We Need to Talk About LIGHTFALL & Destiny 2… ft.Byf
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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Destiny 2 Lightfall, New Raid Boss, Final Shape, Neptune Secrets & Destiny 3
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In this episode we’ll be talking about all the latest updates in the run up to the lightfall expansion for Destiny 2. Bungie are adding Destiny 3 level changes to the narrative as the witness arrives with the darkness pyramids to face the traveler, leading to the final shape expansion. There are mysteries surrounding the lightfall raid boss, calus as an enemy, rasputin and eramis, when the final shape might release in 2024, the new strand subclass element, legendary campaign successes, veil leaks being revealed, secrets on neptunes neomuna, gambit and crucible complaints, changes to the power levelling system, Byf reaching 1 million youtube subscribers and much more! #Destiny2 #Lightfall #CreatorChat
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wtf why dont you uploadm more
As a new gamer, and new to destiny It feels like with the drop of lightfall bungie is pushing out newer players. I started destiny a month before the new expansion and loved it since it's dropped I spend hours dying over and over, and do not enjoy the game anymore. Is bungie turning destiny into a game for hardcore veteran players only?
Nicholas, I am a veteran player since Destiny 1 beta. The game is very build heavy atm and certain weapons are much better than others. There will be balancing but I was also dying over and over. I went and did something else each time, even after only 3 failed attempts or I grabbed a random teammate off of LFG. I’m sorry you’re having trouble, but my best advice is to constantly try something different. Even if it’s another quest line for a bit then come back to whatever is beating you down. The campaign on legendary is something else if you’re still focusing there. It’s tough. I beat it first on normal, then went back with some better gear and weapons. Hang in there, it gets easier.
rip commander zavala Falwell leader titan
SO GLAD THE PODCAST HAS ANOTHER EPISODE
Go through Unknown Players old videos if you wanna see the real history of Destiny irl. Real one for always covering the updates even from D1
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Too bad we can’t do that anymore cause UA-cam removed sort by oldest 😂
How about seeing that history in the effing game, Lol. Everyone who's played the game knows Bungie has very deep and entertaining lore abound. But when it comes to implementing narrative in the games the lore is virtually nonexistent. There's been some tidbits here and there but they've never taken destiny to the heights of the old Halo days fond days long gone.
@@terribletimes902 UA-cam is so smart
God I love Byf. The fact that Bungie hasn’t snagged him for the narrative team is beyond me.
Why would they
He seems like a great guy but being a good UA-camr doesn’t mean you’ll be a good writer.
@redgourd864 I disagree he has with just a little bit of help completely recreated the history of destiny. All you need is to see his videos that cover the history of destiny, plus the future tbh I think he would do well he can take a vague idea and make so much out of it!
If he was trans and any other race they would prob pick him up
@@evlastr1 what is your malfunction?
Best dreaming city secret was the dungeon. Sure now it is launchable on the map but back then you had to find it during the curse week iirc. Sure it was all over the internet once it had been found but if you were not looking for it, you would not find it unless you explored a lot.
I remember the first time taking control of the Arbiter in Halo 2. It was such a surprising treat! Imagine having temporary control of Caitl, complete with her own abilities and weapons, going after Calus in a specific mission. That or something similar would be so much fun!
Amazing idea, would love to see it. Unfortunately its pretty off brand for destiny.
I would love missions told through the eyes of some random epic human during the collapse or dark ages. No abilities, just guns and grenades. An ODST style story.
@@CrymsonNite Pretty telling Halo can't even give you that gameplay fantasy you then want to co-opt Destiny in your wishful pursuit of that fantasy.
I like the idea of adding optional "challenge" missions where you play through historical moments of other Guardians/characters in the universe. Being able to see stuff like Zavala's beginnings, or some of Cayde's legendary moments, or even like you said - a mission from Caitl's perspective. Imagine playing one of the current allies when they were still our enemies, and getting a neat little scripted moment where you see your own Guardian run by?
@@grayden4138 you must like to hear yourself speak. Halo gave him the experience with ODST, and in the world of destiny, they feel like that experience will fit well here in the amazing universe and lore deep world of destiny. No one is saying destiny is trash just because we cant play as anything else besides our guardian. That also doesnt mean someone is dumb for thinking of ways they can enjoy the game more.
