@@Reiss-Historia yeah, this is true as well. If they put two patches at once, the players are going to be bombarded with choices, either to grind or to swipe for frames. It could fuck up the planning most people want since every patch isn't what the frames they want, and if it's combined they might not have enough time to get what the wanted before it moves on to another 2 patch
I'm hyped cause this means that Gray Raven Radio also gets the opportunity to grow even more too! You guys already are such a powerful resource, and more people playing means more people partaking of your wonderful videos and site!
How Kuro handle the adjustments to resource income and compensation will almost entirely dominate how well this is received. Kuro's got a VERY fragile balance to hit here, with some significant consequences if they fail. It's a ballsy move for sure, and if they succeed, this will become a massive standard for the industry moving forward. I'm worried about how finicky finding that balance will be for them though. I really hope they shatter all of our expectations in the best way possible though.
Dear Kuro, In my opinion, the best and fair way to compensate players is to compute how much BC, WZ coins, vouchers, PPC skulls, Norman rewards, HT and HARMO mats, and serum packs in total, a F2P player would earn if he played every day and completed weeklies/dailies if the global schedule remained unchanged. Then deduct from this total, the earnings for the shortened patch. Compensation should be computed and released on a per patch basis. Further, a safe assumption to make is Hero WZ retainer and 1-5% Ult PPC. Full clears of all Norman and Clash Reflections. Rewards from limited time events can remain as they are, and not included in the calculation of compensation every patch. Thank you!
Then for spenders, the Monthly Pass A and C rewards can be "compressed", meaning more BC per day within a shorter amount of time. (But same total BC in the end)
From my calculations that's combined 70,150 BC+Yellow Ticket worth compensation only including daily, weekly, clash reflection and norman revival. It's to be noted that it doesn't include any scarcity of leveling up/building character resources. I wonder how they gonna handle that. I'll definitely get mad and delete this game if they didn't give us what we deserve just like that 6 star weapon selector during Crimson Weave patch. Ain't no way I'm coping with 2500 yellow tickets Edit: Imo the safest way they can give all this to players who can get these is just doubling the amount of BC and other tickets given in daily mission, weekly mission, Clash Reflection and Norman Revival. That should fix this problem cuz if we're doubling the speed, the rewards should be also doubled until we catch up 🤔
@@niernightgaming2925 Yeah but it doesn't include patch events and maintenance rewards so that should be covered automatically in upcoming patches but 70K BC should be a must compensation imo. I won't accept anything less than that.
I AM CONFLICTED BECAUSE I AM BEYOND HYPED TO NOT HAVE TO WAIT A FULL YEAR FOR NEW CHARACTERS AND QOL UPDATES ANYMORE, BUT I AM VERY WORRIED BEING ABLE TO AFFORD ALL THE COATINGS I REALLY WANT (Like Alpha’s gacha coating especially) In regards to the characters themselves (ignoring weapons and CUBs-), I do feel not as worried after doing so thinking and with the next ten characters, we have 4 freebies (3 A ranks and 1 S rank dorm commissions), 2 blue targets (1 now and 1 after Ishmael’s patch), and Lilith who is supposed to be free last I heard. So in that case it should mean you’ll only really need to roll for 4 of these characters (and that’s for JUST getting the character, ignoring copies and weapons and CUBs), which does make the speed up not as terrifying of a prospect to me at least. Kuro please bless us with the reward adjustments- Edit: (I say 6 because I was including the two blue targets, personally I’m blue targeting Qu Shukura and might use my second on Nanami Startrail. So that would leave me Luna, Hanying, Lucia, and Ishmael to actually need to pull for, meaning 4).
@@Straw64 yeah exactly, I know for me I’m using my first blue target on Qu and might use the second one on Nanami, so that would leave 4 characters that I’d have to pull on
guess it's a hot take now, but I actually enjoyed the year's difference in content as it allowed me to plan ahead for which characters I was going to get and which ones I was going to skip. I can imagine in the future there will be many situations where I'll miss a character (or be tempted to pay money) because I couldn't plan ahead. Also with the speeding up of the updates I really hope they give equivalent rewards for if players had been able to spend the extra time grinding dailies and weeklies (already giving 2500 is a good sign).
It's good as a player, but bad as someone who enjoys lore, PGR has some crazy good story, but the crazy things that should have left me wowed is easily spoiled because Chinese got it a year ago
@@Aicy2008I agree, I liked having the foresight into what was coming in the future. But recently, spoilers have been getting out of hand. I'm someone who is vehemently avoiding spoilers, and I was fine for the most part but when the new Lucia patch came out, people were lowkey spamming the clips from the cutscenes on Twitter and I couldn't escape it.
Yeah i feel the same, I love to plan my pulls months ahead that its the reason I play games with a version way ahead of others (Arkinghts,FGO,PGR) or that have crazy leaks like HSR because the information. I'm skeptical until more info from Kuro is released maybe drop the game if they fumble.
I mean, I don't think you need to worry about that at all since PGR has the beta server so we already get to know if we're gonna pull a character basically a month in advance anyway
I have mixed feelings honestly. On one hand, I've always thought they should have sped up Global's patch release schedule from the start. But on the other, for us to catch up to CN within a year, I think it might just be too fast. Basically, getting overwhelmed by story and timed event content as well as not being able to enjoy coatings as long as I'd like are my main worries. The rewards compensations don't worry me because those can always get adjusted by Kuro.
^^^This! You summed up how I feel perfectly. I've seen a lot of people complain about the potential reward loss, but I feel like that's probably the easiest to fix. I'm more worried about the pacing. I'm someone who doesn't get the event content done immediately, and some events already feel like they pass too fast imo. So I'm really curious as to how they'll go about this because I don't want to be overloaded with content and get burned out. But that might just be a me issue.
