instructions that were introduced in the 6th generation of Intel Core processors. Windows 11 now requires SSE4.2 to boot, which leaves the Core 2 Duo out. But the 1st gen Core CPUs and any CPUs derived from those designs can run Win11 and newer.
Coincidentally, Microsoft recently went back on their TPM requirement for Win11, presumably because they don’t want to have to keep pushing back EOL for enterprise PCs. I recommend using a Windows for IoT image if you do update. Strips out a lot of bullshit. Or just drop Windows altogether, if you can, since Microsoft isn’t gonna stop being hot garbage anytime soon.
That would work, but this is the only computer I have running Windows 10 anyway, and it only performs this one specific task and nothing else. I already have it all set up, which took a good while, so I don't really want to have to re do everything. Since it is not online anyway, I just unplugged the network cable so it will quit annoying me with this nonsense.
@@WalterKnox Fair enough, I get where you're coming from. I'm fed up with Microsoft constantly forcing annoying sh*t on their customers too. They're so many things they could actually be improving upon, but they're only capable of thinking about profit nowadays. 0 thought goes into the actual user experience. U WILL NEVER EVER CATCH ME USING WINDOWS 11.
i cant wait for october 2025 to see how many people will switch to linux, i do hope i can stay with 10 for a couple more decades but it just seems unrealistic windows 10 is just the definitive version of windows and i have no problem with it aside from the lack of aero
this video feels like it's from 2008 and yet it's from 2024
ok
@@WalterKnox what camera do u use
More Like The 1930s
Ah yes, talking about computers and recording full digital color video and uploading it to the internet... brings me right back to the 30s.
@@WalterKnox That's a good thing
Microsoft's motto: If it ain't broke, "fix it" 'til it is!
That seems to be a lot of tech companies attitude... cough cough UA-cam.
@@WalterKnox thats what happens when software development becomes a salary job instead of a contracting style arangement. security and tech support makes sense. but what else would all those developers do all year if they weren't pushing out usless garbage features. i feel for you man
Windows 11's system requirements are absolutely fucking mental
i use a Pentium D on Windows Vista for EVERYTHING and my PC has somehow not exploded and paralysed me like Microsoft keeps insisting will happen to Windows 10 users
Yep. I still have many machines running XP and Pentium 4 CPUs, which perform their tasks great. My main machine is from the core 2 era and runs XP and does everything I need it to do.
A standard PC user who just does web browsing, social media, shopping, and maybe some UA-cam watching can get by just fine with a core 2 duo aside from poorly optimized, over bloated modern software.
Unfortunately browsers are bloated and poorly optimized.
Amazing that you are still using vista
@@livingipod2 Vista was the first Windows computer I had. I kinda miss it in a way. Windows 7 was peak, but Vista has a special place in my heart for being the first. Before that I mostly used old Macs, which I also miss. Need to get me one of those old colorful CRT macs, those were awesome.
@@juliawolf156 Keep in mind that its not completely the browser's fault. Many websites themselves are unoptimized as well
Windows 11 is literally just a cheap reskin of Windows 10.
I installed it when it first came out and there were many instances where it called itself "Windows 10" in places like regedit.
Damn
The same applies to Windows 10 (which is basically Windows 7 with a fancy skin). Once you dig a little deeper, you find settings from Windows 7.
Windows 11 is just NT 3 with a fancy skin
Fun fact: Remember when Microsoft said Windows 10 was going to be the last operating system with never ending security updates all the way back in 2015. Lol yeah time flies when you're having fun.
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These companies don't care about e waste they only care about selling their products.
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Billions must return to Windows XP
@@andymorin91632k all the way
Never left. Posting from XP machine. )
@@olexanderkidenko4423are you using supermium?
I run 98 rn
Modern games don't work on it.
I modified a Windows10 installation so that it would NEVER update! I've been using it for several years on all computers and I can go quietly on the ass of all the crap Microsoft can come up with. My systems have never caught a virus, I've never had telematics attacks, I've never had to reinstall anything.
I really like this video that seems to come from UA-cam's past.
You are one of the few computer users out there who is actually knowledgeable. Almost every single point you made is true. I wish there would be more computer users out there who know that most “obsolescence” is just an illusion.
dude your setup is so sick
Eh... I don't know about that, it is just a bunch of cheap/free decade old hardware held together with hopes and dreams. It does pretty well for what it is though.
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@@WalterKnox well i made a macbook pro from 2009 run monterey, which came out in late 2021. And it runs it pretty well. Some upgrading, patience and elbow grease and it does the job, hence why i appreciate your setup
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@@WalterKnox I like your style. That's basically what I do.
Oh yeah, and the fact that they force install Copilot on the already-bad-enough Windows 10.
yeeep… though at least you can uninstall most of copilot natively through apps and features on win10, unlike on 11 where it has the msedge syndrome of for some zombiebrained decision being a goddamn dependency of the goddamn file explorer
Yikes. I feel ya. Just had to walk my 60 year old dad through getting the new AI bloat removed on his laptop he's had since 2015. Thank god for regedit
I had no idea Microsoft force installed that AI bs on my 2020 Lenovo. I just uninstalled it. Thanks for telling me. They keep pushing me to go to 11 and I keep telling them to go frick themselves, and my laptop has been working fine for over a year that its been recomending this Orwellian crap. Its sluggish sometimes but otherwise its fine. Maybe it was CoPilot doing it! Uninstalled now, good riddance. I am not a big AI fan.
