Aren't these tests rather short? I think it's worth mentioning that in tasks that take more time, the benefit will be more pronounced as it will take the components longer to climb into the thermal throttling range or they may not hit that range at all. I think that there is more benefit here than is realized. I recommend running msi kombustor to show how they perform at max load over a period of time.
I'll definitely be trying this out after 4 years of owning my inspiron 7559! It hits 90degrees so easily compared to when it was brand new. I opened it up recently to replace the battery and saw how much dust there was. I'll definitely clean it out and re apply thermal paste! Thanks man. If you're gonna ask why I didn't clean my laptop those past 4 years, its because in my third world country its actually pretty hard to find a compressed can of air, I'll have to order it online.
Companies always use cheap thermal paste and the production line moves too quickly for it to be applied with care. Taking the time to replace it with top notch paste WITHOUT using too much or too little will show you great results. I just opened up a brand new GPU and found they applied far too much paste to the point where it was covering an assortment of components around the processor itself. After changing the paste over I saw the temp drop average of 15c on my current favorite game.
Thermal Grizzly is great. I'm currently using GELID GC-Extreme which is awesome too. I used to use Arctic Silver which works pretty good for first year but it will start drying up slowly, but then about that time you need to get the heatsink a good cleaning. Even with Arctic silver 5, I had some real good thermal results.
Replacing it every two years is good to me. I got a 2020 omen 15 and just replaced it today. Dropped temps by 7 degrees the gpu paste was okay but the cpu paste was dry.
if you gonna game on a laptop a lot, ive bought a normal laptop and when i bought it, games were running smoothly, now i get high temps and lower frames. So its a good idea to change thermal paste every 2 years. not to mention i barely hit 2ghz when my cpu supports 3.6ghz.
If the heat transfer quality of the thermal paste is better or higher than the stock (what type & brand was/is used) type, it's worth it, in my opinion, to upgrade the paste. Have a Lenovo S145 that I am doing some work on, & have artic silver to upgrade. Thanks & a good video!
It's the chipset, the igpu is built into the cpu die, the chipset runs cool without a heatsink so putting paste on it would make the heat from the cpu go into the chipset which would make the chipset temps higher, hope this helps.
@@hamadalshawaf4529 the igpu is integrated into the cpu die the smaller die is the chipset (the chipset does not have graphics in it and only controls storage and io.)
@@hamadalshawaf4529 in fact the easiest way to tell if both dies need thermal paste is: when you take off the cooler do both dies have old paste on them, if so then repaste both of them, if only one die has paste on it ,then only paste the die which had old paste on it.
The Dell G7 7588 repaste is a nightmare compared to this. You have to pretty much tear the entire machine down to every last component, risking breaking something along the way. It takes three hours...oh joy...
Same with my old HP Pavilion dv4-1000 series. Literally have to do a complete disassembly. Screen removal, topside bezel, keyboard... Everything, to get to the fans, cpu, and gpu. They should have issued a class action recall on it. Not for all that, but for them cutting corners and providing terrible airflow leading to component failure with normal usage.
@@terrapinflyer273 Shame considering on my Dell 7588, the M.2 SSD, 2.5 inch drive, SODIMMs, and battery are all super easy. I'm interested in the Framework as my next laptop, now that my recent desktop build can do hefty GPU tasks and games.
Thats great but retesting 6 months in is what I would be interested in. I had this weird suspicion that thermal pastes of high quality tend to be pushed out by the high mounting pressures and the high temperature fluctuations inside laptops and so far, the only high end laptop I had would drop from 80C temps to 55-60 when reapplying a thermal paste, and over the next 3 months would slowly get back to those temperatures again. Then I tried the same thing on a desktop, same result. After reapplying thermal paste: Great temperatures. 1 week in you would already see things go bad. Dont know if other people have the same experience.
This is why I pre-spread the paste (like with an old gift card or something), and I apply on both the chip and the heatsink. This ensures proper paste coverage, reduces the likelihood of over-pasting, and reduces air pockets.
For how long was the laptop used with the stock paste? I want to change the paste on my 2.5 year old laptop because I believe either that, and/or the lack of cleaning might be the culprit for the massive performance drop compared to how it performed when it was new. The OS installation is fairly new on it, but hardware-wise, it hasn't been maintained properly before. (And I know how terrible the configuration is to begin with, please don't tell me.) Model: HP pavilion 15 aw009nh CPU: AMD A10-9600P GPU: AMD Radeon R7 M440 (4 GB DDR3) RAM: 8 GB DDR4-1866
@@quickclips510 yes, so? what if there is no thermal throttling, but power limit throttling instead? which is very common for 15- watt CPU-s and today's i7\i9 45 watt CPU-s. That's where undervolting helps reduce(or in case of games often completely remove) power limit throttling
@@guiast2367 undervolting makes the CPU work more efficiently, therefore reducing or removing power limit throttling, as more clockspeeds "fit in" 15 or 45 power limit.
Is 70% isopropyl enough? I can't get 90+% in my country from commercial retail. I can only get medical alcohol pads at 70%. Also is it possible to make a detailed walkthrough for taking apart Dell Inspiron 5420 to replace the hardened thermal paste?
