NOVA - Mind of a Serial Killer (1992)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Fair warning - the annoying horizontal lines on the lower portion of the screen never completely go away.
If you're bothered by this, close your eyes, sit back and let Patrick Stewart's voice guide you through this glimpse into the FBI's profiling unit. That's also good advice for anyone squeamish about crime scene photos.
The usual rogue's gallery of murderers is shown on screen but most of the focus is on a combined effort by law enforcement to solve a particular string of serial killings in Rochester, NY; crimes committed by a man we now know to be Arthur Shawcross.
Individuals also warranting more than a cursory look are Wayne Williams, David Berkowitz and 9-year-old rape/murder victim Christine Jessop.
FYI - John Douglas makes much of the fact that Christine's killer played the clarinet and that this fact was key to the case but that was then and this is now.
The wrong man was convicted and spent 18 months in prison until DNA evidence exonerated Guy Paul Morin in 1995.
The profile was correct, however, in determining that the killer was known to Christine. Calvin Hoover was a friend of the Jessop family. Hoover killed himself in 2015 - five years before genetic genealogy identified him as Christine's killer.
On screen interviews are with:
FBI Special Agent James A. Wright, FBI Special Agent John Douglas, FBI Special Agent Judson M. Ray, Rochester CID Captain Lynde M Johnston, Rochester Police Officer Robert Garland, FBI Special Agent Gregg O. McCrary, Rochester Police Lt. Leonard Borriello, Rochester sex worker and eye witness Joanne Van Nostrand, Forensic Psychiatrist Park Dietz, M.D., Ph.D, Dr. Dorothy Otnow Lewis from Bellevue Hospital, NY State Police Inspector John P. McCaffrey, NY State Police Inspector Dennis Blythe and Rochester Prosecutor Charles J. Siragusa.
Old school documentaries are the best! Made with a heart in the project.
Even the resolution of the camera makes it so joyful to watch
I think the appeal of old documentaries is that there is *no* heart in the subject, but rather there is a lot of brain in the subject. They're far more objective, and less sensationalistic.
Christine Jessop's investigation was a travesty, leading to wrongful conviction, later vacated for cause. Later the real murderer was found after his death, through family genealogy. He was a family friend that Jessop had visited in the days before her death. For some reason, he was never interviewed. His wife was shallowly interviewed by police. Obviously, police interviewers became trapped by 'stranger danger'.
Most serial killers and mass shooters have very poor relationships with the significant women (mothers) in their lives. Often they are the first victims. These killers look for social power coming from contesting with the police, and terrifying the public.
@@josephbolton5199ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON
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Agreed! Also, they don’t treat adults like kids and censor everything.
I read Mindhunter by John Douglas...I highly recommend this book. It's amazing how this group of specialists are so accurate in their descriptions of these monsters. Thanks for the nostalgia of this film. Miss the 70s through to the 90s.
Favorite author, read all his books. Dude is fascinating
It's amazing how accurate they were in describing the Beltway Sniper suspects as white supremacist.
Dave McGowan, Programmed to Kill is the real deal
Hi Linda. I watched the Netflix show " Mindhunters" based on the origin of the Behavioral Science( now Analysis) Unit of the FBI. Great show. For some reason it only went 2 seasons, and they pulled the plug on it unfortunately. If it is still on there, I recommend it. Very interesting and directed in a really unique way. I believe they were building up to BTK, because every episode begins with a quick look at him building up, escalating to the real horror coming to so many women.
@@gib59er56 great show. I don’t watch a lot of new tv but glad I caught this. Fantastic acting all round. Thought Kemper, Speck, and particularly the guy who played BTK, were brilliant. They pulled the show because the costs of the shows didn’t equate to the viewing figures, which is a real shame.
These old documentaries bring such a feeling of nostalgia. I so badly miss the 80's and 90's and to know we will never be that way again makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe bc things are so bad and ppl are so overly sensitive nowadays
Nah, there's nothing "overly sensitive" about you at all being "sick to your stomach" and seeing nothing but how "bad it is nowadays"....
@@nicolasrose3064 lmfao
@@nicolasrose3064 it only affects these people that way if they invite that PC garbage into their lives and let it take over every aspect of their lives.
@@nicolasrose3064Being sick to your stomach after observing society, as a whole, delve into pure idiocy isn't being overly sensitive, it's being observant.
People like you, ones that devolve into circular logic.
Yes, it’s sick that things will never be the same again! Nothing can be said anymore, or someone’s feelings will be hurt 😢. Good gravy this hypersensitivity is out of control! We Can’t be funny or tell jokes anymore etc... laughing is an emotion that helps people relax and have fun. Everything has to be serious for Hypersensitive people!
Holy cow! I did an internship for NOVA just a few years after this came out. It was hands down one of the most amazing experiences of my life!!
@Gentry Fry BVIAS 😅🤣
How did you land that internship? That would have been a great thing to experience.
@@aleafox1675 It really was a truly amazing experience; definitely a life-changing thing for me.
I got it through a weird fluke- a college friend of one of my siblings who worked for Nova at the time knew from speaking to my sibling that I was looking for a research internship in the medical/psychology history field in Boston, and so they contacted me and asked if I wanted to apply. It turned out to be *exactly* what I was looking for, and ended up being an amazing summer!! I got a Harvard library systems card (which normally cost about $25,000 for Harvard alumni) with the internship, and being a massive geek I spent all my free time happily reading 200yo texts. I'll never forget the smell of the historic book rooms... sigh.