Idk how I feel about this lol. I hope the compensations are enough because multiple characters in one patch is crazy. I want to have all the characters because I love this game but damn, I hope it goes well
The compensation would determine if the rushed schedule is a good thing or not. Banners would be also be rushed so there's literally no time to save. This also include the skins. Regardless, After this period. It will all be good.
I'm definitely excited but somewhat scared. I hope the compensation adjustments are really good/enough. But also, as a full-time worker with other games to play, I already enjoy the cozy time of each patch events... I know they said they'd release a calendar, but irl still comes first Still totally excited. Just hoping this is smoother than what I'm thinking how it'd be
Many people dont realize this is also a business tactic. They want to be in sync, so that nobody will know whose coming next, therefore generate hype and get players to spend When a character is shown in CN it'll generated hype across all servers, but once it gets to GL, the hype is no longer there, acting as if "This character is now off the checklist to pull, what's next?" This isnt what the devs want, and it isnt good from a business standpoint cuz people saved up their currency instead of spend And given the track record of S ranks, for meta players and malders, the new unit will most definitely powercreep someone, therefore must pull, otherwise bricced team How they will compensate us with the rewards, pulls, and coatings, we'll just have to be patient and see what they cook up
Before wuthering waves, not many people in global know about PGR so they are only focus on mainland china. Now, with people in global know about wuthering waves and PGR, they start targeting globally, just like star rail, genshin and zzz doing.
I highly doubt that anyone is gullible enough to believe that this is just a change for "player enjoyment". This will take a huge toll on spenders while Kuro basically gets a year's worth of revenue in advance. It's a fucking horrible idea because they'll either end up with an upset playerbase as a whole, satisfied f2ps and upset spenders, or lose a significant amount of potential revenue. We all know there's no way they're going with the last option
This is a HUGE news i trust in Kuro can handle this finally we can catch china i wasn't expecting this in none of lee timelines. I guess my chinese account can rest now. But damm 2~3 patch in 6 weeks in absolute unbelievable, I'm glad they hear our complain about be behind.
I just hope the rewards are in black cards instead of event construct R&D tickets. I'm someone who prioritizes gacha skins over characters and it would really bad if the compensation for catching up is only limited to pulling characters. Cause it would be like replacing the BCs you would get from the extra week or so time (that's getting reduced), with event construct tickets from event rewards. I hope someone brings this issue up with Kuro.
For me my biggest issue is SFX coatings and no amount of BCs would help me with that, but yes BC is the absolute minimum. Tickets aren't helping, especially with them being split between characters, weapons and cubs. I will definitely write a very long essay about all potential downsides of this sped up plan during the next survey.... and just copy paste it on my alt accounts to be sure they see it xD
Tbh I don't mind that at all as a f2p but what I am really curious about is on the compensation side of all this. Just want to see how they are gonna compensate all global players for an entire year for trying to catch up with the Cn side of the game. We shall see how it goes
@randompseudonym106 on a f2p perspective I definitely get your point, that's why I am curious to see how there are going to pull that off without enraging their f2p player on the other side whales are definitely the happiest with this news cause never the less they have the power of their wallet by their side 😂
@@Destixy.z other whales I've spoken too aren't happy either. I'm also one myself. That's like expecting a cow is happier you're going to milk it faster and more. No thanks on that.
I really want to see how they are going to implement this catch up without making F2P accounts quit entirely. Releasing 2-3 characters in one patch means having enough to make 120 or 180 pulls without touching your wallet, which is hard to even imagine, unless they offer characters for free (which would piss off CN players). The road ahead isn't just bumpy, it filled with thorns and pitfalls.
On one hand more content coming faster! On the other, you can't plan out which characters to save for... That said, one downside of being behind is that when new story and events come out on global no one is really excited since they already got CN news/spoilers. So hopefully this will boost the hype when new story chapters come out!
From the sounds of it, we might get what we're getting as usual BUT we're also getting what China is getting with some changes as necessary (due to story spoilers, etc).
i love this company .. even with the time pressure .. they are trying to compensate the players with more rewards ..they respect the players not like the most other gacha companies,
Me and my friend had a conversation JUST TONIGHT "Can you play team fight tactics" "I'll play when you download PGR" "Well I'll download it when Nanami startrail comes out" "No fair, it's gonna be a whole year before that happens" LMAO
I was really worried that we'd wait for a whole year to get our hands on the DMC5 collab, until this banger dropped and gave me so hope and excitement, the catching up process may be bumpy but ayy, the advantages outweight the disadvantages. What a great time to be a huge PGR fan.
I literally dropped the global version because of the difference in content and was playing the TW version instead, this is literally the best news I could hear regarding this game, just WOW
As a low spender I always manage to pull all characters and 6* weapons on launch day, if this change in the Roadmap affects me negatively and I don't get all characters on launch day I won't play this game anymore. What I hope is that all the rewards with pulls are doubled or tripled depending on how many patches they put together. They can also make the Reruns banner always 100% rate until we reach the CN server. And the materials to level up the characters in the store cost less points according to the amount of characters together in the same patch.
Same. Been playing since Luna patch and so far I had no complaints about the game and how Kuro managed it. If they fuck up on how they handle compensation it's a bye bye from me (for both PGR and WuWa).
Same here, low spender, if they put packs and monthly passes with x3 rewards but that cost three times more i will stop playing. I refuse to keep giving my time to a company that betrayed my commitment with the game
guys seriously, do you think they are not gonna give us more rewards? they do not want to lose players. maybe you'll not be able to get all of the characters, but does that change that much? I'm a f2p and I got all the characters who came out since the start of this year except Watanabe because I want to sss qu shukra. if I can do it now, you'll do it as a low spender. They are 100% gonna give us more black cards, they said it in their official site. I don't get how you guys can worry about these type of things when it's clear that they are not gonna price up all the monthly banners since they do not want to lose players
@@elenariotti It's not about the free rewards, it's about the PAID rewards. If we need to pay double, or at worst, triple the amount just the get the same content we would usually get, most paid players will just f*cking leave. I spend about 100 bucks per patch, mostly because I collect SFX coatings. If they release twice as many coatings in one patch I am not just gonna spend 200 bucks that's not happening.