Andrew your alive!!!!! Great to see you back this podcast is insane with you and the legendary lore daddy.
Enjoy!
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Crucible is probably my favorite part of destiny. We use to get so much content for it, we should at least be getting new maps for each major expansion. But I’d like a new map every other season. It needs more content. It’s very much still a great and important part of the game.
Still upset we don’t have a Europa PvP map…
WE will definetly get a Neptune city based map, and maybe even an arcade map as well.
*cries in gambit*
@@Muffin-wl7xs *cries in crucible (we didnt get any new maps)*
I would pay to have byf’s voice
I think after Final Shape we need new species from distant solar systems and new character races, I definitely want to visit Fundament before FS ends
Please make another one of these after the raid drops.
Will do
Loving these man, been running out of Destiny content to watch lately and this is a fresh change from the shorter stuff I’m used to.
I think Bungie stating that they would no longer vault campaigns leans towards a new game after Final Shape. That's a big claim to make in and of itself, but to continue adding campaigns "for years to come" just seems like a herculean task if they keep adding them to Destiny 2. A clean slate just seems like a more realistic option.
It would allow them to build an engine that takes into account DLSS, raytracing, optional downloads (their current engine makes this impossible), much more destruction than we got in Lightfall, physically based textures and lighting, etc..
I know most of us are really concerned about having to re-grind, but I think continuing to remove content in order to continue making new content is more detrimental to the franchise than a fresh start with a new grind. As of right now, the remaining void of the DCV makes this game almost impossible to recommend to a new or returning player with any marginal interest in the story.
I completely and entirely agree
Unknown, I’ve been watching your destiny video since vanilla Destiny 1! Thank you so much
We can't kill the witness... even every guardian and every ally bunched together would last mere seconds against him alone. He can literally just deatomise a guardian and a ghost with his mind. Numbers mean nothing.
His end won't be as a raid boss or as a campaign boss unless the campaign is all pieces in a puzzle and his death is in a cut scene at the end.
To have us beat him in combat would be a mockery of the story
I figure he should crumble pretty easy if we just do some raid mechanics at him.
But the Witness is, from our perspective, is a Mary/Gary Sue. Omnipotent, Omniscient, limitless power, can control our Ghost and harness it's ability as a conduit of the Light. Even Apex predators have a weakness, but just having him steamroll through the Sol System is just lazy writing. That's more of a mockery of the story than us, a single Guardian, being able to defeat Calus, post Witness-power-up, when it took 6 Guardians to defeat his robo-boss in the Raid. There comes a time when we have to admit the writing for Lightfall was a joke. Bungie's writers are not as clever as they pretend to be or as amazing as fanboys convince themselves they are.
@@grayden4138 hey hey hey bungie fanboys of their narrative team is because most dont realize the OG bungie squad got canned a while ago and we are not going to be getting any type of epic space opera....these fanboys are just living off hopium that the story will get better...no...it wont....lol. hell the damn campaign for lightfall felt like filler, like they just paused the cutscene and we did a whole side story with a complete training arc and all that, and then literally continues the cutscene from teh very beginning of the campaign as if nothing just happened...what the fuck was this campaign
I think Gambit should remove any sense of challenge from the PVE enemies, just turn it into 2 wrecking crews seeing who can speed run ~200 motes and insta melt a boss faster
I feel like it’d be more interesting if pve in gambit did a challenging amount of damage, but had like, hero nightfall levels of health, you can speedrun if you’re good, but still gotta be careful kinda deal ya know?
@@nathanflinchum1153 Hero sounds about right tbh, it would be more fun as an arcade-y romp than the edgy fight club sorta feel it has now
Tweak invaders/primeval healing mechanic. Its dumb and breaks the momentum by swinging victory for the other team with even one death. Cut the health restored to the Primeval from 25% to like 10-15%. Also, remove the invulnerability phases. So many Supers wasted. In conjunction with invader kills healing, its just resets the encounter. Just not fun. I like the idea of it having just a massive amount of health and it being a race to get motes. I honestly think you'd have to make regular enemies a bit harder to make that phase needing a bit more strategy.
