Poem is getting comfortable -
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- This week I carry on getting Poem ready to cruise, I tackled so many items but have shared a few of the highlights here.
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Packing a gland is almost an Art when done by experienced gland packers
Geordie won the lottery with you !
Please, Please don't forget to radius the corner of the plywood base of the bed center - rear so you don't break your leg.
Something kind will happen at that corner for certain.
I don’t know how you do it, if I worked in that boat shed all my tools would be in the water by now😂
Me too🤣
I know I've had a packing gland like that on s few boats I've owned over the years. I use continuous loops not cut pieces and never had a problem .but also seen doing it the way your doing it. Make you sure uou make it drip or the shaft will get hot and it could break the shaft in two cheers!
The stuffing box master class was perfect Peter. 👏 looking forward to the restoration work on Geordie this winter. Good job.
Thanks Peter. Nice job. Will nice to be watching Geordie's transformation. See you on the next episode. Cheers.
I have just arrived home after 10 days aboard Water Rail, I have brought with me the brass air intakes for cleaning, basically they were black with the odd streak of brass showing so they have been sanded, and will get polished and clear coated so I can refit them on my next visit in a few weeks (long weekend), I also managed to get a couple of coats of varnish ont the rear end of the cabin (the previous single coat had got looking patchy, I will remember your techniques when I get the next coats on, though I tend to use a scotchbrite pad to flat down between coats.
Watching Travels with GEORDIE is the highlight of my week, thank you so much 👍
Amazing to see the progress in Poem, thanks for taking the time to produce the videos and can't wait to see your projects on Geordie over the winter
Peter your progress on Poem is amazing from the stuffing box to the bed good luck with further cruising this season.
Hi Peter.
Regarding the packing...
I wipe copperslip on the shaft, when it's dryish then wipe .. plus a bit more.. some copperslip on each layer of packing.. wear gloves! and a tray or rags in the bilge.
This helps to stop the packing grabbing the shaft and trains the grease where to go.
But.. in the process of installing the packing you allow a hole for the greaser to insert grease on to the shaft.. the packaging must not be dry on the shaft.
Over the years the opinions vary of what type of grease to use I've used Lithium but Calcium is now considered better.. I think it is because there are different additives now.
The reason behind all this is the packaging is not tightened down hard when in use.. it's the grease that stops the drips...
It's a bit of a game getting the balance.. I tighten by hand, fill with grease, then tighten a tiny bit more.. then keep an eye on it after every time the shaft stops spinning until it settles in...
As I have indicated you need a greaser.. there are the turn types or the spring loaded ones which I prefer or you can combine the two which then applies continuous pressure.
Some people tighten the packing when leaving the boat for a while but if it's set-up correctly it shouldn't need it.
As you will be leaving Poem while cruising on Zephyrus.. it might be better to tighten.
If doing fresh packing I prefer the boat to be watched and adjusted while settling in.
You said the tightening ring has a grove.. this could be an additional packing ring.. a drip ring.. but you use something like soft caulking cotton wrapped as a continuous string to make a spongey ring.. like a soft rubber oil seal.. you smear grease on the shaft by the compression ring.. and the bit of the shaft the compression ring covers should be greased and grease should fill that from the greaser.
Hope this helps...
btw..cut the corner of the bed.. at least round it .. to stop having dents in your legs.. alternatively install the upright for the bulkhead..
and buy a few duvets as mattress toppers.
Regards from
Bella 🐈 & Mark.
Peter, you got yourself a haircut. My wife says you look better groomed you have arrived.
Great job Peter, did wonder why the gland stuffing was in the cap but you have sorted it out now. ( Geordi )
Geordie was a loyal friend, and MV Geordie will be as well.
Hi Peter, You bring a whole new meaning to the phrase..”You’ve made your bed,now lie on it..” The mattress may be a bit thin but you’re a hardy man …😴Love Travels With Geordie.
