JCH Its Agfa Aviphot Pan 200. When it was first released Agfa was still making Aviphot Pan 400, and that is what was used. When it was discontinued, they switched to the 200iso film. Also, under tungsten light, its closer to 80iso. I shot two test rolls, one outdoors, and one indoors. Both rated at 400 and auto bracketed in my F6. The daylight one showed that at 200, it looks right, but indoors everything was hopelessly underexposed, even at 200. It also does not like low activity developers like Xtol. Its very difficult to get good results from this film in Xtol.
Thanks for this great work. Several times in different films you mention that actual speed is lower than box speed. I’m wondering how is the proccess to identify the actual speed of the film. I suppose that is they set speed box at 400 (that mean push the film), developing time is to push it to 400. Do you expose the film in different speeds and modify development times? Sorry for my ignorance 🙂. May be you can do a video explaining the process. I know that you already have a video explaining the use of densitometer, but the part of developing times I think was not included in that video. Again, thanks for your videos 🤩.
“Street Pan” is grotesquely overpriced for what it is, especially since it’s far slower than advertised box speed. Absolutely no reason to choose this over any other 400 speed film. You’ll get better results from FP4 at half the price!
"Street Pan" has always been something of a fraud when comparing promised versus actual performance. I've thought it to be about a ISO 160 film in the past, but looking at his comparison photos and density graph, I'd estimate that it would barely meet the density requirement of a 100 speed film. Also part of the extra brightness in the highlights has IMO more to do with the push processing required to extract a full tonal range. So if you are devoted to JCH Pan but want full tonal range, expose around 100 and reduce specified development times to reduce the slope of the development curve until it approximates a normal pan film. Or, shoot FP-4+.and save the extra work and cost for a lesser result.
@@randallstewart175 I find it difficult to understand why people are willing to pay twice what FP4 costs only to suffer inferior performance of a clearly misrepresented film.
Being made in Belgium this is pretty much bound to be Agfa. Some commentators believe it to be an Aviphot film, which I doubt. I have used Aviphot film and it has a much thinner base [!Addition: in 120 format]. More likely it is the traffic surveillance film ASP400 which was sold out cheaply some year ago as bulk ware. [!Correction: ASP400 was also running under the "Aviphot" label. So the Aviphot comments below are probably correct.] I have a couple of tins in my freezer and use it occasionally. Your test images line up well with what I get out of it at ISO 125 in Rodinal 1+49. The film has a fairly unique look, contrasty and very sharp when developed in an acutance developer. It also responds strongly to yellow and orange filtering. Worth a try, but surely not at JCH prices!
There are some miracle films on the market, sometimes overpriced, all of which are made from the Agfa Aviphot. If the film is made in Belgium, it is an Agfa Aviphot. If the film is cast on crystal-clear, tear-resistant PET carrier material - it is very likely to be an Agfa Aviphot. But, aerial film has its advantages over other films in cloudy weather or at long distances. No other film has this strong contrast. For these purposes, I prefer this aerial film. The cheapest variants are the Rollei Retro 80S and the Rollei Retro 400S.
Yes. Going back years many had conjectured and it was my conclusion likewise that it was the same as Rollei Retro 400S though JSH claims it isn't. I vaguely remember that it is coated with two different emulsions(large & small grain). But I would still bet the faster emulsion layer is the Retro 400S.
The last datasheet for Aviphot is (c) 2009 Agfa-Gevaert N.V., B2640 Mortsel-Belgium, so yes, it is likely that Aviphot is/was made in Belgium. On the other hand, if JCH explicitly stated this is not Aviphot, then that settles it for me, I have no reason not to believe him.
@@TrashTheLens I think JCH stated specifically that it was not Rollei Retro 400S, not that it wasn't Aviphot which is a line of emulsions which I think JCH Streetpan is made from several.
I have shot miles of this film. As you say, nowhere near 400. There was a rumor that this is Rollei Super Pan. In the right light with a 25a, rated at 200 this film looks amazing. For gp use, skip it.
Its Agfa Aviphot Pan 200. When it was first released it was Aviphot Pan 400 as it was still being made. The 400 is now discontinued and they switched to Aviphot pan 200 but left it rated at 400 iso.
It’s my resting b*tch face. My wife can attest to the authenticity of shooting all these films, she had to adjust my strobe light power for every single frame for 6 hours.
Oh, it’s 100% real! Took all day, had to have our family’s help with the kids so we devote all of our time and attention to this project. Also, that is his normal resting facial expression so it’s easily duplicated. Everyone who keeps asking for him to compare color film has no idea how long all this really took. 🤯 Though, I’m sure he will do it eventually.
One of my favorite channels. Awesome vids.
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Hi thanks for another good video. if you rate it at 125 what developer a development time do you use.
JCH Its Agfa Aviphot Pan 200.
When it was first released Agfa was still making Aviphot Pan 400, and that is what was used. When it was discontinued, they switched to the 200iso film.