@JJKMagic bro, as I said, they are not gonne price up, do you really thing they are that stupid? they know they'd lose players If the prices got up, and they wouldn't get money at all if the prices are too up for the players. think for a minute please
i hope we don't lose on the currency amount like PPC skulls and Black Cards(i know they will adjust it somehow, but am still worried) because just hearing this news already messing up my future plans
This announcement hit me like a truck, like for a moment my brain was like: Oh, I don't remember this event happening on CN a year ago, before my brain had caught up to the temporal mechanics of why I don't remember this happening before
As someone who has played both in cn and global, it's a bad idea, but if they execute this properly(basically compensations that would be enough for people to not complain) it'll be fine
Probably one of the reasons or maybe even the main reason they're doing this is because of the collab. Revenue-wise this has the potential to be the best the global side will see then and maybe even for years after the collab ends. They want to make sure that everyone experiences the hype at the same time.
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Funny that I asked for this during the 5th anniversary! Kuro really does listen!
this is cool but also worries me. Unless the rewards are very very very good, its gonna be some next level pain having to somehow roll for 3 characters per patch. its bad. rough idk tough.
I just hope the event exclusive activities aren’t left out. Some have their own mini narrative to support the ongoing chapter in the main story. And some are seasonal and yet others are just plain fun minigames. I worry by speedrunning this. We are either gonna be overwhelmed with or be missing out on content.
idk how i feel about this. i actually really enjoyed knowing what's coming next and what to plan for. it has been really fun being a spender that also knows when the free patches are and what level of investment i want to give. with this, not only will i be gacha'ing way more often, i'll lose that foresight. idk. it's cool, but considering i'm a dolphin who will SS3 every S rank that drops (more or less) and at least r1 the weapon, i'm worried
This is definitely going to fuck me up when it comes to being a f2p, cause now we will have less time to save up tickets and black cards for them. I was lucky to be able to grab both Uncle and Qu, but I had to use my blue pity for Lamiya specifially to not miss out on the meta characters for those 2 teams, rip.
i was happy being able to plan out my BC spending and now i can no longer use the information from the next year i am scared but also excited to get some of the characters and events sooner
I wish I could be among the optimistic people going, yes, they will just double all rewards and everything will be fine, but there is so much you have to consider with this. F2Ps and spenders both need to be compensated, so while we need to double in-game rewards, realistically we also need to double all paid content. Like low spenders being used to their monthly pass covering everything they need? Now it's not even close to enough unless they double/triple the daily BCs it gives. For me the biggest issue is indeed coatings. I buy all SFX coatings... I can't just buy double, triple the amount of coatings in one patch now. And reruns don't help since CN is not gonna stop releasing new content while we play catch up so there will always be new coatings I would have to buy at the same time. And then there's coatings that never got a rerun like the angel Liv coating, so while MOST skins rerun there is not guarantee that all of them will. And completely disregarding compensation I really just don't feel like having to clear triple the amount of content in the same amount of time. Many casuals might not even have the TIME to do so. With its many regularly resetting endgame modes I have to admit I am rather busy just doing the usual event content. I don't know how I feel about being rushed to clear everything if I want all the usual rewards. I would rather they cut some of the smaller events and add the rewards to the big patch events to avoid an overload of events all running at once. Nevermind the new player experience. Like being drowned in events and banners when you literally are just trying to figure out the basics can feel super overwhelming, especially if they're not aware that this is a temporary thing. Overall I feel like the announcement is a little half-baked. Like they addressed all issues, great and all, but it's so vague it could mean anything...
i think combing multiple patch into one was a good idea since the 2-1 weeks at the end of the patch can feel a bit of to much down time. though i feel like my wallet is groaning in pain for the incoming diet it about to receive
Huh. Just 10 pulls? We're going to miss out on a year's worth of free resources and monthly pass, battle pass rewards, they'd better have at least 600 free pulls and simultaneously activatable monthly passes coming
omg i already planned my pulls+ i computed how many bc i can get per patch as an f2p and then THIS😢 ohh they better double the bc especially PPC skulls and Hypertune Mats😭 im hollering so bad rn idk what to feel
Same. With the current pace of patch releases, once every 4-5 weeks, saving up for a meta S tier character every 2 patches was not a problem. Now they are speeding up the release of patches by 2+ times, and I can’t imagine if they will be able to properly compensate for all currencies. At a minimum, those 2500 BC must now be issued every month.
If they dont double all bc income, ticket and resource rewards this will probably fail. It takes a full patch or 2 now to get enough currency to guarantee the new 6* characters that come out. It will be impossible to get 2 per patch if they dont buff rewards. Also, tho the game is great, the story has so much dialogue. Sometimes theres 5+ nodes in a row of 20 minute dialogue before you even get to a battle. Im so backed up on the story and this sync is not going to help that at all.
My only hope that the reward would be increased since the time will go faster before getting into CN patches Having 3 new constructs already resources consuming, not to mention Leap Upgrade from left and right for Meta units I might need to prioritize preparing enough resources and pausing my plan to properly resonance Meta units memory
Probably a dumb idea but in my opinion the biggest issue is char, sig weapon, trade vouchers, gacha skin prices so maybe they could just double every source of bc, event construct cards, all other cards so for example the weekly reward becomes 2000 instead of 1000 and the paid battle pass gives 5000 event construct cards etc
OH. MY. GOD. Time to strap in with a racing harness guys and gals, we're heading to CN Synchronisation at breakneck speeds! 🤯 Suuper hyped for this, i only hope Kuro can get the rewards and monetisation adjustments to work out 🤞Thanks as always for the news Gray Raven Radio!
