Eight Sleep Pod 3 Review: Thoughts on the Pod 3 Cover After 400 Nights of Sleep
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- My link for $200 off: eight-sleep.ioym.net/2rqEoO
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Pod 2 Review (from last year): • Eight Sleep Pod 2 Cove...
^ I made my Pod 2 review private because it has a lot of the same content as this Pod 3 review. The link is here for transparency, but it's probably not worth watching!
Summary:
I was initially hesitant to try Eight Sleep due to their annoying fake discounts and email marketing tactics. The lack of real reviews on the internet was concerning too. However, I eventually decided to purchase the Pod 2 Cover and loved it. After sleeping on it for eight months, I bought the Pod 3 Cover because my previous video of the Pod 2 had been well received.
After more than a year of using an Eight Sleep cover, sleeping on a non-cooled mattress is now something that I don’t look forward to. However, I recognize that it's a luxury purchase and not for everyone, as it's quite expensive and there are concerns about its longevity. Overall, I think it's a risk worth taking for those who are often uncomfortable at night or have different temperature preferences than their partner.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:12 Buy #1 - Temperature Control
3:46 Buy #2 - Improved Sleep
5:40 Buy #3 - Sleep Tracking
6:47 Buy #4- Alarm
7:24 Don’t Buy #1 - Expensive
8:05 Standard Subscription
9:03 Pro Subscription
9:25 Don’t Buy #2 - Longevity
11:04 Don’t Buy #3 - Comfort
12:25 Who is this for?
12:56 Disclosure
Disclosure:
When I made my Pod 2 review, I had no relationship with Eight Sleep. I added the universal “refer a friend” link (from inside the Eight Sleep app) to the description. Eventually, Eight Sleep reached out because they liked my review and wanted me to join their official affiliate program.
I joined their program under two conditions:
- I won’t change or tweak content to their liking.
- I won’t accept free products and will continue to buy all products my videos.
If you enjoyed this video, I’d appreciate it if you used one of my links. By doing so, if you buy an Eight Sleep Pod Cover, you’ll save $200, and I’ll earn a commission from Eight Sleep. It’s a win-win. But to be upfront, there’s nothing special with my discount specifically-it can be found from someone else with a quick Google search. I won’t be offended if you don’t use it, but I will appreciate it if you do. - Наука та технологія
Was considering it but putting 90% of features behind a paywall is a disgusting move that makes me not want to support such a company.
Just going to wait a year or 2 and the prices will likely drop and quality/reliability increase due to competition. Early adopter items are rarely worth due to abnormally large prices where the company is trying to cash in before other players enter the market and force their margins down.
Great review by the way!
This video is just two months old, but unfortunately, Eight Sleep recently put the majority of its features behind the paywall. The Pro ($180/year) subscription is mandatory for the first year of ownership, which works out to an additional $900, assuming five years of ownership.
The good news? You can cancel the subscription after the first year. The bad news? You'll only get one feature: manual temperature control. Sleep and health tracking metrics, along with the vibration alarm, and the scheduled heating and cooling are all disabled.
Can you get by without a subscription? Maybe! But remembering to turn on the Pod each night before bedtime, and to turn it off in the morning, might be challenging. Plus, you’ll miss out on the alarm and sleep tracking too.
Subscriptions for fitness gear aren’t new, but I still hate this move! I’d rather pay more upfront for something and truly own it. I currently pay $44/month for the privilege to ride my Peloton, but it's the primary reason why I no longer own an Oura Ring or Whoop. That being said, I’d rather see Eight Sleep do this to survive if the alternative is disappearing.
I’m grandfathered in and have the Eight Sleep free for life, but if I were a first-time buyer again, I’d likely still buy the Pod 3 and reluctantly subscribe to the Pro plan ($180/year) to get the sleep tracking.
However, I think the subscription will rightfully dissuade a lot of people from pulling the trigger.
If you do buy one, here’s my link for $300 off: eight-sleep.ioym.net/2rqEoO
Yeah, that's a pretty insane cost of ownership. Not only do you have to fork over $2100 for just the cover and the pump, you also need to give them $120/year to use what you already paid out the ass for. If the company goes under and/or the app is taken down, you now have a $2100 brick.
Wow, man, what a cash grab for such great product...