@lukewt1017 My dad absolutely hates it lol
Same thing with the new Meta AI thing on whatsapp, poor pops was so confused
I hate those big corporates that force AI shit no one asked in their perfectly good and working apps
The only reason why they have it so high is that so people don’t complain about all the bloatware soaking up your resources, but even in windows 10 22H2 the bloat is enough to severely impact performance.
Yeah, but the bloatware is still soaking up resources. The higher system requirements just compensate for that. The real solution it to stop adding in all of the unneeded garbage and telemetry that they have.
@ precisely. It compensates enough to make normal people think their hardware is just slow and not the fault of the OS.
correct.
The fact that YT put its new forced blue comment feature on the word bloatw are (spaced to avoid search comment from scanning) is ironic
For real
Why does goggle think people actually want them to scan everyone's pics and videos in their account thats in the vicinity of you and then try to recommend content that closely resembles something that you or someone near you has saved in their pic or video app or cloud. They are even being malicious by recommending content that is mocking certain aspects about you or what you are going through in your personal life. Say if you had a loss in the family or pet then they will go out of their way to recommend content about that particular family member or animal which only causes more pain for the individual. I'm pretty sure what they are doing constitutes as being against law because the mocking they do also extends to features about your personal appearance like if you're starting to go bald or anything else that would affect your self esteem.
unfortunately thats not solvable without dismantling the data market.
data brokers sell private info to advertisers, who will use it - google and other big companies are incentivized to become spyware to get data to sell
I like this style of videos. Feels like 2000s nostalgia. New subscription added👍
This is why Microsoft needs proper competition, I wish Linux was capable of running the programs I need it to run. Until then I'm stuck using Windows.
dualboot? that’s my next move
Just out of curiosity, what software you need to run doesnt work?
Get a 2012 macbook. It's upgradable, will cost you 100$ to improve the hardware, and it'll run better than any machine running Windows 10/11.
Important to note that that's not the fault of Linux, that's the fault of your programs.
do you not have alternatives?
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY still rocking windows 7 since ik microshaft doesnt like it
Yeah. I am still running XP on all of my machines besides for that one including my main PC. I have absolutely no plans on updating any time soon. When I eventually do, it will probably be to 7. I will NEVER run windows 10 or 11 (or whatever comes next) on any of my main machines.
"My Computer" > "This PC"
But with Windows 10 and 11, it is no longer your computer, it is Microsoft's computer. They choose what runs on it and what it does, you just use it. They had to change "my computer" to "this PC" because it isn't your computer anymore.
@@MrEdrftgyujiControl Panel > Settings
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This is the type of videos I want on my main feed. No bullshit, no going around the topic and going out of it, and very very satisfying to watch.
i thought this video was from 2012 lol, but it was made 2 days ago! WOW!
ok.
@@WalterKnox i'm kinda impressed you managed to fit 2012 quality
The camera is from 2007, and it was edited on software from the early 2010s.
thats what i said :D
@toastedstuff Windows 10 wasn’t even in development in 2012, and Windows 8 was still brand new.
This video is from like 2010. I thought i was going to look at the comments and see I can’t believe the algorithm recommended me this video from 14 years ago, but no. I see 8 days ago and I’m shocked and i see 480p
480p the way god intended it
This feels like a alternate universe vwestlife video
As a fan of vwestlife, I am going to take that as a compliment.
@ it’s the prefect chill simple video no sponsor ships or any other bullshit just real content
My windows computer automatically updated when I was charging it and I’ve never been more pissed.
Hey, here’s an update. Remind me later. Schedule. Snooze. No? What do you mean no? You’re going to install it.
i remember windows 10 basically just kicking me out of programs just to tell me that i have to install some meaningless update, which also got me killed in games which was very annoying, thankfully they stopped doing this, somewhat
newer story, i was installing a program 2 days ago (it was about 60% done) and i left my room for 5 mins to get something, i came back and windows just restarted to install some useless update which corrupted the whole install and took me about 20 min to fix and install again
if it weren't for end of life and support stuff i would still be on win xp/7, my old pc and laptop have them installed, win10 has COMPLETELY killed any ounce of performance of my old laptop, takes ages to literally do anything which took 1/10th of the time on win 7
I don't feel like using linux, mostly because the community is just 90% toxic "err i use linux and everyone on the internet should think that im a genius" and the other 10% are cool peeps and server owners, the other things being that some programs i use dont work on there and the alternatives arent "just as good" + you have to do many loopholes, performance can be worse in some places and i dont want to get used to new operating system, i dont know why some linux fanboys say that everyone s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ *WILL* move to linux in the future or whatever
Yeah, the Linux community is one of the main reasons why I am not using Linux. As a concept, I like it; but in practice and with the community around it, I don't like it one bit.
