Conservative Wipeout Ahead! Brexit, Austerity & Cronyism
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
- The Tories are making themselves repulsive to most voters as polling and Times Radio interview with former Telegraph journalist and true Conservative Peter Oborne shows.
We are about to live through a seismic election event and wipe out of the Tories.
#brexit
#britishfarming
#britain
#food
#costoflivingcrisis
I’m over 65. I will never vote Tory, ever.
I am now 75, have never voted for the Tories, and voted Remain in the Great Disaster. I have been a Republican since I was 16, and I cannot understand why the scruffy-headed, over-size spectacle, hissing on breathing, annoyance, thought it was worse telling lies to the so-called monarch, than lying to the people who actually voted them in. WHY IS IT WORSE. 1 old woman, nothing special, against 60 million REAL PEOPLE.
Ditto here
@@Demun1649 I could not have put it better myself! You took the words right out of my mouth! We are obviously kindred spirits.
me too !
I am over 65 & will not vote conservative as they are. Could they change for the better? Change enough? I hope so but don't expect so.
I'm over and . . . I NEVER ever voted for Tories.
Quite simply it's all about the money and no concern for people.
What the British people shall consider, is the distribution of wealth fair? Then vote accordingly.
@@Gert-DK Maybe they won't follow your orders. "Shall" is a compulsive verb.
@@keithhutchins8966 OK. English is my second language.
@@Gert-DK I accept your point. But little things like that are important to your message. You are already ahead of me as I am an aging, lazy Englishman and, of course, I only speak one language. LOL Good luck in all you seek for you and yours.
@@keithhutchins8966 Thnx.
I am an ageing (63) lazy Dane and, dare I say, I also speak German. English and German is mandatory in school, since 1943. English from first day in school. German, only 4 years.
I have always wondered why the UK haven't made French mandatory? Likewise in the US, why isn't Spanish mandatory. Spanish should even be one of the easier languages to learn.
Have a nice day.
How can anyone ever vote Tory ????
Tribalism.
Ask your fellow compatriots perhaps. The Tories have won a majority of the elections they competed in, mostly off the back of English votes (not the whole of UK).
It's easy. You use the little pencil they give you.
@@pritapp788 You should worry then if the Celtic nations go it alone.
@@jstewart4205 And you're one of them, obviously.
I was a floating voter. I was even stupid and naive enough to vote for brexit.
Never again. Never tory again, ever.
Well done for this brave admission, sir. The problem is not the people who voted Brexit in good faith and conscience, its the liars and charlatans who sold the electorate a pile of manure, for their own selfish gain.
Tories wouldn’t even make good fertiliser
I'd like to try it, though.
Too toxic
Would make them b/s ? Same as the Liar party?
They're trying to salt the earth for the next Government though.
Wow you lefties think the Tories are bad but you are spitting hate.
Current Tories don't deserve more than 20 seats.
Less
If Rishi continues like he did on Loose Women today, they'll be lucky to even be the opposition! I was shocked by his inadequacy! Truly shocked.
He will resign as leader (as all leaders do) and as MP. He's gained enough personal wealth through dodgy dealings, to say "I'm bored of this now, goodbye and please buy more of my book than you did of Liz Truss's"
I'm over 65 and I'll never vote Tory....
Very rich over 65 maybe they vote Tory, goodness knows why....
Somethings not right when Tories have the son of X KGB agent working and advising the UK PM, very worrying.
Get the Tories out, General Election now 🙏
Even 100 odd seats to the Tories in completely ridiculous given their shambolic lying corrupt record. Huge debt, austerity, declining services, and stupid diversions like Rwanda.
It was Calamity Brown who left mountains of debt and austerity in 2010....when all the money ran out.
Because of uncosted and unfunded spending on tax credits, sure start and one million mainly non-jobs,....
plus benefit grabbing millions from the third world.
@@PollieBrooon-cz5yg - A woman of memory. The Tories have been fixing Labour's mess for over a decade but we have never had austerity. Borrowing and austerity cannot exist together. Lefties don't understand those simple economics.
Austerity = Not spending the Revenue.
