TALON vs BB TEAM - PLAYOFFS ELIMINATION - TI12 THE INTERNATIONAL 2023 DOTA 2

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  • @YantoWest
    @YantoWest Рік тому +32

    Does nobody in Talon has the balls to tell 23 to chill? He always dies like a support. Match could've ended 2-0 but he thinks he's the main character doing all that AFTER a buyback.

  • @qvd3533
    @qvd3533 Рік тому +20

    Dota and Lol community are both so disgustingly toxic, i think a 100% of comments here are just shit talking Talon like they could do better, gg to both teams i do not support any but the series was really fun to watch.
    Grow up guys.

    • @yogayuliandana8958
      @yogayuliandana8958 Рік тому

      Bro, its not fun at all to see your fav always doing the same mistake until disband...

    • @xdxdxd59
      @xdxdxd59 Рік тому

      @@yogayuliandana8958 betboom just better

  • @socrates1796
    @socrates1796 Рік тому +14

    Talon really represent SEA server, they win very hard match and manage to lose free game like typichal SEA player

  • @CheeKiatTeo
    @CheeKiatTeo Рік тому +43

    SEA so good at throwing they pick long distance heroes and THEN throw the game. It's the spirit of all SEA servers

    • @iPlayDotaReligiously
      @iPlayDotaReligiously Рік тому +1

      Long distance? U mean ranged?

    • @Doehio
      @Doehio Рік тому

      @@iPlayDotaReligiouslymaybe range hero with attacking range longer than normal range hero

    • @pymrhap
      @pymrhap Рік тому

      @@iPlayDotaReligiously if dark willow is long distance hero then aa ulti will be interplanetary ulti

    • @iPlayDotaReligiously
      @iPlayDotaReligiously Рік тому

      @@pymrhap ikr
      SEA is just a weaker mentality region than others..

    • @pymrhap
      @pymrhap Рік тому

      @@iPlayDotaReligiously the amount of tears that I've shed to finally have a Ti in Singapore and to not have Singaporean players participating *faint*
      And that aside, SEA region is also slowly falling to the last place with SA overtaking *faint twice*

  • @Mat-xw4ww
    @Mat-xw4ww Рік тому +23

    Talon choking on a big stage again, not being patient and wasted on BBs.

  • @likom9813
    @likom9813 Рік тому +82

    nice throw by 23 on willow on 2nd game going up that mid lane and dying when he has no business going up that ramp

    • @onyxblack1167
      @onyxblack1167 Рік тому +4

      Nice throw by the cores... Buy back for no reason.

    • @CurrentlyOffliner
      @CurrentlyOffliner Рік тому +2

      20:30 it looks like fail as a team but i think %90 of it 23savage fault , slow siege was working perfectly willow didn't needed to be so agressive. Hes team basically was forced to follow hes agressive stance.
      23 buybacks so unnecessarily forces jabs to bb as well and just to get 4vs5 , Undying isn't that big of a hero for you to use 2 core buyback and force the issue especilaly without aegis. After they lose the fight and dawnbreaker died , 21:36 hes all team left highground but when they saw 23 still forcing the issue they had to go back and help him. Riki died there and he had to buyback becasue 23 left so late and get caught as a result at 21:53.

    • @lamtran2328
      @lamtran2328 Рік тому +1

      @@CurrentlyOffliner20:30 is not initially 23 fault, 3 of his melee teammate were already in but they have to bail immediately cause of Mueta. 23 fault here is that he didnt turn around and pike out. He just stood there being disarmed by Invoker. He stood for a solid 3s when all of his team got out.

    • @buyung94
      @buyung94 Рік тому

      He's the reverse RTZ

    • @intixxxp2100
      @intixxxp2100 Рік тому

      It usually happens every match, 23 will definitely be movements like that if you watch Talon often

  • @kelz4020
    @kelz4020 Рік тому +24

    mikoto on puck , morph on savage , 2 of their best hero on same draft , what can go wrong?? o yeah jabz picking invoker offlaner lmao , sunbhie shud go

    • @govnina228
      @govnina228 Рік тому

      Agruably Nightfall is the best pl in current dota + pl solos morph and puck

  • @NasiPadangAmpera
    @NasiPadangAmpera Рік тому +10

    Inchoker offlane is pretty common pick in SEA pubs.

