Not gonna lie, it will be really fun have a fight with all persona protagonis in the original game (Without the mod). Because the fact of seeing the Characters you play become that strong is nice, also a testament of how far they come after their stories.
heeyyyyy so, a friend of mine brought to my attention that Satanael is not supposed to have Morning Star since it's an exclusive move to lucifer, and to that I say my bad. TLDR; I got an edited save so I wouldn't have to worry about grinding all the way till the 3rd semester, I'm not sure why it had satanael like that (whoever posted it might've used a save data editor), but regardless, I still had to build/adjust every other persona to get it right for this boss fight. Even without morning star, megidolaoan can still do insane damage with the amps and buffs on top of technical damage, the only difference is the fight would take an extra half an hour, I still wouldn't die at the pace I go at now. That said, the solo run is gonna be in the works soon, thanks a lot for the support on this video!
Wherever persona goes in the future, I really hope we get the opportunity for an actual 4v4 scenario, because this looks really fun, as hellish as it is.
With dlc it definitely is a cakewalk, but without it I think it's a challenge, no dlc equips means your teammates can have their weaknesses hit and giving these guys a one more is a recipe for disaster and you can't just spam sleep and have it work 90% of the time
We got a Wild Card boss fight before the full S.E.E.S. or Investigation Team sad but still cool now when's Naoya (Persona 1), Tatsuya (Persona 2 Innocent Sin), and Maya (Persona 2 Eternal Punishment)
@PhenomenalSire yes it would as otherwise it would be the worst. The gimmicks that would suck would be Elizabeth's and Theodore's gimmick as that is a major limit that impacts who and what you can bring with you. P4 wise, I have yet to see what Margaret's gimmick was, but p5 with Lavenza's gimmick can technically be implemented but would be for s good challenge when done right the only gimmick from that fight that would be bad to deal with here is the ailment part which when I beat her required a Thor with every ailment and ailment boost to hit her as otherwise it's an annoying dice roll which might cause you to start over
I mean they have 4 MCs to use and all the elements in the game they could have the boy with a earing(persona 1mc) Maya or Tatsua for p2 and then Yu and Minato it would be cooler for the mod and make more sense then Joker and Agis
I wonder how much more fair this would be if enemies had access to only the same tools as the player- their available Personas and moves (including DLC), 8 slots for passives and attacks per Persona, limited SP, etcetera.
Honestly, I thought of the potential of Aigis being a DLC boss for P5R, But never have I thought she can be a boss alongside Makoto, Yu and Ren altogether. Which is honestly a great idea.
Could just have a metatron with heatriser and nulls and drains everything practically and setup the most broken personas in the series. No DLC is needed to do that. Persona bosses can't be hard if you use all the tools given to you. One buffer with immunities and nulls and drains, one sweeper with mostly nulls and drains and broken attack skills to boost damage and a trait to boost it further and then one persona to keep you from dying once and to heal and basically null and drain most elements with some of the null and drain coming from the persona naturally. A challenge run of this where you can't abuse the most broken stuff could be interesting though.
I must mention that instead of trying to null every element Dodgetanking seems like a better option. The same for the party. Using All Target omni buffs/debuffs and evade skills seems more practical. Another thing is that Unshakable Will from Ashura would straight up block the ailments they are throwing at you so the chance of dying to tech is 0. I'm also not joking when I say I have seen harder superbosses in other Megaten games. Thanks funny Tattoo boy.
Can your enemies do Baton Passes? It would be cool to see a match with that. If it becomes too difficult, maybe a compromise to make the fight easier in other ways; e.g., add a mod to allow the fight to continue even if Joker dies.
Persona super bosses can be such bullshit sometimes with all the rules you have to follow, I have more fun fighting the SMT superbosses. I'd take Satan from DDS2 over Elizabeth any day
Oh yeah the eye ball attack is a move that even the protagonist can do, its called psycho blast. The cut in animation is in the same style as persona 4s just in higher quality so it's a nice nod
Holy crap I think you're right, that is mainly because technical damage is multiplied by 3, not 1.5 like it is on hard, which applies to you and enemies, and you also get more money and exp on merciless too, great question I will definitely look into it more and probably do that instead for my solo run.
