It honestly REALLY depends on how the "tragic backstory" is executed. Sometimes, they can make the character even MORE annoying... Looking at you, STARLIGHT GLIMMER...
That's funny because I was literally just rewatching the cutie re-mark episodes earlier- Yeah true, it is a little annoying because she definitely didn't have the right to impose what happened to her onto an entire village and try and force the Mane 6 into it. And the way she just didn't let up on stopping the Rainboom was also pretty annoying, like girl at this point, there is no sympathy for you, who even cares about the backstory? But I love her as a non-villain 😊
Honestly you're so real for that!! I literally do not care if they have a tragic backstory, I'm still going to dislike them lol. Come back to me when they get a redemption arc and fix all of the things that made me hate them in the first place. 🗿
Genuine question here: Did anyone _hate_ Vee before we met her properly? All I saw was people being spooked and stuff, hence why before we found out her name, she was known as "Creepy Luz".
“Chuuya needs to get better at controlling his emotions” mfs when they read stormbringer where he literally controls his every emotion and holds back his scream after seeing his best friends’ mutilated corpses
Was a weird plot hole that the writing went from Snow saying, "She poisoned me because she thought I was prettier than her!" to "I wasn't aware that I accidentally got someone you loved kill, and I'm sorry for that." Plenty of other weird plot holes, in OUAT, but that's the large one I tend to wave away because that twist adds a neat storytelling layer to Regina.
_God,_ I remember OUAT, please don't suck me back into that fandom. 😂. I just remember the _biggest_ issue for me was Rumplestiltskin and his _Heel-Face Revolving Door._ Like, the guy just would _not_ pick a side!! 😂.
Honestly, this was me with Stolas. At the beginning he was just some over sexual owl cheating on his wife at the expense of his daughter. And then I found out he was a repressed gay man in an emotionally abusive marriage, and constantly biting his tongue to try and protect his daughter.
Seeing how much of a disaster Blitzø is hits home, in a few ways. I just wanna give the guy hugs, even though he'd probably be annoyed real quick at even the suggestion.
Depends on the tragic backstory (how well it was written and if it was impactful) and the amount of bad things they did, if it was too much damage they did.... The backstory honestly is probably going to make me more angry. I don't care about the characters tragedy, if they already became a monster that did irreparable damage. Like go cry in the corner, you monster. 😅
Tsch 😏 Backstory is like paint with the house itself being like worth of a person You can paint a brutalist monstrosity baby blue, and it would be interesting to look at but i still wouldn't want to live in it
Tbh it depends. It can go from "I want to apologize from the bottom of my heart :'(" To "I want to apologize for nothing, if i catch this mf am going to do what the lore didn't"
I would like to suggest that you can sympathize with a character without having to ACTUALLY like them lmao. Although yeah, most of the time the Tragic Backstory ™️ wins me over 😅
One Piece is just one of the few good examples of tragic backstories done right… by using foreshadowing Oda really nails that emotional bond between reader and his characters… I mean I thought I was going to hate Sanji but I fell in love with his character… 😂
Quite literally this is me warning a friend who was anime only watch compared to me who read the manga. They absolutely hated this one character and I’m like ‘you’re going to regret it.’
Me with Otto suwen when I watched RE:Zero s1 before watching s2. Idk why I held a grudge against him from the greed whale until his backstory dropped in S2 😭
For me it makes me appreciate the character for having depth, and it makes my feelings on the character really complicated. I kind of want to give them comfort, but at the same time I want them to get comeuppance for their crap
Bro literally me with Jiang Cheng, at the beginning I was really annoyed with him cuz he was just super rude and stuff, but once i learned about it his parents then I felt bad for him
going through this rn except i still don’t like him but i feel kinda bad about it bc his backstory is actually pretty sad and genuinely explains his actions……… but i still think he’s annoying and gaslighting the girl he likes soo 🤷♀️
I'm willing to make a bet and say that this isn't going to apply to my feelings towards Jax. He probably has SOME tragic backstory, and don't get me wrong, I have full faith in Gooseworx and GLITCH to pull it off well! (As opposed to, say, the infamous "oh look this character who had literally zero redeeming qualities was actually a sad wittle puppy dog all along, don't you love them now?") The Amazing Digital Circus IS a character-focused show, after all. But I really doubt it'll have much of an effect on how I feel about him... Once his backstory and why he is the way he is is revealed, remind me to come back here and see if I ended up being right or not.
