10 essentials is always good. extra tras bag uses as rain gear and pack liners. various ways to light a fire. swaying warm at night with simple blankets. why to have a tarp! summer tents use in winter or how to modify a tent to 4 season. good dry clothes for inside the tent! why and what to carry as one additional days emergency ration.
I was reading an original manual and the camping badge required 50 nights of camping. It’s interesting how radically some things are different from back then. It's so much easier in some ways. Of course, the agriculture badge (which doesn't exist now) required growing an acre of corn. Things change over time, like the accessibility of an acre for farming corn might be easier to access 115 years ago. No word on if each boy had to grow an acre, or if it could be the troop together, or how much adult assistance was acceptable. I guess it would be harder to get boys and the adults to camp total of 50 nights in the modern world.
each troop operates slightly different, the requirements stay the same. Two of my troops were backpacks camping every month. another troop was mixed outings some indoors for family gym camping. my last troop camped as often as we could..
@@SespeScouter Ooh...just found a SLIGHT wrinkle: blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/03/13/interpreting-under-the-auspices-in-national-outdoor-awards-requirements/ So, you could earn the National Outdoor Achievement Award - Camping Segment with 5 fewer nights of camping AS A SCOUT because, even though you have to do 20 nights for the Camping Merit badge (required), the remaining 5 nights COULD come from your time as a CUB SCOUT! I'm guessing this PROBABLY comes into play very little as scouts that motivated usually have more nights as well, though I guess they could get their segment a little earlier
if memory serves, I had just over 200 nights under canvas by the time I turned 18. Favorite scout camp? Philmont. Non scout? Rocky mountain national Park
Great info! You mentioned that Scouts can use 5 nights from summer camp to fulfill the OA camping requirement. Just to clarify, this isn't an option. 5 nights of camping must be from a long-term camp and the rest must be short-term campouts.
The First Class requirement says "[of] the outdoor ACTIVITIES, at least three must include overnight camping" (emphasis added). The requirement refers to ACTIVITIES, not nights. This distinction is important. A troop three day/two night weekend campout counts as ONE ACTIVITY, even though the camping was for two nights. A Scout could end up camping for six nights before satisfying the requirement for THREE ACTIVITIES that include overnight camping (e.g., three two-night weekend campouts). In my troop, this is the most common way that Scouts meet that requirement, since we almost always do three-day/two-night weekend campouts, when we go camping (except for resident camp). As you say, though, a Scout could satisfy the requirement with as few as three camping nights (e.g., one night of camping at three different campouts).
3:12 The National Outdoor Award for Camping requirement does not refer to "summer camp". Instead it says "BSA accredited resident camp". This is an important difference for at least two reasons. First, some individual troops roll their own "summer camp" that is not a "BSA accredited resident camp". Nights at those types of "summer camps", technically, would not count towards the "BSA accredited resident camp" requirement, although they would probably apply to the 25 total nights of camping required (as long as the camp was conducted by the troop and, therefore, "under the auspices of the BSA"). Second, some councils offer a "winter resident camp" which could qualify if it was long enough (see the next point below). By the way, the 2020 version of the BSA National Camp Standards changed the term "resident camp" to "long-term camp" throughout the document. The definition of "long-term camp" now includes (among other things) "high-adventure or trekking programs", which previously were not included in the old definition of "resident camp". I interpret that to mean that high-adventure treks or adventure programs at Philmont, Northern Tier, Summit, and other national or council high-adventure bases would qualify as "BSA accredited long-term camps" as they are required to meet the standards and be accredited. I would not be surprised if the National Outdoor Award for Camping was updated this year or next to match that change in terminology and therefore read "BSA accredited long-term camp" instead of "BSA accredited resident camp". But that's just a guess at this point. 3:19 The "BSA accredited resident camp" requirement is not for six nights, but rather for six days (five nights). www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/noa/
Awesome video clarifying all these requirements. Will virtual council summer camp programs count for the national outdoor activity award for camping as well? Also, for further devices for additional nights of camping, is there a limit to how many long term, 5-6 night summer camp type trips you can use?
Scout leaders can be elected. There is usually a rational of Scouts elected to leaders available. Adults should be elected on their ability to serve the Order, not just for recognition.
How many nights have you camped? Where is your favorite camp? What topic should I cover in my next video?
10 essentials is always good. extra tras bag uses as rain gear and pack liners. various ways to light a fire. swaying warm at night with simple blankets. why to have a tarp! summer tents use in winter or how to modify a tent to 4 season. good dry clothes for inside the tent! why and what to carry as one additional days emergency ration.