Did..... What was that module next the cpu die, on the cpu pcb. Was that memory?, didnt look like you put thermal compound on it. (It looked to have some before hand
if you open Task Manager in windows 10 and go to Performance tab you will see that the integrated chip is almost always used, sometimes up to 100%, also in default settings on a 4K video on youtub for example it will always sit at 100% and frag like crazy...laptop CPUs are usually choked to power due to cooling and power source limits, but the integrated graphics will drain a lot now...
I am searching if replacing thermal paste on my 3 yrs old laptop is worth, before I got 55-58 degrees Celsius at minimum temperature (cpu) and 55 degrees on gpu minimum temp. I tried putting thermal pad on top of the copper heatpipe of the cpu and gpu to transfer heat at the back of my laptop cover. Well the temperature has a great improvement. now both cpu and gpu got 45 degrees Celsius minimum temp. so i am deciding to replace my thermal paste or not, because the thermal pads makes a great job after all. i just dont know the longevity of the thermal pads.
@1:55 So, does it matter if the thermal paste oozes off of the die onto that outer green portion (idk what that is). Like will anything bad happen to the laptop, or should I not worry about it?
Aslong as your paste is non conductive you can go crazy with paste, the tension arms will make sure its not too much on the die itself and the PCB (green part) wont get damaged, just be careful if you use liquid metal or something like that, in that case the CPU might short and die if it oozes out on the sides
@@AndreasRP. No, because it makes air bubbles when it's pressed. On the center is enough, and when you put heatsink it spreads enough. I work with that for years, never have problems, temperatures are always 33-45° of the cpu. Size of the thermal paste needs to be like peas
@@irinapeulic5344 The air bubbles find their way out eventually, the spread method is best because you can cover the whole cpu, the center method is bad because you only cover about 40% of the cpu. Watch that video. ua-cam.com/video/wn2ln04dquM/v-deo.html
monitor your temps using softwares like MSI Afterburner or Core Temp while gaming. If your temps goes above 70degrees i can say you should change but its up to your computers cooling system
They screw it up right in the beginning during manufacturing by using cheap paste and doing flimsy job. My advice is to always change the thermal paste when you buy the device. If you are not feeling confident just let someone else do it.
Hi, and thank you for this video. Quick question: Do you think any thermal paste would yield these benefits? I live in Ecuador and band electronic stuff like Grizzly Kryonaut are nowhere to be found here.
2020 and my Bios Flashed Acer C710- Celeron 2487 Chromebook running Ubuntu Studio 18.04, Is worth doing this to. I bought it new from Newegg in 2013!!!!! Flashed the bios in 2016 ( thank you John Lewis )... Still working today.. Installed Samsung EVO 500gb SSD in 2019...
My laptop is throttling very badly while gaming. Valorant opens at minimum 100 degrees. I cannot take this to the computer shop to get it replaced since its closed because of the corona season. So right now, i just kept the turbo disabled, so that it doesnt end up throttling. Is it normal for the system to still throttle even after disabling turbo? the moment i hit temperatures of 70 to 75degrees constant, my system would start throttling.
Yup, Ikr. Its soo fishy to the point that i dont know what to say. According to what i have tested up til now, any game which i play will throttle from 70/75 degrees till 90 degrees. After 90 degrees, the clock speed boosts from 1.6 to 2.5 and stays stuck there provided that the system is over 90 degrees. xD Ultra amazing. Yup ill slap that new paste after this season ends. Hopefully all these problems get destroyed in one shot.
not recommended for laptops, because laptop CPUs lack IHS and you might get some on a cap and short it out. Thermal Grizzly non conductive and GELID GC-Extreme are better alternative and will last longer and are safer
ZankDigiTrash I mean... Some people are willing to delid their CPU for this very purpose but still considering between liquid metal and better quality paste
Thermal_Sniper X don’t know if you repasted yet but figured I would chime in. I have a dell gaming laptop with the i7 7700hq and gtx 1060 max q. It would run so hot (new) that you could fry an egg on the keyboard and sometimes even thermal shutdown. I always had to keep it elevated up off the desk too. I turned off the 1060 completely and just use an egpu with a gtx 1080. Yesterday I finally repasted using arctic mx-4 2019 and it (gtx 1060 still turned off) brought the cpu temps during intel XTU stress test down from a fluctuating 72c-92c to 70c-75c. When I took the heat pipe off there was only thermal paste on about half of the cpu.
@@dwikydarmawan1989 no luck, ended up selling the notebook, so sad Dell does not make decent cooling systems for entry level units, maybe liquid metal works but we lose warranty
We used asus gpu tweak II to increase the gpu max temp from 74c to 92c back then haha 😄. Some fresh kyro and k1 pro for the memory and the temps leveled off at 80c for the the gpu and cpu with well over 100% boost in fps!
At 1:45, you just made a huge mistake. The smaller chip isn't a CPU and you're not supposed to repaste it as it cools by itself. Only repaste the bigger chip which is the CPU. Repasting the smaller chip (or also known as PCH), could result in unexpected behavior such as overheating.
