Finding out if he is broke to ride.
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- This is part 2 of the first day working with this new Arabian. He is 7 years old and was gelded 3 days before making this video.
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Arabians need to be handled right , like Tim is doing. IF they are, they will be the best horse you ever owned. I have had 5, one at a time, and am still riding mine while I am 77 years young. Tim is one of the few that really understands how to handle them. Great job , tim !
I like him A LOT. He clearly remembers his earlier education, is alert to his new surroundings - but interested in them, not paniced by them - and perfectly willing to try to do what is asked of him. He's a _thinker_ , which many Arabs are.
Handsome horse beautiful mind
Yes…Arabs are thinkers. All I ever owned!
Sorry but Egyptian Arabians DON'T have the mind that this horse does nor the size or quality of bone .
I'll bet that this horse is Polish or Russian bred .
All Arabian horses are NOT created equally .
Just saying .
@@brooksequine7621 He is Polish breed. To be fair all horses aren’t created equal in all breeds.
@@brooksequine7621 No they are not…but that is the same for any horse breed. I have worked with Arabs all my life from many different lines and they all are extremely intelligent. It’s all about the training.
Nice to see such a beautiful Arabian. I hope the breed trends back to this conformity rather than the extremes of overly dished heads and such. Saber is a very desirable example of his breed IMO!
he's prob from racing or working lines and not show lines. He's built like mine which is from racing lines
You're so right! THIS confirmation is perfect!
Saber is one very fine horse! Following along with his training is really a great experience! His owner is one lucky person!!
Great work Tim sussing/figuring him out. I trained Arabs for 50 years. He’s very well bred, you can tell he’s been worked. The dingbats are usually just too closely bred. He’s a good nick. His owner is DOUBLE lucky. They’ve got you to work on him and they got him. It’s a shame he was gelded but you know it will be better for everyone including him. I had six stallions and they’ve GOT to be managed consistently all of their lives. A gelding is lots easier to use by most owners.
I've found the dingbats in every breed are usually too closely bred. My grandaddy always said when it works its line breeding, doesn't work it's inbred lol.
As far as stallions go, imo about 95% of people shouldn't own/handle them. As you know, there's a line between fair immediate correction and abuse and most don't get it with stallions.
Of course it's also my opinion that 80% of stallions need to be geldings.
I've ridden lots of stallions/colts and enjoyed most of them. I've handled them on ground, but I'm not the person that needs to do it daily.
With AI these days, there are better options for mare owners other than owning stallions. Unless you're breeding thoroughbreds that still require live cover only, most of time distance isn't a big factor.
Wow! I don’t think I blinked or breathed for both Sabre videos. He is remarkable and your confident handling of him is superb.
Considering the design of a saddle, saddling from the right makes more sense.
I was taught, what you do on the left, do on the right also.
I like that, flipping the stirrup it gets him used to sensation from the stirrup for a reason.
I’m already seeing Saber relax his head in a very short time.
Arabians are very intelligent; I think this horse will excel at whatever he’s asked to do. 😊
Relax his head???
That is one smooooth moving horse! Looks like the previous trainer did quite a bit of good work. He does need to get settled to the cows so he pays better attention to you. Beautiful Arabian!
Of all the Arabs that need to be gelded, he's not one of them. Very correct, great top line , beautiful tail carriage and lovely normal head. Seems reasonable to work with. Great he found you Tim!❤
These days, whenever we see a normal head on a Arab we have to be grateful for it, because thete is so much abusive inbreeding going on in the horse world. As others have said, Arabians are becoming Disney cartoons, and it just breaks my heart.
Whenever you breed any any animal for what you consider a desirable trait, you will also increase an undesirable trait. One that causes a malformation or a disease. The inbreeding of animals in America has got to stop!
I am in LOVE with that horse!
Unfortunately so many of them are ending up in sales barns because the breed is so misunderstood.
I have never been a big Arabian fan, mostly due to my lack of knowledge of the breed, but this guy is changing my mind. He is still trying to figure out what breed of horse those other animals are.😂 He is a really nice looking horse with a nice demeanor.
I think many people don’t realize that Arabians aren’t so much “spooky” as they are highly alert and aware of their surroundings. That can manifest as fear sometimes, but when they’re properly trained it makes them a dynamic and dedicated partner. It’s also why you often hear stories about how they will notice dangerous situations and avoid them. I had an Arabian hunter gelding and he was the most honest and athletic horse.