@PhenomenalSire i feel like it depends. For this battle, its so long that the opposing Wild Cards having those same boosts makes it harder because it makes it so, so much more likely for an instadeath nuke to hit Joker.
@@furiouscorgi6614 You'll be surprised by the solo run coming soon, I thought the same thing but even with the lower difficulty they still hit like a truck
@@PhenomenalSire fair enough. I wonder if, like, running 3 attempts at each and taking time of loss/success and how long (solo and team, Hard and Merciless), which difficulty would be generally hardest according to the scientific method- Merciless is more voiatle, but Hard is much longer- so it's basically, is it more threatening for a fight to last longer, or for punishes to be more threatening
why are sumire and akechi only at tier 2 personas? masquerade (2 hits, high crit) and rebellion blade (almighty damage, bonus to downed foes) seem like theyd help ALOT here
It was a save I used from somewhere else, they somehow had morning star on satanael but not the third awakenings of some party members, that was on me though for being lazy. Regardless, they are definitely the most useful part members
Elizabeth in Persona 3 reload is a b**** to fight there's rules to her fight and if you break them you die instantly by getting hit by a 99,999 attack if you survived that she just immediately does it again until you die you think bosses in the main story would be the most difficult but no this is a side thing
Yea, I tried it last night before beating the game and you actually need Orpheus Telos to beat it lmao. Unfortunately for me, I didn't finish Bebe, the art guy, and the sick guy
Just a heads up, I saw you had a shitton of damage passives on Satanael. This is fine except the fact that his trait, "Pagan Allure" does not exceed the 100% damage cap for passives, so it was ultimately useless here. EDIT: I noticed that Morning Star is on Satanael which shouldn't be possible unless the save is modded so it's likely his trait was modified to do the extra 50% damage here but if that's also the case then you might as well just be using a DLC persona lol
Nah the difference between the edited satanael and izanagi no okami is still too big to call that one a dlc persona, I still think it was a fair challenge even with the edited satanael but for the solo run I won't use it anyway
You need two personas. Wage var persona with rage and aliment boost passives and evil izanagi specced into technical damage. So first turn wage var then panther charges everyone next use fire magatama third times and pass to panther to use blazzing hell it proc everyone enduring soul. Next turn use magtsu while they are still enraged dealing technical damage and killing them.
@@PhenomenalSireYes, in the manga, in P3P's rerelease if you change the language to a different one, like Japanese to English, then the game defaults to the name that's used in the P3 Movies, which is Makoto Yuki, also I'm not actually that angry about it I'm just upscaling it for the funny
@@PhenomenalSire Pagan Allure is Satanael's default trait, and it sucks It stops Boost and Amp from stacking past 200% Most people use Mighty Gaze or Will of the Sword for better damage Except for me, I use Lucifer's SP reduction trait to keep blasting
@joshuabergman3292 good thinking, I didn't even know there was a limit to it, that'll go a long way for the solo boss fight if I fuse satanael again with a different trait. I appreciate the info!
Sure! The intro is Cinematic Tale from Persona Q2, The main boss theme is Heartful Cry from Persona 3 dancing, and the ending theme is New Days from Persona 4!
![JOKER IS THE *HARDEST* BOSS IN PERSONA HISTORY! [HEARTLESS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-wyEB8aKcg4/mqdefault.jpg)
![JOKER IS THE *HARDEST* BOSS IN PERSONA HISTORY! [HEARTLESS]](/img/tr.png)
Yo! I just uploaded the solo run of this boss fight! It's MUCH harder than this one! Check it out here: ua-cam.com/video/GZBpccGxVV8/v-deo.html
mod basically shows why we will never get a persona pvp using the turn based system the mainline games use
Sonic robo blast 2 persona
Sonic robo blast 2 persona
@@SAINTAX_ERRORSonic robo blast persona 2
Sonic robo blast persona 2
Sonic robo blast persona 3
Not gonna lie, it will be really fun have a fight with all persona protagonis in the original game (Without the mod). Because the fact of seeing the Characters you play become that strong is nice, also a testament of how far they come after their stories.
So this is like a PVP kind of boss. Like they act like Players and will do scummy things to get an advantage over their enemies.