@@maneckineckbeard1749 road
😢sorry I didn't see this until now.
Releasing Shawcross was a mammoth mistake. Whoever decided on that wasn’t worthy. This is how documentaries should be made.
Indeed. Like releasing Edmund Kemper who had murdered his grandparents when he was 15 years old. At 21, he's "rehabilitated". Let's release him! What could possibly go wrong? 😮
Silly people!! This documentary is _ancient,_ back in the time before the “Truth in Sentencing” movement. When Shawcross was convicted the first time, the thinking about criminality in this country was that criminals could be rehabilitated; unfortunately, nobody was interested in providing funds with which to provide rehabilitation services. You heard that Shawcross went before his Parole Board 8 times, so it wasn’t as though people on the Board weren’t paying attention or doing their jobs….they tried to keep him inside as long as they could, but the reality is, the trend was to release inmates early, even for their first violent crime. Over time, more research was done on criminal behavior and victims rights’ programs began to be very powerful, complaining that murderers and rapists were being paroled long before their sentences were up, and outrageous cases like Shawcross’ were used to get laws changed. This is why a life sentence IS a life sentence, and judges may not give independent sentences anymore. Parole Boards are pretty much a thing of the past, but those that survive use greatly tightened up procedures. So, you can see that in some ways the Justice System has made progress. Now, if they’d only pay attention to reams of studies proving that sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated.
15 yrs for molesting and killing 2 children. How could they let him out early? These parole boards need to start being held accountable
HOW did this guy not come up during the investigation, you'd think they would check out every murderer and sex offender from Buffalo to Syracuse???
@@cookman2k I used to see him eating breakfast in the hospital cafeteria where I was a nurse. He lived in an apartment across the street. When I went in to work I would stop in the cafeteria and grab my coffee before heading up to my floor. He always say next to the window watching the nurses enter the building. When they arrested him and I saw his picture on the news I said Holy sh*t!
Shawcross killed two children and yet they let him out on parole!?!? What is wrong with our society?
they like psychos on the streets... edmund kemper killed his parents or grandparents... cant remember which... and was released later to kill again
@@VintageYakyu💀
Disgusting right!
It’s the liberal way. I guess that would be Democrats in usa. Most of those making these liberal laws are unaffected by the results because they live in ivory towers. That woman defence psychiatrist witness is a prime example of a liberal from the ivory tower.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Douglas should NOT be too victorious about "finding" Jessop's killer because ALL law enforcement was wrong about him; they had tunnel vision on the local "weirdo," because he played an instrument and was a beekeeper. DNA eventually proved it was someone else.
Yep. That didn't age well.!
Yea, just like they are all wrong about Berkowitz. Everything that was said is now proven to be dead wrong.
Profiling is just a tool. The police and prosecutors not the FBI are responsible for the mess up. Calvin Hoover was within the Jessop’s social circle just as predicted by Douglas.
“As someone within the Jessop family’s social circle, Calvin Hoover should have been “identified early on as someone else deserving of close police scrutiny,” Innocence Canada said in a statement Monday.”
“The failure to home in on him and closely examine his alibi for the day of Christine’s abduction… has led to decades of indescribable agony for Mr. Morin and his family, and for the Jessop family.”
@@davidmc8475 In this case, this tool reinforced the cops' tunnel vision. Their notes read like that of a high school bully, if I remember the reporting right. The guy was a nerd, and a little weird, so "I like him for it." They literally used his playing the clarinet and beekeeping against him, probably not in court, but as part of their reasoning.
If this is the case, the tool should be treated less like a slam dunk.
@@jimboc7249 And the fact that Arthur Shawcross, who'd been released from prison for a double sexual killing of two children, wasn't already on the cops' radar speaks to their ineptitude. I mean, come on! They had a sex worker tipping them off about a john who wanted her to act dead for sex, they had a double child-killer released from prison and living in the area. How the hell was he NOT in their sights very early on?!
This uploader has provided us with absolute gold.
"Gold, Jerry! Gold!"
I enjoy the VCR tracking lines at the bottom and i enjoy anything affiliated with Picard.
Thank you foe uploading this 🙆♂️
Lol You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Good call! I thought I recognized that voice.
Oh yeah the old tracking button. The good old days. A little tweek and that screen would be clear as glass. Ha ha ha ha
I grew up in the 80’s and remember my dads VCR was the coolest thing around! It was one of the earlier ones that had a tracking dial that you would have to manually adjust from scene to scene depending on how beat up the VHS tape was… The people that had a tracking button were way cooler than my dad… 😢
The VCR tracking lines make me feel oh so comfy 🙂
There was just such a calming vibe to the sound quality of old documentaries...it's like a lullaby to me.
Lol me too. I actually say the same thing
I thought it was creepy😂
Nostalgia
Yes! I love it!
is it patrick stuart narrating sound slike it to me
Patrick Stewart is the perfect narrator!
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Was looking for this comment
*Patrick Stewart*
Number 1 red alert!
@@SG-dg6oi 🥳🤣
Old documentaries are better a lot of the time. Much gritter with details including the crime scenes themselves which are important to show the reality of what type of person shawcross really was on the inside. His true nature
I would say things got a lot more phony and calculated starting around 1995 or so.
