Putting in a shameless plug for orb/fireball sorc. Level 17 cold mastery is as high as you need it after plus skills, it no longer pierces further than that. Orb needs no synergies, just aim so the big explosion goes off on top of your target. Fireball for cold immunities. Meteor to moat trick meph. Fire mastery to taste. The build really shines with tal's set
Orb needs no synergies, really?! But 20 points in icebolt would give it +40% damage, seems a lot? Nice to know though mate, I knew hybridisation was feasible for Forb which is why S tier but didn’t realise you’d have so many free points! I’m gonna have to give that a test too - thanks for the input!
druid + necro are my fav classes and I mostly play HC so I'm thinking a summon/CE necro to start, and a wind/cold druid pretty quick for variety. I wanna make a good sorc for obvious reasons but it's a little scary to start off with in HC. but we'll see. edit - wow I never realized how flexible necro is. that's awesome.
The only thing I can say you forgot is mentioning which of these builds can actually beat the game solo. Imo D2R may bring a bunch of newer players into the game and seriously most of these cannot beat the game solo. I know you havent made the list based on that, but think about it, as a new player, it doesnt make sense that you cannot beat a game right? Otherwise I say goodjob tiering the builds, some I agree while others less so, but I can say I couldnt have done better.
Yeah dude that’s a fairly valid point to be honest! Thanks for the input I definitely never thought of that! Although, I do wonder, if Llama can beat the game punching everything with a barb, is it really impossible for any of these builds? 😅
Im not sure how frenzy and berserk are in C tier. Berserk is the best pit farmer in the game and Frenzy does a well above par job at killing ubers and bosses
im wondering which one to pick between blizzard sorc and hammerdin.. im feeling that sorc should be a much faster start because of teleport until you get an enigma as a hammerdin, and that does take quite a while, am i right?
First! Another great video my dude! I'll be rocking the windy druid to start as I remember it being a lot of fun and the dual cold/phys damage is great
Open a cow portal near charsi in hell, or use nihlathak portal to refresh their shops by going in and out and check her inventory. She often sells +skills gloves.
Totally agree, completely caught me off guard as well I wasn’t expecting that! too long playing PD2. It’s also bullshit cause summons synergies do nothing, maxing bear is the best bear you get even though it says gains bonuses from wolves etc, it really doesn’t. I believe they were rushed to release D2 LoD and never got to finish balancing of druid unfortunately :-(
the best starter builds for d2r are: support bo barb + vita bliz dont even waste ur time with other builds those are how to get chars on a realm and get hrs in about 10+ hours of playing level 1-15: config barb as followbot have it walk behind the sorc as it clears with a bow / also put a bow on the barb config basic attack kill monsters if in range level 15-21 tombs same method for killing but also using spells and mercs level 21-25 cows / turn on bliz and autoaim for packs have support char rush chars to act 5 do ancients and baal runs until 40 nm ancients at 40 / baal quest leach level via enchant in hell or hell chaos 60 hell ancients config leach bot for baal runs done botting in d2r is happening
botting happening in multiplayer too, or only single player? disappointing modern anti-cheat still can't keep that in check, can't possibly compete with others without botting if it's happening.
@@erichb4530 d2 is about exploits / mods / scripting not just playing :) its been that way for the last 20 years. the injection of new blood into the game will not have any ability to counter the skills us vets have over the last 20 years of practice.
People aren't coming here to read comments like yours on whats best to start on with a fucking bot. Have some common sense jfc. Also, D2 is all about playing. You're making it sound like everybody who wants to enjoy the game needs bots, exploits, mods and shit, which cannot be further from the truth. You might be knowledgable when it comes to 3rd party software for the game, but if your two posts tell us anything, then it's that you have absolutely no sense of what D2 and/or games are about for new and veteran players alike.
Oooo Lewmano, what you testing for assa and ama? ;) I for sure will make a sorc too eventually for rushing and LK runs, but for the first playthrough I wanna have fun! My sorc can get rushed later haha.
Yeah the issue was I had streamed it all with the camera in top right, and wanted to cover that with myself not to see two of me.... but I’ll take note and see if I can reduce it all a bit in the future! Thanks for feedback! :)
How come you don't talk about specific assassin builds until S tier in your comments. You go into details on each build on each class, but ignore each on the assassin builds. 😞
Omg lol... and I also realised I skipped Phoenix assa... jeez... so concerned about light trap assa fire never got some love! Fire trap assa was pretty good, especially in places like maggot lair without immunes. You still max death sentry, so you even have some light and phys damage to help, but honestly it’s not like PD2, and light is far far superior. Were you thinking of playing fire traps?
If anyone is reading this on d2r launch day avoid frozen orb, it's actual dogshit. Lightning sorc is s tier and the very best sorc build due to there being less light immunes in the game than any other element. The guy making this video just looked at damage numbers and made a tier list, it's inaccurate. Good luck.