Just wanna clarify is the product in this video the pod 3 or the pod 3 cover?
@@chih-weichang4995 the cover is what I have. But it’s the same thing as the Eight Sleep mattress set. Like the same cover just goes on top of Eight Sleep’s branded mattress. There’s nothing special about the actual mattress.
I see thank you this is really helpful. I’ve been always confused by what’s the difference between the pod and the cover. Do you feel your mattress beneath the pod cover though? Like whether the mattress below is good or bad would that affect the overall comfort or the pod cover basically dictates the feeling?
High price and added subscription sounds pretty bad to be honest
If it adds to sleep quality especially REM then its worth tens of thousands. Such good quality of sleep can add years to your life
@@zandercerlong7238 Thats a big IF. They would have to scientifically prove its working to convince me. So far they don't
@@TheRealWurstCase right one would have to get it on a trial run as they have a money back return policy each person would have to determine that for themselves as even if one person got much better sleep doesn’t mean another will
The subscription is predatory as fuck. How could it possibly be worth 180 a year just for the software.
@@lancestevenson9523it is not worth it is superinflated price. Software is not individually made it is made for everyone at the same time so it must be cheap to use, not expensive as such 200+usd lol
It's awesome to see you back at it. Great review!
Thanks for watching!
Great review Cam, as usual, on so many levels!
Affiliate association handled beautifully... integrity through and through, and if I was going to buy one I would *gladly* give YOU the credit!
Appreciate it!
Awesome video! I was about to buy but I'm totally not into the 'membership' fees. That's a no go for me despite the great concept and your vid just saved me a whole lotta frustration. Thank you!
Your reviews of this product are great and you earned my sub!!
Thank you!
Thanks for the review. It helped with my decision. 👍
That subscription is a ridiculous cash grab for the auto temp adjustment.
You’re really good at this reviews!
Thanks!
Thanks for the review and thorough testing. I am getting the pod 3 and mattress because I would rather try this than long term use of sleeping pills (I am going through menopause and my family has a history of alzheimers and dementia). New subscriber here.
Thanks for watching and good luck!
Excellent review and thanks for the affiliate link!
Thanks for watching!
We just made the purchase with your code. Thanks
Wow, thanks! I hope you like it!
Great video. I was ready to pull the trigger on this, as it sounds perfect for me. But suddenly rolling a bunch of standard features behind a paywall for an already premium product just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. As much as I'd love to try it out, I can't support a company that makes moves like that. Either Eight Sleep feels like they can squeeze more cash out of potential buyers, or they're hemorrhaging money themselves and are scrambling to stay afloat. Either way, it's a huge red flag and I'm really sad to see that.
All fair points. My guess is young VC backed startup and fighting to stay alive.
Did you decide to go with another similar product instead? I feel the exact way. Was so excited for this.
Good review
I would 100% buy one if it wasnt for the subscription. Disgusting practice considering the price of the unit.
Over 2k for the product and then they charge you either $15 or $24 a month for the app.
I love this guys honesty and his reviews are great, so I’m not knocking him. But the monthly/yearly fee after spending over $2k is robbery.
Intuitively, it seems like Eight Sleep will run out of customers pretty quickly at the current price plus subscription. But that's the beauty of the free market, it'll decide for them.
@@power_moves I know for a fact myself and 12 of my extended family members would have been customers, but won’t be because of their stupid subscription model. We just discussed it over dinner. Hopefully you gain a few more subscribers. I appreciate your honest reviews mate 👍🏻
@@DrDudelidge I appreciate it!
@@DrDudelidge Same here. Hope they change their pricing model soon, because we will not purchase an eight sleep before they drop the fckn subscription
Really nice review. I heard about Eight Sleep and was intrigued, so I did a UA-cam search. I ran across a bunch of reviews that didn't tell me anything useful beyond reading the spec sheet. I felt you covered all the bases. I won't be getting one.
I appreciate it!
Best review so far out of 13 videos.
How much energy does it use ? I plan on doing solar power.
Also side question. Have you ever found a good weighted sheet for very hot summers ? Ie. I thought about chain mail. But I think it might shift too much without being tapered down in some way. Weather stitched to some good bamboo sheet or elastic cords tethering it to bead. Any suggestions ??