Heard them talk a lot about "Engine" and I think what best describes an Engine is an interactive world with rules of physics. You have the 3d models and everything and then you put them in a world so it begins to "live"
The D1 legend is back
Watching this at work with 14 minutes left before I can go home and join my fellow Guardians on Neomuna. I’ve managed to avoid spoilers thus far. I can’t wait to experience the opening cutscene and the very fist mission, but most of all, I can’t wait to meet the cloud striders! It’s been a long time since we first got a deep look at Lightfall in August, and now it’s here! Won’t be long now. Per audacia ad astra!
This is the best kind of content to watch while I (im)patiently wait for tomorrow, these videos are fantastic
I don't know if this is true for anyone else, but I remember it being a fairly common point that the art shows the traveler high up above the earth but, in the game, it sat right over the last city. I don't know if this moment was the plan from the very beginning, but I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't started thinking about it very early on after release.
Foreboding voice from the future:
things did not go as planned in the story.
Byf's voice is magical.
...I will watch this at least twice this week alone ngl...
Good to see/hear you guys talk for a while again!
damn yall shoulda waited a few days after playing the campaign. I really hope another one comes out soon to go over the campaign. After Byf’s vid about it I really wanna hear you both talk about it
if the veil doesnt end up being Calus' shower curtain i'm gonna go whacko mode
So happy you brought this back!!! Please keep these going with Lightfall (and soon The Final Shape), love listening to these / watching these.
The traveler didnt go into space to fight. It knew if it stayed in the last city, it would be obliterated. Every single person and guardian would die. The traveler gave the guardians time to gain the strength to defeat the witness. It sacrificed itself for the city
been listening to these podcasts past few days, real damn good stuff unknown.
funnily enough i vividly recall loading into the same tower lobby as you in d1 many years ago.
"Upgrading the engine" always makes me laugh. When's the last time you thought "hmm my car is working quite right, I think I'll just upgrade the engine"
I truly believe the veil has something to do with multiversal traveling.
I miss you weekly videos so much. Hope lightfall gets you to drop stuff again.
The semi annual conversation is among us
I really don't like how this guy can be gone forever and come back and drop this on me and I have to immediate click on it and its a gem... we need more unknown player vids but good to see you again and hope all is well... until next time...
I’ve been waiting for another episode of this podcast 🙏🏼🙏🏼
wow i was looking back at this podcast last night wondering if they would ever do it again, this is great!
Every time I see Strand, I start thinking if they meant to hint at String Theory
Creator Chat is back! I’ve missed it.
Opf. The optimism here vs. the disappointment from Byf. Man that hits hard RN.
I'm glad there taking a extra day to make sure the games smooth, I really hope they Beef the servers up so that I don't have to wait till the next day to get in.
I could listen to you two talk about destiny all day
SPARROW RACING THROUGH NEOMOONA
Well this holds up. Post day 1 lightfall
After light and dark saga. New light experience needs to be redone to be an actual story
In regards to the Vow discussion, I feel like the preservation mission was an amazing way to add lore to a one-off raid boss and make Rhulk a more fleshed out character as opposed to just “ooh big bad guy showed up, gotta kill ‘em”
Good point, even though R. ended up like this plus lotsa chatter
You may not upload frequently, but I honestly really love your videos!
I think final shape will be when they finally drop last gen support
There was only supposed to be one Destiny with constant updates. Just like WOW
First creator chat in a year…. Hate the inconsistency
@byf, retroactively, you're welcome
Hot take: gambit is better as a mode without balancing. You're practically encouraged by Drifter to be disgusting. Definitely remove the barriers it has to power leveling, no argument there.
Two of my favorite original Destiny content creators, shout to MoreConsole too!!
We need 1 of these every season. Thanks for the content.
Lightfall Waiting Room's up bois, welcome, enjoy your stay \o/
Gambit is like WoW AV
Gambit would work really well in a Halo type sandbox, set starts for all characters loadouts and map pickups, its not built for the Destiny experience, but imo would be a really interesting mode in an arena shooter.
no one ever goes for the weapons that are spawned around maps. I barely use scorch cannons in missions catered to them, i for sure wont be picking them up in things like gambit lmfao that sort of playstyle doesnt work since guns have perks and what not, its literally pointless to pick up something like that when you have your crafted god roll.