@@ryanjacobson2508
2000 for sure..
Once we "partied like it's 1999" and we weren't outta time everybody lost their damn .mind...
Now ya can't even fart without causing a breakdown of the ice caps. 🤣 Can't make awesome jokes.
Meh, Just nothing 🤷♀️
@@ryanjacobson2508100%
@@Curious-Irish-Angel So true. The Elites want us to eat bugs to stop "climate change." Not only that, but people can't even handle a different opinion, and want to charge you with a hate crime if you don't want an LGBTQ "teacher" grooming your grandchildren into switching their gender. Thank God Almighty, mine are home-schooled. *Take care, love. Have an amazingly blessed day. SHALOM* 💜💗💜
@@Curious-Irish-Angel Makes me think of the three monkeys: Deaf, dumb and blind.
The past two generations impose this upon themselves and expect the world to follow suit.
I miss Nova! It was such a great show, I wish they'd bring it back. 😢
It's still on
I think it's still on PBS. At least Wisconsin channel 21 shows it, I believe (we have antenna tower)
Nova is still around. Was never cancelled.
Same
It’s on pbs you just have to look to find out what time
That female psychologist is horribly misguided. wow.
A psychopath can't be rehabilitated.
Don't release them to kill again.
Agreed. It's simply to dangerous to let them out.
They can act rehabilitated and be so credible
@TeeKoon they only fool naive gullible incompetents....unfortunately another of those are "professionals ": Dr's etc
FYI---In the Christine Jesop murder case the WRONG MAN was convicted of her murder. Christine's next door neighbor, Guy Paul Morin, was arrested, convicted and send to prison for the murder of Christine (this is the man the FBI Profiler, Mr. Douglas, is talking about in this show). In 2020 DNA evidence proved that the actual murderer was Calvin Hoover. Hoover committed suicide in 2015. Hoover worked with Jesop's father and the Hoover and Jesop families spent time together, so Christine was very familiar with her killer, Mr. Hoover.
I knew from the thumbnail that I'd love this documentary. Sometimes it doesn't even matter what it's about, there's a feel to the cinematography of these old treasures that just makes me want to climb into the picture. It's a warmth created by old technology and the will of the creators to create something with style worth as much or even more than the Information it carries. A certain way of storytelling for those who want to listen not for seconds or minutes, but hours.
The psychiatrists for the defense is delusional. These people are messed up and they indeed had terrible experiences many of them but like John Douglas said when you come across the victim’s that had the misfortune of crossing them i have no sympathy for them either.
Nor me!! None whatsoever 😡🤦♀️
There will NEVER EVER be any excuse IMO!! 🇬🇧😢😢
Son't worry. NO one is trying to make you feel anything about anybody. Psychiatrists are trying to understand the behaviour, with an eye toward trying to prevent it.
@@pirbird14 perhaps after killing two children he never should have been released in the first place, sympathy and understanding is a fools errand, he should have met the chair on the first go round within weeks of being found guilty.
@@reverendjimjones9061 So absolutely true.
@@pirbird14 No, many of these so calles "experts" of the human psyche are terribly wrong. They still believe that child predators, rapists and other kind of psycho violaters can be cured. This is what amakes them veryx dabgerous as well, cz often long time offenders will be released on the expertise og one of them psychiatrists.
The guy they said killed the flute girl was exonerated soon after this doc. Real killer revealed through DNA in 2017 something.
Arthur Shawcross. Real piece of work. There is a sit down interview with him here on UA-cam. Done shorty before he passed.
@@LynxStarAuto No. Calvin Hoover killed her.
Whoopsie! I was sceptical of their "evidence" the entire time he was babbling that nonsense. It was such a huge and ridiculous leap.
The guy wrongly convicted was her next door neighbor, Calvin Hoover. Her actual killer was Calvin Hoover, who worked with her dad. The two families knew each other and spent time together.
@@shh5627 So the profile was correct but they just got the wrong guy.
yep i like the feel of these older docos. not so much sensationalism. 👍👍
The Christine Jessop case was finally solved in 2020.
These old documentaries bring back memories from better days... even though the subject matter is on the dark side. (in this case)
The profile of the Christine Jessie killer was close but they ended up arresting the clarinet player neighbour even though he dd not fit the profile. He was convicted and subsequently exonerated through DNA. The real killer was discovered two years ago through DNA. He was a friend of the family who knew she would be home alone that day. He was questioned but not seriously considered a suspect at the time because the police thought the strange neighbour had done it.
DNA changes everything
Yeah, and that poor man did 18 months
18 months isn’t that long really, plus I bet the flute player got a nice chunk of change for wrongful conviction
Thank God for DNA.
@@lisasmith7066 I totally agree
Keep these videos coming I love watching crime documentaries that weren’t recently made
Glad you're enjoying them. It justifies my recording as many shows as I did over the years and then holding on to the VHS tapes.
@@angelblue314 - Yes. There was no On Demand back then. I used to buy hundreds of blank tapes.
@@asclosetocrime me too and I still have them. Now I need another VCR lol
@@lisabradford8180 - It would be a worthwhile investment. There could be hidden treasures on those tapes.
@@asclosetocrime you bet. I'm getting one very soon.
Love Douglas. Met him in college. The RCMP used the profile and convicted the wrong guy on the Jessup case. It wasn’t solved until recently.