Bro, you are just incorrect, on both grounds... I legit tested all of these, with basic gear, and include footage for it all, not just damage numbers. And you know in the area level 85 zones, every single one has possiblity to spawn light immune, no other element has that many. (see here: projectdiablo2.miraheze.org/wiki/Zones and filter for vanilla 85 level... ALL have spawnable light immunes, some are safe for the other elements, and ancient tunnels is especially easy, plus its S tier because its option for hybridisation) The difference being that it can be broken later with infinity, but its not viable to play with infinity and say its for starter builds.
@@RedStaggGaming Doubling down makes you like double stupid tbh. Unless you put 1000 hours into each build you didn't test them. Look up some real guides on jsp etc for diablo 2 builds from people that have tested the builds for years, light sorc is always the top starter for every ladder. Cya at the end game goofy.
@@powerfulnoun2608 I just gave you facts, and footage and additionally look at legit anyone else’s tier list and you’ll see those sorcs above lightning (llama’s for example, who is very experienced). I don’t look stupid for it at all, but thanks for your input, wish you fun on D2R!
Putting in a shameless plug for orb/fireball sorc. Level 17 cold mastery is as high as you need it after plus skills, it no longer pierces further than that. Orb needs no synergies, just aim so the big explosion goes off on top of your target. Fireball for cold immunities. Meteor to moat trick meph. Fire mastery to taste. The build really shines with tal's set
Orb needs no synergies, really?! But 20 points in icebolt would give it +40% damage, seems a lot? Nice to know though mate, I knew hybridisation was feasible for Forb which is why S tier but didn’t realise you’d have so many free points! I’m gonna have to give that a test too - thanks for the input!
But u need more then 17 points if you want to have meph to go into 0 frost resist I'm very sure of. MR.Lama said so himself.
@@RedStaggGaming yeah, 2% extra DMG for a skill point is not worth it
@@jarlfisk not sure what his cold resist is in hell but elemental pierce works at 1/5 effectiveness below 0 if I recall correctly
Dude I just got this game last week and I've been playing It everyday, I just got my first Spirit today !
druid + necro are my fav classes and I mostly play HC so I'm thinking a summon/CE necro to start, and a wind/cold druid pretty quick for variety. I wanna make a good sorc for obvious reasons but it's a little scary to start off with in HC. but we'll see.
edit - wow I never realized how flexible necro is. that's awesome.
Summon CE is a great place to start mate, especially for HC! Yeah, I think I’m necro start and make sorc for obvious reasons too. ^^
came here for the build guides... subbed for the amazing accent. :v
The only thing I can say you forgot is mentioning which of these builds can actually beat the game solo.
Imo D2R may bring a bunch of newer players into the game and seriously most of these cannot beat the game solo.
I know you havent made the list based on that, but think about it, as a new player, it doesnt make sense that you cannot beat a game right?
Otherwise I say goodjob tiering the builds, some I agree while others less so, but I can say I couldnt have done better.
Yeah dude that’s a fairly valid point to be honest! Thanks for the input I definitely never thought of that! Although, I do wonder, if Llama can beat the game punching everything with a barb, is it really impossible for any of these builds? 😅
@@RedStaggGaming Hahaha, you cant compare one punch llama and some random newbs :D
Anyone with a decent knowledge of the game can beat the game with nearly any if not all of the builds. Not to say it will be fast, but it can be done.
So, about that question. Which of these builds are best for solo play?
@@smite0568 Yes, that is why I mentioned newer player. :)
Thank you for the informative video bro I dont play D2 atm but I appreciate your positive energy keep up the good work
No probs mate, thanks for the support! Will you be playing D2R?
Im not sure how frenzy and berserk are in C tier. Berserk is the best pit farmer in the game and Frenzy does a well above par job at killing ubers and bosses
im wondering which one to pick between blizzard sorc and hammerdin.. im feeling that sorc should be a much faster start because of teleport until you get an enigma as a hammerdin, and that does take quite a while, am i right?
I'm trying to decide between those two as well ... think I'll end up blizzard sorc since teleport is so nice.
I'm here for the palAdin!
So I legit excused myself for saying it at the start, then said it properly from then on.... it’s getting to me all the PilAdin feedback 😂
First!
Another great video my dude! I'll be rocking the windy druid to start as I remember it being a lot of fun and the dual cold/phys damage is great
Heck yeah Karm! It’s a nice choice for sure!! :)
Great job, thanks :)
I will start with fire sorc (one word - Teleport) due to Leaf being so potato easy to make, then roll to blizz.
ikr i will do the same! :D
What is leaf?
What classes can use 2h swords? Other than paladin and barbarian
Great video, shame you didnt do some screenshots of end game skill builds for new players to look at but solid as always!
My auradin is super nasty. Just need dream now
Hammerdin in small areas is just a pain in the ass...every wall or obstacle the hammer hit .... disapear.....
missed to talk about pheonix assasin
Assasin, traps, have very well
I'm here for the nec love.