Also, under tungsten light, its closer to 80iso. I shot two test rolls, one outdoors, and one indoors. Both rated at 400 and auto bracketed in my F6. The daylight one showed that at 200, it looks right, but indoors everything was hopelessly underexposed, even at 200.
It also does not like low activity developers like Xtol. Its very difficult to get good results from this film in Xtol.
Thanks for this great work.
Several times in different films you mention that actual speed is lower than box speed. I’m wondering how is the proccess to identify the actual speed of the film. I suppose that is they set speed box at 400 (that mean push the film), developing time is to push it to 400. Do you expose the film in different speeds and modify development times?
Sorry for my ignorance 🙂. May be you can do a video explaining the process. I know that you already have a video explaining the use of densitometer, but the part of developing times I think was not included in that video.
Again, thanks for your videos 🤩.
“Street Pan” is grotesquely overpriced for what it is, especially since it’s far slower than advertised box speed. Absolutely no reason to choose this over any other 400 speed film. You’ll get better results from FP4 at half the price!
"Street Pan" has always been something of a fraud when comparing promised versus actual performance. I've thought it to be about a ISO 160 film in the past, but looking at his comparison photos and density graph, I'd estimate that it would barely meet the density requirement of a 100 speed film. Also part of the extra brightness in the highlights has IMO more to do with the push processing required to extract a full tonal range. So if you are devoted to JCH Pan but want full tonal range, expose around 100 and reduce specified development times to reduce the slope of the development curve until it approximates a normal pan film. Or, shoot FP-4+.and save the extra work and cost for a lesser result.
@@randallstewart175 I find it difficult to understand why people are willing to pay twice what FP4 costs only to suffer inferior performance of a clearly misrepresented film.
Thanks for the review. I have a few 120 rolls of JCH, will try them based on you concclusions. Best!
Hm - made in Belgium . . only factory is AGFA . . . so it must be one of the AGFA Aviphot films.
Being made in Belgium this is pretty much bound to be Agfa. Some commentators believe it to be an Aviphot film, which I doubt. I have used Aviphot film and it has a much thinner base [!Addition: in 120 format]. More likely it is the traffic surveillance film ASP400 which was sold out cheaply some year ago as bulk ware. [!Correction: ASP400 was also running under the "Aviphot" label. So the Aviphot comments below are probably correct.] I have a couple of tins in my freezer and use it occasionally. Your test images line up well with what I get out of it at ISO 125 in Rodinal 1+49. The film has a fairly unique look, contrasty and very sharp when developed in an acutance developer. It also responds strongly to yellow and orange filtering. Worth a try, but surely not at JCH prices!
This film is also available in 120 format, it's also said to be near infrared sensitive at 750nm
Yep. I have a roll of 120 waiting to be used. Not cheap film for sure. Glad I saw this video before shooting it. I’ll shoot at 125 iso.
There are some miracle films on the market, sometimes overpriced, all of which are made from the Agfa Aviphot.
If the film is made in Belgium, it is an Agfa Aviphot.
If the film is cast on crystal-clear, tear-resistant PET carrier material - it is very likely to be an Agfa Aviphot.
But, aerial film has its advantages over other films in cloudy weather or at long distances. No other film has this strong contrast. For these purposes, I prefer this aerial film.
The cheapest variants are the Rollei Retro 80S and the Rollei Retro 400S.
Extended red, low B+F density... is this just another Aviphot re-brand then?
Is Aviphot made in Belgium?
Yes. Going back years many had conjectured and it was my conclusion likewise that it was the same as Rollei Retro 400S though JSH claims it isn't. I vaguely remember that it is coated with two different emulsions(large & small grain). But I would still bet the faster emulsion layer is the Retro 400S.
The last datasheet for Aviphot is (c) 2009 Agfa-Gevaert N.V., B2640 Mortsel-Belgium, so yes, it is likely that Aviphot is/was made in Belgium. On the other hand, if JCH explicitly stated this is not Aviphot, then that settles it for me, I have no reason not to believe him.
Aviphot is made in belgium, fastest aviphot is 200 iso.. so its probably that.
@@TrashTheLens I think JCH stated specifically that it was not Rollei Retro 400S, not that it wasn't Aviphot which is a line of emulsions which I think JCH Streetpan is made from several.
I have shot miles of this film. As you say, nowhere near 400. There was a rumor that this is Rollei Super Pan. In the right light with a 25a, rated at 200 this film looks amazing. For gp use, skip it.
Its Agfa Aviphot Pan 200. When it was first released it was Aviphot Pan 400 as it was still being made. The 400 is now discontinued and they switched to Aviphot pan 200 but left it rated at 400 iso.
I think this is a fake, because on every comparison you have the same face expression. That's impossible.
It’s my resting b*tch face. My wife can attest to the authenticity of shooting all these films, she had to adjust my strobe light power for every single frame for 6 hours.
Oh, it’s 100% real! Took all day, had to have our family’s help with the kids so we devote all of our time and attention to this project. Also, that is his normal resting facial expression so it’s easily duplicated. Everyone who keeps asking for him to compare color film has no idea how long all this really took. 🤯 Though, I’m sure he will do it eventually.