@PollieBrooon-cz5yg national debt is 3 times what it was under Brown, who had reduced it before the American debt crisis.
@@slayerrocks2 But that's because of Brown's crippling £180 billion budget deficit in 2010, costing £1 billion PER WEEK to service Labour's debt.
Decade later, that deficit had been reduced to just £20 billion by the time covid struck....which means we were near to budget SURPLUSES again,...and then paying off the debt....excellent Conservative house-keeping...but ''austerity'' according to Labour.
Vote Tories out
Disagree. They really are shit.
All of them , no seat in the house for them
Needs to be a big majority so that labour can launch an immediate inquiry into 14 years of tory corruption. The scale of it is staggering
Absolutely...the amount of fraud is staggering eye watering amounts 'disappeared'
Agreed. And it has been truly blatant corruption (while disguising themselves as 'market disruptors').
Then have a look at 13 years of Blair's corrupt ''Client State''.
Have you not wondered about the deafening silence from the Labour front bench regards the Michel Mone PPE scandal?.....Labour looking into past corruption? I dont think thats likely, we will simply be swapping one cheek of the arse for the other.
@@eddieharris6004 But we know on whose watch that it happened.
The problem with Thatcherism is that you eventually run out of assets to sell to overseas investors so that they can rip off British consumers. They have privatised (sold) everything apart from the NHS which is being privatised by stealth.
Funnily enough, the last time I voted Tory Ted Heath was Prime Minister.
BUT: the fact that some people will always vote conservtive, gerry mandering and FPTP will ensure that they are not annihilated.
No one lives forever. They are making annihilation more likely. I don't see many lifelong Tories being born these days
@@Matt.Hurley - Try leaving your street once in a while! Europe is swinging away from the Left.
I'm 29. We have had a Tory government for about half my lifetime. As far as I can see the Tories aren't even conservatives anymore.
they never have been. It's the same old dirty tactics year after year, just more blatant. Even Thatcher was waging unnecessary war on brown people, disabled people, social services, and the less off.
Tory policies on refugees are what the National Front wanted to enact in the 80's.
In the 00's Tory own assessment, I forget the MP's name but he was interviewed on Newsnight (big fat guy!), showed the economy was significantly better off because of east European migrants.
The Tories were always headed in this direction, their ideology makes it inevitable, however the financial crash of 2008 and Brexit massively accelerated their devolution.
@@MrBabylon - The financial crash of 2008 was under Labour. The Tories fixed it for them!
@@MrBabylon - Do you mean illegal migrants? Try going to France without your passport. Once there, demand a home, benefits and health care....let me know how you get on!
Couldn't come soon enough
If there was a decent opposition then yes but New Labour are even worse, hard to believe but true. We will be worse off after 5 years under Labour. We really need some new parties, these two monopoly parties are beyond help.
Agree with you as ever Liz. And finding common ground with Obourne to my surprise. These far right maniacs won't last. Now we have to rebuild our country, repair the damage they've done. Solidarity with the farmers ✊
I love the line “cronyism a metaphor for corruption” well said Peter
While I'm glad the Tories have lost the "prosperous farmers vote " were theybok with "bedroom tax" on the lowest earners but no mansion tax. Cutting benefits but not bankers bonuses. Subsidised food and drink in Hoyse of Commons but restricting free school meals to vunerable children. Austerity cost lives. People on universal credit died. Some took their own lives in despair. Social services cut. Children and spouses dying in the home. A Tory vote will always be an "I'm alright Jack "vote . We need proportional representation so every vote matters and every person matters. There's a quote in my favourite tv shows "everyone counts or nobody counts" This should be applicable to a beneficial and healthy society.
Make sure you get out and vote though. Older voters always vote and usually tory. Any other age groups, please get out and vote.
I would vote for any pro-EU .Are there any .
I’ll be voting Labour and I’m focussed on rejoin.
Lib Dems. But might be better to vote tactically for Labour.
@@pierrewilliams1533 LibDems are pro Brexit
SNP, but you would have to move up here
@@peterholden3672The Tory client media would go into a frenzy wait until they're powerless.