I just use Windows 10 IoT LTSC. It gets security updates until 2032 and is fast as hell.
When 2031 hits I'll move to Windows 11.
I like how you mentioned that people aren't gonna start flocking to Linux anytime soon. Linux isn't a viable option for everyone, it's not as easy as pressing a button to install it. While there have been efforts to make Linux more user-friendly, it's got a long way to go before the masses can start using it.
I use windows 10 LTSC 2021
No bloat nor bulshit from microsoft
Suport until 2032 only security updates
Microsoft dgaf for consumers nor electronical waste
My setup is:
Core 2 duo E7500 @3.33ghz
8gb DDR2 4x2
8400GS 512mb
Itautec mobo
120gb ssd + 1tb hdd
I thought it ended support in '27? or do security updates go on further?
@@TheBrick517 there is IoT version which is different
Damn, surprised ms has such good support
Jan 12 2027 is end of support for Windows 10 LTSC 2021
Jan 13 2032 is end of support for Windows 10 IOT LTSC 2021
@@Lord-Sméagol And the difference between the two is just a different (GVLK) key lol
Windows, windows, windows.
This somehow reminds me of a company in charge of creating vinyls for some artists about late last year to early this year, when playing the song into the presser machine, it played the "hehe you cant fucking do that because a dialog is open" and it became a part of the final vinyls...
This is super interesting, I haven't ever heard of this, do you know where I could read more about that?
Bro can't stop preaching the truth. Subscribed.
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I feel the same way. The software bloat is real and a huge problem. Developers just use the extra computational power to cut more corners instead of making better software, it’s a huge shame. So many computers could still be alive and usable today.
what really gets me is that even after support "ends" for windows 10, MS will likely still release an emergency security update if there's a big enough exploit found, like whats happened to XP before for eternalblue and remote desktop services.
Gotta love Microsoft's e-waste initiative. There's no point tor most people to keep buying new computers, so Microsoft needs to arbitrarily limit old PCs even though they work fine.
It’s almost like the biggest companies make the worst crap :) but seriously tho, I have an i7 6700k a 1080ti and 32gb of ram and even if I wanted to upgrade to windows 11 it complains about tpm issues, like seriously.. and the motherboard I have is pretty beefy too.
Yep. Meanwhile I can go out an buy a brand new laptop with an intel Celeron (2 cores, 2 threads,) 4gb RAM, and garbage flash storage, and that comes pre-loaded and is fully supported by Windows 11. Absolute nonsense.
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Yeah, and fricking Intel decided to make so many generations have only one compatible chipset generation, so you couldn’t upgrade your perfectly capable pc even if you wanted
You can use Rufus to flash the Windows iso so it won't require TPM
This reminds me of classic UA-cam and the similar types of videos you would see back in the day. Awesome stuff.
its funny as fuck that you have xp on a curved monitor and win10 on a beige square
XP is much more deserving of a larger, more usable screen.
I agree with you on almost all of this. I also really hate this AI slop they're trying to shove down our throats. However, I have used Core 2 Duo systems on very light operating systems for very basic tasks, even with an SSD, and they just can't seem to keep up, so I think first gen Intel Core is the oldest I could use for basic tasks.
I guess it depends on your definition of “basic tasks.” My main laptop is a Dell Latitude D630 with a core 2 duo, and I use if for “basic tasks,” and it is fine, not even slow with an SSD. The most intensive thing I do is watching UA-cam, which it does 1080p full screen with no issues.
@@WalterKnox I've been steering people away from wasting hundreds of dollars on brand new junk machines, and telling them to buy used hardware. 95% of the time, a 12 year old ThinkPad T420 is MORE than enough for daily tasks, even more than basic tasks. Companies are trying to get people to buy only new hardware and it's sadly working.
Dear Microsoft, its Never. Not 'Remind Me Later', Never
11:25 Imagine needing all that processor power and RAM to play music, when the 133Mhz Pentium I had in the mid to late 1990s had no problem playing MP3 files using only Windows 95, 16MB of RAM, and WinAMP.
I'd look into using anything that can run in Linux, including perhaps that program running in Linux+WINE.
i’ve gotten 3 or so similar messages within the past month. my pc fully supports 11 but i refuse to upgrade to it. i used it for maybe 3 days when it launched before i reverted back to 10 and haven’t touched it since.
Yeah, I don't really use Windows 10 for anything, this one PC and one other one which are both for dedicated uses are the only ones. I am sure there were more which I didn't notice, because I only ever interact with that machine when it is having an issue.
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God bless you in these odd times
This is the biggest reason that i avoid supporting Microsoft as a company
Even if you don't support them, yo ho ho, you're still doomed to using their garbage if you dare call yourself a modern gamer. Glad to see linux getting better at this stuff but we're still not there yet.
@@FreddisredOnce more games can run on Linux I’m instantly switching. Or if Valve drops an OS. Either one.
