Beautiful Landing. On the touchdown zone! Firm is not unusual in most of the islands due to short runways and water on each end of the runway. No room for soft landings. We aren't in LA, Chicago, or New York. Just around 6600 feet in Pohnpie. I've flown them all. B737-800
I wish pilots would announce something like this so the passengers don't get a fright. Even if they just said "expect a hard bump - it's unavoidable because of the short runway but it's perfectly safe".
This is my dream! One day I have to take this unique route, hopping the many Islands of the great Pacific Ocean in a Boeing 737! I have watched so many videos of this route over and over, and they never cease to make me crave doing it in person! Great video!
I missed the FSM (Federated States of Micronesia) so much I traveled all the beautiful islands there before between 1988 to 1992 from Guam, Saipan, Yap, Palau, Truk (Chuuk now) Kosrae, Ponape (Pohnpei now), Marshall Islands, Majuro and many more during my mission years as an LDS Elder. It was still CONTINENTAL AIR MICRONESIA then, best islands hopper, Thanks for this video, I feel emotional looking at those lovely atolls, volcanic islands and lagoons in the Pacific Rim.
Sometimes, in Pacific islands, runway are shorts ( very ) .... and it's difficult to make a " kiss landing " for the pilot ! in this condition ... for me it's a " normal " landing in this case .... ( it's not a little plane but 737 800 more distance to stop ..... and no more runway so hard landing )
There are scheduled B77E flights into an airport with the same size runway, so no excuses here. That airport is Wellington, in New Zealand, which commonly has high crosswinds on its only runway.
The plane did seem to come in a little high over the runway, therefore it had to be planted down quite abruptly. Needless to say it's better to have a hard landing and be able to stop the plane, than to make a smooth landing and overshoot the runway. On that note, some smooth landings are the result of "floating", which results in more runway being used up before the wheels touch down, and that's actually dangerous.
You must not fly airplanes or to the least, have ever had to land an aircraft on a short runway. If it's a short runway, who cares if the landing is "soft", the point is to get it down and stopped, but we try to make it comfortable for passengers. At the end of the day, even during training, short field landings are to be firm and stopped with the least amount of runway used.
so, i'm not a 737 800's pilot , it's a great job.... but i pilot just a "ulm" microlight plane that all, but i like flying. i live near a airport Rouen France (LFOP ) and the runway is 1700m ( 518ft ) considering short runway for a 737 ( example ) and Pohnpei is a 1829m ( 557ft) .... and sometimes with a bad condition it was short for this type of plane! " go around" after 2 or 3 time direction to LFPG or LFPO!
While working with United MAJ and constantly going through the Island Hopper to and from Guam, have always been told by several senior pilots that Kosrae was one of the shortest runways they fly to (upon landing and spoilers armed, you feel the brakes pulling you towards kissing the seat in front of you) while Pohnpei was always the toughest landing due to breaking mountain waves from the Sokehs Rock you see at 18:28. HD Quality is insane.
I'm so glad to hear this. On my flight we all thought we had a roughly trained pilot but what happened matches your description exactly. Kosrae landing pushed everyone forward to the seat in front and the Pohnpei landing was wobbly, seeming like weird side winds, then a super-hard bumpy landing which unnerved the passengers.
+Taylor Haney Was pretty neat!! Check out the landing/takeoff in Majuro!! Landing on an Atoll was a totally cool experience!! :P Thanks again for watching!!
Those ETOPS 737's are rather impressive. Sure beats the DC-8 and 707 of the days of yore! That must be a very short runway for the pilot to drop it in like that! Very nice work (you and the pilot).
Beautiful shots & GREAT sound...almost sounded like a 757 climbing outta there. Hopefully bein slammed onto the asphalt @150mph didn't spoil the experience, ha...Nate- Pittsburgh, PA
In 2008 a Boeing 727 cargo jet overran the runway and the airport had to be closed for 6 days. It's been lengthened, but still looks short on the maps. Looks like the pilot has to put down fast, and this is probably common with jets this size. The crew is used to it, and there's no sense warning the passengers. "Ladies and gentlemen, this aircraft likes about 1,500 meters to stop, and that's about all we got, so hang on."