I think your headline is totally correct Liz 👍👍👍💯💯💯
Thanks Liz for this upload. Peter Oborne is a good thinker who made the journey from Uber Brexiter to realising that he had been shilling for a delusion based on a tissue of lies. He was honest enough to openly admit he was wrong.
Addendum- this week’s Brexit & Beyond blog by Chris Grey (uploaded today) looks at how the hard Brexiter right who say Brexit has not happened (which is why it’s a failure) are still determined to to have another go at a total break with Europe.
Well, Breiters don't need food, do they ?
No wonder they want to have another " go at a total break " with their most important food supplier.
How does sovreignty taste by the way ?? Is it nutricious ??
You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all the people all of the time!
I’ll have a read!
Sorry - but no.
If Peter Oborne had been a "good thinker" he would have had the courage to stand up against Brexit, loud and clear.
He's certainly capable of appearing to be an "articulate thinker" but that's definitely not the same thing.
@@Brynmawrhill watch this space … my next video is focussed just on this important point. I hope to get it up later today or tomorrow.
There is nothing conservative about the Conservative party.
I don’t understand what you mean ! This is conservatism !
I almost couldn't believe that I was hearing.
A Tory speaking the truth about the catastrophic lies, corruption and incompetence of his favoured party.
This is one of a tiny handful of times in recent years that I've heard a Tory who respects the rule of law and parliament, and with whom you could actually have a debate about policy, rather than spending the entire time debunking their endless lies, cherry picked economic statistics, and constant bad faith arguments.
Don't forget allowing water firms to take 2bill a year in dividends on average every year while letting it sink into 60 billion of debt
All while saving cash by not improving infrastructure and dumping untreated shit in to our rivers and seas after brexit when EU regs we ignored on water quality
This is something we have to hold them accountable for
Corruption and incompetence are another two words you need to add to your list.
Liz Webster for MP! ❤🎉😊
Thank you as ever , great video 😊,
Liz you are amazing and the Farmers and sensible people of the UK should be very grateful to have you.
I know you’ve educated me on my anti farmer stance due to Brexit so thanks you.
Nope. Brexit, yes. The rest was Johnson and Truss, and "how dare they foist these two irresponsible clowns on us". Tories are filth.
The only way to ensure our prosperity for generations to come is a Conservative government led by Sir Nigel Farage.
@@markperrin8098 My poor friend, even you don't believe that.
@@markperrin8098 what Mr. Brexit Farage don't make me laugh boy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...
@@ecohipster7724The Great man himself.
Arise Sir Farage, cometh the hour, cometh the man.
@@markperrin8098 what makes him such a great man then? he is only done immense generational damage to this union we have his Brexit bullshit. Just more far right fanaticism
Just as Brexit, the old people are pulling the younger generation down.
Oi!! I'm now over 80 and have never voted Tory! My Mum was 91 when she died and only voted Tory once and that was to help keep out Farage's mob which she loathed even more than the Tories.
Not this old person. Didn't vote for brexit and have never voted tory. Never will.
Older people put in a shift - have done for decades,...young are idle and lazy and entitled in their woke, uni. holiday camps.
Brexit and 'old people' saved the current crop of younger people from the harm the EU caused them when they were young. It may come as a surprise to you, but old people were once young!
@@jstewart4205 Utter balderdash!.
LET IT BE... 🙏🏻 Please, please... 🙏🏻 LET IT BE !!! Let's make it possible to move away from this nationwide self- harming nightmare!!!
The self-harming nightmare would be rejoining the EU.
Superb interview with Peter Oborne one of the last principled journalists left in the UK
I love how this old man is acting like he has been merely a remote commentator without ever accepting they he is one of the architects of this current Conservative Party including the very government he is vilifying....He knew and worked with Johnson before Bozo went into politics, yet still supported he.
Tactical voting and we can ensure that not one Tory is returned.
That was excellent. Thanks.
I am really hoping for Labour to be north of 500 seats & Ed Davey as leader of the opposition! 😍
Canada 1993 is our Mission Statement.
Not exctly a bombshell. Predicting a Tory victory would be the bombshell.