@@xiphosmaniac you've completely misunderstood what I've said.
It looks like a fifth dimension power. (Any new trophies 🏆 challenge’s. )
I waited for over a year for another episode! I was losing hope! Thank you! Please keep these up
More to come!
Like to see the traveler let us know he has protected us and banished the dark now I’m headed to where ever he went but now you know the consequences of not cooperating.
The Witness and The Traveler are opposing sides of an equation. The sort of cold logic of the Witness is seen in other narrative forms of entropy. An end to pain, the hypocrisy of hope, life, etc. The Witness could never be reasoned with in the same way we could never convince The Traveler to stay or fight for us. It's operating under its cosmic mechanics and calculations. In this, I don't think The Traveler sensed Rasputin's sacrifice and stayed. I think it merely sensed it was under attack and was moving away from Earth and then sensed the Black Fleet. I think The Witness was right - It knew there was nowhere else to run.
who said they arent talking about lightfall, there's been news like every other day for 3 weeks
Bungie never messes up with raids talk didn’t age well
Lol, I was looking for this comment
Woah, I really love both these guys and the stuff they talk about within D2, I prefer a chilled out vibe so super happy when I see unknown still make content and plus it’s a banger 2hr vid. Good man 😂❤
Edit: more of this podcast pls !
Love the podcast with Byf! Lore Daddy!!
I've been playing Destiny since its original launch (with minor breaks here and there) with almost 900 hours on Steam and half that on Xbox and I still feel like an imposter in the Destiny community. However, I know that there are a lot of well informed and educated people in the community and having a teachable and learning mentality has been key for me in growing my channel despite being a variety streamer, and in making new friends.
32:51 I highly doubt with all the narrative changes, the changes within the narrative team, and the general direction of not knowing where exactly to take the story for many years has that cover art flashback been planned. That cover art dates pre story shift in 2013 and the cutscene was most likely just a fun throwback rather than a planned event.
The only 2 content creators that matter thank you for this boys have the best time in Lightfall. Great to see the legends back together!!
I would really like to see Bungie produce some smaller, purely singleplayer experiences that focus on some of the amazing characters we have seen through Destiny's life. Imagine playing as Eris Morn during her time trapped beneath the moon, or Osiris during his long stint in the Infinite Forest. They could even give us the chance to play as Cayde before he became Hunter Vanguard(they would probably make a ton of people happy if the experience spanned his whole life). They could even let us get to see parts of Destiny's from the perspective of these characters. I even like Byf's idea of getting to play through the Great Hunt. And I don't believe any of this would compete with the MMO, as long as they made them experiences that only lasted 15-30 hours(the Great Hunt story could perhaps go on for 10-20 hours more, since that has the potential for an RPGs style game).
Literally. Imagine being an awoken watching the space ship w Uldren and Mara being blown up and starting as a human then becoming awoken after the blast and seeing the dreaming city come about and you getting powers/ etc becoming these magical beings and fighting off the original ahamkaras and whatever else stands in their way. The awoken creation and story is fantastical.
@@Chadwicktyn Another great example.
Rather see all that as animated series done in the Castlevania art style.
@@grayden4138 They have states that they want to expand the Destiny Universe into other forms of media, so they could always do both.
some people are angry about the dlc but i played it ans its good and i love the lore its sad that not much people like lore
Drop a like on the video so the video gets more attention. Missed this podcast
Gambit died the day they phased out gambit prime
I could make the same argument about making the crucible just a powerful drop and that Bungie should just ignore it because it constantly messes with PVE balance, which clearly PVP is not a main focus of Bungie for years now.
Thank you for the podcast
Thanks for watching!
Missed listening to the podcast
It may have already been said, but the "darkness" is really all about control huh. I mean, look at the two subclasses. Both are strictly about ad control. I guess in this regard strand is more superior to stasis since the enemies aren't instantly set free after the first hit (after being frozen that is).