Subbed.. Love knowing you're expertise.
I have no idea how much energy it uses in a practical sense, but here's what it says on the back "Input: 110-240V AC 50-60hz, 300W"
@@power_moves I'm assuming you cant tell if its idle or running !? No sound or vibration. Ie if it runs for 15 sec every hour.
@@frankenstein3163 It's a constant and subtle hum sound throughout the whole night.
@@power_moves good to know ty.. now I can do the math :)
Great review. Wow. They just seem money grabbing now. Expensive as hell and now this paywall? Doesn't bode well for futher restrictions. One big question which no reviews seem to talk much about is noise. How noisy is it? Also can the unit go at the foot of the bed rather than near your head? That presumably would make a massive difference?
I kept the hub under my bed (using a high-up bed frame) and never heard it running once. I've since switched to a new bed and have the hub on the far side of my nightstand now. It's a noticeable, but subtle hum. It should be possible to put it as the foot of the bed. Here are the lengths of the hose from the hub:
Queen and Full 93"
King 101"
Cali King 99"
I like my 8 sleep too, my main complaint is the feeling of the mattress pad when you sit or move around on the bed. It's hard to get rid of the vinyl plastic feeling. Currently on an original Ghost mattress.
Pod 2 or Pod 3? And how old is it?
@@power_moves I have the Pod 3 now. I originally bought the pod 2 but returned and 'upgraded' to the pod 3 for a couple hundo more. I'm hoping to find some kind of topper that's doesn't screw with the sensors. I prefer a cool bed like you, and was waking up sweaty before. Any sheets / covers / topper you recommend?
I'm content just with my regular sheets. But I'd say I definitely prefer a mattress on the firmer side, which is probably where we differ.
4:48 I've heard wrist trackers like the apple watch are less accurate than a ring tracker. In fact sleep tracking devices will all say slightly different data than each other. As in if you use 4 sleep trackers at once, in the morning their data can vary a lot from each other
Apple Watch is surprisingly accurate compared to medical grade devices. Here's my source: ua-cam.com/video/LPqtfC70QTU/v-deo.html
But yeah, sleep data will always differ and be kind of random.
If the manual temperature control is only 1 set temperature throughout the night then it's bad news and definitely will affect your sleep. I have been using the Oura ring for 4 years along with the Chilipad Ooler for 3 years and I know you'll need different temperature settings throughout the night.
In our first stage of deep sleep (within the first 3-4 hours) most people would sleep better at a colder temperature. But in the 2nd half cycle (3-4 hours before we wake up) we're usually in REM sleep stage. In this stage, there is rapid eye movement and more vivid dreaming. Our body is more sensitive to light, noise, and temperature...all these things are even more sensitive the older you are (that's why a lot of people wake up at 3 - 4am).
The ideal temperature for REM phase is usually recommended to be a few degrees close to ambient room temperature. Our body temp will naturally increase during that time to cut off melatonin production for us to wake up gradually. Thanks for sharing such an honest review!
Our body's should be able to self-regulate our own temperature with a static temp of the bed, no? Humans have for more than 100,000 years. You may be right, and Eight Sleep would agree with you, but it seems like pseudo-science to me to justify extra features. I'm a simple man, I just like a cool bed.
Great review. Question: My mattress is only 8" thick, will I be able to use the Pod 3 cover? Wondering if I could just tighten the straps to keep it snug.
I'm not 100%, but I'd lean towards no. As I'm sure you've seen, the minimum spec requirement is 10". My worry would be that the encasement cover zipper would be under your bed. Watch this (ua-cam.com/video/6PbQQnrGI30/v-deo.html) at around the 20 second mark.
@@power_moves that's what I was thinking too. Do you think I could solve with adding mattress topper below the encasement? I'm thinking a 3-4" memory foam topper could do the trick, to account for compression from the encasement. My bed was pretty firm anyway and I was already worried that the eightsleep topper would push it over the edge.
Seems like a very reasonable plan to me, but don't hold me to it!
Looks like you're stuck with the 8+pro membership for one year. Question...If you cancel the 8+pro membership after 1 year is there only 1 manual temp setting for the night or can you input several temps throughout the night?
It should be one temp for the whole night in manual mode. But I've never tested it.