+Harry Maier In Wellington airport, in New Zealand, with a similar length runway, it is not uncommon to land B789, B77W, and soon a sheduled B77E. Historically, both the 747SR and SP were sheduled in.
Love the sound of the engines up near full thrust... that buzzing kind of sound. I never heard or at least noticed it before back in 2009 I was on a 767 either to or from Amsterdam from NYC... I guess it would have been KBDL (Bradley International) to Schipol which they might not even run anymore. Anyone know why , having flown before on other 737's and A320s and such , even CRJ, ERJ and MD80s I never heard that noise until the 767..? Which btw was particularly loud to me, the overall noise inside.
The hard landing is intentional. When runways are short they have to put it down right away and apply max brakes. If they flare or float just a second to long they'll have to go around. It's basic procedure to slam it into the runway right when you get over it.
***** Obviously the pilots would love to make a smooth landing. However, when there is a short runway that test your range of slowing down you have to get the plane on the ground. You come in a bit slower and do a short field landing procedure where you don't have time to float over the runway and you start flaring a bit earlier. However depending on the airport you can't start to flare possibly due to a lower elevation of land in front of the runway, trees, power lines etc. Therefore you come in at a speed just above stall speed and get the plane on the ground. As a result you get a nice hard landing. Hope that makes sense to you
+Zg G that runway is not short. It may be by American standards, but I regularly get perfect landings on a runway shorter than this in both B737 and A320
+DNP_10 Thanks!! You and I both!! Had no idea what I was in for when I booked this! I cant wait to do it again!! Check out this video --> ua-cam.com/video/kNwiyzeF46k/v-deo.html - Its the whole island hopper! 6 takeoff's and landings :)
Did the pilots not lower speed enough before they touched the ground? Because they speeded up before they were over the runway and started to slow down when the wheel just touched the ground.
Pohnpei has a really short runway, i can only assume that max brakes were set to immediately halt the plane. That being said, the brakes probably caused the jerkish reaction. Seemed like a good short approach
+Paolo Gatdula Was a short runway for sure! Though, this was a very hard landing and didn't have much to do with the brakes. Since these flights were on a short schedule, max reversers were used to help slow us down, so the brakes wouldn't overheat.
+AvgeekYVR - RTWTravel this runway length is very common for the B738 outside of America, and can easily take off for an over 3 hour flight off it. This is no excuse. Even with a bastard of a crosswind and below the glide landing, I still had a far better landing on a shorter runway. Also, I had a better landing in thick fog on the third attempt halfway down the 6000ft runway, however this was in a B733
I gotta say, that was a pretty good smack of a touchdown. However, the Pohnpei runway is a total distance of 6001 ft. However (part 2), the pilots are aiming for the 1000' marker (which now gives them 5000' to stop in). For a 737-900... that's pretty snug. Best get it on the pavement, spoilers out, reversers, and med to max auto brakes lest they have to reject the landing and give it another go.
The only reason why the pilot did'nt butter was because if he did, he would not have much runway left, and would have to execute a go around, or risk making a runway overrun.
+Great Britain Yep!! Don't forget they have a hub in Guam. Continental originally had this route, through the islands, and United has since taken over.
***** I am only a Student... but I can see how the 738 can be greased in on 5,600. I thought this was more around 4,500 or somewhere around there. I also have no CLUE as to landing distance for the 738.
+Harry Maier Okay, thanks for clearing that up... I thought this was around 4,000 ft. (I am only a student... and have no idea what the landing distance is for a B738/739.) By the way, who do you fly for? Greetings from KLMO/KDEN/KAPA.