That is easily the best description I've heard of this boss, they are really that annoying
thats how persona works as a whole. all fights on both sides are the difference between life and death
I think Morning Star on Satanael is fine since enemy Joker gets to use illegal moves as well
6:50 I just saw Obama for a quick millisecond XD
3:34 💀
heeyyyyy so, a friend of mine brought to my attention that Satanael is not supposed to have Morning Star since it's an exclusive move to lucifer, and to that I say my bad.
TLDR; I got an edited save so I wouldn't have to worry about grinding all the way till the 3rd semester, I'm not sure why it had satanael like that (whoever posted it might've used a save data editor), but regardless, I still had to build/adjust every other persona to get it right for this boss fight. Even without morning star, megidolaoan can still do insane damage with the amps and buffs on top of technical damage, the only difference is the fight would take an extra half an hour, I still wouldn't die at the pace I go at now.
That said, the solo run is gonna be in the works soon, thanks a lot for the support on this video!
I was going to ask how you got morning star on Satanael, as I couldn’t find any documentation on that anywhere. That makes sense though
Honestly they should have given Satanael Morning Star instead of Black Viper
You're dealing less damage than you would have if you used a legit build anyway so you're good
Wherever persona goes in the future, I really hope we get the opportunity for an actual 4v4 scenario, because this looks really fun, as hellish as it is.
Finally a good mod for P5R ( 3:02 )
So basically what I am seeing here is if You Miss play one move, you are dead as hell
If futaba doesn't save you with final guard there's a good chance you'll die
This fight was literally a cake walk with teammates since technical damage is broken.
Trying to do this solo is a completely different experience.
With dlc it definitely is a cakewalk, but without it I think it's a challenge, no dlc equips means your teammates can have their weaknesses hit and giving these guys a one more is a recipe for disaster and you can't just spam sleep and have it work 90% of the time
We got a Wild Card boss fight before the full S.E.E.S. or Investigation Team
sad but still cool
now when's Naoya (Persona 1), Tatsuya (Persona 2 Innocent Sin), and Maya (Persona 2 Eternal Punishment)
Not wild cards, sorry 😔
Seeing this older version of Odin feels really weird given the absolute glow up he got in SMTV
Feel like what Strega should have been, an actual threat with multiple party members
The reaction to Enduring Soul was pretty funny, thanks
Gotta love Baralilat Obama!
Honesty imagine if someone makes a mod where you fight all the velvelt room attendants at once
If there were no rules or guaranteed one shot kills it would definitely be the most satisfying challenge to beat
@PhenomenalSire yes it would as otherwise it would be the worst. The gimmicks that would suck would be Elizabeth's and Theodore's gimmick as that is a major limit that impacts who and what you can bring with you. P4 wise, I have yet to see what Margaret's gimmick was, but p5 with Lavenza's gimmick can technically be implemented but would be for s good challenge when done right the only gimmick from that fight that would be bad to deal with here is the ailment part which when I beat her required a Thor with every ailment and ailment boost to hit her as otherwise it's an annoying dice roll which might cause you to start over
It would be like a certain persona Q2 battle
@alexandermatamalamoreno235 perfect I almost forgot about that one
GOATNOMENAL SIRE 5 VIDEO LETS GO ‼️‼️‼️
Obama jumpscare at 3:25
I mean they have 4 MCs to use and all the elements in the game they could have the boy with a earing(persona 1mc) Maya or Tatsua for p2 and then Yu and Minato it would be cooler for the mod and make more sense then Joker and Agis
I wonder how much more fair this would be if enemies had access to only the same tools as the player- their available Personas and moves (including DLC), 8 slots for passives and attacks per Persona, limited SP, etcetera.
A pvp persona game would go so hard
Glad Aigis is included.
Someone looked at Gen 5 Elite Four and thought this but in P5
Now fight all the velvet attendants at the same time💀
Oh god that would actually be impossible
Honestly, I thought of the potential of Aigis being a DLC boss for P5R,
But never have I thought she can be a boss alongside Makoto, Yu and Ren altogether. Which is honestly a great idea.
