Sim is a relatively painless way. Always join near-empty lobbies, go for AI targets while researching the first bomb/rocket mod you can, then use said bombs/rockets to zomb till you have the ARB bare essentials. From there on out you can either start playing ARB and cope with little to no performance mods for a while or continue playing Sim till you get everything you want. Base bombing is FAR more viable in Sim since you have the means to hardly ever run into enemies.
The fastest way to get through the stock grind is to purchase 5000 GE and use it to unlock all of the modifications. 🔥(Gaijin Marketing Dept. Approved Statement)
Currently, I believe the Russian top tiers have a slight edge in stocks grinding. You get 2 R-73s stock on the Mig 29SMT and Su 27, unlike the 2 9L you get on the F16C and F15A. It's really nice to have a missile that you can alteast tell people to hold without them decoying it with 1 flare at the beginning of your stock grind lol
We’re not using the same 9L if theyre getting decoyed with 1 flare, I recommend just not shooting at stupid ranges like try within a km or maybe 1.5 it’s definitely a lot more reliable than just shooting them off and hoping they dont get flared
@Sundownnnn I'll give the 9L credit where credit is due... it's still potent from behind... with AB on and flaring, but the R-73 opens up a wider range if angles to shoot from Making getting kills for stock grinding easier than the 9L. People are still kinda clueless nowadays so they still at times catch the thing front aspect
Actually the mig29 9-12 and 9-13 have stock r60m or mks. For some reason though, the normal r60 is still a modification that allows you to take 6 missles. You cant have full r60ms until researching the r60m modification which is somewhere below it.
High tier stock grinding has gotten σοbad that I personally just don't bother anymore and just play whatever's fun and doesn't make me want to propel my mouse towards my wall at mach 10
1:41 you can also enable radar altitude in settings to have the altitude relative to the ground and set the critical altitude to the minimum multipath altitude so the indicator turns red when you're below it
One way I've found success is using the plane in ground RB. The enemy planes usually have their eyes glued to the ground through their targeting pod and many ignore their RWR either out of outright incompetence or because being locked by SPAA is kind of a given. The enemy planes are often in lower Br, heavily laiden with bombs, or controlled by wallet warriors who may not even carry missiles. The obvious downside is that you need ground vehicle of equal BR and A2A rewards arent great so you might want bombs and rockets for ground attack which overall makes you more vulnerable.
my best tip: do assault arcade to get 300%-500% boosters and do a simulator battle match, was able to research half of the modules within 1 match, I recommend getting bombs/rocket modules before doing this as base bombing is quite viable top it off with premium time and you'll make more rp
Good topic to cover cuz surprisingly not many people say anything beyond "it just sucks". Like yea it does but what's a better way to go about it? For absolute worse case scenario, ground pound a bit or shoot down some bots if you're not confident in being able to get anything else. For most stock missiles you're really hoping your opponent is distracted, hence also arriving later to the battle.
Something ive found out, if you log in and play every day just to do the easy daily for the battle pass, if you don't get the mid tier free vehicle you will be very close.
2 DAYS 2 FUCKING DAYS LATE I LITERALLY JUST GOT MY F15S 9MS DAMNIT SEEK still thanks for the tips i'll be able to suffer less when spading the viper when i eventually get it
My typical method is just to get the first tier bombs and take out a couple bases until I get missiles Premium also helps A LOT with grinding modifications
I remember watching a video by HowToPlay1337 a long time ago, where they explained that arcade is better for modifications and realistic is better for vehicle RP. Tried that with the F16AJ / F15J and it made it way easier 👍
Su27 was incapable of carrying R60M, thus is not an option stock. F-15/16 was capable of carrying 9J and 9L. Luckily, gaijin went with the 9L for the stock missile lol
Get some bombs as soon as possible. Go Sim, fly low and fast to the targets, drop your bombs go back an restock. Yeah, and use your boosters. Worked like a charm on F-4J and F-14A...
I actually have a much better time spading F-4C than F-14A (spaded them when top tier is 12.3), because I can just bomb base and get RP reliably lmao. (You can outpace pretty much every plane 10.3 or below with 114 FFAR and full missile load even with a stock engine. Remember to bring IR missile everytime, it will save you by counterlaunching a 9B/E at a incoming R-60M or even occasionally getting some kills after bombing base.) I still don't get why killing two player planes sometimes earns less RP than bombing a single base (common on smaller maps when the match does not last long), it is just asking people to go base bombing in a fighter in air to air battle mode.
@@kurnass2000 Yeah being a bomber and got shot down like a idiot. Very fun. I still get positive KD in F-4C somehow and I don't know why people are so mad about others playing a flareless 10.0 plane as a fighter bomber when they are trying to spade it. (Half of my team cannot even get a kill so is that my problem because I did not clean the lobby by killing 4 guys using AIM-7Ds at the start?) 10.0 is ruined by those all aspect and if you are saying simply not take it out whatsoever then fine. (Though I would suggest not fly out a bomber in the same regard) F-4C is my second-last non spaded US plane so be it.