  • @katsu-us1tg
    @katsu-us1tg Рік тому +533

    Spoiler block

    • @erebuskaslana1583
      @erebuskaslana1583 Рік тому +5

      Thank you for your hard work

    • @savagemodeii7931
      @savagemodeii7931 Рік тому +1

      No need blud. Its obvious who will win.

    • @qvd3533
      @qvd3533 Рік тому +3

      @@savagemodeii7931 How is it obvious when it was 2-1 and almost a 2-0 for Talon?

    • @savagemodeii7931
      @savagemodeii7931 Рік тому

      @@qvd3533 still an L

    • @qvd3533
      @qvd3533 Рік тому +8

      @@savagemodeii7931 cringy mentality

  • @jewii3824
    @jewii3824 Рік тому +16

    willow carry is gonna be a thing of the past after this TI.

  • @jbart4183
    @jbart4183 Рік тому +7

    Whoever suggested that offlane Invo in game 3 shouldn't allowed to be near dota 2 ever again, such a nonsense pick

  • @MousesEater
    @MousesEater Рік тому +50

    Jabs offlane failure, that rapier drop on morph also joke , as SEA fans, talon deserve to lose this game

    • @iPlayDotaReligiously
      @iPlayDotaReligiously Рік тому +8

      I agree with you. Seems like a weaker mentality.. after losing that game 2, they lose harder on game 3.

    • @socrates1796
      @socrates1796 Рік тому +1

      As SEA fans, they really represent SEA server

  • @armedanddangerous2242
    @armedanddangerous2242 Рік тому +8

    Betboom sent Talon straight to the shadow realm💀.

  • @nanezferrer3565
    @nanezferrer3565 Рік тому +6

    MORPH: I HAVE DIVINE AND BKB
    BARA: YES THANK YOU FOR DIVINE

  • @heavenpiercer5095
    @heavenpiercer5095 Рік тому +14

    Feels good seeing 23 garbage losing and even better seeing him lose using morf and willows.

  • @jackdam5265
    @jackdam5265 Рік тому +4

    Key mistake is 2nd game is 23 going in and using windwaker to save jabs while he has bb and ultimate to come to the fight. Now 23 and jabs need to use bb because they wanted to take advantage of 4x5. Secured win if they had patience just like in game 3, but now it favors BetBoom. SA and SAmerica just have no patience to win the games. So much lead and advantage, yet you want to press high ground issue versus invoked and pudge.

    • @jeromethy
      @jeromethy Рік тому

      this was how LGD got rekt by OG when Ame bought back on terrorblade when he could have just waited.

  • @jj99922
    @jj99922 Рік тому +6

    Giving PL to Nightfall is crazy. He's literally the best PL in the world💀

  • @jerrylee-j9y
    @jerrylee-j9y Рік тому +10

    2nd game 23 savage should be calm down after dead at mid tower there...... Buy back for what 7......

  • @BrunoMattei97
    @BrunoMattei97 Рік тому +11

    Regardless of the flame, Talon had a very good performance, this was one of the best series of games in TI so far in termini of entertainment.

  • @zeno-sama7688
    @zeno-sama7688 Рік тому +8

    Injoker as a pos3 in this meta instead of tanky hero. Ez Jabz

  • @mhk0689
    @mhk0689 Рік тому +8

    IO with deso is so beautiful

  • @mellvinedig5090
    @mellvinedig5090 Рік тому +4

    seeing this 23 plays remind me of combined rtz and ee sama

  • @kowshikmareedu3643
    @kowshikmareedu3643 Рік тому +13

    Throws game 2 in the end, throws game 3 from draft itself

  • @rac8153
    @rac8153 Рік тому +15

    All of NA-SA-SEA diversity teams are finally out (outside of Nouns but they got lucky to only face NA teams). Top EUW vs EUE vs CN will be a great TI. A change from total domination of Europe for the last 3 TI

    • @RafitoOoO
      @RafitoOoO Рік тому +2

      Yeah, Nouns has beaten known NA gamers Tundra lmao.

    • @tarunraghunandan3053
      @tarunraghunandan3053 Рік тому

      Yeah right, if not for this sea team, it would've been gaimin gladiators trashing everyone like every time this year. Be thankful for a bit of change brought in by talon for the upset at least.
      Talon have proved they belong at ti

    • @tuoikien602
      @tuoikien602 Рік тому

      @@RafitoOoO😂😂

    • @noone6896
      @noone6896 Рік тому

      Nouns actually bringed something new/interesting by countering Bristleback with brewmaster... that was one of the creative drafts...