RCMP aren't the sharpest tools in the shed at the best of times
@@meredithisme3752 Do Canadians wish that they had the Death Penalty, like we do here in the States? If you have an opinion on this subject, and are able/willing to share it, I'd love to know. I don't like Justin Trudeau very much. Do Canadians like him, or not? I have some problems with the Death Penalty from a New Testament position, and because we've executed hundreds of innocent and mentally deficient people. *However, as a matter of U.S. law, I don't have too much of a problem with it. Some crimes are so brutally heinous, it's the appropriate punishment for the victim's loved ones to receive any Justice.* Take care, and have a blessed day. SHALOM 💜💗💜
@@RandomChristianMusings alot of us dont like Trudeau. Alot of us wish we had Capitol punishment, in cases whritcan bproen beyond a shadow of a doubt. But like the us, majority opinions vary by region
He looked guilty,just saying.
The part about hearing the behavior regression of the victims is one of the most heartbreaking things I’ve ever heard 😢
I watched a hillside strangler documentary yesterday. The lead detective said a profiler from Germany came to him and said that he believed the killers were highly likely 2 Italians probably related. It blew his mind, it was spot on.😮
That German guy was actually a psychic, been trying to find more info on this man for some time now.
profiling is racist............................
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Killed two kids and was let out? Disgusting.
Very!
They work so hard to get them. Very disheartening for law officers.
democrats.
Unfortunately, for Christine Jessop, the man that was convicted was later proven innocent. It was a family friend that was later conclusively proven to be the murderer. He had already died by the time his guilt was proven.
The first man convicted ended up with a large pay out for wrongful imprisonment.
In “The Killer Across the Table”, John Douglas says the common denominator he found among the killers wasn’t abuse, but a failure to bond to a primary caregiver, where one of the main things learned through bonding is trust. This explains why so many are paranoid and suspicious of others, believing people are against them and no one has their best interests in mind.
Serial killing isn't easily studied and is still in the pioneering stages.
@@mtaylor7307 Where did you get the idea it is in its “pioneering” stages?
@@gabe-po9yi from forensic psychologist I know. John Hopkins graduates...masters.
@@gabe-po9yi maybe pioneering is the wrong word? The understanding of serial killers is not well developed as it is a fairly new study. That's what I meant.
I'm loving watching these old VHS uploads. I love these old police and true crime shows. And with Patrick Stewart narrating. Makes it all the more fun.
These bring back memories of sitting up late watching COPS here in the UK when it was on at mignight or around that sort of time.
And the shows with the late Sherriff John Bunnell. Used to live watching all those shows.
Sir Patrick Stewart😅😂😅
@@bennettcawley4630 ..... I Ain't call that old bald fart... Sir... 😂🤣😂🤣
This seems gritter than most crime shows today. They are so much more direct - "she was fresh?" And Patrick Stewart always perfect narration.
I was kind of shocked by the real crime scene photos,so this was definitely a gritty doc.i guess as disturbing as the pics are they are the harsh reality of murders
@@JamesSmith-qy6gn I actually appreciate the real crime scene photos…
TV was better back in the 80s and 90s, before 24hr news channels and reality television.
John Douglas is a hero
He is brilliant. I'd like to hear his take on the Idaho student murders. I hope he is consulted if he hasn't been already.
Thank you ☺️
Profiling doesn't work. It's a pseudo-science.
I love scan lines. Brings me back to my old vhs tapes. Dont fix this. I read descrio im glad u cpuldnt fix it. Its adds character tp the vid.
Young Children now will ask 20-30 years from now an will say what is with the “lines an audio” blips 🤣😂🤣, answer.....everything was on tape 40 years ago, “what’s a VHS Tape? Etc...”they will then realize music, shows movies etc...from the 70-80-90s are gold”
An oldie but goodie! Just gotta love John Douglas!
It's weird but murder documentaries especially old ones put me right to sleep. I just woke up from a nice nap watching this.
52:36 this is exactly how I feel and what makes it hard for me to understand how anyone can feel any sympathy for these killers. The groups that stand vigil outside prisons protesting the death penalty need to be shown the autopsy pic and ask the victim's families for they feel. Lots of people have terrible childhoods and manage not to become killers. I have ZERO sympathy for anyone but the victims and sometimes the killer's families.
This is a very old documentary, first of all. Secondly, it’s very easy to generalize about the death penalty, but the research is clear: states with the death penalty experience statistically higher numbers of violent crimes than states without it. There goes the old theory that the death penalty is a deterrent! Next, prisoners n death row in the US aren’t being executed because nobody has been able to prove that lethal injections are “humane,” if you remember your social studies unit on the Constitution, you’ll remember the part about the government being prohibited from inflicting “cruel and unusual punishment” upon it’s citizens. Because of that, the death penalty has become meaningless. I have the links to support my statements, but have stopped providing them because the people who want to argue are also the people who won’t read what they disagree with, but you can find articles in a very quick internet search.
I'm against the death penalty. Not because I feel 'sympathy' for killers, in fact quite the opposite. I consider the death penalty a cop out, like a 'get out of jail free' card. I want them to spend a long and miserable life in prison knowing they'll never be released. The longer and more miserable, the better.
Also, the death penalty makes killers of us all.