Don't worry ... I'm sure all the farmers in the South East will vote for the Tories ... Again!!! Unfortunately, I who have lived in the SE all my life can't drive these Tories out of my hometown ... because of you farmers!!! Yes, you're feeling the pinch now ... but you'll still vote for them ... unbelievable!!!
Because the 'pinch' would mean bankruptcy under Labour...it always is!
The Tories have basically 'filled their boots' shamelessly, ignoring the conventions where it suited them. Certainly Starmer and Reeves have to re-address their situation and act accordingly. The tearing up of the previously accepted conventions and ignoring previously accepted 'rules' of political behaviour needs to be re-examined and revised.
Only when the last vote has been counted!!
That Peter Oborne speaks totally incoherently. Does he write like that too? No wonder the tories are in such a muddle.
Thank you, Liz Webster, this is so important for British farming, we are suffering people need to know
Also, the Animals are suffering but you don't care about them.
I could never vote Tory... Peter Oborn as an arch Tory in the past has come to the same conclusion as many left leaning have done and that is the Tories simply continue lurching further to the right embracing neo fascism, perhaps outright fascism as their thinking beomes more and more calcified or concretised as to render them no more than fossils.
Great news I'll be up all night watching as the results come in can't wait.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣
102 seats too many!! get them all out.
So hard agree!
Labour? I totally agree.
@@jstewart4205 Labour has far more. Tory's are toast. Get used to it. You may have helped them bring the NHS and all other public services to its knees, but you'll never get away with it again in my lifetime, coffin dodger.
And this is without tactical voting.
The betrayal of the Tory party has come home to roost.
Every morning that I wake up I am so thankful. Thankful for brexit, the reason that I escaped, thankful for the Spanish immigration police who after a thorough grilling gave me residency, thankful for King Felipe and his declaration, thankful for my small town home, my neighbours the laughter from the street cafes and the natives who laugh at my attempts at the language but also are there with patience and a ready smile. The sense of cheeky fun is always there and a spirit of family and home is in every street. The police turn up in numbers to have coffee in the cafe in our square and always have a smile and a hello. A place to live and enjoy a civilized life where little things mean a lot. Love from a town where folk don't have a lot but are happy, Gran Canaria.
Why are you thankful for Brexit? Regardless that you were fortunate enough to get out of this shit hole country the UK it still took away all the freedom of movement meaning not just your brothers and sisters but yours you should not be grateful for Brexit Brexit the worst thing to happen to all British citizens. I'm happy you managed to get away and especially to Spain that was my dream but unfortunately I was too unwell before the Brexit deadline and now they have every day in us to spare that I'm stuck on this miserable island have a thought for the ones that weren't so lucky getting away.
Boring
@@dh1380 boring can be good, especially if you had a lot of not-so-boring in your life
Enjoy😂
@@dh1380 Sometimes facts are.
It needs to be even worse for the Tories to send them the message that their negligence, cruelty and incompetence is not acceptable
I thought it was the Tories who paid for a nation to sit at home?
The Tories have carefully picked every potential voter base and systematically pissed off every single one of them.
Farmers, businesses, families, earners, anyone that uses the NHS, the roads or public services. Anyone that deals or likes Europe. Anyone that has a shred of decency or regard for standards.
Let's hope you can't turn that around with a three word slogan and tax cuts in the last five mins before an election.
I’m surprised they still have anyone voting for them!
That’s a great interview, thanks for sharing it.
I'm a 1957 model never voted tory never will simple as that 🎉.
Very interesting, and hard to disagree with. Thanks Liz.
I'm a 70yr old Brit that knew BJ was taking Ruski Rubbles "To Get Brexit Done" So why, the tory party, will get more than one seat, is beyond my ken
Get the Tories out !!!
Thanks Liz, I would say a quadruple whammy, the three you mention and the Truss budget. I don't think it unreasonable to say they've got it coming.
and theft, and corruption.
Both parties know that they must attract the young voters to survive. The Tories have put up barriers for them with "prove who your are" restrictions for young people and middle income people.
What you call a "restriction" is completely normal in most developed countries.
Daily Mail, Daily Mirror ... the perfect representation of British quality of life. ... political life, social life , honesty, etc.