@@OhK746 same goes for Thoroughbreds and most "hot" blooded breeds.
Special horse. Love your slow methodical examination of him
Saber's owner is blessed. What a beauty....with a good mind!
to me, he's the prettiest horse I've seen you work...just lovely...seems to naturally stand square
Looks like this boy has a bright future ahead. Thank you Tim for your sensible and courageous approach.
What a lovely horse! The show Arabians I've known were trained to drive as well as show in hand and ridden, with an animated trot being the featured gait.
I was 10 when my dad bought our first horse - a 2 year-old Arab filly. I'm 73 and have had several more, and they are wonderful. I LOL when you said that there was no way you could tire them out; that's the truth. Not surprised at all at this one; alert, sensitive, good mind, responds very well to patient training - yep, that's an Arab.
He is simply magnificent.
The horse is ok, too 😉
ha ha , yep
What a good minded horse can see him thinking an gaining confidence.
He's going to be really nice horse with lots of talent. Really like this horse.
Saber seems almost perfect. That first time you put the saddle on, it looked like the strap knot went under the saddle instead of clearing. So he jumped a little. Other than that, it was hard to see anything wrong. That is so interesting to see him getting used to the cows. He has so much faith in your leadership even at this early stage.
I agree that the strap looked like it went under the saddle. I think that's why he jumped. But he recovered nicely from it.
You better install a seat belt on that rascal. He looks like he could climb Mt. Everest!
Great progress. Bet he'll be a very versatile worker. Yes, and maybe even become "cowy" 😁
I'm impressed, in more ways than one. I've seen only videos so far with you working quarter horses, and as person with mostly Morgans (working type) these days, I've thought "what can he do with a hot/reactive horse". Well dang it, you're great with them. Love your narrative and thought process. I bet you're helping a lot of us who already have worked with a lot of horses, and that's saying a lot.
Gorgeous Arab, btw. Not exactly the old style I loved so much, but not too far off. Not a lot to argue with about his conformation. Bet there's at least one mare owner thinking, geez, wish I'd seen him a week before. ;-)
If you've seen any of the videos of Denali he's a Morgan.
He isn't just gorgeous- what a great brain! His new people are VERY lucky- he's a dream.
In general, Arabs are not one of my favorite breeds, but this guy is gorgeous and actually seems to have a good mind. Hope to see more videos of his progression.
They do have very good minds. They learn fast. Our Anglo Arab knew instantly how to change leads during a canter 1 for 1, this was in a dressage barn. Nobody would credit him for it, just because he's an Arab. Twice as smart as Warmbloods. They're real horses, not sofas.
Wow he his such a great horse ! Can’t stop watching….
This horse is really something. Beautiful to look at, is a great mover and even though he's not quite sure of "those cows" he's not going absolutely Nuts over them. The arabs that I have been around usually when frightened would dead stop, do the sinking splits and wheel around to the opposite direction - not fun to ride & hard to stay on! But this boy just might change my mind. He is definitely Not a knot- head! Be instering to watch when you push around some cows with him. Great job.
What a picture perfect looking horse 🐴👀. It’s nice to see him settle when you drive him.
Isn't he just the interesting young fella?! Surely seems to have a metric ton of potential waiting to be developed! Going to put the popcorn on for following videos! :)
I am in love with this horse! 😍
I have never ridden anything but arabs and even on video can see he is special.
He is someone's heart horse. He is fantastic.
Them cows are callin to him. Wonder what he'd do if you let one in.
Arabians never forget! They deserve a excellent trainer, they learn the wrong thing as quickly as the right thing. My herd is mostly Arabians, they are all good natured. One of the mares I started was 6 yrs old, barely halter broke, i got that accomplished easily. She was so very good natured and kind. I worked with her for 15 minutes, saddled her and sat on her. I don't recommend that normally, but she was telling me it was ok and it was, she was great!
Wonderfull horse -
Excellent trainer!
Thank you so much!
Good morning guys. Great job Tim , i think he is going to be a really nice horse. looking forward to his complete training. thank you Tim's sister for camera work and as all ways Tim's training.
Gosh this horse is so sensitive and intelligent. Great trainer.