  • @Fishball0423
    @Fishball0423 Рік тому +2

    31:53, Pure buyback and refresher kill puck is a big move

  • @poker3276
    @poker3276 Рік тому +4

    20-Throw Savage. Winner of this of this match wouldn't last long in the tournament anyway.

  • @anwaralexander3035
    @anwaralexander3035 Рік тому +3

    BB have been more consistent and I expected them to win but Talon played damn well excluding that throw game 2.

  • @fine93
    @fine93 Рік тому +7

    they dont call him 23 garbage for nothing DX

  • @sicknature2270
    @sicknature2270 Рік тому +4

    that invoker offlane, what a bad draft.
    didnt expect that jabz will pick invoker instead any tank hero.

  • @jcaddyclips
    @jcaddyclips Рік тому +11

    nice to see 23 fall

  • @RafitoOoO
    @RafitoOoO Рік тому +4

    Talon is a great team, they just need a reliable pos1.

  • @pbyn153
    @pbyn153 Рік тому +2

    8:00 What the hell is the play of 23 here?

    • @Mykola010
      @Mykola010 Рік тому

      322, not the only case. Useless buyback on dark willow after losing on their t3.

    • @nrp9840
      @nrp9840 Рік тому

      23 try to Make a space for mikoto to hit the tower but forgot to pop bkb

    • @melancholy9236
      @melancholy9236 Рік тому

      he try to bait BB to push mid then Buyback

    • @melancholy9236
      @melancholy9236 Рік тому

      nah just kidding

  • @mammamiaesponolmistoria9917
    @mammamiaesponolmistoria9917 Рік тому +7

    Wow talon make me start to believe that many teams throwing because betting money is way more than ti prize pool

    • @llabball
      @llabball Рік тому +1

      They lost but still smiling wtf

    • @flicksanimeverse
      @flicksanimeverse Рік тому +2

      You say that about Tundra but Talon no way 😂

    • @programmer3138
      @programmer3138 Рік тому

      copium

    • @onomatopoeia5540
      @onomatopoeia5540 Рік тому

      They lose coz they are weak. Stop the copium or you meant to say they are title favourites until the copium of excuses come in?😂😂😂

  • @nekoasleep
    @nekoasleep Рік тому +3

    32:26 look at little core junior, wanna cry?

  • @llabball
    @llabball Рік тому +5

    The most undisciplined team in the world.

  • @Nightknight1992
    @Nightknight1992 Рік тому +3

    can anybody in the world explain 11:23??? why would he juke after hes out already xD

    • @franztuzon3162
      @franztuzon3162 Рік тому +1

      @abdurrahim618 not the creep vision but the tomb above planted on the creep wave

    • @Nightknight1992
      @Nightknight1992 Рік тому

      @@franztuzon3162 ahhhhh ye i saw it for a few frames, thanks

  • @aldiriansyahdwi4103
    @aldiriansyahdwi4103 Рік тому +6

    holy shit the game 2 of 23 use eul on db despite himself is on bad positioning really bad decision lol

  • @earthpeace3323
    @earthpeace3323 Рік тому +4

    Talon got cocky and didn't respect BB. That's how u throw a 25k lead and lose game 2.

  • @DailyBikeBliss
    @DailyBikeBliss Рік тому +4

    Pure’s skills are just on top.

  • @mr.t5785
    @mr.t5785 Рік тому +8

    Mikontol want puck mid because there's no hard lockdown on the enemy team so its a free puck game. So they forced to flex invo to jabs. Then mikoto still failed to dominate and jabs invoker didn't do good either. Kekw

  • @verbalwound5874
    @verbalwound5874 Рік тому +4

    23 savage celebrating the end of game 2.

  • @kwamebrownofficial
    @kwamebrownofficial Рік тому +5

    Pure is ripping my cheeks as he goes hard with Pudge dismember. Makes me happy 😊

  • @UNMESupplyandCo
    @UNMESupplyandCo Рік тому +10

    classic 23 over confidence. letsgo do taunting again and lose xD

  • @lunaa2244
    @lunaa2244 Рік тому +2

    willow carry is cursed by lgd and has successfully eliminated 3 teams lol
    what an exhausting series.