Windows is full of BS about their required specs. I currently have Win 11 running on an 1100MHz Pentium and 4GB ram (even with all the bloat). Runs perfectly fine. Microsoft is probably just in bed with the computer manufacturers so that people buy new (high-spec) computers every 2 years.
I have a cheapo Lenovo I got for $120 brand new. 4gb of ram and runs 11 pretty smoothly. They just really love their Ewaste!
Nothing like a billion dollar company with no concept of pricing telling you that you should upgrade or die. If you don't want to or outright can't buy a new computer to keep up with their stupid demands it's a flaw with you apparently.
I’m so used to people working and computing within limits and constraint - it made people extremely efficient with code and software etc.; and often think outside the box on ways to “get the most of” memory etc. We are truly spoilt with our absolutely insane memory availabilities and hard-drive sizes. For me, computing never changed, so I still use a laptop from 2003. I see no need to keep adopting ever-increasing (and with price as well) computing requirements. The operating systems and software nowadays are pathetically un-optimized and sloppy. And don’t even bring up “subscription” software, bah! Absolutely ridiculous.
Yeah. I am right there with you. My main laptop up until July of this year was a Dell Latitude D610 from 2005. It was a tank, I used it on a daily basis and carried it everywhere with me for 10 years, I got it in 2014. Aside from a new battery, hard drive, and putting some more RAM in it, it never gave me a single issue. Very easy to upgrade and work on unlike disposable garbage today. Sadly, the motherboard in that machine failed around July of this year. I am now using a Latitude D630 from 2007, which is a core 2 duo machine. I have 4gb RAM in it, and it runs Windows XP. It is really overkill for what I use a laptop for, but it works well and is still a great serviceable machine.
These days, all software is poorly optimized and requires a ton of resources to do basically the same things old versions did. They have the resources to compensate on newer machines, which are more powerful than what anyone really needs, so they don't have to optimize things and make them efficient anymore. It is quite sad, and it is forcing older machines to become "obsolete" even though they are still fully capable if it weren't for the poorly written, buggy, inefficient software. Of course, many people like you and myself just ignore it and keep using old stuff and have no issues, but the general public won't do that, so it creates a mountain of perfectly functional hardware going into the trash.
"If there's no limits, you're doomed for failure."
My main computer also uses 4GB of RAM, running Windows 7. Microsoft nowadays has extremely high standards when that’s completely unnecessary!
Using 7 but with 7960x TR and 64gigs of ram
I have a "free" copy of 10 enterprise N and they didnt bother me with an upgrade message
same
How did you get it for free?
I agree wholeheartedly with this video. Microsoft of course supports the clique of PC manufacturers and get extra cash out of the enterprise side of things. It will work, and will get them millions more as businesses are forced to get new computers as they aren't allowed to install Linux. And so, Windows 11 is the worst version of Windows for generating the most e-waste by blocking HARDWARE. Not just driver compatibility now.
I installed windows 11 on my hp Elitebook from 2010 with a Dual core I5 with an ssd, and it runs so much better then a celery potato they try to sell you.
Yeah, that is the absurd part. I can't install Windows 11 (without hacking around the requirements) on my OptiPlex with a 7th generation i7, 16gb RAM, and an NVMe SSD, but I can go out and buy a brand new laptop with a dual core 2 thread Celeron, 4gb RAM, and crappy flash storage, and it comes pre-loaded and is fully supported with Windows 11.
I have systems from 2007 which are more powerful than that.
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@@WalterKnox5th gen-7th gen and amd ryzen 1000 series pc owners are unfortunate. They could have run win11 fine but Microsoft had decided to say 'we do not care' to those people
@@WalterKnox Yeah I was given a laptop with basically those specs and I had to install linux to make it actually usable and it STILL sucks.
@@michaelporter4926 scatman
Microsoft is a literal joke with the way they try to force the latest Windows on it's users. I cannot stand Windows 11 anymore, and I have downgraded all my Windows 11 PCs to Windows 10 and plan to keep using Windows 10 even long after the October 2025 deadline.
I'm sticking with Windows 10 LTSC till the very end. I'm not sure what version I have, it's apparently 21H2 (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean). I tried Linux many times and while there are lot of things I like about it, I still decided that it's just not for me.
This must’ve been what truly sent AM into a violent rage destroying humanity and creating a dystopia. It got tired of installing Windows updates and being forced to get new ones.
I can already foresee the fearmongering about to happen by the time Windows 10 does lose support... Sheesh, some people...
Well, the thing is with Windows XP and 7, MOST people did upgrade before or by time support ended, so the incentive for hackers to want to infect them was just not there as the user base was not that large.
With Windows 10, it is a bit different, because most people can't just upgrade without buying a whole new machine, and I imagine a lot of people simply won't upgrade. If the majority of people (or a large amount of people) do not upgrade, there is a much larger incentive for hackers to exploit it, because there are many more users.
Most people using XP or 7 still these days know what they are doing, so they won't have an issue. But for Windows 10, that may not be the case, and Especially if the people using it are all morons, there is a good chance they will get infected.
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What the actual fuck michael?