😢 rip commander zavala
THE LEGENDS HAVE RETURNED
A BLESSING FROM THE LORD!
Short answer: When you overhaul and engine you build the world from the ground up. New textures, new processing, and new code to run it all. Not easy, if anything they shouod just move to to the Unreal Engine since it's "easiest" to do. Which to me sucks because I wanted to see the FOX engine be updated only Konami buried that dream.
Bro you need to make more of theses c'mon
byf sounds like batman
after having watched multiple "unknown player" videos, it makes me wonder if this dude has ever played the game. I havent played for like 3 months and i know whats going on just from happenstance.
Gambit would be better if it was 4 teams of 3 and you have to earn the ability to invade (through some means) when you do, more than one of you can invade. You have the choice of three coloured portals. All three of you can go through the same portal or one of you in each of the three apposing teams portals. Also you can only do this ONCE per match, per team. So you have to chose wisely how many invade and who to invade. If you fail an enemy invasion. Maybe a possible nerf to outgoing damage for 2 minutes or something. Just a few ideas there.
To byf: NERRRRRRRRRD
Long time UP! Great collab.
I've been addicted to the game since HoW D1, playing just about daily. This is the first year since I started playing that I've not bought the Deluxe/Annual Pass version of the new DLC - I've not much interest in the game anymore other than playing the campaign drops now (which I am still at least looking forward to for Lightfall) to just close out the story. The game has great gunplay, which is often the pillar argument to support it, but I've just disliked so many aspects of it and Bungie for some time now and this season was the point I started to detach. I won't play much past season 20 but will be watching the lore videos from the likes of Myelin, UP, Evade and Byf, and possibly some Aztecross sprinkled in.
bro i think destiny devs watch your videos and are like "hmm thats good write that down write that down"
This is catastrophically badass 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖
Bring back glass needles!
Destiny 3 would in my ideal scenario be mostly a marketing move
The base code could be essentially nearly identical but it would give Bungie agency to leave last gen consoles behind and update their games to implement more features only possible on current gen consoles and also to better optimize their games for PS5 & XBOX Series X/S
if they do this and break compatibility with PS4 & XBOX One but DONT change the name of the game it will be a terrible PR and marketing move. it will leave many gamers more angry and confused than they would be otherwise.
Bungie will have to inevitably break compatibly with PS4 & XBOX One. They can’t really do it before the Final Shape expansion without a ton of backlash but afterwards they have the perfect opportunity to do so and it be a clean transition, changing the name to Destiny 3 would help that.
So I always like your insights and as I know you are an OG D1 guy, its a viewpoint with the weight of all that history. but my guy....2hours? Could you release like a highlights version, maybe around 20-30min?
Oh my God I thought this show was dead!
1:14:40 yeah that's why I don't play destiny pvp rather play csgo and valorant because it's actually competitive
Ill be honest, Rasputin got Worfed
at this point with alot of whats talked about early, i want destiny to be my WoW i want to lose myself in a game with a game that has this ongoing world
Bungie could never do what Epic did. Completely implement a new engine with no significant bugs. 🤷🏾♂️ $3.6 billion btw.
Yeahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
As a 6v6 multiplayer guy, I strongly disagree with you, the devs and pretty much everyone. I buy games to still play that 6v6 PvP
I am here to simp for Lore Daddy.
First hell yea. Love the content
Not so much a spoiler since I’m the trailer for lightfall but as we see holiday in a space battle and is either blown up by pyramid ship or is floating out in space if she is gone my question is why we have no back story on the holiday family except in bits and peices from weapons and old lore but not a lot on the holiday family and the Tex mechanica foundation but yet the dungeon of spite of the watcher all loot is Tex mechanica but no lore on the family I understand they had to give story plot points towards the upcoming content I’m just sad that a big name in destiny just got swept under the carpet without being fleshed out properly and it’s not like holiday’s death might not be as significant as it should be since we don’t have backstory or ongoing dialogue with her as we had with cause or any of the other vanguard
Honestly how are you gonna top a 7-8 year story arc that drug you along and gave you so many different emotions made you question yourself in different ways with choices and how you play