My partner and one of our current roommies are trying to get me to finish Cowboy Bebop. I have a strong dislike for Fay(?), but they've dropped the hint that she has her reasons for doing the things that I dislike her for. Gonna be an interesting time, whenever we finally get around to that point in the show.
@@trynottohappen i THINK that her parents left her and Emily in Pelican Town, but take alot of salt with that one because i could be misremembering or that might be from a mod.
@@BudgieCuteOhhh yeah, that did happen. Though it seems like they didn't do it hatefully, as shown by a note they left in Emily's house, so I guess I just never thought of Haley's story as "tragic." I mean, I'm sure not seeing them much does hurt, but I would definitely consider Shane, Penny and Alex to be a lot more *tragic,* if that makes sense
*This is me with Chase from the Total Drama reboot, dude is a total narcissist and he doesn’t even have a tragic backstory (He’s even worse than Julia in my opinion because it is at least implied that she has parental issues due to the fact that she mentioned she only communicates with them via lawyers). God I would do unspeakable things to that boy.* 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Max Jägerman from NPMD Like I thought I hated him and he was horrible until he said the "so dad can call you a little cuck" line and then proceed to say the nicest thing anyone had done for him is a PRANK...
My current second fave character, I DESPISED HIM,I hated him so much that I laughed when I killed him in game, but then I actually saw his support scenes and now I hate him (affectionate) (sylvain from fire emblem three houses)
OH MY GOD ITS WYLANNNNNN (I love him so much but no one lets me forget that my first impression of him was "winy bitch" because first chapter first impressions)
Actually, it's a huge pet peeve of mine. When people suddenly like a character because of their tragic backstory. Nah man, trauma doesn't excuse bad behaviour. Everyone in the world goes through something. Don't use it to justify bs. You can understand a character better because of their tragedy, but if a person starts calling them something like "my soft lil baby" because of it, that's so weird. Why are you into their trauma???
I tend to develop a soft spot for tragic villains, but I understand your perspective. I mostly end up enjoying the characters more because I can understand how they got to that point, and it makes them feel more real. I personally think liking villains after you learn how tragic they are is fine, as long as you can accept that their trauma doesn't excuse their actions.
That's valid! Though the backstory may make them more understandable, and adds depth to the character, it still doesn't excuse their actions! My feelings on the character usually end of changing because of the backstory reveal, but that's mostly because I am very soft on fictional characters, especially when they are complex
@abanana_5527 Same, BASED COMMENT. Like, I _love_ my girl Catra from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, and I am a _Catra stan,_ but...Ya'll, _this girl committed SEVERAL WAR CRIMES, JUST TO SPITE HER EX-"BEST FRIEND"._ Also, I _hated_ her in Season 3. >:(.
@@hannahmetzger4880 My sister used to like Catra, but eventually decided she didn't like her anymore because of how cruel she was. I only partially watched SheRa, so I don't know everything about the situation, but my sister described Catra as ab_sive. From what I've seen that sounds kind of accurate.
Almost the ENTIRE Genshin fandom when Furina's lore dropped:
I also immediately thought of that xD
pretty much, yeah
Also Aventurine with the HSR fandom (not me though I loved them both. I just them more now)
i never understood all the hate for her!! glad everyone sees how amazing of a character she is now
@@goldenheart__ Think it was because she always seemed obnoxious, always saying things rather than actually doing them
There are times when you feel bad for them and there are times when it's like "I get you, but i still hate you"
It honestly REALLY depends on how the "tragic backstory" is executed. Sometimes, they can make the character even MORE annoying...
Looking at you, STARLIGHT GLIMMER...
For real though with her omg
That's funny because I was literally just rewatching the cutie re-mark episodes earlier-
Yeah true, it is a little annoying because she definitely didn't have the right to impose what happened to her onto an entire village and try and force the Mane 6 into it. And the way she just didn't let up on stopping the Rainboom was also pretty annoying, like girl at this point, there is no sympathy for you, who even cares about the backstory? But I love her as a non-villain 😊
Her redemption didn't make her sympathetic...but her as a redeemed character is just too fucking hilarious to make me hate her lol
Honestly as a starlight glimmer fan, I will say that although I do love her, her redemption was kinda shit
Girl goes from "Aw man I can't hang out with my best friend anymore" to "I'm going to establish communism"
90% of the Helluva Boss fandom with Fizzarolli after OOPS came out
And then he became the fandom darling on top of it!
FRR 😂
Now he's the fandom sweetheart and I wouldn't have it any other way
Also with Versosika too
I didn’t know that people didn’t get that she was more that just "an angry bitchy ex"
I love Verosika you're SO right!