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So true. Windows 8.1 was the last Windows without the bloatware. It was basically Windows 7 with a new start menu. It launched on my old PC in 5 seconds without the fast boot... I miss its speed so much. Windows 10 runs a lot slower on the same setup, but I was forced to upgrade by one game developer, unfortunately. On Windows 10, everything is more sluggish. I have to wait for the explorer window to show up; when on W8.1, it was instantaneous. Upgrade is just forced to make you buy new hardware, and that is a fact... Technology advances much slower than when we were entering the millenium. Greetings from Poland! ❤❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I saw that Win11 update screen and ALT+F4'd the hell out of there.
Nice setup and I love how this video seems like it is from the late 2000s or early 2010s even though it is from 2 days before typing this comment. Definitely nostalgic of some videos I watched when I was younger.
Edit: I also 100% wholeheartedly agree with you on Microsoft's crap, I am currently using a 12 year old ThinkPad T430 which at the moment has an i7-3520QM and 16 gigs of RAM that ran Windows 10 when I got it but because that is ending support soon and due to how poorly Microsoft designed Windows 11 and even 10 to an extent in itself, I just moved on to Linux Mint which I am aware some people cannot do very simply but it also depends on what you are doing with a computer whether it is basic web browsing or full-on programming. For anyone just doing basic web browsing or even just playing some Steam games, it should be a much better change and it can definitely save computers from e-waste if you are trying to preserve machines that are 10 years old or so. And even 12 years later, I believe an Ivy Bridge 3rd Gen i7 and 16 gigs of RAM should be more than enough for people to do what they need it to do in most situations so in that case, why in the hell would it need to be upgraded if it works perfectly fine as it is and if I could upgrade it later?
Yeah, that is the thing. Linux is okay for basic stuff, but if you do a bunch of other stuff and use a bunch of offline programs (a good bit of my PC use is offline programs,) it really isn't that simple. Wine works for some things, but it is rather buggy for many, and while there are alternatives for some things, they just aren't as good a lot of the time.
There is no reason that a standard user who does nothing but web browsing, social media, and maybe watches UA-cam on the computer should need an 8th gen or newer CPU. My main machine which I am typing this out on has a Xeon from the core 2 era. I could do pretty much everything I needed to do on a computer on a core 2 duo, and so could most standard PC users if it weren't for poorly optimized, over bloated modern software.
@@WalterKnox Agreed. Software is another thing that limits older processors and even basic web browsing could challenge a Core 2 Duo because of the code and features people change all the time. For example, I don't know about your Core 2 Duo but the Centrino Duo in my old T60 widescreen model really struggles with modern UA-cam video playback especially at 720p or higher and it would definitely struggle with multitasking meaning it would most likely perform horrendously if multiple tabs are opened or if multiple programs are running.
i thought it said 9 years ago and you predicted the computer
I still use a core 2 extreme laptop running windows vista extended kernel for everything
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Nice Billy Trew impersonation. I know you aren't the same person though, you are just that, an imitator. The real person behind Billy Trew and Michael Porter uses very specific grammar and punctuation which you do not.
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typing to say thank you for uploading from my old ass ps/2 keyboard. hashtag keep old tech alive
Got to keep the old stuff alive, because the new stuff is inferior, and once all of the old stuff is gone; it will never come back.
There has to be a way to shut off those ads from the registry, it behaves a lot like the bs splash screen that pops out when you dont link an account on a new installation. I think it was called windows 10 lets finish setting up your pc disable registry. It has a regedit key that can be disabled, so should the advert version
Standard drive sizes are multiples of 32
Well if that is the case, it is a new standard because none of the hard drives I have are in multiples of 32, they are even numbers.
@@WalterKnox It is a difference between gigabytes and gibibytes that people don't really talk about as people tend to call both of them just "gigabytes." (Thanks to Microsoft for the most part) Gigabytes are base-1000 and gibibytes are base-1024, so technically, the requirements that you were reading may call for 128 GiB - 1 TiB rather than 128 GB - 1 TB.
EDIT: I did a bit more research, and it seems even MORE confusing as I just read that someone had a 512 GB (gigabyte) drive, translating to roughly 476.84 GiB. What in the hell?
@@system128 Drive manufacturers almost always use GB instead of GiB, in order to have a bigger number.
they're multiples of 32 because of the NAND storage chips held within the ssd
some chips are a pinch smaller which give the 500GB even on an SSD,.
512GB SSDs used to be 16 256Gb nand chips but you'll usually find it spread across 1 or 2 which would be 2048Gb or 4096Gb per chip
I had an i7 7700k and Windows was Like oh sorry this CPU does Not Support Windows 11 and then they gave me an add for a Intel Atom PC with a worse CPU which will my 7700k laugh about
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Should still work if you tpm and secureboot
love the whole atmosphere of this viedo, looks like something from a decade ago and i honestly really liked it! btw if you can't upgrade your computers to w11 just use linux
As mentioned in the video; this machines is the only machine I own running Windows 10 and it performs one dedicated task. All of my main machines run XP and I have zero issues. Everyone always says "just switch to linux" but it isn't that simple, and I have been hearing that on almost a daily basis for over a decade now.