  • @HandlesAreStupid2024
    @HandlesAreStupid2024 Рік тому +3

    Game 2 made me never want to see DW pos1 ever again.

  • @guruhmandalaputrasurahman4984
    @guruhmandalaputrasurahman4984 Рік тому +5

    23 savage playing like rambo

  • @camperg8062
    @camperg8062 Рік тому +3

    Jabz and Kuku have the same Logic in picking offlane heroes.

  • @mikhaelemje7166
    @mikhaelemje7166 Рік тому +6

    It's kinda heart breaking cuz if they really sucks( which 23 really is) and they lose it's easily acceptable. But they had such a big advantage on game 2 that when they threw it, as a spectator it felt like your heart just stop beating
    Neither to say, this match is a game of who can throw the hardest, and talon won it lmao (in throwing),

  • @archie7288
    @archie7288 Рік тому +3

    So much throw in both side can't lie but this one makes me anxiety

  • @anpham605
    @anpham605 Рік тому +15

    You can see so much hatred towards Russian and SEA players lol. It was such an explosive series and people blaming the players? If Liquid and GG did the same gameplays, you would only see praising comments...

    • @Steror
      @Steror Рік тому

      Nah, haters gonna hate.

  • @vaultdweller123
    @vaultdweller123 Рік тому +1

    @20:36 23 was 💯 percent in shadow realm but he made mistake by trying to save jabz bec maybe he thought the cooldown for him to use shadow realm again is like 1-2 sec. but unfortunately that was enough to hex him and from that point on they lose 🤦

  • @calmikaze2330
    @calmikaze2330 Рік тому +10

    Best throw ever by Talon in TI history.

  • @aarongui2950
    @aarongui2950 Рік тому +3

    Welcome to Sea Doto, a heaven of Throw

  • @weak5205
    @weak5205 Рік тому +3

    Game 2 was a joke, talon could have win ez if they left their untouchable dw hit the structures, but no, they went all in bkbs to kill undying, dw used windwalker to save db and didnt use his bkb

  • @uglymugsamson3015
    @uglymugsamson3015 Рік тому +6

    those buybacks at the 2nd game was really unnecessary.
    Talong team getting really impatient cost them their TI run.
    Never change SEA, never change 😂

    • @franz8072
      @franz8072 Рік тому +1

      They pulled an "LGD wants this now, LGD wants this now!"

    • @rakhatthenut3815
      @rakhatthenut3815 Рік тому +2

      Throne push was also unnecessary from Betboom in 1st map, so everyone is impatient, doesn't matter which region

    • @A_burger1720
      @A_burger1720 Рік тому

      @@rakhatthenut3815 they want to win before sven falls off against a spec

    • @FuMiO02110
      @FuMiO02110 Рік тому

      ​@@A_burger1720it is still impatient play, like Idk why nightfall have these tendencies to go diving first as a carry, like when they try to gank Roshan at game 1 and Just walk in as Muerta at game 2

  • @johnniehouston1816
    @johnniehouston1816 Рік тому +4

    Storybook ending - BB beats Team Spirit in the finals.

  • @ermeshaze2394
    @ermeshaze2394 Рік тому +2

    this series was insane WTF

  • @davidtoiser6535
    @davidtoiser6535 Рік тому +4

    What a throw on game 2...

  • @Ava_Kabar
    @Ava_Kabar Рік тому +2

    As a SEA player i can confirm invoker offlane is pretty common.

    • @LakadMatatag2702
      @LakadMatatag2702 Рік тому

      Yeah, there is nothing wrong with Invoker offlane but his build was weird. Why spending so much on the useless urn 2? His itemization could be so much more effective.

  • @diiistoryy4682
    @diiistoryy4682 Рік тому +3

    dear lord match 2 was so beautiful ☺

  • @jeromethy
    @jeromethy Рік тому +5

    buys divine to feed it to betboom
    23SAVAGE THE BETBOOM 6TH MAN

  • @kaihhan511
    @kaihhan511 Рік тому +6

    23 never learn anything..smh

  • @kennethbarbarona1328
    @kennethbarbarona1328 Рік тому +7

    Damn I feel like Jabz is one of the most cocky players each in everytime. His been doing this tricksters pick since fnatic days LOL

    • @zo9fg
      @zo9fg Рік тому

      what trickster pick?