I have Kryonaut sitting on my self right now and I have a loud gaming laptop. Hopefully it works because the fans get to 5000 rpm under load and the cpu gets to over 90c!
fake news. All that matters is that the entire surface is fully coated. It's actually better to put too much than too little ESPECIALLY on exposed silicon as we have here. The excess will be squeezed out to the sides.
Its been 5 6 months since I bought this laptop with a Core i5 8250u and an MX150, recently it started to get to high temps like 50-60 Ghz on idle even running at 0.8 to 1.5Ghz! I'm considering repasting using an Arctic MX-4, how does it sound?
@@WccftechTv I'm utterly disapointed at what type of cooling Acer provides in this laptop. Over the past days since I posted the first comment, I've changed the paste 10 times up to no benefit, the temps go up high as much as 85c on gpu and 82c on cpu, I have tried less and more paste, different application methods but couldn't decrease temps, very disappointed!
for me, it sounds like you lost the silicon lottery and ended up with the less efficient batch of cpu or gpu; i have this laptop with same specs as well but I have never gone anywhere above 75c even with stock thermal paste
@@ghostrider2240 efficiency might be the wrong word; voltage would be the correct word I am looking for, as not all chips have same voltage tolerance even if model is same. Have you tried undervolting your CPU? Heatsink design is definitely flawed but I have the same flawed laptop with flawed heatsink design but still have better thermal.
Should always spread thermal paste on CPU and GPU dies to assure proper coverage. On CPU's IHS it doesn't matter much if corners aren't fully covered because the die is mostly contacting the center of the IHS but dies should always be covered fully.
Ihave an 9years old lenovo t530 i play fortnite on it and the paste was never changed so now it is 50*C when istart my pc if you will changed it will decreased for more then 20 *C so yeah do it
I cleaned mine with isopropyl alcohol. Takes the factory paste right off. Dries pretty quickly too I wiped down with a coffee filter after just to remove any residue so dies are nice and shiny.
it does, when i replaced stock tim with grizzy's liquid metal my temps went down around 12-15 degrees cpu clock went from 2700 to 3400mhz and gpu clock also its higher i did not note how much tho also cooling system its way quiter fant dont ramp up to max rpm so HELL YEAH its worth it!! oh i forgot to mention hardware its lenovos legion with 7700hq and 6gig gtx 1060maxQ
Try the surface laptops. I believe its impossible to get into it without damaging it in someway. Either the heatgun used to heat up the adhesive melts the plastic chassis and keys or you tear up that soft velvet material around the keyboard and palm rest.
😏 if its not broke or overheating dont fix it, especially if its a model that is difficult to disassemble, but if u have an easy disasemble model (some newer dells) then sure go for it just be careful and take ur time 🤓
@@eben216 i have the exact same model, bought it october 2018. I clean the fan regularly, but it getting hotter and hotter. Now i considering to repaste both the cpu and gpu.
@@queenvexus2145 yes, when I first buy it I did not use full cooler boost to play regular AAA games like the witcher 3, but now it's easily to get hot even I use the cooler boost and it's only get minor fps boost, okay then so I must repaste them so my laptop did not easily getting hotter then
I have bad news. Most of the thermal pastes and specifically Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut has long term performance issues. After couple of weeks they dry out and temperatures start creeping up. This is due to high end laptop cpu’s running on high temperatures under heavy load such as gaming. These temperatures are between 80 to 100 degrees C. There are couple of thermal pastes such as ICD7 and CM Maker Nano with stable heat transfer up to 6 months to a year. Then again a repaste is required. So far the only long term solution is high quality liquid metal. However this solution has high risks.Thermal pads also has fitment issues due to uneven cpu gpu die surfaces.
I've had artic silver 5 and mx-4 on 2 different laptops. 1 of them has a gt 755m with an i7-4700mq and the other one has an i7-7700hq and gtx 1060. The 4th i7 laptop is from 2014 and in 2015 I repasted that with artic silver 5 and have only cleaned out the fans every 3-6 months. It's runs games on a daily...both machines do actually. The 1060 laptop with mx-4 also got a repaste within the month of purchase and I just kept the fans clean. 7yrs and 5yrs later or basically 6 months ago I got curious to see if the thermal paste had gone south so I repasted them accordingly and saw no improvement whatsoever. The 555m laptop in valorant stays under 75cand under 80c for the cpu. The 1060 stays under 80c and under 85c for the cpu. 5yrs and 7yrs later and they were still good as new. All I had to do was keep the heatsink and fan units clean
Bad advice, replacing thermal paste does make a big difference but follow someone else's guide. That was too much thermal paste, enough or maybe too much for even a desktop socket lol.