24h2 now will physically not install on anything that dies not have sse4 instruction set so i had to uninstall it from my core 2 quad system. It ran quite well after debloating. Maybe if they wouldnt include all this proprietary junk they could lower the requirements but nope!
Yeah, that is too bad.
@@PricklyPineapplesProductions I really think they changed the compiler flags, because Redhat 9 won't run on C2D/Q anymore. Same instruction - POPCNT of the SSE4.2 set.
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also there are ways to bypass the requirements if you really wanna switch to windows 11 (yuck)
Yeah, I mention that in the video. It is not a good solution though, and I have no desire to update.
I AM A BLACK MAN!
@@WalterKnox Oh my bad, and that's a fair point.
I love that this feels like 2007 and you're about to complain about windows vista, but it's 2024 and we're talking windows 10 😂😂 I genuinely love it
For an average person, a used laptop from eBay is more then enough. Kinda like getting a used car. It works for, well basic work. Gamers whatever,thats your problem and realistically work pcs have been perfected.
Gamers are completely off my radar. A used Latitude or something like that is a great option. You can get a great deal on a machine in very good condition, because companies are constantly upgrading perfectly fine machines; usually on a 4 year basis, so 2021 model business grade laptops and desktops are about to flood the market, and will make a much better machine than a cheap "consumer grade" machine would at the same price point, or even higher.
That is what we do at work, we buy lots of retired office PCs from surplus auctions, we refurbish some of them and sell them as functioning machines, and we sell the parts from some of them. If you buy one directly, no HDD, RAM, or OS, you can get a GREAT deal one one.
Reminds me of UXWBill. When do the P4 Dells come out?
I quite like UXWBill. I have a whole stack of Pentium 4 Dell Dimensions and OptiPlexes, they just weren't in this video.
That's exactly what I was thinking! I really miss watching his tech rambles in the background while working on stuff.
If they actually force the upgrade, Im gonna switch entirely to Linux. Already ordered my first Steam Deck a few days ago
Okay.
I had to do a double take for the date posted, lol. Nice content that feels like it's from early 2000s.
Okay.
I honesty agree with everything he says. Not only do we not need those bullshit, superfluous updates, but they also clog up our shit. Big corporations offload the optimization on to the buyer. They can’t be patient and make quality software that works fast, so they make us buy new components
not even a new PC they want you to buy a glorified tablet that'll break in 1 or 2 years
I like staying up to date on my tech and have a pretty good machine to play around with. I still don't want to use their shit OS. Once a month or so they'll pester me about enabling TPM and using their garbage tablet OS. I was pissed enough moving from 7 to 10, I just don't feel like doing the next leap. I'm enough of a fat, sweaty nerd to use Linux, I just don't feel like it. I want an OS that works and keeps working, why is that so much to ask?
I am the same was as far as Linux goes. I can use it, it isn't that I lack the ability to; and I learn new things pretty fast when I feel like it. I just have no desire to do so. I want something that works as it should with no fiddling; for me at least Windows XP still does that.
That pentium 4 joke caught me off guard lol
I disable their bullshit through registry. ALL OF THEIR BULLSHIT.
And how do you know EVERYTHING is disabled?
@@grisu1934 You can't truly know. That's why I'm switching to Linux when 10 reaches end of life. Done with Microsoft BS.
I got a 2021 celeron laptop and it’s Linux drivers aren’t up to the task watching a 720p video while windows 10 has no issue so I’m outta luck
Yeah, Linux is not an option or a solution for everyone/everything unlike what most Linux users would want you to believe.
as others have mentioned, you may want to try windows 10 iot ltsc which is supported until 2032.
must be a you problem, my celeron laptop works fine, perhaps you forgot to enable hardware acceleration in firefox/whatever you use for yt?
You do realize Celeron is just a name of a line of COUs right? One laptop either a Celeron is not the same as another. If it is a driver issue, the CPU doesn’t matter, the laptop itself matters, so unless it was the same exact model, your point is moot.
4:3 aspect ratio. 480p video. OMG I love it :D What camera you use?
Also yeah Windows is getting so annoying. Everytime I update my big PC that is Windows 11 Compatible it tried to hide the "keep windows 10" button by making it as small as possible so you would accidently click the UPGRADE! button thats big and bold and bright enough in hopes you quickly click it out of trying to get out of the screen and "accidently" upgrade to 11.
It's so damn annoying especially when I am trying to do stuff like IDK edit a video and quickly come back to it the next day only to be greeted by that exact screen you shown there. Im so closed to pulling the Linux trigger and just finally making the big switch.
Hiding the "don't upgrade" button is nothing. I remember back when Windows 10 first came out, and they installed the nagware on Windows 7 for it's free "upgrade," they would sometimes just upgrade it without you even saying to do so. I had a machine that did that. I left for a week or so, come back and my PC is suddenly running Windows 10.