Did you hear about the new United 777-300er that will be arriving at the end of august and the Polaris business lounge cant wait to fly on one of those
my kidney hurt me after that!. lol.pien so que talvezz sii el avion viene mas bajo ,, o sea a menor altura cuando esta al comienso del runway .., fuera menos traumatico el touchdown. yo diria a lesss grade glide slope
Oliver Yeah i know but that still doesn't mean you have to practically slam the plane onto the runway. The runway at the Sunshine Coast airport is shorter than this (by around 100m) and our pilots managed a very soft landing there.
but this big thing of metal can get damaged or worn away quickly when landings like this happen, and its not comfortable for the passengers who are alive and have feelings
+FSim Channel those are the new-ish split scimitar winglets they are installing to increase efficiency and lower fuel burn. They're pretty sharp looking!
He actually made a very good landing. It is a short runway and a 737-800 would probably use it all if he didn't put it down firmly and get it stopped quicker than usual.
+Andrew Bodden Thankfully not LOL.. I think the maintenance engineer onboard ended up doing an inspection, but all was good, and we took off about 30-40 minutes later to Chuuk.
Beautiful Landing. On the touchdown zone! Firm is not unusual in most of the islands due to short runways and water on each end of the runway. No room for soft landings. We aren't in LA, Chicago, or New York. Just around 6600 feet in Pohnpie. I've flown them all. B737-800
Awesome!! Such beautiful islands!!
I wish pilots would announce something like this so the passengers don't get a fright. Even if they just said "expect a hard bump - it's unavoidable because of the short runway but it's perfectly safe".
This is my dream! One day I have to take this unique route, hopping the many Islands of the great Pacific Ocean in a Boeing 737! I have watched so many videos of this route over and over, and they never cease to make me crave doing it in person! Great video!
I missed the FSM (Federated States of Micronesia) so much I traveled all the beautiful islands there before between 1988 to 1992 from Guam, Saipan, Yap, Palau, Truk (Chuuk now) Kosrae, Ponape (Pohnpei now), Marshall Islands, Majuro and many more during my mission years as an LDS Elder. It was still CONTINENTAL AIR MICRONESIA then, best islands hopper, Thanks for this video, I feel emotional looking at those lovely atolls, volcanic islands and lagoons in the Pacific Rim.
Sometimes, in Pacific islands, runway are shorts ( very ) .... and it's difficult to make a " kiss landing " for the pilot ! in this condition ... for me it's a " normal " landing in this case .... ( it's not a little plane but 737 800 more distance to stop ..... and no more runway so hard landing )
There are scheduled B77E flights into an airport with the same size runway, so no excuses here. That airport is Wellington, in New Zealand, which commonly has high crosswinds on its only runway.
The plane did seem to come in a little high over the runway, therefore it had to be planted down quite abruptly. Needless to say it's better to have a hard landing and be able to stop the plane, than to make a smooth landing and overshoot the runway. On that note, some smooth landings are the result of "floating", which results in more runway being used up before the wheels touch down, and that's actually dangerous.
You must not fly airplanes or to the least, have ever had to land an aircraft on a short runway. If it's a short runway, who cares if the landing is "soft", the point is to get it down and stopped, but we try to make it comfortable for passengers. At the end of the day, even during training, short field landings are to be firm and stopped with the least amount of runway used.
so, i'm not a 737 800's pilot , it's a great job.... but i pilot just a "ulm" microlight plane that all, but i like flying. i live near a airport Rouen France (LFOP ) and the runway is 1700m ( 518ft ) considering short runway for a 737 ( example ) and Pohnpei is a 1829m ( 557ft) .... and sometimes with a bad condition it was short for this type of plane! " go around" after 2 or 3 time direction to LFPG or LFPO!
xavier lacorne its a good landing if you can walk away from it
While working with United MAJ and constantly going through the Island Hopper to and from Guam, have always been told by several senior pilots that Kosrae was one of the shortest runways they fly to (upon landing and spoilers armed, you feel the brakes pulling you towards kissing the seat in front of you) while Pohnpei was always the toughest landing due to breaking mountain waves from the Sokehs Rock you see at 18:28. HD Quality is insane.