@@power_moves Thanks. Would buy one tomorrow but the extra $20 a month is ridiculous.
I see that the cover is always for big matresses only. I have 2 separate matresses 90x200cm. Is it still possible to use the cover over both of them? I guess the setup could be bit harder.
I don't think that'd be a smart idea. Sounds messy!
I've used it for 8 days and for me, it's not worth it. I find my settings are set all within the "neutral" range and it has not really helped my sleep at all. If anything, it's made it worse due to changing the comfort of my mattress. Still waiting for them to get back to me on returning the device. They answered once, but now 3 days with no response.
I think for people who genuinely like a cold or hot bed, this is a very well made product. For those who like a neutral bed, a quality mattress that sleeps neutral is a better option.
Ironically, a lot of the "hot" mattress is due to the use of memory foam in many beds. Sleep on Latex or an old school inner coil mattress and you will find that heat is not really much of an issue for most.
Well said! I hope they get back to you soon.
Hello how elastic or how much give would you say is in the 8sleep cover? My mattress is 78 inches by 66 inches . A US queen size 8sleep cover is 80 inches by 60 inches. Wondering if I can squeeze my mattress into the cover because I really like my current mattress.
The cover might zip up fully depending on your mattress' thickness, but it wouldn't be ideal because you'd have two inches on each side of the mattress without coils.
@@power_moves thanks for the info !
Do you need to sleep on your back/front for it to work effectively or would it work fine for people who sleep on their side?
I sleep on my side for about 75% of the night as a reference. So I'd say it doesn't really matter.
Taking the alarm feature away without subscription is a tasteless move imo.
I would consider buying it but the subscription thing puts me off
Really have no clue about the product as it never was used. Have a friend who loves hers and we thought to give it a try. 2 boxes arrived, both significantly damaged. Could not contact customer service by phone or chat but 24 hrs after received email response to our request for a replacement shipment. After 10 days and several delayed responses "working on it" a second service rep said no replacement order was ever issued. At which point we cancelled the order. Now have waited 48 hours for return instructions; no response to phone, chat, email. Maybe the product is okay, but customer service so poor I cannot recommend Eight Sleep.
The Pod 2 Cover experienced several problems. I had to replace the cover twice, and the second replacement cost $500 due to a sensor failure. Eight Sleep subsequently replaced it with the Pod 3 cover.
Any issues with your Pod 3?
@@power_moves I have not received the cover yet but will let you know.
great review but they raised prices plus you are required to purchase a membership. i can understand the price hike but it's a hard pass because of the forced membership.
Fair take!
Just curious, does the unit generate heat when cooling the mattress cover?
Not enough to heat up your room, if that's what you're asking.
@@power_moves thanks for your reply! That was an issue I would have with the Ooler at times is that it would raise the ambient temperature of the room to the point the unit couldn’t efficiently cool the cover anymore. Was just curious if this had a similar problem or not.
I still have my bedjet and it work well for me.
I still haven't tried Bedjet yet!
@@power_moves yeah I decided to get it 2 years ago because I have a tempur pedic mattress. I sleep hot 🥵! It works well. However, it does require for me to keep my house at a cool temp (70) for it push out cool air. I like to sleep with blankets so it help keep me cool under the blankets
@@IdeaMusicKen I'll have to look into it more.
@@power_moves are cooking coils noticeable with a sheet on the bed. I wonder how it is with a memory foam mattress. I been looking for review that included that mattress so I buy one for my vacation home.
@@IdeaMusicKen see my commentary on the comfort @ 11:03
Tremendous review (better than any other and I’ve tried to view them all). I’ve had my Pod 3 for a month. When I first got it, the Sleep Hub would not connect with my wi-fi. After an hour on the phone with Tech Support they still couldn’t resolve it so they sent a new Hub with a return label for the old Hub. The new one worked the first time.
I’ve had an Oura ring for a year and a sleep ring called RingConn (similar to Oura but no subscription fee). My main concern at the moment is with Deep Sleep. With Oura it has been really low (as little as 2 minutes after 8 hours of sleep!). With the Pod 3 I have seen the following significant improvement in my sleep: much higher Deep Sleep (last night, for example, for the first time in a year, I had more Deep Sleep than REM); far less movement during sleep; more consistent breathing and definitely higher HRV. The Pro Subscription is a downer but I’ll re-evaluate next year. Overall, I couldn’t be happier (but I should disclose I saved a thousand dollars and it had nothing to do with a review or anything like that).