Er...Daily Mirror happens to be a Labour supporting paper. Putting it in the same bracket as the Daily Heil, is quite frankly, offensive.
I am very impressed with your political journey, and obviulsy a huge proportion of the British population are following the same path but there is still a large proportion of lunatic Right Wing extremists when you add Tory and Reform votes.
Based on their traditional voting patterns the vast majority of farmers will be gutted.
One hundred seats too many. In Canada it took the cons 10-15 years to regroup so they will be back.
Yes just like Labour in the UK.
Mind you from what I see in comments people aren't voting for Labour because of what labour can do. It's actually the Tories that are winning the polls for Labour.
@@peterclareburt4594 - That's the madness...it's a form of self-harm. It only takes a few years to ruin a Country, but it takes decades to recover. I can't be arsed waiting decades after Labour have trashed it.
@@jstewart4205 Unfortunately this is the system we live in.
It equally applies to humans - couple of drinks before driving home, getting in with the wrong crowd one night and getting caught and a criminal conviction.
But I think the conservatives over Brexit lost too many people. And they have a pretty thin line-up now. They made some bad decisions over leadership and or the executive management.
One of the key messages of Brexit was to take back full control to the UK and then for the Government politicians to be fully accountable - they can't blame others.
So I think the Tories will pay that price of accountability.
You can't have everything as you like it.
The only compensating factor - is that this Labour caucus is not the caucus they had at the last election. I think faced with some of the same challenges as the Tories they will make some similar decisions. But that is just a guess and a prayer.
LOL, yeah like Labour supporters are actually going to go out and vote! 🤣🤣🤣
This is GORGEOUS
Honestly, I think this poll is being generous to the Tories. Ipsos and YouGov are far worse for the Conservatives.
The biased remainer media keep saying that so people will be like lemmings and vote for the undemocratic labour party.
Hell will freeze over before I would vote for khan starmer.
Keep khan starmer out of number ten seriously OUT.
I think we need to understand that most people who vote Conservative don't want the Conservatives. Most peoplewho vote Conservative do so out of social deference and fear. There has been a rewriting of history. Neither Mr Heath in 1970 or Mrs Thatcher in 1979 were wanted by the electorate. It was an electorate who lacked the courage to elect Labour for a full second term.
The electorate in 1979 had had a bellyfull of Labour and their anarchy, paymaster unions destroying industry
and holding society to ransom.
I think we need to understand, you are talking rubbish!
@@jstewart4205 Maybe I am!
Good
It is not the worst poll out there.
I actively boycott British products due to Brexit. I sincerely hope our farmers are enjoying what they voted for and I truly believe that any Brexit impact mitigation funding should be directed to industries who did not vote for it.
You sound like a complete fruitcake...or is that British too? Listen to yourself. If you are boycotting British products, then you are buying foreign imports, or in other words 'trade'.
That sounds like a Brexit success story!
Can we make it even fewer tories? Like 0?
❌ The Nasty Party
✅ The Nazy Party
Labour?
@@jstewart4205 Labour aren’t as based about dealing with brexit fascists as I’d like them to be
The key is , it's not the blanket poll lead that's bad for the Tories, it's Labour doing disproportionately well in target areas.
I still can't understand why anyone votes tory. Ever. Unless you want to go back to the good old days, when the rich were very, very rich and the lucky poor were in work houses.
Decimation? It's going to be far worse than 1 in 10 loss!
The Tories have really destroyed themselves .
It started by the Tories bringing in new faces into the party based on their wealth and not on knowledge or expertise .
I mean just look at Sunak , he's totally lacking in politics but because he's worth a couple of hundred million quid the Tories look up to him as if he were some kind of God .
Never ever again with the Tories .
And Starmer is all politics and naff all else. Politics won't run a country...policies will. Starmer has no policies!
This era of the last 45 years where the voters seem to have to angst their way fully through each wave of alignment by each party in turn. Has given us a problem of very infrequent changes of govt, atypically of earlier history, but when the time for them does come, enormous wild swings that are a historically changed trend too.
they've already feathered their nests.
I'm also over 65 and will never vote Tort again.
