Ultimate Propeller Test!

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  • @lupo5482
    @lupo5482 Рік тому +5880

    You should put some small weights not to many though just to balance it.

  • @adinandrewhensley7529
    @adinandrewhensley7529 Рік тому +810

    It’s not just propeller size. It’s also propeller pitch. Depending on the pitch, it’ll have more acceleration/torque or more top speed.

    • @ianwright6893
      @ianwright6893 11 місяців тому +6

      Also knife edge the front of the propeller blades and smooth the front and rear almost to a polished finish….. Then you can graduate to removing material of the blade to create a mild cup to further tune the prop.

    • @ianwright6893
      @ianwright6893 11 місяців тому +1

      I wanted to post this to you so maybe you can further this info with your comment

    • @adinandrewhensley7529
      @adinandrewhensley7529 10 місяців тому

      Will do 👍😁

    • @sabishahid215
      @sabishahid215 7 місяців тому

      Make propeller smooth

    • @paulh2981
      @paulh2981 3 місяці тому +1

      That makes sense! I bet the variables determining the proper size and pitch ratio are the weight and drag of the boat or sub, and the type of motor (higher HP vs higher torque)

  • @MeemerPro143
    @MeemerPro143 Рік тому +2085

    Make the front of the boat narrower and sharper. It will reduce the resistance given by the water and will provide more speed. Don't forget to add little weight to the bottom of the boat to balance it or else it will flip

    • @yuanfurbax
      @yuanfurbax Рік тому +10

      Doesn't have to be sharper

    • @skyfallback
      @skyfallback Рік тому +65

      @@yuanfurbaxyes it does due to the high resistance and pressure of the water compared to air with low resistance and very low pressure.

    • @AdniteSean
      @AdniteSean Рік тому +13

      Longer hull will also give stability. But I agree, too long and it'll capsize easily.

    • @connorthomas2667
      @connorthomas2667 11 місяців тому +4

      Bigger boat + more smooth design and more ballasts for better stability

    • @yuanfurbax
      @yuanfurbax 11 місяців тому

      @@skyfallback but why sharper? Why isn't narrower enough?

  • @benjaminkim1
    @benjaminkim1 Рік тому +188

    For those wondering why 4 wasn’t the fastest, it is pretty big so it creates drag

    • @cincau3243
      @cincau3243 Рік тому +19

      Yeah, and the boat is too light so the control would be wild

    • @Svabre
      @Svabre Рік тому +3

      aren’t cavitations also an issue with 4?

    • @phillyphakename1255
      @phillyphakename1255 Рік тому +6

      Yeah, nah. I'm guessing it is an issue with motor torque vs efficiency. Bigger prop needs more torque from the motor to drive, which I'm guessing is over the hump.

    • @gameseeker6307
      @gameseeker6307 Рік тому

      Maybe it conpromises volume moved with weight?

    • @ririfiri3243
      @ririfiri3243 11 місяців тому +3

      It's as that turque guy said. Bigger = more torque on motor = less rotational speed.
      He need to map out that time on a graph to get the best propeller size for that specific motor and boat.

  • @IIGrayfoxII
    @IIGrayfoxII Рік тому +75

    Welcome to the world of Fluid dynamics.
    Bigger is not always better.

    • @paulh2981
      @paulh2981 3 місяці тому

      Then why do big ships have enormous propellers instead of millions of #3 here

    • @littlecreeper8543
      @littlecreeper8543 Місяць тому +1

      @@paulh2981 because its not feasibly possible to have missions of propellers on the back of a ship in both resource costs and weird hydrodynamic things that make it worse than those big propellers. Its the same reason we dont have a hotel thats 20 miles long and 20 miles wide, it may be more effecient housing in terms of people per square foot but it runs into alot of other issues from resource cost, to terrain, to building stability, and much more.

  • @angjelosbegaj9261
    @angjelosbegaj9261 7 місяців тому +1

    Naval architecture and marine engineer here. For that scale of propeller and power on it I strongly advise to reshape the hull if possible. If not at least make it longer or thinner.

  • @countrystrong01
    @countrystrong01 Рік тому +361

    gotta fill and sand that propeller, the smoother the surface the better it will work

  • @stuffing09
    @stuffing09 Рік тому +9

    “1 is the smallest and 4 is the biggest. Lets do a thrust test”

  • @selbendersiinge69
    @selbendersiinge69 4 місяці тому +2

    You need to design a hull that allows the boat to glide and exceed its hullspeed.