I'm so glad to hear this. On my flight we all thought we had a roughly trained pilot but what happened matches your description exactly. Kosrae landing pushed everyone forward to the seat in front and the Pohnpei landing was wobbly, seeming like weird side winds, then a super-hard bumpy landing which unnerved the passengers.
By far the coolest airport I've seen yet!
+Taylor Haney Was pretty neat!! Check out the landing/takeoff in Majuro!! Landing on an Atoll was a totally cool experience!! :P Thanks again for watching!!
a Textbook RyanAir Landing. They already know how sturdy the 738 landing gear is ..... Just smash it.
The airport is so different with the one in big cities.. Lovely footage tho :) Liked and subscribed
Hard landing due to short runway
Hard landing due to lack of finesse.
Gun Nut, Not that aircraft, but I've got a few hundred landings in another jet at PNI. So I've got a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about.
you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Watch this : ua-cam.com/video/IwZRkastN8k/v-deo.html nothing to do with "finesse".
Those ETOPS 737's are rather impressive. Sure beats the DC-8 and 707 of the days of yore! That must be a very short runway for the pilot to drop it in like that! Very nice work (you and the pilot).
short runway need to land asap no time for kisses.
The landing in RyanAir approved.
That was a very hard landing. If i were you, I would be very scared.
Beautiful shots & GREAT sound...almost sounded like a 757 climbing outta there. Hopefully bein slammed onto the asphalt @150mph didn't spoil the experience, ha...Nate- Pittsburgh, PA
That was a hard landing...WOW!
no butter
In 2008 a Boeing 727 cargo jet overran the runway and the airport had to be closed for 6 days. It's been lengthened, but still looks short on the maps. Looks like the pilot has to put down fast, and this is probably common with jets this size. The crew is used to it, and there's no sense warning the passengers. "Ladies and gentlemen, this aircraft likes about 1,500 meters to stop, and that's about all we got, so hang on."
+Jason Wolffe Wow, I didn't know that!
10,000 hours. That is impressive, and I defer to your judgement.
+Harry Maier In Wellington airport, in New Zealand, with a similar length runway, it is not uncommon to land B789, B77W, and soon a sheduled B77E. Historically, both the 747SR and SP were sheduled in.
Good video
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Wow, that was a very hard landing, I jumped when I watched this!
Its becau se of the very short runway they need to lnd as soon as possible which means they most likely wont be able to butter the landing
Beautiful vid !! They probably had to put it down fast to avoid enhanced ocean views .,.
27k(max power) departure then a hard landing brilliant flight, and a great video
What a beautiful video. Really enjoyed it.
Former Ryanair pilot
Sure is
Damn that engine on that takeoff
Love the sound of the engines up near full thrust... that buzzing kind of sound. I never heard or at least noticed it before back in 2009 I was on a 767 either to or from Amsterdam from NYC... I guess it would have been KBDL (Bradley International) to Schipol which they might not even run anymore. Anyone know why , having flown before on other 737's and A320s and such , even CRJ, ERJ and MD80s I never heard that noise until the 767..? Which btw was particularly loud to me, the overall noise inside.
18:50 What a handshake :D
The hard landing is intentional. When runways are short they have to put it down right away and apply max brakes. If they flare or float just a second to long they'll have to go around. It's basic procedure to slam it into the runway right when you get over it.
***** Obviously the pilots would love to make a smooth landing. However, when there is a short runway that test your range of slowing down you have to get the plane on the ground. You come in a bit slower and do a short field landing procedure where you don't have time to float over the runway and you start flaring a bit earlier. However depending on the airport you can't start to flare possibly due to a lower elevation of land in front of the runway, trees, power lines etc. Therefore you come in at a speed just above stall speed and get the plane on the ground. As a result you get a nice hard landing. Hope that makes sense to you
+Zg G that runway is not short. It may be by American standards, but I regularly get perfect landings on a runway shorter than this in both B737 and A320
Not really though.