Sometimes you start to feel bad for them, others times it’s just sucks to suck
me with Lilith Clawthorne from TOH 😭
Bro same 😭
REAL
Girl same XD
alternatively: hating a character and being glad that they have a tragic backstory because thats how frustrated they make you :’)
Me with Scaramouche/Wanderer
frr
I love disliking characters even after it's revealed they have a Tragic backstory smh
Like I really couldn’t care less tbh I’ve already made up my mind about them 😭
Honestly you're so real for that!! I literally do not care if they have a tragic backstory, I'm still going to dislike them lol. Come back to me when they get a redemption arc and fix all of the things that made me hate them in the first place. 🗿
@@negligible_reality THIS!!!!!!!!
Unless they're really annoying, then it'sjust like, "Cry me a river!!"
Danny motta after ranpo's backstory:
I fcking love this comment lmao.
The entire TOH fandom with Vee when Yesterday's Lie came out
The biggest switch up I've ever done on a character
Genuine question here: Did anyone _hate_ Vee before we met her properly? All I saw was people being spooked and stuff, hence why before we found out her name, she was known as "Creepy Luz".
@@catbatrat1760 I was more intrigued as to where it could go and what kind of character the cast will deal with
When the villain becomes your favorite character
Off-Topic, but your dog is ADORABLE 😍
I know, right?
The Aventurine experience for some
Me with Aventurine pre-2.1 update T-T I've seen the errors of my ways...
Unless the character in question is Cinder from RWBY, who continues to earn zero sympathy from anyone
REAL she annoyed me even more after that episode.lmao
The dl6 incident dose it for me 😵💫
“Chuuya needs to get better at controlling his emotions” mfs when they read stormbringer where he literally controls his every emotion and holds back his scream after seeing his best friends’ mutilated corpses
Remembers “Once upon a time “
Was a weird plot hole that the writing went from Snow saying, "She poisoned me because she thought I was prettier than her!" to "I wasn't aware that I accidentally got someone you loved kill, and I'm sorry for that."
Plenty of other weird plot holes, in OUAT, but that's the large one I tend to wave away because that twist adds a neat storytelling layer to Regina.
_God,_ I remember OUAT, please don't suck me back into that fandom. 😂. I just remember the _biggest_ issue for me was Rumplestiltskin and his _Heel-Face Revolving Door._ Like, the guy just would _not_ pick a side!! 😂.
The entire Genshin fandom after Furina’s story was revealed:
💀 People who hate Blitzø:
Honestly, this was me with Stolas. At the beginning he was just some over sexual owl cheating on his wife at the expense of his daughter. And then I found out he was a repressed gay man in an emotionally abusive marriage, and constantly biting his tongue to try and protect his daughter.
Seeing how much of a disaster Blitzø is hits home, in a few ways. I just wanna give the guy hugs, even though he'd probably be annoyed real quick at even the suggestion.
Blitzø apologist till the day I die I wanna give this weird little man a hug
I'm like this with Blitz _and_ Stolas. 😂🥲😭.
I DID THAT RECENTLY i hated fischl because i thought she was so full of herself but i’ve come to find out i’m now a fischl kinnie-
Madoka Magica fans with Homura, Kyoko, Madoka
I kind of feel like this is when hajime learned about nagitos final fte /ref
Me with Aventurine from honkai star rail
This was me with Adventurine 😭
He is now probably one of my favorite characters in HSR
Me with the golden guard from The Owl House
The Grand Theft Auto V dialogue and weapon wheel sound effect is just golden.
Thats how I met my favorite character. (in addition to hearing them voice acted and being taken out)
Being in the YTTD fandom be like-
This is very blitz coded
Depends on the tragic backstory (how well it was written and if it was impactful) and the amount of bad things they did, if it was too much damage they did.... The backstory honestly is probably going to make me more angry. I don't care about the characters tragedy, if they already became a monster that did irreparable damage. Like go cry in the corner, you monster. 😅
Vaderkin...
That's me with Scaramouche
Now he's the character I write the most (he's such an angst magnet ngl)
Tsch 😏
Backstory is like paint with the house itself being like worth of a person
You can paint a brutalist monstrosity baby blue, and it would be interesting to look at but i still wouldn't want to live in it
Yo, THAT is a good way of putting it!
MY EXACT REACTION TO RIDDLE FROM TWST 😭
the poor thing 🥺🥺
Alternative ending: "I'm going to reap you apart... More than what life has already done to you"
Tbh it depends.