  • @MountainYucker
    @MountainYucker Рік тому +54

    A lead keel would be very helpful for stability although you will slow down a bit

    • @makermandan
      @makermandan  Рік тому +11

      Interesting, I've never heard of that!

    • @lampospaceagency751
      @lampospaceagency751 Рік тому +4

      You could add a small gyroscope btw

    • @MountainYucker
      @MountainYucker Рік тому +1

      @@makermandan lead as in the metal not as in the adjective

    • @Vahlsten
      @Vahlsten Рік тому +1

      You could try making it a hydrofoil boat...

    • @AnonOmis1000
      @AnonOmis1000 Рік тому

      Real life boats use lead in their keels

  • @milespeterson5049
    @milespeterson5049 7 місяців тому +2

    Next upgrade: "Add a fin on the back so it's more aerodynamic."

  • @Aussie-mapper
    @Aussie-mapper Рік тому +11

    Get a mini version of yourself either doing titanic or paragliding ☺️

  • @lolclimbingshggfhdh2915
    @lolclimbingshggfhdh2915 Рік тому +5

    maybe use 2 contra rotating props to increase stability as it looks like the torque is twisting the hull of your boat. Its a similar fix they used in ww2 on planes. even 2 side by side props would probably mitigate it if they spin opposite directions. See the p38 lightning for that configuration

  • @Logan.Fr-s
    @Logan.Fr-s Рік тому +6

    Btw the size isn’t the only thing you should change you should also see what tilt/pitch of the blades on the propeller becuase that will give more power or more speed

    • @makermandan
      @makermandan  Рік тому +2

      That's true, but I wanted to control for pitch in this experiment.

    • @Logan.Fr-s
      @Logan.Fr-s Рік тому

      @@makermandanI don’t understand what your saying?

    • @Logan.Fr-s
      @Logan.Fr-s Рік тому

      @@makermandanalso a extra wide catamaran style hull could help with stability

    • @jochenillerhausji
      @jochenillerhausji 11 місяців тому

      When optimizing pitch this thrust at speed zero experiment might not be the best idea. Propellers with a high pitch should reach their max thrust at high boat speeds. Essentially increasing the boats top speed whilst making it harder/slower to accelerate from zero. Also consider, that your propeller might actually spin to fast. You might want to consider a larger propeller driven at a slower speed by adding some form of gear box/transmission.

  • @lavanyamutyala2680
    @lavanyamutyala2680 8 місяців тому +1

    you can use a smaller propeller but with steeper wings

  • @AlexChavezPhotography
    @AlexChavezPhotography Рік тому +7

    Toroidal propeller

  • @tspin5642
    @tspin5642 Рік тому +2

    Chafe the hull shape for a better drag coefficient

  • @mr.ALoeVera
    @mr.ALoeVera Рік тому +6

    Maybe make the boat more hydrodynamic and lower the center of gravity to make it less likely to flip over

  • @PSNPerfectNinja
    @PSNPerfectNinja Рік тому +6

    Toroidal propeller! That's your next upgrade. Also, I need to see these tests again with similar sizes of toroidal props. I predict the same size optimization, but significantly more thrust

  • @Allmyfe74s
    @Allmyfe74s Місяць тому +1

    You should put 2 propellers symetrically identics to compense the forces made by the motors

  • @enzofederici9805
    @enzofederici9805 Рік тому +4

    A bump in the front of the boat to break the water

  • @TheCasualBanjiYT
    @TheCasualBanjiYT Рік тому +1

    You should use a resin printer for bigger propellers that way they come out smooth and work faster

  • @FoxyFlare1
    @FoxyFlare1 Рік тому

    In my opinion i would choose the 2nd propeller 2 because it balances the speed and enough handling making it unique and impossible to flip itself.

  • @LeMonke27
    @LeMonke27 Рік тому

    This is the guy in all science questions we did when they carried out an experiment

  • @Henry-zw5fv
    @Henry-zw5fv Рік тому +1

    Ngl I'd really enjoy seeing you add British naval cannons from the 1800s

  • @datgamer-wl7ng
    @datgamer-wl7ng Місяць тому

    Also play with prop pitch. it will help with either low end acceleration or top end speed

  • @bcd2107
    @bcd2107 8 місяців тому

    It's about matching the pitch and diameter of the prop to make the motor operate at the optimum RPM to make maximum torque.