The Rwanda policy was a sign that the Tories had run out of ideas. Even Cleverly called it batshit crazy but still signed up to it. A government without ideas has to go. I think they realise they need to period in opposition to rebuild themselves and find their mojo. Unfortunately they may simply lurch further to the right, which I doubt the public will find attractive.
An indefinite period in opposition...!
Nope! It was a repeat of the Australian system...the successful Australian system!
@@jstewart4205 Australia is surrounded by vast oceans. The UK doesn't have that luxury. Some people can even swim across from France. Perhaps that will be the next Tory policy, for anyone who swims across they get a visa and an invitation to join our Olympic team.
Rwanda is safe because we say it is safe....Monty Python's Flying Circus would be proud. Batshit crazy!!
I am a bit wary about the "farmers" label because it can be applied to two different groups. One are landowners, wealth based on a capital asset, while the other gets their wealth from what they produce. This is a rather general sort of split, though the details of different industries do matter.
Tories cutting taxes, more to come, will make us all better off...that's how you tackle the so-called ''cost of living crisis''....
but no ideas or proposals from duffer Starmer....to help us.
The Tories have no hope
So we can give the result of the election before it happens poor tories gone great love to see the voters faces after six months of starmers promises which won’t materialise
I just don’t understand how Brexit voters were unable to understand that Brexit was a vote to move towards being a far-right country.
Especially people like Peter who is openly pro immigration. So what did he vote for?
As well as he speaks he spent his career basically attacking anything not Tory and now doesn’t like the result he was part of creating.
No...Brexit was about removing the UK from an unelected EU dictatorship and becoming a free, democratic, sovereign nation...once again.
You should have finished with your first four words!
Ah! Where are the good old days of 1789.
Oborne sounds like paul whitehouse the old fart sketch. I was of course very dwunk at the time 😂
Love spring calfs.
we need PR so they don't come back
Pensioners pay tax on their other pension why have older people vote conservative they believe that this is a way of protecting their way of life but selling of the family silver has wasted or future.
You don't pay tax on the money you put into your pension. You pay the tax when you take it out.
So richly deserved.
Brexit - a bad idea done dishonestly by a bunch of ideological spivs with no planning or preparation. The Tory Party had to sack its best politicians in order to get it through which left us with only the bottom of the barrel scrapings to form present governments. We're obviously in a real mess despite all the resources of government being focussed on hiding the damage. A tragic mistake done badly - what could go wrong apart from everything?
Worst of all, I do not believe that civilisation can sustain itself without us realising that the only way forward is to stop the silly flag waving and arrogant nationalistic boasting and realise that we must learn to share and cooperate - cooperation means peace and plenty for all but sadly Britain loves conflict, war and winning even though that guarantees poverty, war and loss.
Best in the world? Britain is now the shame of the world- a country with so much but too selfish, paranoid and small minded to move into a better future for Europe than the past millennia of constant war and destruction.
Brexit was initially ruined by the unconstitutional opposition. The Benn Act was the worst form of self-harm ever voted for in this country by members, with a very small 'm', of it's own.
They said Neil Kinnock was going to win but, we all remember that outcome. It's not over until the votes are counted.
Six very long months to go. Cutting tax always triumphs against increasing them.
Over 65 and I’ve never voted Tory. I would have liked to retire to Europe, very hard to impossible now.
You are still in Europe! It was the EU we left, not Europe!
@@jstewart4205 Most of Europe is in the EU, with a small number of exceptions. You can’t retire to Monaco or Switzerland unless you are a millionaire.
I share that rather neat summary in the headlines.
The Tories are at a point where it doesn't matter, and that's what makes this all worrying. There is an obvious lack of governance within their own party, based on the constant deluge of scandals and leaks, now its just them doing what they feel like. It's going to be impossible for Labour (as it's likely they get in) to sort out any mess without having to make massive compromises, and I'm sure the press will make sure each mistake is highlighted so they can get the Tories back in as fast as they can.
Are you cultivating in slippers?!!! 😂
Great photo and video btw x
Land with the opportunity to attract environmental subsidies is the new opportunity for asset managers backed by the Tories. Make farming unsustainable for small farmers, buy up the land, eg. Dyson etc.sit back and claim the subsidies, easy.