Definitely way too much. It was probably too late to modify the video or couldn't be bothered starting again. But it was way too much. It should be a pea size and applied as a cross or multiple spread out dots
Sorry but your teaching people how to fray there laptops only this way dont creat a video with out adding the basic roles like 1 close laptop 2 remove battery 3 better wait 20min atleast to make sure no electricity is stored in the motherboard 4 make sure the paste you are using dosnt conduct electricity as much as possible (for beginners) which is safer and better also .good luck all
Solid video, thank you. I have the same laptop and will be picking up some Kryonaut as a replacement TIM. And for all those that are saying "too much" check out the link. Happy viewing. ua-cam.com/video/EUWVVTY63hc/v-deo.html
Short answer.....*YES* those *5 celcius* is realy game changer if you live in the *MIDDLE OF DESERT* like me
Thinking of doing this on a new MSI laptop I got, But I like being able to keep my hands warm when gaming so I am not sure lol
@@AshleyTyagi Ah yes the good old no cooling equal free heater trick
@@justyourlocalwitchhunter9184 noice trick
LOL sonoran desert here. its a problem
Hear hear hear
Did the same on my laptop from 2011, reduced temps from 85 celsius to 60 celsius. and ALOT quieter.
Awhat?
Zack
Lol
what,i thought 15 degrees was enough
Which laptop Im using a laptop from 2012 poor specs
Does it make the battery last longer?
Aren't these tests rather short? I think it's worth mentioning that in tasks that take more time, the benefit will be more pronounced as it will take the components longer to climb into the thermal throttling range or they may not hit that range at all. I think that there is more benefit here than is realized. I recommend running msi kombustor to show how they perform at max load over a period of time.
I'll definitely be trying this out after 4 years of owning my inspiron 7559! It hits 90degrees so easily compared to when it was brand new. I opened it up recently to replace the battery and saw how much dust there was. I'll definitely clean it out and re apply thermal paste! Thanks man. If you're gonna ask why I didn't clean my laptop those past 4 years, its because in my third world country its actually pretty hard to find a compressed can of air, I'll have to order it online.
What is the result of applying the thermal paste?
I am having heating issue on my 7559 as well, isit worth it for me to re apply thermal paste? How was the result?
Companies always use cheap thermal paste and the production line moves too quickly for it to be applied with care. Taking the time to replace it with top notch paste WITHOUT using too much or too little will show you great results. I just opened up a brand new GPU and found they applied far too much paste to the point where it was covering an assortment of components around the processor itself. After changing the paste over I saw the temp drop average of 15c on my current favorite game.
Great video! those were the test results i was looking for.
I would say reducing the peak temps helps with component and board longevity.
Wow that temperature drop is really significant! I think I will give it a shot!
Man, this is impressive, i have the exactly same computer as you and i was wondering the same thing.
Thermal Grizzly is great. I'm currently using GELID GC-Extreme which is awesome too. I used to use Arctic Silver which works pretty good for first year but it will start drying up slowly, but then about that time you need to get the heatsink a good cleaning. Even with Arctic silver 5, I had some real good thermal results.
once it took me about 25 screws and 15 mins just to reach to the fan for cleaning the dust out
Clean the fan, as good as new, but stick and span it's hard to do. 🎵🎶🎵
Remember the Clean the Fan song?
Alright, that looks easy enough that I could do it. Thanks for the video.
Replacing it every two years is good to me. I got a 2020 omen 15 and just replaced it today. Dropped temps by 7 degrees the gpu paste was okay but the cpu paste was dry.
I think this is a must for low end pcs that run really hot and will benefit from it reducing thermal throttling
if you gonna game on a laptop a lot, ive bought a normal laptop and when i bought it, games were running smoothly, now i get high temps and lower frames. So its a good idea to change thermal paste every 2 years. not to mention i barely hit 2ghz when my cpu supports 3.6ghz.
Did you replace your thermal paste? Did it improve your clock speed?
If the heat transfer quality of the thermal paste is better or higher than the stock (what type & brand was/is used) type, it's worth it, in my opinion, to upgrade the paste. Have a Lenovo S145 that I am doing some work on, & have artic silver to upgrade. Thanks & a good video!
1:38 wait a second, did dell just not put thermal paste on that secondary die which I assume is the igpu?
Yes they don't for some reason
It's the chipset, the igpu is built into the cpu die, the chipset runs cool without a heatsink so putting paste on it would make the heat from the cpu go into the chipset which would make the chipset temps higher, hope this helps.
@@Remi-h8z wait so im replacing my thermal paste so i should not put it on igpu?
@@hamadalshawaf4529 the igpu is integrated into the cpu die the smaller die is the chipset (the chipset does not have graphics in it and only controls storage and io.)
@@hamadalshawaf4529 in fact the easiest way to tell if both dies need thermal paste is: when you take off the cooler do both dies have old paste on them, if so then repaste both of them, if only one die has paste on it ,then only paste the die which had old paste on it.
great video man. I know a certain someone with a 5 year old Samsung laptop that I'll be doing this for now lol
I tried this to my msi phone damm son faster clock speed
I have a old laptop, DRY LIKE SAND thermal paste, fans ram like a jet engine, after thermal paste, my ears feel better
same 😭🤣 here in ma dell 13 5379
Using kyronaut on my old dell laptop my temps went from 90c down to low 60c incredible decrease in thermals
How old is your laptop?
It's from 2014
@@quickclips510 nice then I should defiantly change main as well
@@johnadam1271 a definite must
@@quickclips510 only last question what is your room temperature when you got 60c or now?