  • @yor_201
    @yor_201 7 місяців тому +1

    Use Turbine instead of propellers. They're way more efficient.

  • @Jonas_Husu
    @Jonas_Husu 9 місяців тому +1

    Use a keel to control the direction

  • @wildmax_playz
    @wildmax_playz Рік тому

    Multiple propeller set up means the two rotating forces will nullify each other, that helps with stability

  • @ferhanslamang370
    @ferhanslamang370 3 місяці тому

    You should make a graph using excel and plot the propeller diameter on the x axis and the thrust on the y axis. If you extrapolate the curve, you can see exactly what radius of propeller will give you the most force before it starts to lose power

  • @Gero_chill
    @Gero_chill 4 місяці тому +1

    But two propellers and do like a tank and use each one to move to one direction and both to go straight ahead/ try making it more aerodynamic

  • @hevayarms
    @hevayarms 8 місяців тому

    Those propellers are great they would work better if they were just smooth down a little bit more. that's some great work

  • @Randomfactsofwar
    @Randomfactsofwar Рік тому

    That boat needs bilge keels and a slimmer stem for increased stability and decreased wave resistance, which ultimately makes a more stable and faster vessel

  • @Poopie69420
    @Poopie69420 2 місяці тому

    Bro my UA-cam is crazy it goes from wholesome to horrid ahh temu ad to this dude making a boat

  • @cartler
    @cartler Рік тому +1

    Can you try printing toroidal propellers? They're a recent kind of innovation and they're quiter, produce less wake, and are more efficient.

    • @MrMindaSchmit
      @MrMindaSchmit 8 місяців тому

      they are quieter, not more efficient. they create less thrust than regular props

  • @dne3142
    @dne3142 8 місяців тому

    If you make the Hull sit deeper in the water, you'll get more stability. kind of like a fishing kayak compared to a river kayak. You can do this by adding some weights to the bottom to make the boat a little heavier. Another thing you can do is make some little outriggers so it can't flip

  • @brockmason2887
    @brockmason2887 11 місяців тому

    You should balance the props with an rc prop balancer and the blades need a more aggressive angle.

  • @ninjabaiano6092
    @ninjabaiano6092 Рік тому +1

    Your boat would improve by having a "underwater nose" and body it will stabilize the fourth propeler and might also help if you use two propelers instead. Which should be spinning oposite of each other. Also dont forget to put some weight underwater which should not change with the movement! Soo no water or sand or grains you need actually ballast there.

  • @_AlanXD
    @_AlanXD Рік тому

    Add some small fin at the bottom to redirect the flow of water making the boat go straighter as well as a small fin to make your boat turn when you wanted to

  • @jannikwinkler3544
    @jannikwinkler3544 Місяць тому +1

    You should put a v12 and a twin turbo in that thing

  • @Fastthings8080
    @Fastthings8080 2 місяці тому

    Consider some shaping to allow more waterflow to the prop

  • @letsgogaming-nm5bu
    @letsgogaming-nm5bu 11 місяців тому

    You should add-on floats on both sides to make it float better and increase stability And on those floats on the side you could move your propellers there for better turning

  • @paulschottke948
    @paulschottke948 Рік тому

    A great example that bigger doesn't always mean better. Good job liked the video.

  • @whatsthematter8767
    @whatsthematter8767 2 місяці тому

    Here’s what I would recommend: use a higher Kv motor, that one is wayyy too low to efficiently use one of those props. If you use a higher Kv motor, you will have less torque (you’re not even barely using the torque this motor has) but a higher top end RPM.

  • @glitchercrew838
    @glitchercrew838 9 місяців тому

    You should zero the scale right before thrust test on each propeller so you only get the thrust not the weight of the wood

  • @benfake1119
    @benfake1119 8 місяців тому

    You should make propellers slightly smaller and larger than 3 and see which one works better. Then keep doing that until you find the most efficient propeller size. Then do it with different sized/weighted vessels. Do it all the way up to an oil tanker and revolutionize the marine industry. Good luck!