I usually check the roadmap and think to myself: "Oh wow, this character looks pretty cool. Too bad I'll have to wait six months." But now, with this announcement, I can't help but feel excited! I've faith in the promised additional rewards, in my opinion, Kuro has always been generous with those.
Aether Gazer tried this idea and it blew up badly. Since then they stopped. I sincerely hope this isn't repeat of that problem. As a spenders because I want to support and get goodies this worries me greatly. If they are pushing more then 1 character a patch and the packs aren't adjusted for them or the gacha coatings aren't adjusting. This will be a big L.
> This means goodbye to future sight (Cons) > So far, the gap between each S ranks patches allows completely f2p player to atleast able to get the S-rank(Watanabe-Qu event is an exception). I hope they don't break this. (Worrying) > Say, they provide a monthly card that has the rewards of 3x usual monthly card, with 3x price aswell. I'd say its a slightly bad thing bcs the steep wall will probably hinder some moderate/monthly-only spender. (Cons) > Getting new units faster = reduced service time = faster powercreep (Cons) All of this for the excitement of getting new stuffs at the same time as CN. I dont think this is a fair trade.
If we’re gonna be having 3 versions in 1 patch, they have to at least triple all BC rewards in everything(events, weeklies & daily missions, etc) if they don’t want the community to out right go on a rebellion
The usual duration of a single patch is 6 weeks If Kuro wants global to catch up to CN, they should: - reduce the duration of a patch by half so 3 weeks for one patch - reduce the duration of Norman and clash reflection to one week (3 times per patch) - double the amount of BC and materials obtained from PPC, WZ and dailies - make the patch's events last the whole patch I don't know if I am right but feel free to suggest other options if you have
I get the idea you're trying to tell and its plausible but here is my thought: 1. they already said it will be 2-3 combined per around 6 weeks of patch so it's either 2+2+2 or 3+3. 2. reducing the duration of Norman and CR and adding more cycles instead of increasing their rewards per cycle will only make it more tedious. 3. someone already calculate the number of BC we might lose so it's better to refer to the right amount instead of x2. 4. that or fine tuning the event and make it easier and less time gated to clear.
Honestly the simplest solution imo would be: 1. Double ALL recurring rewards (daily, weekly, clash reflection, norman etc) - the easiest part imo 2. Double ALL PAID content (double daily rewards from Monthly Pass, double RC per pack). They are expecting everyone to buy twice the amount of stuff after all. - This will definitely cause issues. 3. Cut some of the smaller events and add their rewards to the bigger patch events to avoid an absolute overload of small events popping up every day. - this would also cause issues, because people will definitely fight over which events are important to keep and which aren't.
Ishmael, DMC5 Collab -- it's all coming sooner than you'd think. How are we feeling?
We eating good tonight! As long as they compensate us properly we are happy
Finally i am MOTIVATED
Anxious lol
Don’t forget get Lilith and Selena third new look frame
Hyped and a bit scared at the accelerated schedule. It was already tight to get character as a f2p.
We are going to mald like we've never malded before in this catch-up. Brace your poor hands everyone!
I don't think my college schedule would allow me to play the game more than an hour😔
UWWOOOOOOOOOOOO
bring it on 💥💥💥
Good, because i feel like its so barren for like a week before a new patch dropped.
I think pulling for SSS brs is not worth it after hearing this ☠☠🔥🔥
Rare footage of a UA-cam video with the title "doing the impossible" actually holds true.
Yeah. I really hope they don't go through with it. If they fuck this up a whole lot of players will be upset and quit
@@Reiss-Historia yeah, this is true as well. If they put two patches at once, the players are going to be bombarded with choices, either to grind or to swipe for frames.
It could fuck up the planning most people want since every patch isn't what the frames they want, and if it's combined they might not have enough time to get what the wanted before it moves on to another 2 patch
All my planning spreadsheets in Excel are gone. 😭
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I'm hyped cause this means that Gray Raven Radio also gets the opportunity to grow even more too! You guys already are such a powerful resource, and more people playing means more people partaking of your wonderful videos and site!
Aww your support means the world to us 🥰
How Kuro handle the adjustments to resource income and compensation will almost entirely dominate how well this is received. Kuro's got a VERY fragile balance to hit here, with some significant consequences if they fail. It's a ballsy move for sure, and if they succeed, this will become a massive standard for the industry moving forward. I'm worried about how finicky finding that balance will be for them though. I really hope they shatter all of our expectations in the best way possible though.
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Global, or maybe the english-speaking world, you mean. I'm not from the west but this channel is my go-to for everything PGR and WuWa.
Building 4 to 5 characters in 2 patches will be insane ngl
Not for me since im playimg simce launch lol
Your telling me my only ss u it's are alya echo alpha and Bianca
There will be free resources as mentioned in the last pgr post
After playing for 1 and a half years, I now have so many materials and Cogs that I don't know what to do with them.
@imcat1236 the big roadblock for me is pain cage skulls
Dear Kuro,
In my opinion, the best and fair way to compensate players is to compute how much BC, WZ coins, vouchers, PPC skulls, Norman rewards, HT and HARMO mats, and serum packs in total,
a F2P player would earn if he played every day and completed weeklies/dailies if the global schedule remained unchanged.
Then deduct from this total, the earnings for the shortened patch. Compensation should be computed and released on a per patch basis.
Further, a safe assumption to make is Hero WZ retainer and 1-5% Ult PPC. Full clears of all Norman and Clash Reflections.
Rewards from limited time events can remain as they are, and not included in the calculation of compensation every patch.
Thank you!
Then for spenders, the Monthly Pass A and C rewards can be "compressed",
meaning more BC per day within a shorter amount of time. (But same total BC in the end)
Anything other than that is completely unacceptable.