Lmao
*Unscrews cpu and gpu heatsinks without removing the battery*
@GPUOverHeat there is a chance it could short. best practice is to disconnect it
honestly not that big an issue. dont stick wires between things, and dont push the power button without the cooler on it
I have the same laptop, you can't remove the battery, the cables are soldered to the motherboard.
@@droidmotorola3884 wth
@@andrelucascorreia6307 ye
The Dell G7 7588 repaste is a nightmare compared to this. You have to pretty much tear the entire machine down to every last component, risking breaking something along the way. It takes three hours...oh joy...
Same with my old HP Pavilion dv4-1000 series. Literally have to do a complete disassembly. Screen removal, topside bezel, keyboard... Everything, to get to the fans, cpu, and gpu. They should have issued a class action recall on it. Not for all that, but for them cutting corners and providing terrible airflow leading to component failure with normal usage.
@@terrapinflyer273 Shame considering on my Dell 7588, the M.2 SSD, 2.5 inch drive, SODIMMs, and battery are all super easy. I'm interested in the Framework as my next laptop, now that my recent desktop build can do hefty GPU tasks and games.
Yup! This is why i am too scared to change the thermal paste on mine.
Good tutorial and thermal test. Very helpful 👍
Why didnt you put thermal paste on the little thing next to the processor (which I assume it is an integrated graphic card based on my researches)?
Thats great but retesting 6 months in is what I would be interested in.
I had this weird suspicion that thermal pastes of high quality tend to be pushed out by the high mounting pressures and the high temperature fluctuations inside laptops and so far, the only high end laptop I had would drop from 80C temps to 55-60 when reapplying a thermal paste, and over the next 3 months would slowly get back to those temperatures again.
Then I tried the same thing on a desktop, same result. After reapplying thermal paste: Great temperatures. 1 week in you would already see things go bad. Dont know if other people have the same experience.
@NewAccount 1974 Ive done that with Thermal grizzly and arctic silver 5. Same results.
I am guesing the thermal cycleing just pushes the paste out.
My CPU and heatsink pretty much stuck like a glue bcs of the thermal paste and never been open until now and much older than this video I guess
Cool thanks! Gonna do this today because I notice my laptop has been much louder than usual.
I think that's too much paste, some may have spread onto the PCH die.
This is why I pre-spread the paste (like with an old gift card or something), and I apply on both the chip and the heatsink. This ensures proper paste coverage, reduces the likelihood of over-pasting, and reduces air pockets.
what's the PCH Die?
For how long was the laptop used with the stock paste? I want to change the paste on my 2.5 year old laptop because I believe either that, and/or the lack of cleaning might be the culprit for the massive performance drop compared to how it performed when it was new. The OS installation is fairly new on it, but hardware-wise, it hasn't been maintained properly before. (And I know how terrible the configuration is to begin with, please don't tell me.)
Model: HP pavilion 15 aw009nh
CPU: AMD A10-9600P
GPU: AMD Radeon R7 M440 (4 GB DDR3)
RAM: 8 GB DDR4-1866
Nice, but for performance improvement and further temp drop you need to do undervolting.
Removing thermal throttling is a increase in performance
@@quickclips510 yes, so? what if there is no thermal throttling, but power limit throttling instead? which is very common for 15- watt CPU-s and today's i7\i9 45 watt CPU-s. That's where undervolting helps reduce(or in case of games often completely remove) power limit throttling
I think that's the same notebook as mine, and I guarantee there's power throttle
But I don't understand how giving less power to the CPU would make it better ? That's undervolting do right?
@@guiast2367 undervolting makes the CPU work more efficiently, therefore reducing or removing power limit throttling, as more clockspeeds "fit in" 15 or 45 power limit.
Very helpful video. Good job! Noisy fan isn't critical but it is annoying.
so it works great!
(the more the cpu crunches data the hotter)
Is 70% isopropyl enough? I can't get 90+% in my country from commercial retail. I can only get medical alcohol pads at 70%.
Also is it possible to make a detailed walkthrough for taking apart Dell Inspiron 5420 to replace the hardened thermal paste?
No 70% might leave behind some particles and dirt. 90+ is what is needed.
AIDA64? Wasn't it replaced (generation-wise) by HWINFO64?
Did..... What was that module next the cpu die, on the cpu pcb. Was that memory?, didnt look like you put thermal compound on it. (It looked to have some before hand
well that was intel integrated graphics chip and nobody uses it so doesnt matter much
if you open Task Manager in windows 10 and go to Performance tab you will see that the integrated chip is almost always used, sometimes up to 100%, also in default settings on a 4K video on youtub for example it will always sit at 100% and frag like crazy...laptop CPUs are usually choked to power due to cooling and power source limits, but the integrated graphics will drain a lot now...
Thermal grizzly kryonaut , the perfect thermal paste than all of the thermal paste brand combined ♡♡♡♡♡
Ptm7950 is the real og. Kryonaut has pumpout effect on laptops which results in short performance life.
Why didn´t you change the thermal pad too?
Would you advise replacing a thermal pad with thermal paste, on an old Acer Aspire 5270 with Intel c2Duo T7330 and 3GB RAM?
