Used to be 95.4% RTP. Now 91.2% RTP. When an extra '0' was added they needed an extra 'odds' and as you can guess it was '10-1'. That and with the 'pre-gamble con', just run a mile.
Thought I give it a try, put in £50 on this Golden odds roulette in a Ladbrokes or Ladcrooks my bets were between £3.80 & £4.20 which meant my stakes qualified for a go on the "spinner" how wonderful ! Well I managed 4 winning spinners out of the £50 where every bet lost so what a con. The result was I actually had 4 bets at £4 each = £16 staked but cost £50. Would have made more sense to have dumped the £50 down the drain outside, certainly would have been quicker.
A programmer mentioned elsewhere on another thread that the spinner and bar are compensated. A separate 'bolt on' application to the wheel. In other words, whilst the number is fixed odds and random under the 2019 £2 limit, the spinner/bar looks at wins/losses elsewhere as well as apparently having a 'hidden edge' of a few percent. I think the 'compensation' is also used to help keep premises with few players profitable. Compensating the operator by ripping people off here and there. There are £ overheads running a betting shop like Ladbrokes.
how they managed to bring the gamble feature in , the green bar ,which results in decreased spin time and has you can see can soon eat the money , they got away with murder again when the 2 pound spin should have had a minimum spin time
I’ve seen this take over £100 to activate a £12 spin, which duly lost. This game is bad enough as it is without the variance being so wide on the pie gamble. An absolute abomination, it gives rape a bad name.
@@richardlamb5888 I’ve long thought there must be chicanery involved somewhere with the pre gamble. Very enlightening. The game is basically a slot dressed up as roulette, very deceptive
I don’t play the fobt in Ladbrokes as they are tooooo aggressive! U either get something or NOTHING! There is no inbetween! There is a video on UA-cam discussing how the programming on the fobt has been changed!!
@hakansukur1627 I’ll have a mooch and get it for you, It discusses how some American company does the software for all the fobt machines! All the payouts are now averaged at 92% which has been reduced! The programming seems to be a win or a slap across the face and no inbetween!! I have emails where I emailed the gambling commission regarding the numerous near misses on the new roulette and I had to threaten them with legal action just to get them to reply and even then they were vague!!
Bookies is supposed to be a gambling establishment but its not gambling when these machines are rigged to fuck and you can only win when the terminal says win not fkn random at all 😡
@@JohnSmith-ls8tk well maybe the fact that I have quit my job to gamble and currently own 4x houses and my dream car I’m sure my knowledge would be very appreciated
Used to be 95.4% RTP. Now 91.2% RTP. When an extra '0' was added they needed an extra 'odds' and as you can guess it was '10-1'. That and with the 'pre-gamble con', just run a mile.
Thought I give it a try, put in £50 on this Golden odds roulette in a Ladbrokes or Ladcrooks my bets were between £3.80 & £4.20 which meant my stakes qualified for a go on the "spinner" how wonderful ! Well I managed 4 winning spinners out of the £50 where every bet lost so what a con.
The result was I actually had 4 bets at £4 each = £16 staked but cost £50. Would have made more sense to have dumped the £50 down the drain outside, certainly would have been quicker.
A programmer mentioned elsewhere on another thread that the spinner and bar are compensated. A separate 'bolt on' application to the wheel. In other words, whilst the number is fixed odds and random under the 2019 £2 limit, the spinner/bar looks at wins/losses elsewhere as well as apparently having a 'hidden edge' of a few percent. I think the 'compensation' is also used to help keep premises with few players profitable. Compensating the operator by ripping people off here and there. There are £ overheads running a betting shop like Ladbrokes.
Brutal session ...
I've just played this @21/5 - normal odds and the 'pre-gamble' is perpetually and completely bent. Never again.
There fucking absolutely shocking these things shouldn’t be allowed on the high st I put £290 in and not one number a ain’t kidding
I put maximum on one number only and it comes by 100 yesterday, £500 only one spin. 😄
Like taking candy from a baby 🤑
Sick isn't it
Do you value your free will?
Go online and play live casino , no good these things lads . I guarantee you'll get more hits online live than the fobts
how they managed to bring the gamble feature in , the green bar ,which results in decreased spin time and has you can see can soon eat the money , they got away with murder again when the 2 pound spin should have had a minimum spin time
I’ve seen this take over £100 to activate a £12 spin, which duly lost. This game is bad enough as it is without the variance being so wide on the pie gamble. An absolute abomination, it gives rape a bad name.
Chances of losing £100 before getting a £12 spin are about 1 in 10,000. Please note the comments above though on compensation. Thanks.
@@richardlamb5888 I’ve long thought there must be chicanery involved somewhere with the pre gamble. Very enlightening. The game is basically a slot dressed up as roulette, very deceptive
They would take a old grannys pension walking in on a zimmer frame pure theft
I don’t play the fobt in Ladbrokes as they are tooooo aggressive! U either get something or NOTHING! There is no inbetween! There is a video on UA-cam discussing how the programming on the fobt has been changed!!
@hakansukur1627 I’ll have a mooch and get it for you, It discusses how some American company does the software for all the fobt machines! All the payouts are now averaged at 92% which has been reduced! The programming seems to be a win or a slap across the face and no inbetween!! I have emails where I emailed the gambling commission regarding the numerous near misses on the new roulette and I had to threaten them with legal action just to get them to reply and even then they were vague!!
Shocking
Worst game and fix you can’t even win on these anymore waste of time.
Bookies is supposed to be a gambling establishment but its not gambling when these machines are rigged to fuck and you can only win when the terminal says win not fkn random at all 😡
Your doing it wtong5
TRAGIC
Should of gone casino and chucked all on zero
Been playing this today this game rinses the hell out of you horrible game
there a scam never play them
Knob
Excellent comment 🤣
Talk about playing the game wrong hahahaha
Tell us ...
@@JohnSmith-ls8tk well maybe the fact that I have quit my job to gamble and currently own 4x houses and my dream car I’m sure my knowledge would be very appreciated
@@Mynameisntjeff147 as I said ...tell us then
@@Mynameisntjeff147 4 houses 😂 tents aren't houses pal
@@JohnSmith-ls8tk hahaha you will never know pip squeak try having some respect to the richer and you might get somewhere in life little man