@@earthlingx5267 u mean 15 days for a full earn mp? that is x2 money
@@otienlam4759 Basicall yeah. For examples, MP-A will give 3300 BC in total, but in 15 days instead of 30.
@@earthlingx5267 this looks like I am the one adjusting my financial plan to spend 2x amount per month instead of them adjusting the gain
WHAT... This completely ruined my plans. I'll go cry in the corner.
Meanwhile this makes me come back to the game because this 1 year gap had me pissed ever since i started the game
From my calculations that's combined 70,150 BC+Yellow Ticket worth compensation only including daily, weekly, clash reflection and norman revival. It's to be noted that it doesn't include any scarcity of leveling up/building character resources. I wonder how they gonna handle that. I'll definitely get mad and delete this game if they didn't give us what we deserve just like that 6 star weapon selector during Crimson Weave patch. Ain't no way I'm coping with 2500 yellow tickets
Edit: Imo the safest way they can give all this to players who can get these is just doubling the amount of BC and other tickets given in daily mission, weekly mission, Clash Reflection and Norman Revival. That should fix this problem cuz if we're doubling the speed, the rewards should be also doubled until we catch up 🤔
I feel like it would be around 100k , including all of extra stuff they give during each patch.
@@niernightgaming2925 Yeah but it doesn't include patch events and maintenance rewards so that should be covered automatically in upcoming patches but 70K BC should be a must compensation imo. I won't accept anything less than that.
also wonder about monthly passes cause I'll be pissed asf having it accelerated while not getting the full benefit of the 1 whole year of passes
@@WanshiLucidDreamer dont hope too much bro. This is kuro, they probably will do a mistake 😂
@@agunkorea2995 Yeah probably 😂. But I still believe in them
I AM CONFLICTED BECAUSE I AM BEYOND HYPED TO NOT HAVE TO WAIT A FULL YEAR FOR NEW CHARACTERS AND QOL UPDATES ANYMORE, BUT I AM VERY WORRIED BEING ABLE TO AFFORD ALL THE COATINGS I REALLY WANT (Like Alpha’s gacha coating especially)
In regards to the characters themselves (ignoring weapons and CUBs-), I do feel not as worried after doing so thinking and with the next ten characters, we have 4 freebies (3 A ranks and 1 S rank dorm commissions), 2 blue targets (1 now and 1 after Ishmael’s patch), and Lilith who is supposed to be free last I heard. So in that case it should mean you’ll only really need to roll for 4 of these characters (and that’s for JUST getting the character, ignoring copies and weapons and CUBs), which does make the speed up not as terrifying of a prospect to me at least. Kuro please bless us with the reward adjustments-
Edit: (I say 6 because I was including the two blue targets, personally I’m blue targeting Qu Shukura and might use my second on Nanami Startrail. So that would leave me Luna, Hanying, Lucia, and Ishmael to actually need to pull for, meaning 4).
Actually it's 6 unit to pull including Qu, after Qu, there will be Luna, Hanying, Lucia, Nanami, Ishmael didn't count free Wanshi Ice Tank.
I think you don't have a problem on skins since they rerun a lot except for those collab or true limited skins
@r.a.v.e.n217 they took into account the blue targets.
@@Straw64 yeah exactly, I know for me I’m using my first blue target on Qu and might use the second one on Nanami, so that would leave 4 characters that I’d have to pull on
@ I guess so, I am simply a victim of fomo LOL
RIP every pull plan spreadsheet
Rip our clairvoyance...
But the joy of discovery!
the only issue I can think of right now is whenever you're busy that you have no time at all to play
I am honestly scared and exited at the same time, the success of this really depends on how they handle compensation
guess it's a hot take now, but I actually enjoyed the year's difference in content as it allowed me to plan ahead for which characters I was going to get and which ones I was going to skip. I can imagine in the future there will be many situations where I'll miss a character (or be tempted to pay money) because I couldn't plan ahead. Also with the speeding up of the updates I really hope they give equivalent rewards for if players had been able to spend the extra time grinding dailies and weeklies (already giving 2500 is a good sign).
It's good as a player, but bad as someone who enjoys lore, PGR has some crazy good story, but the crazy things that should have left me wowed is easily spoiled because Chinese got it a year ago
@@Aicy2008I agree, I liked having the foresight into what was coming in the future. But recently, spoilers have been getting out of hand. I'm someone who is vehemently avoiding spoilers, and I was fine for the most part but when the new Lucia patch came out, people were lowkey spamming the clips from the cutscenes on Twitter and I couldn't escape it.
Yeah i feel the same, I love to plan my pulls months ahead that its the reason I play games with a version way ahead of others (Arkinghts,FGO,PGR) or that have crazy leaks like HSR because the information. I'm skeptical until more info from Kuro is released maybe drop the game if they fumble.
I mean, I don't think you need to worry about that at all since PGR has the beta server so we already get to know if we're gonna pull a character basically a month in advance anyway
@Aicy2008 you can literally ignore all of that stuff. I haven't had a single thing spoiled for me.
Dood your avatar is cute and cool. You're fantastic as always, thank you for this update. ❤
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Vergil and Dante: Ended this
DMC: PoC is COOKED for good
@@frozenser.2356And that's good
I have mixed feelings honestly. On one hand, I've always thought they should have sped up Global's patch release schedule from the start. But on the other, for us to catch up to CN within a year, I think it might just be too fast. Basically, getting overwhelmed by story and timed event content as well as not being able to enjoy coatings as long as I'd like are my main worries. The rewards compensations don't worry me because those can always get adjusted by Kuro.
^^^This! You summed up how I feel perfectly. I've seen a lot of people complain about the potential reward loss, but I feel like that's probably the easiest to fix. I'm more worried about the pacing. I'm someone who doesn't get the event content done immediately, and some events already feel like they pass too fast imo. So I'm really curious as to how they'll go about this because I don't want to be overloaded with content and get burned out. But that might just be a me issue.