I am searching if replacing thermal paste on my 3 yrs old laptop is worth, before I got 55-58 degrees Celsius at minimum temperature (cpu) and 55 degrees on gpu minimum temp. I tried putting thermal pad on top of the copper heatpipe of the cpu and gpu to transfer heat at the back of my laptop cover. Well the temperature has a great improvement. now both cpu and gpu got 45 degrees Celsius minimum temp.
so i am deciding to replace my thermal paste or not, because the thermal pads makes a great job after all. i just dont know the longevity of the thermal pads.
Thanks. Now I know I don't need an expensive thermal paste for my laptop.
My c and gpu are usually about 90 dgerees if i run it for a long time or run a VERY SLIGHTLY heavy game. It us SO close to shutting down.
My laptop temps: yes. Yes.
Whatever stock toothpaste they put on laptops is just terrible.
@1:55 So, does it matter if the thermal paste oozes off of the die onto that outer green portion (idk what that is). Like will anything bad happen to the laptop, or should I not worry about it?
Aslong as your paste is non conductive you can go crazy with paste, the tension arms will make sure its not too much on the die itself and the PCB (green part) wont get damaged, just be careful if you use liquid metal or something like that, in that case the CPU might short and die if it oozes out on the sides
@@lumpump1011 are liquid metal better?
How to apply it just put it on there in the center and putt he heatsink bank on ? Or spread it out ?
Just in the center, and heatsink back on. Don't ever, ever spread it out.
@@irinapeulic5344 you're supposed to spread it out for an even surface, just putting it in the middle doesnt cover the hole cpu.
@@AndreasRP. No, because it makes air bubbles when it's pressed. On the center is enough, and when you put heatsink it spreads enough. I work with that for years, never have problems, temperatures are always 33-45° of the cpu. Size of the thermal paste needs to be like peas
@@irinapeulic5344 The air bubbles find their way out eventually, the spread method is best because you can cover the whole cpu, the center method is bad because you only cover about 40% of the cpu. Watch that video.
ua-cam.com/video/wn2ln04dquM/v-deo.html
Can i ask sir! How to know if your Laptop needs to change thermal paste
monitor your temps using softwares like MSI Afterburner or Core Temp while gaming. If your temps goes above 70degrees i can say you should change but its up to your computers cooling system
Thanks bro
They screw it up right in the beginning during manufacturing by using cheap paste and doing flimsy job. My advice is to always change the thermal paste when you buy the device. If you are not feeling confident just let someone else do it.
This is really helpful 👍
What program did you use to create the bar graphs?
How often to replace the thermal paste? Have an old HP laptop which is a bit hard to disassemble.
God, I wish redoing the thermal paste in my laptop was that easy.
Hi, and thank you for this video. Quick question: Do you think any thermal paste would yield these benefits? I live in Ecuador and band electronic stuff like Grizzly Kryonaut are nowhere to be found here.
My cpu transistor got som thermal paste on it. How do I clean it up?
2020 and my Bios Flashed Acer C710- Celeron 2487 Chromebook running Ubuntu Studio 18.04, Is worth doing this to. I bought it new from Newegg in 2013!!!!! Flashed the bios in 2016 ( thank you John Lewis )... Still working today.. Installed Samsung EVO 500gb SSD in 2019...
My laptop is throttling very badly while gaming. Valorant opens at minimum 100 degrees.
I cannot take this to the computer shop to get it replaced since its closed because of the corona season.
So right now, i just kept the turbo disabled, so that it doesnt end up throttling.
Is it normal for the system to still throttle even after disabling turbo?
the moment i hit temperatures of 70 to 75degrees constant, my system would start throttling.
Depends on the chip tbh but its strange that i thermal throttles at that temp. That thing is crying for thermal paste and fan cleaning lol .
Yup, Ikr. Its soo fishy to the point that i dont know what to say. According to what i have tested up til now, any game which i play will throttle from 70/75 degrees till 90 degrees. After 90 degrees, the clock speed boosts from 1.6 to 2.5 and stays stuck there provided that the system is over 90 degrees. xD Ultra amazing. Yup ill slap that new paste after this season ends. Hopefully all these problems get destroyed in one shot.
does the integrated graphics share the same die of the cpu itself?
90 degree celcius with a i7 7700hq on a -120 mv undervolt... considering a liquid metal replacement
not recommended for laptops, because laptop CPUs lack IHS and you might get some on a cap and short it out. Thermal Grizzly non conductive and GELID GC-Extreme are better alternative and will last longer and are safer
ZankDigiTrash I mean... Some people are willing to delid their CPU for this very purpose but still considering between liquid metal and better quality paste
Thermal_Sniper X don’t know if you repasted yet but figured I would chime in. I have a dell gaming laptop with the i7 7700hq and gtx 1060 max q. It would run so hot (new) that you could fry an egg on the keyboard and sometimes even thermal shutdown. I always had to keep it elevated up off the desk too. I turned off the 1060 completely and just use an egpu with a gtx 1080. Yesterday I finally repasted using arctic mx-4 2019 and it (gtx 1060 still turned off) brought the cpu temps during intel XTU stress test down from a fluctuating 72c-92c to 70c-75c. When I took the heat pipe off there was only thermal paste on about half of the cpu.