He definitely looks used to long lining with a circingle and maybe saddle seat, which was why the heavier western saddle startled him for a minute. I worked at an Arabian barn for two years about 20 hours a week- the best experience of my life!❤
What a fine horse he is. His only real issue (that I can see from my comfy armchair) is that he's not familiar with cattle. He's already much easier around them so it won't take long for him to be okay with them. Everything else you tried on him seemed either familiar or just plain normal to him. I can't wait to see how he goes once he realizes he's safe with you.
I love this horse. He recovers so well from his little spooks doesn’t totally freak out.
And doesnt run over everybody and everything as he gets away! Mind still engaged, which to me is Excellent.
I am in love with his brain and try..alot of people I know complain bad about Arabians..but I say they don't understand what true heart ,try willingness, is until they get a Arabians on their side..tho a Arabians is definitely not the breed of horse you want to piss off..they can take thing personally and from there it can become real cowboy..and dangerous..as hard as they will work for you they can go the opposite if pissed off..
I've yet to see a dangerous Arab, including stallions.
Beautiful horse, a real eyeful!!
I do get concerned Tim at how breathless you get with little exertion, please get checked out if you haven't already.
Agreed this ones a keeper, lucky owner.
He’s mentioned that in previous videos.
A lot of us trainers that have done the work have “ trainers lungs” from breathing so much corral dust and manure. It’s just a thing. I puff like a train but still can outwork and outride kids half my age and less.😆
He only has 37 % lung function. I have only been watching for a few months, so I don't know why he has that.
What an amazing horse! This kind of first encounter assessment is always a challenge (for both humans and horses), and with all your experience, Tim, you were able to give Saber the frame to show the best of himself, best he could give that very moment. Looking forward to seeing more of this beautifully honest horse!
Love this work, you and the horse !
He is a magnificent horse! 😍🤩. You are super with him, very inspiring, thank you! 🐎👌
What a good boy. Such a good personality.
I started taking lessons about 50 years ago in Germany where it was mandatory to do everything of the left side. You would get yelled at if you did it from the right. Reason, horses are better in gaining knowledge on the left side.
Well luckily we learned that this was a bunch of BS.
Teach your horse to everything on both sides.
Hey Tim, I got a 10 yr old Arabian mare your welcome to break … 😉
Super nice horse - and I'm not a big fan of Arabians. I'd use him for endurance. As you said - you can't tire an Arabian out.
They make great cow horses as well.
You have a couple of really nice, interesting horses in lately. Very well explained and executed. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for sharing Tim and Malinda. ❤️
He's listening so well to you... beautiful ❤
A pleasure to watch. He's beautiful. Positive session 🩵✌️
I almost missed this video cause I was looking for "Part 2" in the title. :)
Saber looks so wonderful! Love your gentle leadership approach to his training! Would be so excited to see him on endurance trails southeast! So sweet!❤❤❤❤❤
Beautiful, good minded horse. Best of luck with him!
I usually don’t like Arabians but man is he going to be a really cool guy!
No disrespect intended, but it's a silly prejudice to dislike Arabs. Every light horse out there has Arab blood, even Percherons. I think people are literally put off by their beauty.
Nice work Tim! this horse is going to be a good one, very athletic and willing!
That is a gorgeous horse!!
He knows his stuff been here before. Moves beautifully
I agree that Arabians are thinkers. They are smart. They have opinions. Some people interpret that negatively, but my opinion is that there’s nothing as frustrating or potentially boring as a truly stupid or checked out horse. I’ll take my Arab mare with all of her sass and silliness and fire over the alternative every day of the week.
You are not wrong but I won a world title on a horse that I joke was smart as a rock. Lol.
He'll keep you on your toes !! He seems to be gentle. Guess I will see how that pans out
He is just a beauty. Pretty settled. He seems to be connecting with you better.
again, very nicely done.
I like the fact that, even though he’s a little jumpy because of the cows, and new surroundings, you are completely calm yourself. I usually become a little jumpy myself, unfortunately
That is very hard for many people to do. I really don't think there is any secret to remaining calm it just takes practice. I think that my 20+ years of law enforcement experience has helped me with that more than anything.
He is just a fantastic horse!!!
Gorgeous horse
He’s absolutely beautiful!
This is going to make a great horse. He's got a good mind
I am so in love with this horse. I love his mind. He reminds me of my late Arabian. I have a Friesian I would trade for this horse.
He is awesome.