Ahh yes I remember using Obama he is the best persona
They put joker and agis but not femc
Could just have a metatron with heatriser and nulls and drains everything practically and setup the most broken personas in the series. No DLC is needed to do that. Persona bosses can't be hard if you use all the tools given to you. One buffer with immunities and nulls and drains, one sweeper with mostly nulls and drains and broken attack skills to boost damage and a trait to boost it further and then one persona to keep you from dying once and to heal and basically null and drain most elements with some of the null and drain coming from the persona naturally. A challenge run of this where you can't abuse the most broken stuff could be interesting though.
I must mention that instead of trying to null every element Dodgetanking seems like a better option.
The same for the party. Using All Target omni buffs/debuffs and evade skills seems more practical.
Another thing is that Unshakable Will from Ashura would straight up block the ailments they are throwing at you so the chance of dying to tech is 0.
I'm also not joking when I say I have seen harder superbosses in other Megaten games. Thanks funny Tattoo boy.
Can your enemies do Baton Passes? It would be cool to see a match with that. If it becomes too difficult, maybe a compromise to make the fight easier in other ways; e.g., add a mod to allow the fight to continue even if Joker dies.
Nah they can't, but it would've been really cool if they could
nice vid bro deserve more views
They should add femc and the first 2 protags
There was only a replacement for Minato for FEMC mod but I couldn't get it working
Persona super bosses can be such bullshit sometimes with all the rules you have to follow, I have more fun fighting the SMT superbosses. I'd take Satan from DDS2 over Elizabeth any day
Why does this guy do that fake yell thing? Scream your heart out if you get hit with a Neo Cadenza.
Damn bro cooked tf outta me. I totally would but the voiceover was done at 1 in the morning and I live with other people so...had to pass on that one
izanami no okami is cool and all until it's USED AGAINST YOU
why is obama there lmao
WHY AM I UNABLE TO ESCAPE PERSONA 3 SPOILERS
Um... I'm sorry? I don't think I spoiled anything though
I really want a mod to make a Demi Fiend boss fight
Was Aigis in P5R?
Edit: I don't know how original fights in P5R looks like, but spical effects of Yu are so nostalgic.
no, this is a mod, you can fight P3 MC and P4 MC in P5R but only one at a time not together, you can't fight Joker
They just ripped the Aigis model from P3D most likely
@@ult_joker By original fights, a ment fight with Yu and Makoto. I asked about eye ball attack and critical hit face.
Oh yeah the eye ball attack is a move that even the protagonist can do, its called psycho blast. The cut in animation is in the same style as persona 4s just in higher quality so it's a nice nod
Next boss will be all persona protagonists + their respective parties (all members)
Take things is phases.
@@littlebabyman8494 Wtf does that mean
@@RedHotChiliPepper31 Have the party members come in phases of four per group as per persona/SMT tradition.
@@littlebabyman8494 Ahh I get you. Nice idea!
Correct me if I’m wrong as I haven’t played P5R in a long while but isn’t Hard difficulty actually harder than Merciless?
Holy crap I think you're right, that is mainly because technical damage is multiplied by 3, not 1.5 like it is on hard, which applies to you and enemies, and you also get more money and exp on merciless too, great question I will definitely look into it more and probably do that instead for my solo run.
@PhenomenalSire i feel like it depends. For this battle, its so long that the opposing Wild Cards having those same boosts makes it harder because it makes it so, so much more likely for an instadeath nuke to hit Joker.
@@furiouscorgi6614 You'll be surprised by the solo run coming soon, I thought the same thing but even with the lower difficulty they still hit like a truck
@@PhenomenalSire fair enough. I wonder if, like, running 3 attempts at each and taking time of loss/success and how long (solo and team, Hard and Merciless), which difficulty would be generally hardest according to the scientific method- Merciless is more voiatle, but Hard is much longer- so it's basically, is it more threatening for a fight to last longer, or for punishes to be more threatening
why are sumire and akechi only at tier 2 personas? masquerade (2 hits, high crit) and rebellion blade (almighty damage, bonus to downed foes) seem like theyd help ALOT here
It was a save I used from somewhere else, they somehow had morning star on satanael but not the third awakenings of some party members, that was on me though for being lazy. Regardless, they are definitely the most useful part members
Damn even the modders "forgot" about femc :(
There's a mod to replace Minato here with femc!