Same, having limited time and liking this type of games is hell.
So excited! Thanks for all the great content and hopefully you can keep making it at the pace they're going to release now for global
It's gonna be a lot but we're more excited than ever!!
Idk how I feel about this lol. I hope the compensations are enough because multiple characters in one patch is crazy. I want to have all the characters because I love this game but damn, I hope it goes well
The compensation would determine if the rushed schedule is a good thing or not.
Banners would be also be rushed so there's literally no time to save.
This also include the skins.
Regardless, After this period. It will all be good.
Lucia Pyroath is GORGEOUS
✅
I'm definitely excited but somewhat scared. I hope the compensation adjustments are really good/enough. But also, as a full-time worker with other games to play, I already enjoy the cozy time of each patch events... I know they said they'd release a calendar, but irl still comes first
Still totally excited. Just hoping this is smoother than what I'm thinking how it'd be
The storm is approaching!
Many people dont realize this is also a business tactic. They want to be in sync, so that nobody will know whose coming next, therefore generate hype and get players to spend
When a character is shown in CN it'll generated hype across all servers, but once it gets to GL, the hype is no longer there, acting as if "This character is now off the checklist to pull, what's next?" This isnt what the devs want, and it isnt good from a business standpoint cuz people saved up their currency instead of spend
And given the track record of S ranks, for meta players and malders, the new unit will most definitely powercreep someone, therefore must pull, otherwise bricced team
How they will compensate us with the rewards, pulls, and coatings, we'll just have to be patient and see what they cook up
Yeah agree. I remain skeptical until more info from Kuro but probably drop it I don't like that you can't plan your pulls.
Before wuthering waves, not many people in global know about PGR so they are only focus on mainland china. Now, with people in global know about wuthering waves and PGR, they start targeting globally, just like star rail, genshin and zzz doing.
I highly doubt that anyone is gullible enough to believe that this is just a change for "player enjoyment". This will take a huge toll on spenders while Kuro basically gets a year's worth of revenue in advance.
It's a fucking horrible idea because they'll either end up with an upset playerbase as a whole, satisfied f2ps and upset spenders, or lose a significant amount of potential revenue. We all know there's no way they're going with the last option
This is a HUGE news i trust in Kuro can handle this finally we can catch china i wasn't expecting this in none of lee timelines. I guess my chinese account can rest now.
But damm 2~3 patch in 6 weeks in absolute unbelievable, I'm glad they hear our complain about be behind.
Really worried on how they'll "compensate" us for the rush, and I'd rather be able to plan ahead, I'm not that desperate.
I’m so excited! I can’t wait to hype together for new contents!
I just hope the rewards are in black cards instead of event construct R&D tickets. I'm someone who prioritizes gacha skins over characters and it would really bad if the compensation for catching up is only limited to pulling characters.
Cause it would be like replacing the BCs you would get from the extra week or so time (that's getting reduced), with event construct tickets from event rewards. I hope someone brings this issue up with Kuro.
For me my biggest issue is SFX coatings and no amount of BCs would help me with that, but yes BC is the absolute minimum. Tickets aren't helping, especially with them being split between characters, weapons and cubs. I will definitely write a very long essay about all potential downsides of this sped up plan during the next survey.... and just copy paste it on my alt accounts to be sure they see it xD
better get ready, you guys have more content to work for 🔥🔥🔥
Tbh I don't mind that at all as a f2p but what I am really curious about is on the compensation side of all this.
Just want to see how they are gonna compensate all global players for an entire year for trying to catch up with the Cn side of the game.
We shall see how it goes
I wouldn't hold your breath. We already have shorter patches without more rewards.
@randompseudonym106 on a f2p perspective I definitely get your point, that's why I am curious to see how there are going to pull that off without enraging their f2p player on the other side whales are definitely the happiest with this news cause never the less they have the power of their wallet by their side 😂
@@Destixy.z other whales I've spoken too aren't happy either. I'm also one myself. That's like expecting a cow is happier you're going to milk it faster and more. No thanks on that.
@@randompseudonym106 yeah when you put it like that it's understandable
I really want to see how they are going to implement this catch up without making F2P accounts quit entirely. Releasing 2-3 characters in one patch means having enough to make 120 or 180 pulls without touching your wallet, which is hard to even imagine, unless they offer characters for free (which would piss off CN players). The road ahead isn't just bumpy, it filled with thorns and pitfalls.
On one hand more content coming faster! On the other, you can't plan out which characters to save for...
That said, one downside of being behind is that when new story and events come out on global no one is really excited since they already got CN news/spoilers. So hopefully this will boost the hype when new story chapters come out!
I LOVE THIS! Holy crap I'm actually shaking. No more waiting a whole year for all the latest stuff.
From the sounds of it, we might get what we're getting as usual BUT we're also getting what China is getting with some changes as necessary (due to story spoilers, etc).
so, short version: look, we collab with DMC and you guys have to be there to witness
i love this company .. even with the time pressure .. they are trying to compensate the players with more rewards ..they respect the players not like the most other gacha companies,
It's such a nice surprise! Luna's new frame is coming sooner, yay!
I’m new here and I wanted to say thank u sm this is such amazing news and I’m def exited!!!
There goes my planning. I hope I can get Hanying, Luna, Ishmael, CW coating and still have enough for DMC collab
Me and my friend had a conversation JUST TONIGHT
"Can you play team fight tactics"
"I'll play when you download PGR"
"Well I'll download it when Nanami startrail comes out"
"No fair, it's gonna be a whole year before that happens"
LMAO
Bro, legendary convo right there XD
Im actually very excited, this is great news!
I was really worried that we'd wait for a whole year to get our hands on the DMC5 collab, until this banger dropped and gave me so hope and excitement, the catching up process may be bumpy but ayy, the advantages outweight the disadvantages. What a great time to be a huge PGR fan.