What are you talking about? How much do you fly? That was a normal landing.
That was a beautiful decent into phonpei great video
Get the plane on the ground, autospoilers up, and reversers going! Looked normal too me!
Awesome video! I was just blown away at the view! Also brace for impact at 18:50
+DNP_10 Thanks!! You and I both!! Had no idea what I was in for when I booked this! I cant wait to do it again!! Check out this video --> ua-cam.com/video/kNwiyzeF46k/v-deo.html - Its the whole island hopper! 6 takeoff's and landings :)
Did the pilots not lower speed enough before they touched the ground? Because they speeded up before they were over the runway and started to slow down when the wheel just touched the ground.
Gorgeous shots.
+Les Brown Thanks! :)
Did it hurt your neck when he dumped her?
Jesus!
Pohnpei has a really short runway, i can only assume that max brakes were set to immediately halt the plane. That being said, the brakes probably caused the jerkish reaction. Seemed like a good short approach
+Paolo Gatdula Was a short runway for sure! Though, this was a very hard landing and didn't have much to do with the brakes. Since these flights were on a short schedule, max reversers were used to help slow us down, so the brakes wouldn't overheat.
+AvgeekYVR - RTWTravel this runway length is very common for the B738 outside of America, and can easily take off for an over 3 hour flight off it. This is no excuse. Even with a bastard of a crosswind and below the glide landing, I still had a far better landing on a shorter runway. Also, I had a better landing in thick fog on the third attempt halfway down the 6000ft runway, however this was in a B733
it's so close! is this like a 10 min flight?
+1990s were amazing! Was pretty close!! Flight was about 45 minutes :)
I gotta say, that was a pretty good smack of a touchdown. However, the Pohnpei runway is a total distance of 6001 ft. However (part 2), the pilots are aiming for the 1000' marker (which now gives them 5000' to stop in). For a 737-900... that's pretty snug. Best get it on the pavement, spoilers out, reversers, and med to max auto brakes lest they have to reject the landing and give it another go.
The only reason why the pilot did'nt butter was because if he did, he would not have much runway left, and would have to execute a go around, or risk making a runway overrun.
That nacelle looks like a mirror ! Newly delivered aircraft ?
Nope, older delivery.. but did get a nice clean up before we left Honolulu that morning. Was a different story by the time we got to Guam.
lol the plane was in for a hard landing inspection after that i think! ;D
I can see the red tail lights , it looks like Daniel, must be the clouds in the sky.......
No joke!
HOLY CRAP !!!!!
+william zenon LOL.. I still feel that landing every time I watch this video :P
Stay strong man ;) !
200......100.......50...30..20.10 BANG shit.
hi thats a 737 max because of new wing tips and engine thank you for u bussenies
Jeannette Thomas this is a regular 737 with ‘Scimitar’ winglets. The wing tips on the MAX are different if you compare them next to each other.
for me was you, you drop the camera.
Was this is full flight
United Airlines in that place?!?!?
+Great Britain Yep!! Don't forget they have a hub in Guam. Continental originally had this route, through the islands, and United has since taken over.
K Tnx for replying👍
its an island hopper
jayjay2016 no its not its a 737.
Nice video!
Thank you!
oh yeaH, GOING DOWN
Landings like this are necessary most of the time for short island runways....
***** I am only a Student... but I can see how the 738 can be greased in on 5,600. I thought this was more around 4,500 or somewhere around there. I also have no CLUE as to landing distance for the 738.
+Harry Maier Okay, thanks for clearing that up... I thought this was around 4,000 ft. (I am only a student... and have no idea what the landing distance is for a B738/739.) By the way, who do you fly for? Greetings from KLMO/KDEN/KAPA.
+Harry Maier SQ fly the B77E from Wellington, which has a runway about 200ft longer.
Not really though.
how is ur back
lol
love pni!!
18:48. Thank me later😁
That must be around 92% takeoff thrust.