@WalterKnox that should be illegal. I heard stories of people Windows 10 PCs just automatically upgrading to 11 without their consent.
if you're looking for being able to grab stuff of of the file server without using a flash drive. try using a CAT5E cable and linking the 2 computers (assuming your file server is just a desktop) that should work
My file server is an IBM x3200 eServer.
It is linked into my local network; I have at least 10 other desktops and laptops I regularly access it with, so I don’t want to disconnect it.
I simply unplugged the network cable from that machine, and using a USB drive to copy a few songs every few months at most really isn’t an issue.
Plus involuntary upgrade in case you have Windows 11 capable machine. Cool video with great info. Quality of camera is not bad, on the contrary, it shows that if it works there is no need to change it, and it might even add so much needed character that all those 4K sloptubers are missing.
I have a Win10 ITX rig as a portable lan party beast that is Win11 compatible. I just nope out of that shit every time I get that pop-up when I turn on the PC... 😂
Why did this video become so popular?
I don't know. It is rather annoying though as it has attracted so many annoying Linux users which I had to block from seemingly nowhere.
Last night I managed to get Windows 11 on a ThinkPad T410 with a dual-core i5 first gen and 2GB of RAM. With some de bloating, it runs fine bar some minor hiccups with opening more than one app at a time (but the blame is Microsoft on that one). Proves that their requirements are rubbish. They can have an “ideal requirements” but it doesn’t mean they should be allowed to stop people doing what they want. That’s the thing I hate most about Microsoft nowadays, they want control.
Man, there is an elegance to the simplicity that you operate with. I spend too much time gutting windows 10 and using policies to shut it up and your over here like “I’ll just pull it off the network” 😅
Was not expecting windows xp for a daily driver, kinda surprised. I would have just moved over to mint if I didn’t lock myself into office 365 for business stuff, oh well. (Email services primarily, OneDrive is kinda handy, guilty pleasure to admit).
Keep the old stuff alive, better than the landfill, and less telemetry to Microsoft, doing your part.
Yeah. if it were something that internet connectivity was important on, then I may spend more time "fixing" it, but in this case it's one single dedicated task is offline anyway, and the only reason it was connected to the network at all was to transfer music from the file server, which I do maybe once every few months at most; so the easiest solution would be just to unplug the network cable and let that be that.
I can just use a flash drive to transfer files if I need to.
Windows 11 is such a slogfest. My workplace started using Win11 on portable OS's for some unlocking software we use, and it's at least HALF as slow as Win10 and unresponsive for the first 3 minutes it's starting up. I told them to switch to 10 for it, and it's snappy as all hell; somehow they were surprised about this.
there is so much bloat on win 10 & 11 too
Indeed.
One thing that I haven't checked in a while that I love using are Win7 extended kernel patches. Not a whole lot of development has been done with them last I checked, but they basically let you use normally Win10 & Win11 exclusive apps on Windows 7.
It's my preferred way to use Windows the few times I need it. Never touching Win10 ever again now that I became a Linux user.
I am curious what on Windows 7 you need an extender kernel for? I run XP on all of my main machines, and I rarely run into anything that doesn't work, and on the rare occasion it won't, I just use an older version of the software which generally just works better anyway.
The only software that needs to be up to date are ones which need to interact with the internet or a server to work, which changes over time. The only thing that fits that description I use is a web browser, and Supermium is based off of the latest (or a very late) version of Chromium and supports XP natively.
@@WalterKnox
It's mainly for newer programs that don't support Windows 7 anymore, or never could to begin with, just like you said. I'd say like 90% of Windows software runs just fine on Windows 7, but that 10% will always catch you off guard, and that's where the extended kernel comes into play. Though, it's not always a guaranteed fix (modern Chrome & Firefox will never work, even with an extended kernel)
It's not always necessary to have an extended kernel, you yourself seem to be doing just fine without one, but it's always good to have it on hand just in case you run into the rare Windows 10/11 exclusive app.
All I'm saying is give something like VxKex (my favourite Win7 kernel extender) a shot on a spare PC (or hard-drive) running Windows 7, and see if it runs that picky radio app properly. If it doesn't, swap back to your usual setup.
windows xp on the utrawide is crazy work unc
Yeah. Absolutely crazy work to get my 16:9 ultrawide to work. I had to plug it in; that is just absolutely astonishing.
DELL LATITUDE AND OPTIPLEX BROS RISE UP!
Old Latitudes and OptiPlexes are the best. Precision workstations as well.
Your vid just popped up on my recommendation feed, this is the type of content I've been looking for, i still uses win 7 to this day with extended kernel and supermium, subbed
I use XP and Supermium myself. Supermium is one of the best things to happen for XP in years. MyPal which was the "newest" browser previously was getting a bit sketchy for many things. Supermium just works as good as modern Chrome.
Although I do prefer Firefox over Chrome, I guess I have to be happy with what I have at this point.
Which audioplayer may i ask?
It might be possible to get vlc to do the job
I am using play it live. It has to put specific audio files in order automatically, not play the same song or artist for a set amount of time, not loop, and play a radio station jingle every few songs.