Liberalism 🤢
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@@voraciousreader3341agree. I also want to add to this to think about the 😢officers who carry out the termination process. Many suffer from the stress of dealing with this.
holy sh..... this is amazing! i was looking for a documentary 'Mind of a Murderer' 2001 & 'Serial Killers: Profiling the Criminal Mind' 1999 john douglas.. so hard to find this old stuff.
where in the world did u get this stuff? or did you record it yourself back then?
I did, indeed, record this myself when it aired in 1992. Much of what you'll find on this channel comes from my extensive VHS collection.
Thanks for watching - it justifies decades of refusing to throw anything out. ;-)
@As Close to Crime i hope you are keeping these holy grails in a safe.. !!! no seriously i think this is gold.. i recently learned about a lady in the US who used to record e v e r y t h i n g on tv. the lady & her archive were subject of a documentary i have yet to see ...
i wish there was a platform that streams past tv ( - the perfect time machine..where i can choose year/date and channel. unlike on my90stv com or my80stv com, if it’s 6pm i get the program played at 6pm back then…
[it’s extremely distressing for me to find “old” programs/movies/tv movies (on imdb for example) & realise there is no copy of it out there-anywhere to be found. my brain doesn’t want to believe/accept that pieces like this are lost forever but we have endless copies of copies copying things other copies copied? just defies my logic…
i am still hoping for some institution/overly rich person to acknowledge its cultural/sociological/historical importance and do something about it..]
anyway i had a look at your blog (my interests: criminal/forensic psychology) .. the very extensive research! is your profession in that field?
@@asclosetocrime you’re awesome I love u
@@ricewithaspoon9607 - I apologize for not responding sooner to this comment; I simply hadn't seen it until this morning.
I suppose I recorded thousands of hours of television because I grew up in the days when if you missed something on tv, you missed it.
Maybe, if I was lucky, I could catch the summer rerun of an episode I really wanted to see but hadn't been home when it aired.
Likewise, bathroom breaks had to be timed perfectly because there was no button to press allowing you to rewind live tv. There was no "on demand" or "streaming" service.
I was the youngest person in my house but the first to buy a VCR. The machines were still expensive but I knew I needed one. Then I had 2 and eventually 3 VCRs. Later, when my parents owned one, I bought them a supply of blank VHS tapes so they could record anything they thought I might like to see.
As my Dad wisely told me, "You can't see it all."
Unlike my parents, I rarely re-used my tapes. This accounts for the back catalog and better quality video on these decades old tapes. If a movie or special was really valued, I would record it in the SP mode.
I knew the tapes were only supposed to have a shelf life of 20 years so, when I finally had the time and capability, I decided to transfer the library onto DVDs.
Since this is done in real-time, not high speed dubbing, and I had decades worth of recordings, it is taking me a long while to finish the project.
Don't get too excited though. Since true crime is not my only interest, I have hours of programming that won't be uploaded here. That's why I started the secondary UA-cam channel called "Have You Seen This?"
Also, back then, pre-recorded movies were terribly expensive to purchase for home viewing so much of what I recorded then is now available on DVD.
I will eventually run out of content and I'm trying not to upload anything that is commercially available.
I DO appreciate you checking out the blog as I had hoped to direct some traffic there thru this UA-cam channel. Many more people watch the videos than read the blog.
I enjoy the research aspect of the work so it's great that you've commented on it.
I try to answer any question I might have about the people or crimes and, since I'm not a big fan of speculation, I don't like to guess or write it as a fictionalized account.
I do wonder "how much is too much" when I'm writing these blog posts. My latest entry, "Is that a shark bite?" is just such an entry.
I wish the writing WAS my job, I guess I watched too much "Lou Grant" growing up - LOL. Alas, it is only a hobby of mine and generates zero income and actually costs me money whenever I want a CA death certificate or I need a particular book to aid in my research.
I started the blog at the urging of a few friends were enjoying my annual Women's History Month tributes that I began posting to FB a few years back. One post a day, every day. It's a lot of work.
Come March 31st, I was relieved but the handful of friends who were reading the posts were sad to see the month (and the posts) come to an end.
So, I allowed myself to be talked into starting a blog. At least with the blog, I could write about men as well as women.
I still do the WHM posts but avoid the topic of true crime for that project. Instead, themes have included "Women on stamps," "Women who have buildings, bridges or parks named after them," "Women who have been the topics of biopics or documentaries," etc.
For the blog, if you noticed, I try to pick crimes that haven't been covered endlessly; that seems pointless. I'll only tackle something many others have written about if I think I can add a new detail - as I did with Ann Prentiss.
Many thanks for watching and reading.
@@StuffedBearSus - LOL. Thanks.
You wouldn't be thinking that if you had to help me move from one house to another.
My father was so proud of himself when he packed up my VHS tapes - "I got 88 tapes in each box!"
That's more weight than you would imagine.
That psychologist made me sick, let's just treat them as they have treated others. What they do is inhumane, not the anger others feel at their actions.
R.I.P to the victims who lost their lives in most horrific senseless acts of qnothers pleasure
Just found this
I love this kinda of show
Such a great documentary. The latest psych study on every murderer on Death Row found 96% had at least 3 of the following: childhood abuse, mental health issues, bullied/socially isolated, head injury resulting in personality change ( the brains frontal lobe controls empathy, emotions & impulse control). UK serial killers Fred & Rose West had all of these issues. Roses brain injury was pre birth, her mother was given electric shock therapy for depression while 8 months pregnant. & Rose was described as "slow".