Wie ich mich bei der Werbung 18:49 erschreckt hab
(Taking nap) HOLY HELL FUCKSHIT
Landings are not always perfect a landing is great if you can walk alway from
you can see that becaus of the hard landing the nose toched down at the same time
I didn't know that United was related to RyanAir lol
why do planes today sound different than the ones in the 70s and 80s ? any one know
they shut it down
i even speak kosrae and bornin kosrae
avgeek looks like you nearly dropped your cam
+Royal Flame Almost LOL.. from the touchdown, it was more of a forward down jerking motion... The mechanic on board just shook his head :P
Did you hear about the new United 777-300er that will be arriving at the end of august and the Polaris business lounge cant wait to fly on one of those
what island has longer runway beside HNL and Guam?
honlulu
jayjay2016 hahaa..i think u r confused about my question. of course HNL. but clearly in my question, i was asking which island beside Guam and HNL.
FormEEh Ohyeah ok mmmmmm dont know
jayjay2016 lol.
FormEEh Ohyeah marshal island i think
my kidney hurt me after that!. lol.pien so que talvezz sii el avion viene mas bajo ,, o sea a menor altura cuando esta al comienso del runway .., fuera menos traumatico el touchdown. yo diria a lesss grade glide slope
The takeoff was very loud
😮
My neck would of broken if it shacked like the camera didlol
How often does United do this experience?
I think its 3 or 4 times per week. Its a milk run of theirs.
hello that united airlines it, airlines leaning on pohnpei lsland today my home sokehs
ouch! I think all pilots should be trained to land smooth on a short runway, nice video man!
i think the pilot was trying to break the plane.......
No the runway is very short
Oliver Yeah i know but that still doesn't mean you have to practically slam the plane onto the runway. The runway at the Sunshine Coast airport is shorter than this (by around 100m) and our pilots managed a very soft landing there.
You make it sound like planes are alive and have feelings. They are not human. it's just a big thing of metal
but this big thing of metal can get damaged or worn away quickly when landings like this happen, and its not comfortable for the passengers who are alive and have feelings
What camera do you have/use?
For all of my camera work inside the plane, I use my iPhone 6 :) Does a pretty good job!! Thanks for watching!!
Ouch.
the plane probably had a hard landing cause the runway is short...
Was a pretty short runway. I can still feel it every time I watch the landing LOL.
Thanks for watching!! :)
it seemed really smoooooothhhh to meh like a pound of toby down the huka Ur just weak so u camaraaaa whenttt ouer ur hand
pohepi
UNITED airlines? How?
Short Runway actually Hard Landings In Pohonpei is Extremely Common Since the Runway is only about 5,000 Feet long
RIP, landing gear.
This is an NG right?
Hey, it sure is!! B737-800, part of the NG family :) thanks for watching!
+FSim Channel that would have been nice. Maybe in a few years; definitely an NG :)
+FSim Channel those are the new-ish split scimitar winglets they are installing to increase efficiency and lower fuel burn. They're pretty sharp looking!
+FSim Channel the max has its own which are very unique if you compared the MAX's winglets to this planes ones you can see a differencee
Double flare xd
pohnpei
RIP landing gear.....
flair for what? you do not need huauahuah
Ryanair landing
0:51
Oh that cheesy music, what an airline
ouch
-500 fpm
I wonder if that shitty landing is still thinking about the pilot XD
He actually made a very good landing. It is a short runway and a 737-800 would probably use it all if he didn't put it down firmly and get it stopped quicker than usual.
Lol
PLEASE tell me he blew a tire... this made me Cringe
+Andrew Bodden Thankfully not LOL.. I think the maintenance engineer onboard ended up doing an inspection, but all was good, and we took off about 30-40 minutes later to Chuuk.
And that kids is why you don’t fly with united
That´s NOT a "crazy hard landing"!
😂😂😂 if you’ve seen my channel, I think I qualify to say what’s a hard land or not. Lol I sat in the seat. You watched on your screen. 🤣🤦♀️✈️