It can go from
"I want to apologize from the bottom of my heart :'("
To
"I want to apologize for nothing, if i catch this mf am going to do what the lore didn't"
Me with Aventurine except i was (ironically) asking for it in hopes that i don't simp for him for his aesthetics:
I would like to suggest that you can sympathize with a character without having to ACTUALLY like them lmao. Although yeah, most of the time the Tragic Backstory ™️ wins me over 😅
Same
Same. I mean, Zuko from ATLA was a _shit_ character at the beginning of the series proper, and we all learned to love _him._ 😂.
All of my friends with hunter from the owl house
One Piece is just one of the few good examples of tragic backstories done right… by using foreshadowing Oda really nails that emotional bond between reader and his characters…
I mean I thought I was going to hate Sanji but I fell in love with his character… 😂
This is right after you vent to your friends about them too😭
Sasha waybright from amphibia hunter from toh catra from she ra Hugo scarlemagne oak from Kipo
With the dog there it makes me think Arven
that is so real like I want to hate them but I love them because they're like me fr
Handsome Jack from Borderlands! Hated him in 2, but I _agreed_ with him in Pre-Sequel!
And they’re always like, and everyone called me annoying :( and you just feel so guilty!!
There are so many characters that this can aplly to but I'll simply name one from my most recent obsession...Jiang Cheng in a nutshell
That one character from The Apothecary Diaries.
If you know, you know.
I've never read/listened, but I'm guessing that it's a character by the name of Lakan? :P. Did I guess it right? :P.
I can’t overstate how much this was Me with revali
Quite literally this is me warning a friend who was anime only watch compared to me who read the manga. They absolutely hated this one character and I’m like ‘you’re going to regret it.’
Which manga/anime, if you don't mind me asking?
I would also like to know, cause I can think of plenty that are like that 😂
which manga
Which manga/anime? We need _deets, please!! :3._
i was thinking that's what would happen to me with Dabi's backstory but oh boy did it only get WORSE
Lakan from apothecary diaries
OMG yes he really had a 180 from asshole to actually fully developed and complex character with a moral code and a genuine love for his daughter
This is too real 💀
octavian from “Percy Jackson: Heroes of Olympus”
Allura from Voltron legendary defender
Me with Otto suwen when I watched RE:Zero s1 before watching s2. Idk why I held a grudge against him from the greed whale until his backstory dropped in S2 😭
Nah, no, I’m gonna keep hating. Tragic backstory doesn’t mean crap. Why should I feel bad for a character who’s an ass because they had it hard?
You're so real for that tbh
For me it makes me appreciate the character for having depth, and it makes my feelings on the character really complicated.
I kind of want to give them comfort, but at the same time I want them to get comeuppance for their crap
Your perspective is definitely valid, I'm just sharing my own from experience
Me w/ Sparkle (hsr) except the sad backstory was literally just her character trailer
me going from "i dislike you so much" about a character in season 1 to "oh my god this is one of my favorite characters of all time" after season 2
Me with Legato when I was watching 98 Trigun then reading Trimax. I still think he's a creepy menace but DAMN HIS BACKSTORY WAS SICKENING-
No because that was literally me with Aventurine...
Me with Sanemi, Obanai, and hell, Dazai too
Probably underrated here, but Shen Jiu AKA OG Shen Qingqiu from Scumbag Villain Self-Saving System
Bro literally me with Jiang Cheng, at the beginning I was really annoyed with him cuz he was just super rude and stuff, but once i learned about it his parents then I felt bad for him
Me with Cressida Cowper this season 😅 I’m not gonna apologize for how I felt before, but I do feel much more sympathy towards her
YOU FIND OUT WHY THEY ACT THAT WAY IT MAKES ME SAD BUT ALSOWBWKSKSJS
twisted wonderland fans after every single book, basically
Me with scar from wuthering Waves rn, knowing this will happen once his backstory drops
I still do it doesn't matter that I always liked him
This was literally me with Hunter from TOH, I disliked cause I thought he was overrated….
me before and after i saw those alastor angst fics 😭
Literally Snape
going through this rn except i still don’t like him but i feel kinda bad about it bc his backstory is actually pretty sad and genuinely explains his actions……… but i still think he’s annoying and gaslighting the girl he likes soo 🤷♀️
Me when Alex from Stardew Valley
I'm willing to make a bet and say that this isn't going to apply to my feelings towards Jax. He probably has SOME tragic backstory, and don't get me wrong, I have full faith in Gooseworx and GLITCH to pull it off well! (As opposed to, say, the infamous "oh look this character who had literally zero redeeming qualities was actually a sad wittle puppy dog all along, don't you love them now?") The Amazing Digital Circus IS a character-focused show, after all. But I really doubt it'll have much of an effect on how I feel about him...