    • @borisvanjava9569
      @borisvanjava9569 Рік тому

      he really need to stop with this bullshit offlane off-meta... why he do this in TI ??? fk sake!

    • @pad8941
      @pad8941 Рік тому

      Dude, what if that tricksters pick is something that bring him to TI?

    • @Morisson-nd4lw
      @Morisson-nd4lw Рік тому

      @@pad8941in fact that it’s the one who kicked him out of TI

    • @borisvanjava9569
      @borisvanjava9569 Рік тому

      @@pad8941 hes ald at TI... wdym bruh ???... now hes out.

  • @centrion3234
    @centrion3234 Рік тому

    24:10 mikoto was too offside caught on dead + buyback for nothing, that turn the table and ez win w/o any bb from pos 1 & 2

  • @arthurmorgan3833
    @arthurmorgan3833 Рік тому +1

    Gpk what a player when his not tilted world class performance from him

    • @Tdrnker
      @Tdrnker Рік тому

      so is Ramzes, they are super good but arrogant and tilts so easily

    • @abcdefuuu
      @abcdefuuu Рік тому

      Yeah if gpk- isn’t tilted, he’s easily one of the best mechanically. Nightfall is also becoming such a stable carry lol.

  • @user-ig3oq7ty7m
    @user-ig3oq7ty7m Рік тому +5

    What a throw on game 2, talon had that in the bag. Just constant bad decisions and position when they were sieging. Jabz getting caught, 23 deciding to save him and then Mikoto blinking in without any back up. These guys are good but their decision making is just bad and they're supposed to be the kings of late game.
    Then there's game 3, you could see that they're done. 23's morph was supposed to be the best but he doesn't know how to play as Bara. I counted 2x where he could've saved himself by charging out but instead he charges an enemy hero that's right in front of him.

  • @ataktewoyanchannel
    @ataktewoyanchannel Рік тому +7

    Why pick invoker offlane🤣

  • @seansaul7331
    @seansaul7331 Рік тому +9

    23 is just sooo bad.. got carried every game.. decision making so poor.. tf

    • @kise7169
      @kise7169 Рік тому

      he farm so well, yet they are bad decisions from him.

    • @Doehio
      @Doehio Рік тому +2

      @@kise7169 just like rtz?

    • @jaysonaarontan8752
      @jaysonaarontan8752 Рік тому

      Exactly my thoughts!

    • @socrates1796
      @socrates1796 Рік тому

      ​@@DoehioRTZ are wors, at least 23 can nake a good play out of it, just not consistent.
      Meanwhile rtz is consistent, consintently poor

  • @mercadorodriguezgerson3549
    @mercadorodriguezgerson3549 Рік тому +5

    Willow is just absolutely unfair....

  • @4lm4fu3rt3
    @4lm4fu3rt3 Рік тому +3

    what happened to sunsfan?

  • @kurumi2159
    @kurumi2159 Рік тому +2

    In game 3 Talon doesnt have the endurance to withstand taking damages. They really picked invoker puck 😂. How could morphling find an opening when theres no single tanker that initiate the fight? Even 1 primal beast should be good or leshrac smh

  • @camperg8062
    @camperg8062 Рік тому

    32:26 this game is nothing to this kid. He still doesn't realize the opportunity he wasted and threw. 23 = EE

  • @meeu
    @meeu Рік тому +11

    those unnecessary buybacks in game 2 lost them this series.

  • @antonioyonatan4704
    @antonioyonatan4704 Рік тому +6

    this is what you got for throwing, deserved

  • @elmardelacruz4741
    @elmardelacruz4741 Рік тому +3

    its ok 23 you already won in ti of eva elfies heart

  • @flicksanimeverse
    @flicksanimeverse Рік тому +2

    What happened to the Morph King.

  • @delta9thailand
    @delta9thailand Рік тому +5

    Sad for talon next time will be better

  • @Standin.Fallen
    @Standin.Fallen Рік тому +1

    early celebration to early airport

  • @Poyson-cy6kj
    @Poyson-cy6kj Рік тому +4

    Talong game 2 secured but too greedy and cocky. Deserving loss

    • @someguyonyt2831
      @someguyonyt2831 Рік тому +5

      That's a SEA player in a nutshell. Almost always cocky when got the lead and that's their downfall.