Nice stuffing box segment. I have repacked many of them on old wooden boats and was advised many years ago by an old boat Wright to leave the old packing in place while adding new packing as you did. It seems the old packing slowly deteriorates with a fresh crop of new packing ready to do it’s job. Less stress that way by a
reducing water gushing in.
Good to know MV Geordie will be well taken care of. Thanks!!
I suppose that makes sense but I just wanted al that old crap out and the gush is no concern.
My life must be pathetic since watching each episode of Travels with Geordie is the highlight of my week. I loved this episode as you demonstrated (along with the other great comments) on how to pack a stuffing box. Good information to know as I’m seriously considering purchasing a new to me boat with straight shafts. Cheers!
I look forward to these learning sessions. Can't wait to see what transformation happens to Geordie over the winter. Enjoy what's left of summer and keep those episodes coming! Cheers,
Geordie will be awesome when she rolls out of the boat house next spring! Good luck.
Sadly my favorite Geordie tee shirt from 4 years or so ago is all worn out. I could use another!
Packing puller ! When you remove the packing you will be getting big water. Just take tube inner diameter a minus shaft diameter and divide by 2. Make yourself 10 rings or until you are tired or run out . Maybe dive to propeller shaft outside and put temporary sealant on shaft. This should stop or restrict water flow when you remove old packing and allow you to install new pieces. Diagonal cuts and alternate joints on packing. Packing is made to leak for cooling and lubrication ! Good Luke and have fun !
As always, a great pleasure to see your handiwork.
I look forward to following the work with Geordie over the winter.
Fantastic work as always Peter. Looking forward to following your jounrey with Geordie too!
I think I can say for all of us we miss Geordie and will miss MV Geordie in the coming weeks. Hope your cruise goes well.
Hi Peter, thanks for completing a lovely Sunday here in England 🇬🇧. The sun is just setting, going to enjoy this, thank you.
Will bed frame on POEM
survive a hurricane...a Hurricane named Alice...oh yes oh yes yeessss shiver me timbers.
THEIR WAS A WENCH NAMED ALICE
WHO MEANT ME NO MALICE
WHEN THE MOON WAS FULL
WE TAKE THE CRUISE
A cruise for two
Forgetting about our ballast
You are living the life. Keeping your mind active, doing what inspires you and moving your body. Add a companion and a location like lower Vancouver Island. Wow! I notice Travels with Geordie has ticked up from 28.7K to 28.8K subscribers so congratulations on that too.
Poem coming along nicely 😊. The bed gives it scale now and shows how roomy she is. Yeah unusual stuffing box 😮 she didn,t in to much water at all 😅. Yeah weathers been COLD here at the bottom of the world lowest so far where I am -15 C but then live next to a mountain 😂. Been to cold for boat resto in the shed Bugger. 😊 keep at it POEMS LOOKING FINE. 😊
Just a thought Peter. On my boat, I have installed IKEA curved bed slats and an IKEA mattress. The combination, even though the mattress is no thicker than the foam you have here, is amazingly comfortable. It would take some juggling as the bed narrows, but do-able.
Cheers! I enjoyed watching your tutorial on re-packing the stuffing box. I've got to do the same on Sonata, our sailboat. I look forward to all your efforts with these fine vessels and feel "Travels with Geordie" is a must see!
Fair Winds,
Mitchell
sv Sonata
San Francisco Bay
You might like to try Froli Bed System Springs under your mattress.
They give more cushioning and increase air circulation,
whilst you are not living aboard Geordie
I didn't see if you greased the prop shaft?
Excellent episode. So much to like here. Enjoyed the carpentry and seeing the metalwork on Poem be fitted to varnished wood. Very satisfying and that’s just from viewing. The feeling from your end of the camera must have been so great. Interesting to learn more about your wider plans and I hope Poem isn’t too small to live aboard for the winter? I guess she’ll be a little cheaper based on length but I’m sure you’ll spend the difference on G’s refit. Nice outro. Sometimes these manoeuvres just happen.