Once his backstory and why he is the way he is is revealed, remind me to come back here and see if I ended up being right or not.
My partner and one of our current roommies are trying to get me to finish Cowboy Bebop.
I have a strong dislike for Fay(?), but they've dropped the hint that she has her reasons for doing the things that I dislike her for. Gonna be an interesting time, whenever we finally get around to that point in the show.
Basically most twst characters
What's TWST?
@@hannahmetzger4880 Twisted Wonderland
I wish I could say this applies to Otto Apocalypse
but we all still hate him
Stardew Valley fans with Shane, Penny, Haley, and Alex (their words not mine)
Wait Haley has a tragic backstory?
@@trynottohappen i THINK that her parents left her and Emily in Pelican Town, but take alot of salt with that one because i could be misremembering or that might be from a mod.
@@BudgieCuteOhhh yeah, that did happen. Though it seems like they didn't do it hatefully, as shown by a note they left in Emily's house, so I guess I just never thought of Haley's story as "tragic." I mean, I'm sure not seeing them much does hurt, but I would definitely consider Shane, Penny and Alex to be a lot more *tragic,* if that makes sense
*This is me with Chase from the Total Drama reboot, dude is a total narcissist and he doesn’t even have a tragic backstory (He’s even worse than Julia in my opinion because it is at least implied that she has parental issues due to the fact that she mentioned she only communicates with them via lawyers). God I would do unspeakable things to that boy.* 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Max Jägerman from NPMD
Like I thought I hated him and he was horrible until he said the "so dad can call you a little cuck" line and then proceed to say the nicest thing anyone had done for him is a PRANK...
Half of the fandom for Kaiser from blue lock 🤣
Me with Kel from Omori 😭 I love him now I'm sorry it's just I found him so annoying in the game specially in the dream world!
Me with Skarra from the very underrated niche kids show, Supa Strikas-
Four bfb 😔💔💔 turns out he's just me-
Me: Hates character bc they're annoying
* Finds out their traumatic backstory
Also me: hates them even more just to be petty
Seto Kaiba...
I have that so often-
Michael Kaiser from Blue Lock 😭
My current second fave character, I DESPISED HIM,I hated him so much that I laughed when I killed him in game, but then I actually saw his support scenes and now I hate him (affectionate) (sylvain from fire emblem three houses)
OH MY GOD ITS WYLANNNNNN (I love him so much but no one lets me forget that my first impression of him was "winy bitch" because first chapter first impressions)
me with muichiro- (didnt have the manga at first)
I'm worried this is going to happen to gwen from the magnus protocol for me
She annoys me so much of my least favourite manager at work
Natsuki. 💀
Actually, it's a huge pet peeve of mine. When people suddenly like a character because of their tragic backstory. Nah man, trauma doesn't excuse bad behaviour. Everyone in the world goes through something. Don't use it to justify bs.
You can understand a character better because of their tragedy, but if a person starts calling them something like "my soft lil baby" because of it, that's so weird. Why are you into their trauma???
I tend to develop a soft spot for tragic villains, but I understand your perspective. I mostly end up enjoying the characters more because I can understand how they got to that point, and it makes them feel more real.
I personally think liking villains after you learn how tragic they are is fine, as long as you can accept that their trauma doesn't excuse their actions.
But what if I still hate them after the tragic backstory 😅
That's valid! Though the backstory may make them more understandable, and adds depth to the character, it still doesn't excuse their actions!
My feelings on the character usually end of changing because of the backstory reveal, but that's mostly because I am very soft on fictional characters, especially when they are complex
@abanana_5527 Same, BASED COMMENT. Like, I _love_ my girl Catra from She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, and I am a _Catra stan,_ but...Ya'll, _this girl committed SEVERAL WAR CRIMES, JUST TO SPITE HER EX-"BEST FRIEND"._ Also, I _hated_ her in Season 3. >:(.
@@hannahmetzger4880 My sister used to like Catra, but eventually decided she didn't like her anymore because of how cruel she was. I only partially watched SheRa, so I don't know everything about the situation, but my sister described Catra as ab_sive. From what I've seen that sounds kind of accurate.
Me with luke castellan in pjo:
Me at half the RGU cast
In chronological order:
Zenitsu, Gojo and Lakan