  • @peacefulmind.exmuslim
    @peacefulmind.exmuslim Рік тому +1

    Pos 3 Exort Midas Invoker with losing MID vs 3 Midas

  • @羊羹-b9r
    @羊羹-b9r Рік тому +4

    After losing at TI,
    Everyone: crying and desperate
    23: casually checking giftbox seeing his payment arrived or not

  • @ParkQusir
    @ParkQusir Рік тому +1

    23 need a better call when fighting, his decision changed the game (in a bad way)

  • @gubitiful
    @gubitiful Рік тому

    The 3 cores of BetBoom are so freaking good holy shit

  • @CeruleanEyesOfWind
    @CeruleanEyesOfWind Рік тому +5

    Lmao nice throw by talon it made me laugh so hard

  • @super_hero2
    @super_hero2 Рік тому +1

    these range heroes damage are so ridiculous compare to sniper and drow ranger.

  • @oliviawallace3636
    @oliviawallace3636 Рік тому +1

    Man talon had it bro, the tea eye nerves...

  • @Heli0usS
    @Heli0usS Рік тому +4

    cis destroying this year, so glad

    • @ilearntohate
      @ilearntohate Рік тому

      CIS is really just a virtual thing, better say post-Soviet countries (CIS never worked cause most countries were too nationalistic and Russia too dominant, esp. after beginning of Putin's dictatorship)

  • @vaundy736
    @vaundy736 Рік тому +2

    hold rapiers for only < 1 minute,
    twice XD

  • @binosworld3896
    @binosworld3896 Рік тому +6

    lol game 2 buybacks just gave it away

  • @Mykola010
    @Mykola010 Рік тому +4

    322 Talon, multiple buybacks on the second map for nothing when having an advantage of 13k. 23 was really bad all three games, especially on spectre

  • @kennethdeguzman9497
    @kennethdeguzman9497 Рік тому +2

    how come the kick of earth spirit is like a vector? he can kick in any angle please enlighten me

    • @mst-4898
      @mst-4898 Рік тому +1

      Its not vector, its point targetted and works in 2 ways,
      1) Point clicking the unit just kicks it in the direction earth spirit faces
      2) When you click on one direction earth spirit will kick whatever is closest to him or within the selection radius towards the direction you clicked, prioritising stone remnants if they are within this selection radius.
      ps: its kinda bugged when there's no stones, you have to spam click in a direction for it to select creeps to kick.

  • @borisvanjava9569
    @borisvanjava9569 Рік тому +1

    GAME 3. how can you not banning BARATUM! this hero is unreal. you either pick or ban it. theres no in between.

  • @tanvirkabir9428
    @tanvirkabir9428 Рік тому +1

    best fucking series ever

  • @jackthebeetle7981
    @jackthebeetle7981 Рік тому +2

    23 fans lose the bet and is crying hard right now 😭😭😭😭

  • @LMAO-zi7xe
    @LMAO-zi7xe Рік тому +3

    Mikoto deserves a team like high tier team

    • @nightcity8045
      @nightcity8045 Рік тому

      Like fountain diving team? Ye

    • @Kiwibacon619
      @Kiwibacon619 Рік тому +6

      Mikota didnt play particularly well this series....

    • @mr.t5785
      @mr.t5785 Рік тому +1

      Yes like an all indo team. Oh wait,, that happened before with boom and at their best they were mediocre. I can see why mikoto wants to play with Thais.

    • @sanctimoniusdisowned3698
      @sanctimoniusdisowned3698 Рік тому

      MikoDog dont played well here tbh....

  • @decromanger28
    @decromanger28 Рік тому +6

    23 choked real hard on this series.

  • @zeno-sama7688
    @zeno-sama7688 Рік тому +3

    Jabz is stupid picking invoker as an offlane this meta offlane is must be tanker. Ez dog jabz

  • @lookielooks7645
    @lookielooks7645 Рік тому +8

    322 savage

  • @voidivy6988
    @voidivy6988 Рік тому +3

    Pure hook in game 2 is soo good

    • @Fishball0423
      @Fishball0423 Рік тому

      not only about hook, the position and the moment of him jump in initiate

    • @voidivy6988
      @voidivy6988 Рік тому

      @@Fishball0423 yeah you right his positioning is really good to

  • @nguyenthehien2149
    @nguyenthehien2149 Рік тому +4

    Talon will be sleepless for one month because of these throws