Excellent progress, love watching Poem come along. Had a double take between 25:07 and 25:08, quite the hair cut! Keep the excellent videos coming, they are tremendous
Quite normal stuffingbox. Greaseing is for a babbit prop.shaft bearing. Use waterproof grease. Just half turn on the grease cap ever month or so. The packing shall be leak proof when at rest. Cruising the leak shall be a drop or two every minute. Packing must leak when shaft is turning, or else you will ruin prop shaft.
On your prop shaft sealing, it is just like water and wastewater plants service pumps, and I have some information and a heads up for you. The fixture that the packing goes into is called a "stuffing box" the compression member is called a "packing gland". And if you originally had a grease Cup or a grease fitting on the top to lubricate the packing to minimize shaft fretting (wear) it is important for you to know of a packing part called a "lantern ring". A lantern ring is a one piece, or a two-piece hard/solid ring made of brass or Teflon that is vented and ported and lines up with the grease fitting/cup and it allows the grease to penetrate down to the area where the packing contacts your rotating shaft. When packing a such a stuffing box you put two rings of packing in the bottom of the stuffing box then the lantern ring which allows the lantern ring to align with the lubricating port then you put two or three rings of packing on top of the lantern ring and secure it all down. So, if your present set up does not have a lantern ring incorporated in the stuffing box then there's no sense of you worrying about a grease Cup addition because the grease will be blocked by the compressed packing preventing it from doing you any good.
Will your travels take you near Blakey Island? I’d love to see the harbor! It was created in 1960/61 by the late Ole Johnson for Sky Harbor airport. Former Criscraft double plank hull fresh water owner!
I will be crossing to Friday Harbour and then out below Lopez so I'll miss Blakey this trip.
Interesting story.
Geordie will be in good hands! Can't wait to see you work on it.
I love IPA, but I find it more a fall and winter drink. Once spring comes around and thru summer I switch to a well made G&T. Cheers.
Poem gets nicer, outside and in,
She's becoming a gem, Oh Lordie!
But I'd love for your big cruising to begin
And that you will do on Geordie.
So it's good to hear that you are planning on making her outside nice and stand any weather so that you then can go on and finalize all the inside ideas.
Bravo!!!
On the shore power cable ends. There are now ferrules/sleeves that crimp onto the wire strands like a tip on a shoelace. That should increase the conductivity from the strands to the hubble clamps to reduce heating do to resistance.
Was just thinking, would it be useful or helpful to make the new berth on M/V Poem a convertible settee? Allowing one of the cushion halves to become the settee back. Sort of like one half of the dinette in the helm area? Would free up some valuable walking space when not in use.
While that makes a lot of sense. One of my most strident desires in a comfortable boat is a real bed, one that is made up in the morning and doesn't need to be converted from some other use to go to bed at night. Although it takes up a lot of space, it works very well in that little cabin and even more cosy than I expected.
Hi Peter, if it was a gland packed valve, your sleeve would be known as a "Gland Follower"
Hi Peter: How many things have you dropped into the water?
Geordie is a very good looking boat.
Glad that Geordie will get some work .did you ever do the hull on the rear of the boat? I may have missed it. When I repacked my stern gland I was so freaked out about water in the boatI waited until we were on the hard.
I still need to do the hull work aft of the house as well as the fo'c'sle. A good portion of it will be done next spring.
Double Bed hey??? oooo say no more Squire! A nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse.....
Numbskull for ME!!! Fine business! CHEERS from HERE!!!
Big believer in hot coating varnish Peter. I only sand every 3 ncoats or so.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the work progress on Geordie!
Thanks again for a good episode.
If Geordie is in the boat house this winter, is Poem going to be in front of The Empress in the inner harbor of Victoria ?
She is indeed and will be my home this winter.
Why not polish the brass up ?