There's a guy that had a head injury & afterwards ended up a piano prodigy,
The High School I went to in the 80s had a kid who was a major bully but he only got onto me for a few months because I could leave the state and go to another school as my parents worked in different cities. Back then there was no such thing as student rights so they threw him out of the school at the end of year 10 and when I came back the following year, I never saw him ever again even up until I left two years later.
The teachers moved slowly, but they were aware of him and they did expel him somehow (I'm not sure how legally) before he could disrupt students in the last two years of High School, which back then were for people wanting to pursue careers via a university education. The thing that struck me about him was that he clearly had no concept of what the school was for, that it wasn't a playground for his hostile behaviour to others, that he wasn't any more important than any other student. He was like a person operating in the wrong environment - that was not fertile ground to grow what he was trying to develop. At that time, the school's administrators would have looked weak if they hadn't have acted to expel him for disrupting students. There was no mercy for him after three years there - those who ran the school had simply had enough and didn't want him back for more.
Electroconvulsive therapy is a barbaric practice which should have been banned long ago.
@@ReturnOfTheJ.D. But was he handsome and attractive looking, or not? The rest is irrelevant.
@@labrador-fx3fb No he kind of creeped you out when you looked at him. I went to Primary School for six years with him until age 12 and while he wasn't a bully then, he wasn't someone I liked either. I knew him but had no interest in him as he seemed like someone who struggled to get any pleasure or satisfaction out of life, for no real reason (as far as I could tell).
I was the type of guy who wouldn't even try him on as a friend to begin with - but a few other kids did and he had a falling out with one after the other as I recall. I went to his house probably 3 times at most in High School because he was in my home class but there was something about him that was different to other people and I was too busy to worry about what that was or why he was like that. There were better people to be friends with.
My hometown and current city, and born in the year 1992. Never knew it would be on a PBS (WGBH) show called NOVA back then. What a broken city Rochester is. High crime and broken justice yesterday, high crime and broken justice today. Amazing.
@collars and cuffs A lot of Canadian programs and public television shows end up in American programs and on PBS. I grew up with The Big Comfy Couch and that was a Canadian program that made its way to the U.S. on PBS. Arthur was also Canadian and it was an original program of WGBH. Two countries share a lot of sisterly love. Trust me, I am not far from the border myself.
NOVA is still a show it’s science based , it’s really good check it out
It was a great place in the 60s ~
Same here how does Arthur shawcross kill two little kids get to get out a prison is the government right there
Yeah. Unlike most cities, Rochester Ghettos are a melting pot of cultures.
I come from Siberia, Russia. I remember the year 2000. There was a serial killer in our city (it's Barnaul) who preyed on girls. In a short period of time 5 students from the polytechnical university went missing. They were 17-18 years old. After a while a suspect was arrested. During the visit to the crime scene - it was a crime re-enactment - the suspect threw himself out of the window between the 8th and 9th floor. Word is that the cops "helped" him. During the investigation a lot of crimes was solved: sex trafficking, bribery, homicides. Another serial killer was caught. After the suspect's death no reports on missing girls were made. The city breathed a sigh of relief. Some time later I read an interview with the retired chief investigator. He said that he had some doubts. He ment that the perpetrator still was at large. The experienced cop was right: the murderer was arrested this June. The DNA test left no room for doubt.
Interesting story, thank goodness for dna. Did this guy survive the interview room? I’m sure this sort of accidental custody deaths have happened in every country. 😮
Creepy!
@@robyn7287 this guy is still alive. He was given life with no parol.
How does anyone throw themselves out a window "between floors"?
@@LoveOneAnotherHeSaid I was thinking the same thing. Maybe a window in a stairwell halfway between floors? More than likely just a minor grammatical glitch 'cos it seems English may not be the OP's first language. It was an interesting yarn, though.
Old NOVA brings me back to being a kid... I was in H.S. in 92
Who was the guy that killed the lady with the earrings that left mental hospital
This reminds me of something I'd sit on the floor and watch when I was a kid in the 90s lol
Young children now will ask 10-30 years from now an will say what is with the “lines an audio” blips 🤣😂🤣, answer.....everything was on tape 40-50 years ago, “what’s a VHS Tape? Etc...”they will then realize music, shows movies etc...from the 70-80-90s are gold” 👏
I'm only about 20 minutes in so far, but it seems like they were looking for Joel Rifkin in the beginning. I know that he was active in New York in the time frame, and I think he was specifically active in Rochester. That was why I like the other old documentary called "Murder: No Apparent Motive", because they were looking for the Green River Killer, and we know now that it was Gary Ridgway.
Edit: They were looking for Arthur Shawcross. I don't know much about him.
Read:" the misbeggoten son." Excellent book on Arthur shawcross
This is very dated. Shawcross was a psychopath without the ability to comprehend remorse. They can’t stop killing unless incarcerated or dead. If able they will continue their pattern, always escalating.
Actually you're wrong.
I love these old true crime documentaries
I remember my dad trying to fix the “tracking”
Man what it was like to grow up in the 80’s and 90’s. Older shows like this remind me of days watching TV with my Grandmother. Those were the good days. When some look forward to TV shows and highlighting all the shows in the TV guide. Man those TV guides were something special.