He just doesn't seem to know what to make of those cows. But he seems to have a very good head on him, especially for an Arabian who are nickname the dragons for a reason. He seems like a nice level-headed horse.
Great training session with Saber he'd win the Tavis cup endurance race hands down that Arab power and stamina ❤
I'm glad you explained the 'use of the cows'
He's such a good boy. He seems fairly laid back, like he's got a great head.
Well, right after I typed in my question, you answered it. He’d be good working cows!
Footnote: Advice owners to purchase a semi-tree saddle to fit an Arab-backed horse.
Man I like this horse!!!
He is a beauty!
What a pleasure to watch. Great job on your part and his.
Arabs are misunderstood a lot of the time. Looking forward to more videos. Thank you.
He seems happy to follow your decisions in spite of his anxiety about the cows. Nice at the end where he was getting more relaxed about the cows and becoming straighter on the circle (following the circle ,not counter bent). Might he be a good cow horse? Or is he too good natured to want to push them around?🐂🐂🐂
I had a "quarter horse only" guy admit that many Arabians have "cow sense. Looks like he may have been right.
I had a thoroughbred that had cow sense. You have to test each individual to see if they have that capacity.
What a beauty.
He reminds me so much of my Arabian stallion right down to the cows. My horses were raised within sight of the neighbor's cows, but never got up close to them. After I sustained a serious injury (not horse related), I had to send some horses out for training. I chose a trainer that mostly worked with Quarter Horses and had cows. My stud was mesmerized by those cows being up close for days, but he figured them out and turned them into game time. The trainer fell in love with my boy and took him everywhere, even to the Quarter Horse shows with his QH stud, where he impressed a lot of people who previously didn't have high opinions of Arabians. They have such a bad reputation with a lot of people. They're very loyal, versatile, smart and can go forever. The only other horse that compared was my mustang that I had as a kid. Some of the Arabians that I've purchased over the years were more problematic ("high strung", spooky, poor ground manners or aggressive), but they were all stall babies, only turned out by themselves and handled as if they were fragile or too pretty to get dirty and then trained to hype up to show off in halter. I'm a huge believer in letting animals use their brains out in their natural setting and expose them to everything you can think of or they'll use their brains for other things that you probably won't like so much.
What a good boy...!
Mr. tim, I like him a lot. You are working with a horse 🐎 that he doesn't like it a lot. Have a nice day, tim, a Anderson and ranch and horse training
Eye candy. Nice horse
Btw...sorry for "getting lost in my memories "
I love the way you theat him, and you're correct.... Arabians arevery smart and can work and run forever. ❤
He's awesome and totally fascinated with the cows
Looks like he's doing great. I have had friends that have not had good luck with arabians. I look forward to more videos of Saber.
Arabians are good horses but just like any breed they have their breed traits that you have to accommodate for.
Too smart to be dominated and get bored quickly
Beautiful Saber❤❤❤
Looks like he's doing great. I have had friends that have not had good luck with arabians.
He’s gorgeous. Great mind! Seems to be able to multitask. Watch cows and mind you at the same time.
Jeez Ur a good trainer
The saddling went smoothly enough, period. It would have gone smoother had his attention been on the saddle, not the cows. Personally, I think not turning him away was a disservice to him. Just my opinion.
At any rate, i am now subscribed.
I was not hopeful after the first video. But he proved me wrong in this one. I have not been around Arabian’s.
What a beauty
Very smart and willing, even tho I'm not Arab fan
My Arabian Stallion which I had sense he was 18 mon had such a good mind that my 5 y.o. could handle and a dream to train.
@timandersonhorsetraining although i was taught how to castrate horses in school, i never got to follow a horse from long-time stud to gelding for any length of time. I know right now there must be all kinds of crazy hormone ups and downs for him, so soon after gelding. How long does it usually take to even out and the edge to come off of a horse like this, in your experience? Thanks always for such great videos.
Great question. My experience is most act 80% like a gelding in 60 days unless they are gelded in the spring then it takes until the following fall.
He’s so distracted 🫣🤣
Tim just curious why you don't run the lines through stirrups? I tie the stirrups together run twine through girth ring.
If you run the lines through the stirrups and the horse bolts or looses forward you are limited in ways to respond. This way it is very east to transfer to lunging then back again to driving to rate speed. Takes some practice this way but works better for me.
Tim, is he a Polish Arabian?
Polish bred
😊pretty