Never upgrading to Windows 11. 10 was fine i guess, minus Cortana and privacy concerns, but at least it let me do my own thing. A few months back I switched to Linux Mint and Kubuntu on my two PCs, so i can mainly use Linux and use Win10 for some stubborn games like Roblox, Minecraft Bedrock or Epic Games Store titles.
I don't wanna deal with Recall or even more AI features they think I want, that they bring back after I remove them with each update.
Hopefully by the time Windows 10 is dropped by Steam and most programs, linux gaming and modding support (most mod managers are windows-only like Vortex) get good enough that even the most anti-linux companies (again, Roblox and Epic) have a way to play their titles on the platform, or at least using Wine.
I thought this video was made from 2006/2007/2008 lol.
It was not.
I like how Microsoft thinks an i9 9900K with 8 cores, 16 threads, with modern branch prediction and caches, running at 5Ghz aside DDR4 memory isn't good enough for their precious operating system, but their main technical gripe, is what, an instruction that was introduced 2 decades ago and could be emulated on trap? They supported Itanium until a few years ago, but they can't ship a branch of Windows for lower bin mobile chips and older desktops? Suuurree. Still not buying the bill gates chip.
Older CPUs, like athlons 2 x4 or Core 2 Quads, were about 20-30% slower in games on win10 than on win7 back in 2015-2016, even before spectre and meltdown patches.
there are ways to use win 11 on a computer that doesnt meet requirements, pretty sure RuFuS has options that will pop up to disable the TPM and other stuff. alot of win11 is bullshit requirements are to do with CPU unfortunately. Windows 10 IoT release is very clean compared to home or pro. also wont require updates until 2030 i think. using that on a hp and works with everything you need.
win10 iot/enterprise has no update until alot later than win10 home/pro. works well, and doesnt come with candy crush!
His rage is one everyone has been having and growing for years now
you can still use low res monitors . 800x600 is avalible without any hacks on win11. SSDs are so cheap now aswell especially used. That music program requiring a 6th gen i7 is crazy as all hell though. I get your point but some of it I just don't get. the system requirements are insane for essentially windows 10.1 though.
I have never actually tried to use it, so I was just going off of what the website said. The system requirements are insane.
There is no reason why it should have to have an SSD, or that much storage space. Yes, an SSD is cheap and provides a much better experience; but a properly written, well optimized operating system can run on a mechanical drive just fine, Windows 10 (and 11) are not, and don't run well on them because of it.
There is no reason a standard PC user should have to have anything more than a core 2 duo and 2-4gb RAM.
I have a 2014 Mac Mini with the i5-4278U and 8GB of RAM with Debian 12 Cinnamon, and that is OVERKILL for office work. I wish it had better graphics, but the Iris 5100 is more than good enough for playing Sonic 3 (1997) and Yosuganosora (2008).
For basic office work, anything more than a core 2 duo (or even a Pentium 4 depending on the OS) is overkill.
@@WalterKnoxI'd still use my Pentium III 733 with a 250GB HDD but the capacitors blew up and killed the board (tops didn't puff, the bottoms of the caps rotted and leaked).
Windows 2003 was the last good Windows, and Windows XP 2003/XP version 2002 is just 2000 skinned over, and Vista+ is XP that's skinned over even more!
@@WalterKnox Actually, that program might be using instructions that were introduced in the 6th generation of Intel Core processors. Windows 11 now requires SSE4.2 to boot, which leaves the Core 2 Duo out. But the 1st gen Core CPUs and any CPUs derived from those designs can run Win11 and newer.
What camera are you using? I kinda want it
kodak m340
hell yeah
i would've kept using xp if not for kernelex completely breaking my wifi card drivers
I actually got the same issue with the windows 2000 kernelex, my wifi card refuses to work now. strange that it does that.
Coincidentally, Microsoft recently went back on their TPM requirement for Win11, presumably because they don’t want to have to keep pushing back EOL for enterprise PCs.
I recommend using a Windows for IoT image if you do update. Strips out a lot of bullshit.
Or just drop Windows altogether, if you can, since Microsoft isn’t gonna stop being hot garbage anytime soon.
If u haven't already considered, I think u might like Windows 10 iot LTSC
That would work, but this is the only computer I have running Windows 10 anyway, and it only performs this one specific task and nothing else. I already have it all set up, which took a good while, so I don't really want to have to re do everything. Since it is not online anyway, I just unplugged the network cable so it will quit annoying me with this nonsense.
@@WalterKnox Fair enough, I get where you're coming from. I'm fed up with Microsoft constantly forcing annoying sh*t on their customers too. They're so many things they could actually be improving upon, but they're only capable of thinking about profit nowadays. 0 thought goes into the actual user experience. U WILL NEVER EVER CATCH ME USING WINDOWS 11.
i cant wait for october 2025 to see how many people will switch to linux, i do hope i can stay with 10 for a couple more decades but it just seems unrealistic
windows 10 is just the definitive version of windows and i have no problem with it aside from the lack of aero
Great rant!
Old software that's working will keep working once the network cable is unplugged