How's arctic mx2 now a days? Just for an i3 and onboard graphics.
Great video, very helpful! Thanks
finally! I'll check if my dell 5480 will benefit, it has a terrible mx150 throttle at 74°C, just ordered the thermal grizzy
Did it work for you ? I have acer aspire 5 with mx150...
Update please??
@@dwikydarmawan1989 no luck, ended up selling the notebook, so sad Dell does not make decent cooling systems for entry level units, maybe liquid metal works but we lose warranty
We used asus gpu tweak II to increase the gpu max temp from 74c to 92c back then haha 😄.
Some fresh kyro and k1 pro for the memory and the temps leveled off at 80c for the the gpu and cpu with well over 100% boost in fps!
At 1:45, you just made a huge mistake. The smaller chip isn't a CPU and you're not supposed to repaste it as it cools by itself. Only repaste the bigger chip which is the CPU. Repasting the smaller chip (or also known as PCH), could result in unexpected behavior such as overheating.
Do you perhaps know the dimensions of the heatpipe system?
Anyone getting thermal paste push out with any of the higher end pastes? MX-4 or H1?
came here to find out if it was worth it, turns out its the exact same laptop you're testing lmaooo
I have Kryonaut sitting on my self right now and I have a loud gaming laptop. Hopefully it works because the fans get to 5000 rpm under load and the cpu gets to over 90c!
update?
@@ThomasKrKr 3C improved, switched to conductonaut and got a 13c improved on cpu and 5c on gpu.
damn, so you are experiencing around 77°C at load even with liquid metal?
@@ThomasKrKr Yeah, I think it's pretty good.
that seemed like a lot of thermal paste for such a tiny chip. supposed to use a pea size drop for a desktop cpu.
fake news. All that matters is that the entire surface is fully coated. It's actually better to put too much than too little ESPECIALLY on exposed silicon as we have here. The excess will be squeezed out to the sides.
@@toomuchtruth correct.. the times I have seen heat damage on the corners of chips due to the 'blob in the middle' approach has convinced me
What thermal paste do you guys recommend for the asus rog strix GL502VM? Is Thermal grizzly kryonaut okay?
Okay but for GPU i'd reccomended using thermal graphite pad.
Its been 5 6 months since I bought this laptop with a Core i5 8250u and an MX150, recently it started to get to high temps like 50-60 Ghz on idle even running at 0.8 to 1.5Ghz! I'm considering repasting using an Arctic MX-4, how does it sound?
MX-4 is a solid choice but sounds like you might could use a dusting ;)
@@WccftechTv I'm utterly disapointed at what type of cooling Acer provides in this laptop. Over the past days since I posted the first comment, I've changed the paste 10 times up to no benefit, the temps go up high as much as 85c on gpu and 82c on cpu, I have tried less and more paste, different application methods but couldn't decrease temps, very disappointed!
for me, it sounds like you lost the silicon lottery and ended up with the less efficient batch of cpu or gpu; i have this laptop with same specs as well but I have never gone anywhere above 75c even with stock thermal paste
@@もののべつちやま Less efficient batch? All of these same chips have the same efficiency, its the design of the heatsink I'm talking about, its flawed
@@ghostrider2240 efficiency might be the wrong word; voltage would be the correct word I am looking for, as not all chips have same voltage tolerance even if model is same. Have you tried undervolting your CPU? Heatsink design is definitely flawed but I have the same flawed laptop with flawed heatsink design but still have better thermal.
Should always spread thermal paste on CPU and GPU dies to assure proper coverage. On CPU's IHS it doesn't matter much if corners aren't fully covered because the die is mostly contacting the center of the IHS but dies should always be covered fully.
Can u reiterate this using noob terms
@@MuhdIzzatFarhan basically.. you gotta spread that paste good without going to crazy.
Why he haven't applied thermal paste in the cpu integrated graphics?
that's not the integrated graphics, that's the PCH.
Can someone with a lenovo tell me if they temps decreased and how much?
Ihave an 9years old lenovo t530 i play fortnite on it and the paste was never changed so now it is 50*C when istart my pc if you will changed it will decreased for more then 20 *C so yeah do it
thanks man
What about 7 years old slim laptop
How did you clean it
I cleaned mine with isopropyl alcohol. Takes the factory paste right off. Dries pretty quickly too
I wiped down with a coffee filter after just to remove any residue so dies are nice and shiny.
How is Cooler Master Gel Pro? Did anybody use it?
It's insane...25° difference on my acer aspire 5
it does, when i replaced stock tim with grizzy's liquid metal my temps went down around 12-15 degrees cpu clock went from 2700 to 3400mhz and gpu clock also its higher i did not note how much tho also cooling system its way quiter fant dont ramp up to max rpm so HELL YEAH its worth it!! oh i forgot to mention hardware its lenovos legion with 7700hq and 6gig gtx 1060maxQ
Hmpf. I wish it was this easy with my gs65. Debating if it's worth the risk.