@@kurnass2000 Also I'm complaining about the RP reward. If it is more rewarding when getting kills, why would I take a damn heavy FFAR out when I can get RP more efficiently? The issue is just it is so damn rewarding bombing base and the stock grind sucks so people go for base (Spade F-4C is mediocre so stock is trash). Yeah you might think this behaviour will cost others the game but F-4C sucks by every metric, doesn't matter. (I have only taken bombs on 7 non-bomber planes to ARB: Wyvern (For speed grinding event), F-4C (flareless 10.0), AD-2, F-84F (trash), A-4E early (my first jet so I'm bad), F-111A (I just decide to go bombing, no excuse) and F-105D (flareless 10.0), so think what you like)
Still cant believe gaijin wanted to remove the R73 from the Mig29A and give it outright R60s.... I wish they would add it for it and move it up to 12.3 or so since the missile came with the craft.... BTW for all you wondering the R73 is a full on 10 years younger than the AIM 9M missile, just as a cool little fact ;)
the one best progression tip i have that not many people know about is the item shop. the only thing i buy from it is a 15% rp booster for 10 matches, this makes a noticeable impact on progression and the booster only costs 99ge so its about a dollar for 10 games with increased rp. this on top of using premium account and sometimes even a premium vehicle greatly increases progression
Honestly, top tier stock grind doesnt exist, log in bonus/warbond a 150% booster and after one game you got 6+ missiles from first research, second game you get boosters, and tadaaaaa! ur essentially at 99% potential, the rest is just "nice to haves".
@@nick.t591 that takes some serious effort tbh, it's extremely rare, even then, you can just shoot a couple of ground targets to make up for it, 17~of them equates to a player kill.
For me as a noobie and having gotten the T-2, it's a really difficult plane for me to understand. This is essentially my first experience with a "top tier" jet, and so far I've really only been missiled because the T-2 has no countermeasures (aside from the Zunis in which I don't know how I could use as makeshift countermeasures.) For me it really feels like the T-2 is more or less an overtiered plane that is essentially a free kill to anyone that eyeballs it, and it doesn't help that I'm essentially a literal newbie with barely 300 hours on the game.
This airplane stocking is dumb. No idea how air battle works dont interested in it just want to get plane to tank rb. Joined 2 game both was uptier and just insta died without anyone i could see.
Back in my day, we didn't even have missiles 🗿
Nor flares😢😳
Back in my day
We were just mitotic dividing cells in a sea of water molecules and other microorganisms
Back in my day the sabre just came out and i finally got top tier when the f16 dropped (my suffering is immeasurable)
Man what we doin here General
No missle, no flares, no repair kit,no fire extinguish.
Only agony
Sim is a relatively painless way. Always join near-empty lobbies, go for AI targets while researching the first bomb/rocket mod you can, then use said bombs/rockets to zomb till you have the ARB bare essentials. From there on out you can either start playing ARB and cope with little to no performance mods for a while or continue playing Sim till you get everything you want. Base bombing is FAR more viable in Sim since you have the means to hardly ever run into enemies.
The hard part is taking off
The fastest way to get through the stock grind is to purchase 5000 GE and use it to unlock all of the modifications. 🔥(Gaijin Marketing Dept. Approved Statement)
Currently, I believe the Russian top tiers have a slight edge in stocks grinding. You get 2 R-73s stock on the Mig 29SMT and Su 27, unlike the 2 9L you get on the F16C and F15A. It's really nice to have a missile that you can alteast tell people to hold without them decoying it with 1 flare at the beginning of your stock grind lol
We’re not using the same 9L if theyre getting decoyed with 1 flare, I recommend just not shooting at stupid ranges like try within a km or maybe 1.5 it’s definitely a lot more reliable than just shooting them off and hoping they dont get flared
the 9L is fairly flare resistant, I didn't even have that much of an issue with the 9P with the netz at 12.3 lmao, wasn't good but it was useable
@Sundownnnn I'll give the 9L credit where credit is due... it's still potent from behind... with AB on and flaring, but the R-73 opens up a wider range if angles to shoot from Making getting kills for stock grinding easier than the 9L. People are still kinda clueless nowadays so they still at times catch the thing front aspect
Though smt and su-27 fms are buses compared to f-16 and f-15. And when you only have 2 missiles flight performance is more important than ever
@-..----.--.-... won't deny that, also, having good guns goes hand-in-hand with good flight performance
That f14 maneuver tho 👀
Hit the brakes and he’ll fly right past
Classic F-14 moment
Actually the mig29 9-12 and 9-13 have stock r60m or mks. For some reason though, the normal r60 is still a modification that allows you to take 6 missles. You cant have full r60ms until researching the r60m modification which is somewhere below it.