Haha profile picture fits! ;)
My PvP Chars : Sin/I’m and I wanna gev beget eitbbarf!! ok with dude. Haven’t been like 8 years since i played FOK/HLDs
The fact that a barbarian can wreck entire armies by merely screaming at them is nothing short of epic
how does some one "farm" charsi for amazon +3 gloves?
Open a cow portal near charsi in hell, or use nihlathak portal to refresh their shops by going in and out and check her inventory. She often sells +skills gloves.
I'm still so upset that In vanilla you can't have all type of Druid summons
Totally agree, completely caught me off guard as well I wasn’t expecting that! too long playing PD2. It’s also bullshit cause summons synergies do nothing, maxing bear is the best bear you get even though it says gains bonuses from wolves etc, it really doesn’t.
I believe they were rushed to release D2 LoD and never got to finish balancing of druid unfortunately :-(
do u play d2r in legacy mode? graphics is not so good ;)
How about HC builds?
Prety much the same all the s tiers dont rly need gear to work well.. so you can focus on res/life!
As Jo Mo said, focus res & life and will be fine. However I mentioned in video that summoner is likely the HC best pick, very safe!
the best starter builds for d2r are:
support bo barb + vita bliz
dont even waste ur time with other builds those are how to get chars on a realm and get hrs in about 10+ hours of playing
level 1-15: config barb as followbot have it walk behind the sorc as it clears with a bow / also put a bow on the barb config basic attack kill monsters if in range
level 15-21 tombs same method for killing but also using spells and mercs
level 21-25 cows / turn on bliz and autoaim for packs
have support char rush chars to act 5 do ancients and baal runs until 40
nm ancients at 40 / baal quest
leach level via enchant in hell or hell chaos
60 hell ancients
config leach bot for baal runs
done
botting in d2r is happening
botting happening in multiplayer too, or only single player? disappointing modern anti-cheat still can't keep that in check, can't possibly compete with others without botting if it's happening.
@@erichb4530 d2 is about exploits / mods / scripting not just playing :) its been that way for the last 20 years. the injection of new blood into the game will not have any ability to counter the skills us vets have over the last 20 years of practice.
People aren't coming here to read comments like yours on whats best to start on with a fucking bot. Have some common sense jfc. Also, D2 is all about playing. You're making it sound like everybody who wants to enjoy the game needs bots, exploits, mods and shit, which cannot be further from the truth. You might be knowledgable when it comes to 3rd party software for the game, but if your two posts tell us anything, then it's that you have absolutely no sense of what D2 and/or games are about for new and veteran players alike.
Boring sorc start to feed the pally! Although doing some last minute testing of assassin and Java
Oooo Lewmano, what you testing for assa and ama? ;) I for sure will make a sorc too eventually for rushing and LK runs, but for the first playthrough I wanna have fun! My sorc can get rushed later haha.
your camera takes up too much screen space
Yeah the issue was I had streamed it all with the camera in top right, and wanted to cover that with myself not to see two of me.... but I’ll take note and see if I can reduce it all a bit in the future! Thanks for feedback! :)
How come you don't talk about specific assassin builds until S tier in your comments. You go into details on each build on each class, but ignore each on the assassin builds. 😞
i skipped to s tier your welcome for the sub!
Bro you skipped over fire trapsin in the A tier lol
Omg lol... and I also realised I skipped Phoenix assa... jeez... so concerned about light trap assa fire never got some love! Fire trap assa was pretty good, especially in places like maggot lair without immunes. You still max death sentry, so you even have some light and phys damage to help, but honestly it’s not like PD2, and light is far far superior. Were you thinking of playing fire traps?
@@RedStaggGaming Nah, just making an observation, it's all good. After playing PD2 I don't think I can get back to vanilla anymore though.
Trapsin baby! :X
Heck yeahhh dude!
If anyone is reading this on d2r launch day avoid frozen orb, it's actual dogshit. Lightning sorc is s tier and the very best sorc build due to there being less light immunes in the game than any other element. The guy making this video just looked at damage numbers and made a tier list, it's inaccurate. Good luck.
Bro, you are just incorrect, on both grounds...
I legit tested all of these, with basic gear, and include footage for it all, not just damage numbers.
And you know in the area level 85 zones, every single one has possiblity to spawn light immune, no other element has that many. (see here: projectdiablo2.miraheze.org/wiki/Zones and filter for vanilla 85 level... ALL have spawnable light immunes, some are safe for the other elements, and ancient tunnels is especially easy, plus its S tier because its option for hybridisation)
The difference being that it can be broken later with infinity, but its not viable to play with infinity and say its for starter builds.
@@RedStaggGaming Doubling down makes you like double stupid tbh. Unless you put 1000 hours into each build you didn't test them. Look up some real guides on jsp etc for diablo 2 builds from people that have tested the builds for years, light sorc is always the top starter for every ladder. Cya at the end game goofy.
@@powerfulnoun2608 I just gave you facts, and footage and additionally look at legit anyone else’s tier list and you’ll see those sorcs above lightning (llama’s for example, who is very experienced).
I don’t look stupid for it at all, but thanks for your input, wish you fun on D2R!