I literally dropped the global version because of the difference in content and was playing the TW version instead, this is literally the best news I could hear regarding this game, just WOW
wow that Lamia coating is gorgeous :o i hope i can save for Lucia pyroath still!
Lucia coming home early with this one
As a low spender I always manage to pull all characters and 6* weapons on launch day, if this change in the Roadmap affects me negatively and I don't get all characters on launch day I won't play this game anymore. What I hope is that all the rewards with pulls are doubled or tripled depending on how many patches they put together. They can also make the Reruns banner always 100% rate until we reach the CN server. And the materials to level up the characters in the store cost less points according to the amount of characters together in the same patch.
Same. Been playing since Luna patch and so far I had no complaints about the game and how Kuro managed it. If they fuck up on how they handle compensation it's a bye bye from me (for both PGR and WuWa).
Same here, low spender, if they put packs and monthly passes with x3 rewards but that cost three times more i will stop playing. I refuse to keep giving my time to a company that betrayed my commitment with the game
guys seriously, do you think they are not gonna give us more rewards? they do not want to lose players. maybe you'll not be able to get all of the characters, but does that change that much? I'm a f2p and I got all the characters who came out since the start of this year except Watanabe because I want to sss qu shukra. if I can do it now, you'll do it as a low spender. They are 100% gonna give us more black cards, they said it in their official site. I don't get how you guys can worry about these type of things when it's clear that they are not gonna price up all the monthly banners since they do not want to lose players
@@elenariotti It's not about the free rewards, it's about the PAID rewards. If we need to pay double, or at worst, triple the amount just the get the same content we would usually get, most paid players will just f*cking leave. I spend about 100 bucks per patch, mostly because I collect SFX coatings. If they release twice as many coatings in one patch I am not just gonna spend 200 bucks that's not happening.
@JJKMagic bro, as I said, they are not gonne price up, do you really thing they are that stupid? they know they'd lose players If the prices got up, and they wouldn't get money at all if the prices are too up for the players. think for a minute please
i hope we don't lose on the currency amount like PPC skulls and Black Cards(i know they will adjust it somehow, but am still worried) because just hearing this news already messing up my future plans
This announcement hit me like a truck, like for a moment my brain was like: Oh, I don't remember this event happening on CN a year ago, before my brain had caught up to the temporal mechanics of why I don't remember this happening before
kuro - goat
gray raven radio - goat
Pray this goes well 🙏
Our divine foresight has been taken.
i'm so exicted i don't have to wait too long for nanami
Buffed Monthly passes? Let's goooo
Wanshi's S-rank and Ishmael coming sooner!!! Yes!!!!
Right in time so we can get hyped for the, DMC V collab! This is gonna be wild and I'll be here for it!
As someone who has played both in cn and global, it's a bad idea, but if they execute this properly(basically compensations that would be enough for people to not complain) it'll be fine
I am so scared to miss out on s ranks. Like, i make my plans thinkg: "ok, if i save for 3 version I'll get 20k bc"
Probably one of the reasons or maybe even the main reason they're doing this is because of the collab. Revenue-wise this has the potential to be the best the global side will see then and maybe even for years after the collab ends. They want to make sure that everyone experiences the hype at the same time.
Funny that I asked for this during the 5th anniversary! Kuro really does listen!
this is cool but also worries me. Unless the rewards are very very very good, its gonna be some next level pain having to somehow roll for 3 characters per patch. its bad. rough idk tough.
This was the begining of the end for an MMO I used to play. I hope it is not so for PGR.
Aether Gazer : "First time?"
Oh i hope my poor phone can handle it, because i am so excited wow
Let's Gooooo!!!
I just hope the event exclusive activities aren’t left out.
Some have their own mini narrative to support the ongoing chapter in the main story.
And some are seasonal and yet others are just plain fun minigames.
I worry by speedrunning this. We are either gonna be overwhelmed with or be missing out on content.
idk how i feel about this. i actually really enjoyed knowing what's coming next and what to plan for. it has been really fun being a spender that also knows when the free patches are and what level of investment i want to give. with this, not only will i be gacha'ing way more often, i'll lose that foresight. idk. it's cool, but considering i'm a dolphin who will SS3 every S rank that drops (more or less) and at least r1 the weapon, i'm worried
This is definitely going to fuck me up when it comes to being a f2p, cause now we will have less time to save up tickets and black cards for them. I was lucky to be able to grab both Uncle and Qu, but I had to use my blue pity for Lamiya specifially to not miss out on the meta characters for those 2 teams, rip.
I'll miss having future sight. We all will.
This might be the best time to pick up PGR I'm soo excited This means alpha coating is coming even sooner let's gooo
I want it sooo bad
i was happy being able to plan out my BC spending and now i can no longer use the information from the next year i am scared but also excited to get some of the characters and events sooner
I wish I could be among the optimistic people going, yes, they will just double all rewards and everything will be fine, but there is so much you have to consider with this.
F2Ps and spenders both need to be compensated, so while we need to double in-game rewards, realistically we also need to double all paid content.
Like low spenders being used to their monthly pass covering everything they need? Now it's not even close to enough unless they double/triple the daily BCs it gives.
For me the biggest issue is indeed coatings. I buy all SFX coatings... I can't just buy double, triple the amount of coatings in one patch now. And reruns don't help since CN is not gonna stop releasing new content while we play catch up so there will always be new coatings I would have to buy at the same time. And then there's coatings that never got a rerun like the angel Liv coating, so while MOST skins rerun there is not guarantee that all of them will.
And completely disregarding compensation I really just don't feel like having to clear triple the amount of content in the same amount of time. Many casuals might not even have the TIME to do so. With its many regularly resetting endgame modes I have to admit I am rather busy just doing the usual event content. I don't know how I feel about being rushed to clear everything if I want all the usual rewards. I would rather they cut some of the smaller events and add the rewards to the big patch events to avoid an overload of events all running at once.