  • @TheMeatHeads_
    @TheMeatHeads_ Рік тому

    You should really print some higher quality ones for boat propellers to be efficient. It is really really important for them to be a smooth as possible and as balanced as possible for the best hydrodynamics and probably use some sandpaper

  • @ayartyom12
    @ayartyom12 Рік тому

    Its depending.small prop is for faster acceleration while big prop is for higher top speed

  • @griffynrobertson1742
    @griffynrobertson1742 9 місяців тому

    Use Is tubes on the inSide So that any water that gets inside can be emptied out and create Slight propulsion Automatically

  • @JohnnyManu40
    @JohnnyManu40 Рік тому

    Put a tube under the center of the boat with two angled cuts on either side to let side water rush through as well. Put this in line with the front of the propeller, and it should (i think) create more of a jet like effect.

  • @mdbgamer556
    @mdbgamer556 Рік тому

    Propeller three seems like it's a perfect middle ground.

  • @RussellStudiosUSA
    @RussellStudiosUSA 10 місяців тому +1

    Add a flamethrower

  • @ZacaiusDrake
    @ZacaiusDrake Рік тому

    Have 2 propellers instead of one.
    - If you have them at the front and positioned off either side, you would have better and tighter control during movement and more stability when accelerating.

  • @fpvstylze
    @fpvstylze 2 місяці тому

    Prop 4 will have the highest top speed as water resistance gets less the faster you go 😊

  • @The_HandsomeGamer
    @The_HandsomeGamer 2 місяці тому +1

    Next upgrade: put ww2 landing forces inside

  • @JumpercraftYT
    @JumpercraftYT Рік тому +1

    Honestly it depends on the KV of your motor, not the size of the prop. Also, nice boat

  • @thenightforce3077
    @thenightforce3077 9 місяців тому

    Add Wings/flippers to the sides for move flow and add fans on the wings for minimum dragback

  • @WonkOfWonkyness
    @WonkOfWonkyness Рік тому

    I have an idea that came from military helicopter engineering that could make the stronger rotors more stable. Twin rotors. Take a rotor place it put another behind it, flip it and make it turn in the opposite direction with the same ammount of power to make the inertial forces balance out and the thrust reach twice the normal level.

  • @Trashshooter
    @Trashshooter 8 місяців тому

    Add a curved roof for aerodynamics, but make sure the tol of the curve is very flat, then add 40mm cannon

  • @Mr.EndermanC14
    @Mr.EndermanC14 5 місяців тому

    I advise you to use propeller 1 but with a sharper blade. You also need to make the front of the boat so the boat doesn't have resistance.

  • @13B-POWAH
    @13B-POWAH Рік тому

    now you need to make the front end more streamlined, should help with control and flipping issues as well as speed

  • @Random-s2i-n7t
    @Random-s2i-n7t Місяць тому

    you should add a second propeller that is spinning in the opposite direction so that it will be more powerful and wont flip over

  • @woodzyfox4735
    @woodzyfox4735 8 місяців тому

    Smooth the propeller, Add some sand for weight, ajust the pitch of the motor up a tad. If your eager enough, Make the frount of the boat more if a tringale shape

  • @Timmy-f6p
    @Timmy-f6p Рік тому

    Make it have control surfaces so it will help you turn better

  • @TheLostGamerMan
    @TheLostGamerMan Рік тому

    The boat's look reminds me of a Higgins boat landing craft

  • @panzer_tank
    @panzer_tank Рік тому +1

    y'know the small weight thingy at the bottom of yachts? yeah, use that to balance the boat

  • @AnkitKumar-cd8fe
    @AnkitKumar-cd8fe Рік тому

    Thrust is a force (as much as i have studied physics) so it should not be stated in grams. 2800g=2.8kg now, F=mg
    Thus, F≈2.8×10N=28N

    • @stereoroid
      @stereoroid 9 місяців тому

      That’s not the only problem. The thrust-measuring rig doesn’t give the thrust at the prop, it reads approx 3x the actual thrust. Principle of Moments and all that.

  • @TitanicNerd1912.
    @TitanicNerd1912. 11 місяців тому

    You should put jack and rose at the front when rose goes, "jack im flying."

  • @mcgreen2040
    @mcgreen2040 8 місяців тому

    The force is actually 1/2 what the scale is reading, because the boat has torque

  • @CorruptMem
    @CorruptMem Рік тому

    The roughness of the 3d print is also a big factor here I'm certain

  • @Dee5000playz
    @Dee5000playz 2 місяці тому

    Make it use a tiny 2 cylinder 2 stroke boxer engine for power. And maybe water jets?