I was reading an original manual and the camping badge required 50 nights of camping. It’s interesting how radically some things are different from back then. It's so much easier in some ways. Of course, the agriculture badge (which doesn't exist now) required growing an acre of corn. Things change over time, like the accessibility of an acre for farming corn might be easier to access 115 years ago. No word on if each boy had to grow an acre, or if it could be the troop together, or how much adult assistance was acceptable. I guess it would be harder to get boys and the adults to camp total of 50 nights in the modern world.
each troop operates slightly different, the requirements stay the same. Two of my troops were backpacks camping every month. another troop was mixed outings some indoors for family gym camping. my last troop camped as often as we could..
Thanks for the shoutout and an AWESOME, concise summary!!!
Thanks again for the suggestion.
@@SespeScouter
Ooh...just found a SLIGHT wrinkle:
blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/03/13/interpreting-under-the-auspices-in-national-outdoor-awards-requirements/
So, you could earn the National Outdoor Achievement Award - Camping Segment with 5 fewer nights of camping AS A SCOUT because, even though you have to do 20 nights for the Camping Merit badge (required), the remaining 5 nights COULD come from your time as a CUB SCOUT!
I'm guessing this PROBABLY comes into play very little as scouts that motivated usually have more nights as well, though I guess they could get their segment a little earlier
@@stephenhenley7452 good find. "Under the auspices" comes up here and there, but always good information to be able to fall back on.
if memory serves, I had just over 200 nights under canvas by the time I turned 18. Favorite scout camp? Philmont. Non scout? Rocky mountain national Park
Great info! You mentioned that Scouts can use 5 nights from summer camp to fulfill the OA camping requirement. Just to clarify, this isn't an option. 5 nights of camping must be from a long-term camp and the rest must be short-term campouts.
Good point. I guess I was focusing on the fact that the requirement says may only use 5 nights. Thanks for contributing!
The First Class requirement says "[of] the outdoor ACTIVITIES, at least three must include overnight camping" (emphasis added).
The requirement refers to ACTIVITIES, not nights.
This distinction is important. A troop three day/two night weekend campout counts as ONE ACTIVITY, even though the camping was for two nights.
A Scout could end up camping for six nights before satisfying the requirement for THREE ACTIVITIES that include overnight camping (e.g., three two-night weekend campouts). In my troop, this is the most common way that Scouts meet that requirement, since we almost always do three-day/two-night weekend campouts, when we go camping (except for resident camp).
As you say, though, a Scout could satisfy the requirement with as few as three camping nights (e.g., one night of camping at three different campouts).
Exactly. I don't know many troops who do single night campouts, but I was pointing out the absolute minimum needed.
Nice post and information , wish you all the best , we're scouts from indonesia
Greetings! Are there camping requirements for Scouts from Indonesia? How many nights out?
@@SespeScouter , for a jamboree it takes 10 days, while such " summer camp " it takes 5 days long
3:12 The National Outdoor Award for Camping requirement does not refer to "summer camp". Instead it says "BSA accredited resident camp".
This is an important difference for at least two reasons.
First, some individual troops roll their own "summer camp" that is not a "BSA accredited resident camp". Nights at those types of "summer camps", technically, would not count towards the "BSA accredited resident camp" requirement, although they would probably apply to the 25 total nights of camping required (as long as the camp was conducted by the troop and, therefore, "under the auspices of the BSA").
Second, some councils offer a "winter resident camp" which could qualify if it was long enough (see the next point below).
By the way, the 2020 version of the BSA National Camp Standards changed the term "resident camp" to "long-term camp" throughout the document. The definition of "long-term camp" now includes (among other things) "high-adventure or trekking programs", which previously were not included in the old definition of "resident camp". I interpret that to mean that high-adventure treks or adventure programs at Philmont, Northern Tier, Summit, and other national or council high-adventure bases would qualify as "BSA accredited long-term camps" as they are required to meet the standards and be accredited. I would not be surprised if the National Outdoor Award for Camping was updated this year or next to match that change in terminology and therefore read "BSA accredited long-term camp" instead of "BSA accredited resident camp".
But that's just a guess at this point.
3:19 The "BSA accredited resident camp" requirement is not for six nights, but rather for six days (five nights).
www.scouting.org/programs/scouts-bsa/advancement-and-awards/noa/
Thanks for the info. The video was meant to give more of a "mile high" view of the requirements, but always good to have the details.
Awesome video clarifying all these requirements. Will virtual council summer camp programs count for the national outdoor activity award for camping as well? Also, for further devices for additional nights of camping, is there a limit to how many long term, 5-6 night summer camp type trips you can use?
Can scout leaders join the order of the arrow?
Scout leaders can be elected. There is usually a rational of Scouts elected to leaders available. Adults should be elected on their ability to serve the Order, not just for recognition.