Nevermind the new player experience. Like being drowned in events and banners when you literally are just trying to figure out the basics can feel super overwhelming, especially if they're not aware that this is a temporary thing.
Overall I feel like the announcement is a little half-baked. Like they addressed all issues, great and all, but it's so vague it could mean anything...
i think combing multiple patch into one was a good idea since the 2-1 weeks at the end of the patch can feel a bit of to much down time. though i feel like my wallet is groaning in pain for the incoming diet it about to receive
Huh. Just 10 pulls? We're going to miss out on a year's worth of free resources and monthly pass, battle pass rewards, they'd better have at least 600 free pulls and simultaneously activatable monthly passes coming
HUGE FOR THE FUTURE OF PGR
I feel like the gap should be no more than 6 months ahead.
man you're quick with these videos, good work
I just hope the Ayla summer skin is planned in time for summer still.
I hope they compensate the grinding content also. Imagine PPC skulls wz reward and harmony shards didnt include on the compensation.😢
They better gave us the estimated amount of black cards and pain cage skulls we get per patch if they're doing this.
omg i already planned my pulls+ i computed how many bc i can get per patch as an f2p and then THIS😢 ohh they better double the bc especially PPC skulls and Hypertune Mats😭 im hollering so bad rn idk what to feel
Same. With the current pace of patch releases, once every 4-5 weeks, saving up for a meta S tier character every 2 patches was not a problem. Now they are speeding up the release of patches by 2+ times, and I can’t imagine if they will be able to properly compensate for all currencies. At a minimum, those 2500 BC must now be issued every month.
They will need to triplicate or quadruplicate the rewards
I know that feel bro the power to plan your pulls is so good :(
If they dont double all bc income, ticket and resource rewards this will probably fail. It takes a full patch or 2 now to get enough currency to guarantee the new 6* characters that come out. It will be impossible to get 2 per patch if they dont buff rewards. Also, tho the game is great, the story has so much dialogue. Sometimes theres 5+ nodes in a row of 20 minute dialogue before you even get to a battle. Im so backed up on the story and this sync is not going to help that at all.
My only hope that the reward would be increased since the time will go faster before getting into CN patches
Having 3 new constructs already resources consuming, not to mention Leap Upgrade from left and right for Meta units
I might need to prioritize preparing enough resources and pausing my plan to properly resonance Meta units memory
SO EXCITED WOOO!!!!
Def cant wait for PGR x DMC5. That capcom game has a special place in my heart
This is gonna be peak
My excitement is ready, My wallet is not
Probably a dumb idea but in my opinion the biggest issue is char, sig weapon, trade vouchers, gacha skin prices so maybe they could just double every source of bc, event construct cards, all other cards so for example the weekly reward becomes 2000 instead of 1000 and the paid battle pass gives 5000 event construct cards etc
OH. MY. GOD. Time to strap in with a racing harness guys and gals, we're heading to CN Synchronisation at breakneck speeds! 🤯 Suuper hyped for this, i only hope Kuro can get the rewards and monetisation adjustments to work out 🤞Thanks as always for the news Gray Raven Radio!
I usually check the roadmap and think to myself: "Oh wow, this character looks pretty cool. Too bad I'll have to wait six months."
But now, with this announcement, I can't help but feel excited!
I've faith in the promised additional rewards, in my opinion, Kuro has always been generous with those.
Aether Gazer tried this idea and it blew up badly. Since then they stopped. I sincerely hope this isn't repeat of that problem. As a spenders because I want to support and get goodies this worries me greatly. If they are pushing more then 1 character a patch and the packs aren't adjusted for them or the gacha coatings aren't adjusting. This will be a big L.
> This means goodbye to future sight (Cons)
> So far, the gap between each S ranks patches allows completely f2p player to atleast able to get the S-rank(Watanabe-Qu event is an exception). I hope they don't break this. (Worrying)
> Say, they provide a monthly card that has the rewards of 3x usual monthly card, with 3x price aswell. I'd say its a slightly bad thing bcs the steep wall will probably hinder some moderate/monthly-only spender. (Cons)
> Getting new units faster = reduced service time = faster powercreep (Cons)
All of this for the excitement of getting new stuffs at the same time as CN. I dont think this is a fair trade.
If we’re gonna be having 3 versions in 1 patch, they have to at least triple all BC rewards in everything(events, weeklies & daily missions, etc) if they don’t want the community to out right go on a rebellion
The usual duration of a single patch is 6 weeks
If Kuro wants global to catch up to CN, they should:
- reduce the duration of a patch by half so 3 weeks for one patch
- reduce the duration of Norman and clash reflection to one week (3 times per patch)
- double the amount of BC and materials obtained from PPC, WZ and dailies
- make the patch's events last the whole patch
I don't know if I am right but feel free to suggest other options if you have
I get the idea you're trying to tell and its plausible but here is my thought:
1. they already said it will be 2-3 combined per around 6 weeks of patch so it's either 2+2+2 or 3+3.
2. reducing the duration of Norman and CR and adding more cycles instead of increasing their rewards per cycle will only make it more tedious.
3. someone already calculate the number of BC we might lose so it's better to refer to the right amount instead of x2.
4. that or fine tuning the event and make it easier and less time gated to clear.
Honestly the simplest solution imo would be:
1. Double ALL recurring rewards (daily, weekly, clash reflection, norman etc) - the easiest part imo
2. Double ALL PAID content (double daily rewards from Monthly Pass, double RC per pack). They are expecting everyone to buy twice the amount of stuff after all.
- This will definitely cause issues.
3. Cut some of the smaller events and add their rewards to the bigger patch events to avoid an absolute overload of small events popping up every day.
- this would also cause issues, because people will definitely fight over which events are important to keep and which aren't.
Nooooooo my third eye vision
My wallet ain't ready
I will sacrifice my exams for this.
Im so excited