  • @Appalive
    @Appalive Рік тому

    Now we need the smallest propeller

  • @IrishRabbitGaming
    @IrishRabbitGaming Рік тому

    Use buoyant materials on the bottom and maybe on the sides to make it harder to flip

  • @jacobjenkins5805
    @jacobjenkins5805 11 місяців тому

    Maybe look and sanding and smoothing propellers for better air vortex so it pushes more straight

  • @CocgamingWithunc
    @CocgamingWithunc Рік тому +1

    Make it have stabilizers like in ships to make it ease out in waves

  • @wcemichael
    @wcemichael 8 місяців тому

    There is a motor power to prop size ratio. P4 was bigger but the motor didn't have the power to turn P4 at the same RRM as R3 to push the water. NOW THEN... P4 MIGHT go faster as momentum is generated. This is not examined in your test.

  • @ChrisRand-gf7lz
    @ChrisRand-gf7lz 8 місяців тому

    You should swap out the 3-blade prop for a 4-blade prop. 4-Blades are more efficient and make better use of the available horsepower.

  • @paulkei6780
    @paulkei6780 Рік тому

    This is the most insightful comment section I've ever seen

  • @HannoVanNiekerk-jc1gd
    @HannoVanNiekerk-jc1gd Рік тому +1

    If jou put the propeller horizontal with the water surface jou will have more control

  • @ΓιώργοςΠαναγιώτηςΓιαμακίδης

    Try more propeller wings or some hydrodynamic improvement in the front of the boat

  • @am6412
    @am6412 Рік тому

    Maybe it flipped cuz of the shape, it’ll probably go faster and be easier to control if it’s more streamline and aerodynamic

  • @Vahlsten
    @Vahlsten Рік тому +1

    You could try making it a hydrofoil boat...

  • @graphitegamez605
    @graphitegamez605 Рік тому

    Try adding a frictional less layer at the bottom of the rv boat and if possible add a small hydrofoil

  • @rparker069
    @rparker069 Рік тому

    Give it some ribs on the bottom, they help keep it straight until you want it to turn

  • @veitforabetterworld
    @veitforabetterworld Рік тому

    Thrust is usually measured in Newtons

  • @ConnorHenry5
    @ConnorHenry5 11 місяців тому

    You should do two propellers. It will make it stable.

  • @lindseybrogdon4862
    @lindseybrogdon4862 Рік тому

    Awesome armor and some more sodas and some fishing gear

  • @supermanbanty3210
    @supermanbanty3210 7 місяців тому

    You can smoothen the propellers for better efficiency

  • @killitgameing658
    @killitgameing658 Місяць тому

    the biggest Improvement you can make to those impellers is improving the geometry and the print quality cuz currently those things are going to have more drag than a gay bar in Vegas so either send them down and put a filler primer on it and do all that stuff or buy a resin 3D printer or use a service to have them printed in resin

  • @berd2vr
    @berd2vr Рік тому +1

    you should use s co2 canister as a nitro

  • @wildwolf3304
    @wildwolf3304 Рік тому

    You gotta add more blades to the propeller so you can generate more thrust at lower RPMs

  • @lolsomeyoutuber.1425
    @lolsomeyoutuber.1425 Рік тому

    use a 4 bladed propeller, it has less cavitation and should be more efficient

  • @l_am_Cloud
    @l_am_Cloud 8 місяців тому

    Sand down the propellers so there isn’t as much friction with the water as they’re spinning. This should free up some torque

  • @nedrecks6305
    @nedrecks6305 9 місяців тому

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  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw 11 місяців тому

    Motors have a power curve. Propellers need to be matched to that curve.

  • @woxi4899
    @woxi4899 Рік тому

    give it a piston engine, using hydrazine as fuel, and an even bigger propeller and increase the hull size to support the added weight, also more length to make it more stabile. trust me, its going to go like a rocket on water :)

  • @AndersenGronlund
    @AndersenGronlund 2 місяці тому

    You should ad a fin at the bottom that stabilizes the boat

  • @doubledecker1113
    @doubledecker1113 Рік тому

    could add a top and weights to stabilize the boat and prevent water from getting in

  • @ryan1e
    @ryan1e 11 місяців тому

    a v style hull and some more length would go a long way to making the boat more controllable