It you're bothered by this content, you shouldn't shut your eyes, you should not watch it!...just like when they bleep out certain words cause they're offensive, just don't watch!
Shawcross shouldn't have been on street
Loving these! I also enjoy how seeing how the processes have changed in regards to how the detectives and agents work. Times have changed and so have the serial killers.
Israel Keyes changed the game. For everything. How cops work. How people work etc.
Man I missed those horizontal lines.
Lol. Adjust the v-hold button! Ah the memories.
Edit: I mean dial
That was great.
Thanks to all those with the stomach to deal with and pursue justice for these heinous and lowly crimes.
Generation x '67 is sadly the last of the old school raised disciplinary parents...I have never seen so much " Str8 up bullshit" in my entire life!! But I still stand on God bless America...the original America, not this cluster f&*'!k of world...#Raised💯 patriotic, 🇺🇲🇺🇲❤️
OMG this pure gold ❤👍🔪
Captain Picard narrating! You kept expecting him to say "engage".
Amazing how accurate they are with the profiles of these lunatics..excellent documentary
Hey "Doctor" Dorothy Lewis, since you're such a big fan of Arthur Shawcross, how about he moves in with you? I mean, you believe he's just a sad man with PTSD, right? So not a vicious sociopath? You say you believe he can be rehabilitated. Fair enough. If you really believe that, how about he moves in with you immediately so you can provide, uh, "therapy," then he'll be rehabilitated. Sound good? As you said yourself, he's just sick, so no worries. I mean, he didn't viciously rape and murder any of YOUR loved ones, so how bad can he be?
Arthur Shawcross is dead. Has been for nearly 20 yrs now. .
You wouldn't want him in your state let known in your home when he was alive.
Good thing he died in prison.
Shawcross CANNOT be rehabilitated!!
Reminds me of using a VCR in the 90's as a child 💯😂
I loved using a VCR when I was kid in the 90s and even the early 2000s, I always liked recording my favorite anime from cable and the documentary too gives me nostalgia .
Thank you for uploading this very rare documentary! Do you also have the ''American Justice'' series with Bill Kurtis concerning the Leonard Lake & Charles Ng case?
No, but I do have the "Great Crimes & Trials of the 21st Century" episode covering the Leonard Lake and Charles Ng case.
Am sure I've seen that on another channel. These series are so well made. Amazing to think how murders were solved without the advances in technology we have now! At least DNA stops the prevalence of people being wrongly convicted.
Ohhh. They were 2 sick mf
I’m in a vintage documentary kick and this fit right in. Thanks a lot.
Weird listening to Jean Luc Picard narrate a serial killer doc...Engage.
50:26 I completely agree with that! If those serial killers were indeed "insane" or were not sane when they killed, they would have tried to kill someone anywhere, at anytime and wouldn't try not to get caught. Of course they know what they are doing. They are evil and they only do that for one single and disgusting reason: sexual gratification. I can't believe that that female psychiatrist actually said that this serial killer didn't know what he was doing. And somehow I think to myself, EVEN if they actually didn't know what they were doing, they are dangerous individuals that have to be taken out of society anyway. But we all know they always know what they're doing. That guy spent 15 years in prison and as soon as he was out, he started killing again. They just never stop, we might think "oh they're gonna have years behind bars to change and to think about what they did" well spoilert alert: they NEVER feel remorse. Once you've done such horrible crimes, you never feel remorse.
Well said, Caroline. That psychiatrist is clueless. People like Arthur Shawcross can never be rehabilitated. The scumbag should never have been released from prison , 10 years early. The parole board has the blood of the later victims on their hands.
@@glennhoddle10 Exactky! Those killers are always released too soon, and they always kill again...
I like these older documentaries.
Thank you 👍
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Yes!!!!
Back in the mid-1990s - early 2000s I watched and videotaped an episode of NOVA, or at least I thought it was NOVA. After recording *this episode* (Mind of a...) I started taping the show every week.
*There was an episode about shipwrecks.* As I remember, it was narrated by actor Stacy Keach. There were two wrecks that stood out. One involved a ship that sank very quickly and the rescue effort was like a photo finish, because about a minute after the helicopter lifted the last person away it rolled over on it's side and the water went up one end like a zipper-------GONE!
The second one was in an arctic local and the ship had a mechanical ice pick on the front of it. But the weather became like a hurricane and the ship had to be evacuated or something... All I remember is a huge wave unexpectedly washing over the ship and taking many crewmen with it and this man, narrating, who I believed was Keach saying, *_"The ship looks as if it's floating in a vast bowl of Margarita (PRONOUNCED: Mar-gua-rita) ice..."_*
Anyway, I'm pretty sure that I lent someone the tape and never got it back.
Anyone recall and episode of some PBS show like this, because all of my internet searches, including all the things that Keach worked on, have led to dead ends...
I’m usually quite good at finding things online, but, didn’t find any episodes related to ships and narrated by Stacey Keach, Jr.
I did find a a couple of NOVA shipwreck rescue episodes that you can easily search for on Google.
This show was so early, before we had more understanding. It assumes every serial killer had a violent childhood or had been abused themselves. Bundy, Dahmer, Son of Sam... many of them had normal childhoods.
how many of them were in the military?
No, Bundy had anything but a normal childhood according to his psychiatfist Dr Dorothy Lewis.