The best / easiest way to unlock all the mods for any top tier jet is by bombing bases. You can easily get AT LEAST 5.000 RP per match this way.
I hate you
Ew bombing
If enemy team lets you bomb
I haven’t seen anyone give bombers mercy
High tier stock grinding has gotten σοbad that I personally just don't bother anymore and just play whatever's fun and doesn't make me want to propel my mouse towards my wall at mach 10
and the most important part is to have painkiller, antidepressan and alcohol ready on your desk
Step 1: spend approximately 22 USD to boost the missiles making the grind significantly easier
1:41 you can also enable radar altitude in settings to have the altitude relative to the ground and set the critical altitude to the minimum multipath altitude so the indicator turns red when you're below it
This didn’t exist back then
@@SeekerHead oh okay
1:40 I would like to point out a setting under 'air battles' that allows you to change to radar altitude, which might help with staying "below radar".
One way I've found success is using the plane in ground RB. The enemy planes usually have their eyes glued to the ground through their targeting pod and many ignore their RWR either out of outright incompetence or because being locked by SPAA is kind of a given. The enemy planes are often in lower Br, heavily laiden with bombs, or controlled by wallet warriors who may not even carry missiles. The obvious downside is that you need ground vehicle of equal BR and A2A rewards arent great so you might want bombs and rockets for ground attack which overall makes you more vulnerable.
i got my first top tier jet literally yesterday, great timing!
Props to seek for uninstalling half of his spaded jets just for this video (He gets a lot of them already spaded on patch)
All of them 💪🏻 (I haven’t stock grinded a top tier since 2021)
my best tip: do assault arcade to get 300%-500% boosters and do a simulator battle match, was able to research half of the modules within 1 match, I recommend getting bombs/rocket modules before doing this as base bombing is quite viable top it off with premium time and you'll make more rp
feeling old remembering RWR was a modification
Solid advice, thanks.
The curse advice that actually works is to go for the ai plane every game until you unlock good missiles. Usually takes around 20 games.
Good topic to cover cuz surprisingly not many people say anything beyond "it just sucks". Like yea it does but what's a better way to go about it?
For absolute worse case scenario, ground pound a bit or shoot down some bots if you're not confident in being able to get anything else. For most stock missiles you're really hoping your opponent is distracted, hence also arriving later to the battle.
Something ive found out, if you log in and play every day just to do the easy daily for the battle pass, if you don't get the mid tier free vehicle you will be very close.
2:12 huh why did he randomly say javascript
2 DAYS
2 FUCKING DAYS LATE
I LITERALLY JUST GOT MY F15S 9MS
DAMNIT SEEK
still thanks for the tips i'll be able to suffer less when spading the viper when i eventually get it
My typical method is just to get the first tier bombs and take out a couple bases until I get missiles
Premium also helps A LOT with grinding modifications
I remember watching a video by HowToPlay1337 a long time ago, where they explained that arcade is better for modifications and realistic is better for vehicle RP. Tried that with the F16AJ / F15J and it made it way easier 👍
step 1 is to ask why russian stuff gets r73 stock and researched at tier 1 while nato has to slog to the 3rd or final tier
Su27 was incapable of carrying R60M, thus is not an option stock. F-15/16 was capable of carrying 9J and 9L. Luckily, gaijin went with the 9L for the stock missile lol
Mig29 has 2xr60M stock. Then you research regular r60
Oh good
Imagine this is all a free ge sponsorship
Get some bombs as soon as possible. Go Sim, fly low and fast to the targets, drop your bombs go back an restock. Yeah, and use your boosters.
Worked like a charm on F-4J and F-14A...
what recording software do you use?😅
I can say being 40 feet above ground will still get you a missile to the dome because multipathing is broken.
I actually have a much better time spading F-4C than F-14A (spaded them when top tier is 12.3), because I can just bomb base and get RP reliably lmao. (You can outpace pretty much every plane 10.3 or below with 114 FFAR and full missile load even with a stock engine. Remember to bring IR missile everytime, it will save you by counterlaunching a 9B/E at a incoming R-60M or even occasionally getting some kills after bombing base.)
I still don't get why killing two player planes sometimes earns less RP than bombing a single base (common on smaller maps when the match does not last long), it is just asking people to go base bombing in a fighter in air to air battle mode.
Imagine bombing in the f4c, it you want to bomb play a bomber not hard
@@kurnass2000 Yeah being a bomber and got shot down like a idiot. Very fun.
I still get positive KD in F-4C somehow and I don't know why people are so mad about others playing a flareless 10.0 plane as a fighter bomber when they are trying to spade it. (Half of my team cannot even get a kill so is that my problem because I did not clean the lobby by killing 4 guys using AIM-7Ds at the start?)