Should of replaced joker or Aigis, yes Aigis was a wild card in one game but she really doesn't make sense for this mod...
@@spyro-JokerP5it’s not even the entire game but the post content. FeMC would have been a better pick
Elizabeth in Persona 3 reload is a b**** to fight there's rules to her fight and if you break them you die instantly by getting hit by a 99,999 attack if you survived that she just immediately does it again until you die you think bosses in the main story would be the most difficult but no this is a side thing
Yea, I tried it last night before beating the game and you actually need Orpheus Telos to beat it lmao. Unfortunately for me, I didn't finish Bebe, the art guy, and the sick guy
If u have Orpheus telos it’s a cake walk but otherwise u gotta use specific strats, some are on youtube
It’s too bad I’m not a boss
3:03 ayo lol
Just a heads up, I saw you had a shitton of damage passives on Satanael. This is fine except the fact that his trait, "Pagan Allure" does not exceed the 100% damage cap for passives, so it was ultimately useless here.
EDIT: I noticed that Morning Star is on Satanael which shouldn't be possible unless the save is modded so it's likely his trait was modified to do the extra 50% damage here but if that's also the case then you might as well just be using a DLC persona lol
Nah the difference between the edited satanael and izanagi no okami is still too big to call that one a dlc persona, I still think it was a fair challenge even with the edited satanael but for the solo run I won't use it anyway
Pov enlil(sorry minako(i think thats p3p femprotags name))
Hate to ask, but what music is used in this mod boss?
Shit slaps.
Faithful Cry - Pesona 3 Dancing
@@PhenomenalSire THANK
Wow so an equal fight
can we get a video with the full battle?
It'll be pretty long because they have enduring soul but sure! I'll upload that sometime this week!
0:48 but you used dlc costumes?? 😒
Does pagan allure have a damage cap, you’re better off with mighty gaze or will of the sword, even with tyrant mind
I wish instead of aigis it was Femc
Do it again but with DLC this time
Yo, can anyone tell me which songs did he used in this vid?
Would you believe I beat this in two turns?
Absolutely not lmao, how?
You need two personas. Wage var persona with rage and aliment boost passives and evil izanagi specced into technical damage. So first turn wage var then panther charges everyone next use fire magatama third times and pass to panther to use blazzing hell it proc everyone enduring soul. Next turn use magtsu while they are still enraged dealing technical damage and killing them.
No P3 FeMC? 🥺
How did you get morning star on satanael???
pretty good video but HIS NAME IS MAKOTO NOT MINATO
his name is minato in the manga though right?
@@PhenomenalSireYes, in the manga, in P3P's rerelease if you change the language to a different one, like Japanese to English, then the game defaults to the name that's used in the P3 Movies, which is Makoto Yuki, also I'm not actually that angry about it I'm just upscaling it for the funny
What is the song in the beginning of the video
Cinematic Tale from persona Q2
What music did you use during the fight?
Heartful Cry from Persona 3 Dancing
how did you get the red suit costume?
It's a mod, the link is in the description!
*sees bro using Pagan Allure* so, how long does it take before realizing?
Uh...it's been 3 months since I recorded this so...too long. Is the it a dlc trait?
@@PhenomenalSire Pagan Allure is Satanael's default trait, and it sucks
It stops Boost and Amp from stacking past 200%
Most people use Mighty Gaze or Will of the Sword for better damage
Except for me, I use Lucifer's SP reduction trait to keep blasting
@joshuabergman3292 good thinking, I didn't even know there was a limit to it, that'll go a long way for the solo boss fight if I fuse satanael again with a different trait. I appreciate the info!
Could you please share the background music you used in the video? I've been looking for this a long time
I think it’s Heartful Cry from The Answer sounded like the persona 3 dancing version but I’m not sure.
Sure!
The intro is Cinematic Tale from Persona Q2, The main boss theme is Heartful Cry from Persona 3 dancing, and the ending theme is New Days from Persona 4!
Thank you so much for reply ^^
Elizabeth harder
Sorry I just don’t like mod