I appreciate the kind words! How’d you save that much if you don’t mind me asking?
The subscription is just ridiculous. They now even sell Plus membership at $24 per month! But on the plus side, you get 10 years of warranty. 😤😤😤😤 such a low move for a high end mattress.
Yeah well, that subscription price is just too greedy. I was just about to buy one, but the subscription price is just too high.
It might not be worth the money to you, but I can't agree on greedy. It's likely, in the current high interest rate world, the only way for Eight Sleep to survive and create a sustainable business is to charge $3k for their Pod (Pod + five year subscription cost). Many startups are getting crushed due to economical landscape.
The thing that really sucks is that Eight Sleep anchored people's minds with a $2k price, so now anything more seems outrageous.
I was in until i saw this subscription 😂 forget it
Wait, it’s not optional anyone? You’re the second person to say something.
@@power_moves It's not optional anymore. You HAVE to buy a 1 year membership ($180) to purchase the hardware. They automatically add it to your cart and you can't remove it. I asked customer service if there is any way to purchase without the membership; they said no, but I can cancel after ONE YEAR and continue with the regular membership then. Crazy.
Imagine buy a thing that its expensive as hell an then you have to pay a subscription to use the features of your device, your review is great but is really discouraging seeng this greedy move, doesn't make any sense to me
I chose to use your referral instead of all the big influencers that bullshit their audience. Thanks!
I appreciate it!
i think this needs a lifetime warranty for a purchase from any normal person... it doesn't seem like they have much confidence in their own product.. the mouse i'm using right now has a longer warranty.... also what if they go out of business? what if they shut down the servers for their app? is there any way to control the unit manually at all? i really need something like this due to my living situation but there's just too many caveats...
The $24/month subscription gets you a lifetime warranty, but like you mentioned, that doesn't do much good if they go out of business. There are definitely way more downsides to the Pod than upsides, but funny enough, for me, Eight Sleep nails the cool mattress part so well that the downsides are worth living with.
wish they did a pillow..everyone loves a cold pillow surly..✌️
I'm with you! Eight Sleep sells a "Carbon Air Pillow," but it's a very overpriced and mediocre pillow that definitely doesn't stay cool like the bed does.
Didn't cover how noisy the pump is, which is the single biggest question i would have about this product.
It’s a subtle hum. I would’ve covered it if it was annoying.
Another advertisement lol eight is killing it
What don’t you like about your Eight Sleep?
it looks like Chili Sleep/Sleep Me is going out of business so this is the only other viable option. Bed jet seems like a great idea but probably poor in execution. idk. i haven’t looked too much into that. but for someone who gets overheated fast, gotta bite the bullet on an 8 sleep
So what about women with hot 🥵 flashes and night sweats
Just turn the dial down to cool the bed when you feel like that. The autopilot feature might help you do it automatically too.
Overpriced rubbish you dont need
To finniky and fussy with to many negative points to be truly worth the massive price... Who wants a subscription who wants a humming box by the bed... I go to sleep to get away from all this kind of thing.... Hydrogen peroxide in my bed great idea...... Needs a bit more work and no subscription.... Good idea but to soon to adopt it
I don’t really disagree. Just an early adopters’ tax. It won’t be for everyone.
Monthly subscription? No thanks.
How the hell can your girl complain about being too cold? Just use more sheets and pillows and wear a nightie.
On the other side, there is nothing you can do to reduce heat except using AC. (or obviously this 2500 usd 8 sleep badboy, to wich I really hope your girl gave you at least a little bit of money)
I'm with you a million percent. It makes no sense. Too cold? Get more blankets.
Interviewed with 8 Sleep was more than qualified for the job even though it was low-paying. I'm a certified clinical sleep educator. Made it through 9 interviews. Entire company was essentially CEO worship and as soon as I met with the CEI was clear he was not interested in me because of my weight. He kept stressing it was a fitness company and that someone would need to be a "representative" of that. Definitely would not recommend if you choose to spend your money with reputable people.
this sounded great until you told me it was 2k for a bed cover WHO BUYS THAT SHIT BRO