10.0 is ruined by those all aspect and if you are saying simply not take it out whatsoever then fine. (Though I would suggest not fly out a bomber in the same regard)
F-4C is my second-last non spaded US plane so be it.
@@kurnass2000 Also I'm complaining about the RP reward. If it is more rewarding when getting kills, why would I take a damn heavy FFAR out when I can get RP more efficiently?
The issue is just it is so damn rewarding bombing base and the stock grind sucks so people go for base (Spade F-4C is mediocre so stock is trash). Yeah you might think this behaviour will cost others the game but F-4C sucks by every metric, doesn't matter.
(I have only taken bombs on 7 non-bomber planes to ARB: Wyvern (For speed grinding event), F-4C (flareless 10.0), AD-2, F-84F (trash), A-4E early (my first jet so I'm bad), F-111A (I just decide to go bombing, no excuse) and F-105D (flareless 10.0), so think what you like)
Great stuff
2:20 Aura
2:40 tho 🤔
Using premium time, a very mediocre player like me was able to completely research, purchase, and crew, the F16A after about 10 hours
Should I buy Mig-23ML now?
@SeekerHead, how do you zoom your screen by small amounts instead of fully zooming?
Mouse scroll wheel axis set to zoom
@SeekerHead oh ok, interesting. I don't think I've seen anyone else do that
Still cant believe gaijin wanted to remove the R73 from the Mig29A and give it outright R60s.... I wish they would add it for it and move it up to 12.3 or so since the missile came with the craft.... BTW for all you wondering the R73 is a full on 10 years younger than the AIM 9M missile, just as a cool little fact ;)
How much will the May sales last? I want to get 1 year premium account and maybe the MiG-21 Lazur M on Summer Sales.
For some reason the link doesn’t work for the decal
the one best progression tip i have that not many people know about is the item shop. the only thing i buy from it is a 15% rp booster for 10 matches, this makes a noticeable impact on progression and the booster only costs 99ge so its about a dollar for 10 games with increased rp. this on top of using premium account and sometimes even a premium vehicle greatly increases progression
lol the F4C I skipped it and spaded the F4E instead
Seek is just a 10/10 creator
He’s true. My last 4 videos have been performing 10 out of the last 10 videos 😭
1:30 Turn on Radar Altitude in settings. Problem solved.
That didn’t exist back then brother 👍
You forgot the snow
This video is now Ironic
Does bro not play russia? Russia gets the 2 most op ir missiles out of the gate for its 12.7 aircraft
The vast majority of top tier planes do not get their best missile stock, not worth mentioning for the vid really
Bombing + talisman is my way to go. Lame as hell but you grind the plane fast. Talsimans are also often on sale for 50%
im noob at the game, can some one explain to me what stock grind is
Honestly, top tier stock grind doesnt exist, log in bonus/warbond a 150% booster and after one game you got 6+ missiles from first research, second game you get boosters, and tadaaaaa! ur essentially at 99% potential, the rest is just "nice to haves".
Doesn’t work when u can’t manage a single kill so you only get 100 rp a game
@@nick.t591 that takes some serious effort tbh, it's extremely rare, even then, you can just shoot a couple of ground targets to make up for it, 17~of them equates to a player kill.
For me as a noobie and having gotten the T-2, it's a really difficult plane for me to understand.
This is essentially my first experience with a "top tier" jet, and so far I've really only been missiled because the T-2 has no countermeasures (aside from the Zunis in which I don't know how I could use as makeshift countermeasures.)
For me it really feels like the T-2 is more or less an overtiered plane that is essentially a free kill to anyone that eyeballs it, and it doesn't help that I'm essentially a literal newbie with barely 300 hours on the game.
@@kolldee If you see a missile, fire a few zunis and turn of the afterburner, that's it, just like normal flares
Chill at the back... Go in late game when people have no missile or fuel left... gun play and outplay the other guys
6:28 am i the only one to think F-15 guns are really hard to aim?
It can be tricky because of the placement yeah
This airplane stocking is dumb. No idea how air battle works dont interested in it just want to get plane to tank rb. Joined 2 game both was uptier and just insta died without anyone i could see.
mig29g 12.7 stock is so painfull
I polished my F-16 at a time when there were no countermeasures at all. It was wild experience.
wdym? countermeasures were introduced way before f-16
@@141menaceback in the day you had to unlock flares in stock grind
@@141menace But you didn't have them in stock. You had to get your countermeasures first and at 12.0 you flew without them after opening the F-16.
@@141menace Now, immediately after the discovery, standard countermeasures are available to you, but in the past you could only dream of this.
@@141menace Just think about what it was like to fly a 12.0 without countermeasures.