I'm in the exact same boat...
but on gaming laptops,oh yes is does make sense my acer helios drop 15 degrees and significant more silently
Cool i was trying to see if it was worth it I just bought a used thinkpad t540p with a i7 4810mq and a gt 730m sounds like it is worth it
Disasembling laptop is PAIN ...!!!
Then u should try macs!
for you
@@ubbgn they are worse
@@ubbgn Macs are literally impossible to take apart and you can't really do anything with
Try the surface laptops. I believe its impossible to get into it without damaging it in someway. Either the heatgun used to heat up the adhesive melts the plastic chassis and keys or you tear up that soft velvet material around the keyboard and palm rest.
Was ambient temp taken into account?
always.
So my GF's laptop went under a re-paste. Then her speakers broke, then it started smoking. Dafuq happened?
😏 if its not broke or overheating dont fix it, especially if its a model that is difficult to disassemble, but if u have an easy disasemble model (some newer dells) then sure go for it just be careful and take ur time 🤓
It makes sense to do it on a new laptop?
If you don't have thermal throttling, no !
Yes it does if you know what you are doing.
Alireza w0nder well it boots to max power for about 30 seconds then it slows back down, will changing the thermal paste increase this time?
@@PlayJewel if you're getting high temps, go for it ! I was getting 90 degrees under full load, after changing the paste i'm getting 75 !
I bought laptop 2 years ago, should I replace the thermal paste or should I wait more years?
Edit : it have gpu of gtx 1050 4gb and i5-8300H
Msi gl?
@@queenvexus2145 yes, GL63 8rc
@@eben216 i have the exact same model, bought it october 2018. I clean the fan regularly, but it getting hotter and hotter. Now i considering to repaste both the cpu and gpu.
@@eben216 i mean it getting ridiculously hot at full load, 95°C
@@queenvexus2145 yes, when I first buy it I did not use full cooler boost to play regular AAA games like the witcher 3, but now it's easily to get hot even I use the cooler boost and it's only get minor fps boost, okay then so I must repaste them so my laptop did not easily getting hotter then
What about a 5 year-old laptop?
Thanks
On macbooks, YES
I have bad news. Most of the thermal pastes and specifically Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut has long term performance issues. After couple of weeks they dry out and temperatures start creeping up. This is due to high end laptop cpu’s running on high temperatures under heavy load such as gaming. These temperatures are between 80 to 100 degrees C. There are couple of thermal pastes such as ICD7 and CM Maker Nano with stable heat transfer up to 6 months to a year. Then again a repaste is required. So far the only long term solution is high quality liquid metal. However this solution has high risks.Thermal pads also has fitment issues due to uneven cpu gpu die surfaces.
liquid metal on a laptop would result in corrosion of the heatsink. Most use copper ones and they are absolutely incompatible.
I've had artic silver 5 and mx-4 on 2 different laptops. 1 of them has a gt 755m with an i7-4700mq and the other one has an i7-7700hq and gtx 1060.
The 4th i7 laptop is from 2014 and in 2015 I repasted that with artic silver 5 and have only cleaned out the fans every 3-6 months. It's runs games on a daily...both machines do actually.
The 1060 laptop with mx-4 also got a repaste within the month of purchase and I just kept the fans clean.
7yrs and 5yrs later or basically 6 months ago I got curious to see if the thermal paste had gone south so I repasted them accordingly and saw no improvement whatsoever. The 555m laptop in valorant stays under 75cand under 80c for the cpu. The 1060 stays under 80c and under 85c for the cpu.
5yrs and 7yrs later and they were still good as new. All I had to do was keep the heatsink and fan units clean
Bad advice, replacing thermal paste does make a big difference but follow someone else's guide. That was too much thermal paste, enough or maybe too much for even a desktop socket lol.
Ask 10 different people on thermal paste application and you'll get 10 different responses. Everyone is an expert.
Yes obviously, but in this particular case it's way too much.
@@raheemabdul1066 no it wasn't.
Definitely way too much. It was probably too late to modify the video or couldn't be bothered starting again. But it was way too much. It should be a pea size and applied as a cross or multiple spread out dots
@@46645x if you like burnt cpus then yes
I’m going to do it on my 11 yrs old laptop
I don't know if my laptop even has a thermal paste
It gets 90 degrees Celsius even if I'm using paint 😂
Can someone please guide?
Open it up and replace thermal paste bcz i had the same issue and it ran on 90+ degrees and it worked after replacing it😭
Sorry but your teaching people how to fray there laptops only this way dont creat a video with out adding the basic roles like 1 close laptop 2 remove battery 3 better wait 20min atleast to make sure no electricity is stored in the motherboard 4 make sure the paste you are using dosnt conduct electricity as much as possible (for beginners) which is safer and better also .good luck all
that was waaaaay too much thermal paste
Solid video, thank you. I have the same laptop and will be picking up some Kryonaut as a replacement TIM.
And for all those that are saying "too much" check out the link. Happy viewing.
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I do it tomorrow😂
you put to much man
yes, he did put way too much
horrible application...too much
i like your face
Cursai you’re so nice