Bundy did NOT have a normal childhood.
Not true at all!!
None of those you mentioned had normal childhoods.
Love these old videos
Never should have gotten out of jail after he killed those kids.
Jean Luc Picard narrating a serial killer documentary!? Does it get any better?
data says: "no, no it does not"....😂😂😂
A fix for the annoying horizontal lines on the lower portion of the screen is to turn on "subtitles" but you need to modify them a bit. Just click the "settings" cog wheel at the bottom of the screen. Then click "subtitles". Then click "options" to set the "font size" to about 200%. Then make sure "background opacity" is set to 100% and "background color" is set to "black". Also set "window opacity" to 100% and "window color" is set to "black".
By doing this it puts a nice wide black strip over top of the annoying lines and it covers them pretty well. If you have any trouble with it working just play around with the settings and it should make a big difference on videos like this. I'm on a laptop though but I'm pretty sure this will work on any device just not sure how big you will want to set the font. That should be the only difference ❤😉❤
I think people were more mature and hard working back before the internet. Thanks to these people seeking justice for strangers.
52:16 It's not about thinking in terms of punishing the individual, it's about PROTECTING children and young women. She says that but I bet if her own children or her sister, her mother were killed by one of those "individuals", she wouldn't say the same thing uh? Plus, what should we do about them then? They spend years in prison and then they continue to kill as soon as they are out of prison. What does that tell you about them? One word: remorseless. It was THEIR decision to screw up their live. THEY decided to do what they did and to not be a part of our society anymore. Actions have consequences.
I enjoy these old videos
You only know about this video because I told you about it
Dr Park Dietz is amazing in is analyses of criminals..and criminal minds...he explains and recognize that some very good people can also be psychos a nasty mofoz ,but inside..!!..but chose to never act on their fantasies and live complete 'normal' lifes without committing any crimes & offenses...I can totally relate reading one of his books made me understand my own thoughts & inside violence towards a few idiots I would picture myself strangling..!!!
My heart breaks for little Christina
why ?
My heart breaks for the wrong man that was convicted. Because of John Douglas his profile, people like him are dangerous for society.
Thank you. Looking forward to bingeing your channel.
Thanks for watching.
That chick would probably have a whole different view about Arthur if she was left alone with no protection with him, she would be just another victim, see if she thinks about rehabilitation then.
I am so sorry for prostitutes. The life is so sad and dangerous and generally debilitating.
@ 18:13 min mark….. my man would get knocked out with a left hook
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I could listen to Patric Stewart reading toilet paper
That old tape sound turns this into a surprisingly good hour of TV to fall asleep to. It's really something, beautiful relic of an era I remember but is now mainly preserved in videos like this.
Excellent video.
Now the FBI throws people in jail for wrong think.
Dude just wait to see what the Police of Mexico do to the people.
36:42 I'm pretty sure this tactic was first proposed by Ted Bundy as way to potentially catch the Green River Killer. Bundy was approached by the task force with a proposition to "work" as a kind of consultant for them (Bundy _was_ a master of his "craft" after all). He was pretty much contributing as a profiler with "hands on experience". The dude was truly having a blast with that, of course. Which was all he got out of it because there's no way the task force were going to offer any kind of deal even if they actually had the authority to do so.
Unfortunately Ridgway was already ahead of the task force as he decided to no longer return to his dump sites for his little "visits". He feared the possibility that they would eventually realize what he's doing, and catch him by staking out his dump sites just as Bundy recommended. When the task force actually attempted this they were too late, so they spent all that time babysitting corpses for no reason.
Once Ridgway was finally caught in 2001, he "worked" with the task force _on his own case_ as kind of "consultant" to relocate the bodies, and to spill the beans on everything about himself & his crimes as part of a deal to avoid execution.
Interestingly, it turns out that Bundy’s profile on the Green River Killer/future successor of his "consultant position", aka Gary Ridgway, was pretty spot on almost everything.
What a great documentary! I love the science of the depravity and how it manifests it these sick f***s.
This women should be the last person to have any say in the treatment of these monsters.
Excellent non sensationalist
Captain's log: a body was found face down in the river
Fantastic job! Sad subject matter, but made so interesting and compelling. 👌🏼
Back when I felt like PBS was a worthwhile option for my TV time
Appreciate the upload; very interesting!
You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting.
So do we all have the capability of being a serial killer? Are we all inherently evil?
What memories! Those older VCRs had to have their tracking adjusted. I had VHS tapes where you could tell when our drier went off because there would be lines in whatever I was taping.
I love these old documentaries. Many people are squeamish about crime scene photos, but they show the depravity of the killer. Victims are nothing to them; just as disposable as a Kleenex when you're done blowing your nose. Shawcross should never have been released after killing those children. Even back in those days, the authorities had to know that he would kill again. Killers don't stop unless they're stopped, usually. By the way, Patrick Stewart's voice lends an air of dignity to a very undignified topic.
I used to get angry if my Mom fired up the vacuum cleaner when I was recording something because it had the same impact as your dryer.
@@asclosetocrime Yep, we got the same result when we vacuumed lol.
How far psychiatric forensics have come. Now we know these particular offenders never change . Even those with less pervasive tendencies . The thought patterns and behaviors can only be red flagged and they will continue to spiral downwards . There truly is no recovery .