Another great episode Peter, and a fresh cut to boot! Hoping you DO get to do some cruising after the gale, and the plans for Geordie are exciting. Was Lloyd any help with info on Poem's stuffing box history? cheers.
Geordie you stay my first love even now I get to spend some time with Poem all winter we willen be together
Great vlog Peter Poem is looking very flash I hope your cruise is nice and relaxing
Already looking forward to the upcoming work on Geordie
Me too!
I am already impatient to see the future renovation on Geordie!
It always feels so good to get one's ears lowered...
Hi Peter great to see Poem taking shape. Thanks
Fantastic progress on Poem Peter, well done and great entertainment.
You got your earls lowered! Looks good sir! Lol.
Thanks
Looking forward to see you work on Geordie.
Cheers to Geordie, both MV and canine
How come you're not tied up together?
Geordie 26:37 appearing to be a beer aficionado, while pouring a beer incorrectly. Why?
Fair, a little weak at the end there. not sure why....
Geordie.....loving the videos
It is a gland follower.
Seeya next year Geordie
Great episode !
Let's c theirs u, Thomas Johnson of Maine,Dave Engels of Montana all bringing knowledge and skills to utube.
Myself I have nothing to bring to utube but my good looks...y I'm a failure..
Thank you so much Peter! This was indeed a splendid episode (my personal word of the week cuz I like the word "Splendid" so much 😎). As others have said, watching your episodes is also the highlight of my week. I only wish I'd have become a patreon sooner (this was the week I started). See you in PT soon.
I can't express my admiration for your persistency even though your timeline was delayed.. those first guests will appreciate it all the more!!!
Hey⚓️😃 Is the boat in the 1964 film 'Father Goose' (Cary Grant) a Monk design boat? cheers 😄
cheers G dog
Jordy, Jordy, Jordy, How soon you were thrown over for a smaller, thinner model like Poem. That has to feel like Giselle does with Tom Brady.
It's just not fair that there will always be someone younger and slimmer to catch a man's eye! Oh Peter you Devil.
Very amusing
Ha!
Peter, all my boats have had a lubricating and cooling water hose run to a nipple screwed into the place where you have that bolt screwed into the shaft log. The water through that line is supplied from a tee in the cooling water line after the last engine cooler.
Now that's interesting. Must look into that.
Seems odd as there is plenty of water coming up the shaft log.
I have seen setups where there is a bleed off hose that directs the water that would normally drip from the gland into the raw water exhaust instead of the bilge. Perhaps that's what you had.
The bleed offs to the seal I had and have are pressurized from the raw water cooling to the shaft seal, even with the dripless packing I now thoroughly enjoy. In my old wooden Grand Banks I detested a wet bilge, and in 29 years of ownership it was mostly just that because early on I shifted to a dripless shaft seal, the original being a grease seal with zerk fittings I had to pump grease into after every run to stop the dripping -m what a mess. Never saw that seal anywhere else in my life. I have had both lip seal style (Tides) and the face seal (PYI). I think I like the face seal better as it is a bit more forgiving of any misalignment and does not care if the shaft surface is not so perfect like Poem's.
It is pretty infectious your happiness when something goes right. Thank you again for bringing us along on your travels with Geordie, even if this week was mostly about Poem.
Wondering if you are bringing tshirts to the wooden boat festival. Id be happy to buy one
Peter, Travels with Geordie (TWG) continues to be a wonderful channel. I agree with "SteveeCee" below. Watching your weekly updates has become part of our capping off of the weekend. Enjoy so much all the useful and interesting advice, instructions and commentary that you offer on the videos as well as the comments that the TWG community provide, case in point the various ways and techniques for pack stuffing glands.
Gosh, such kind words, thank you.
Sell it and move on with your life! 😊
This is my life.....
I love that you end every episode with Geordie standing on the back of the boat. What a sweet dog!
Enjoyed the stuffing box. Must re-stuff mine soon.
Ralph Lauren would love the throw pillows. 😳😳
Varför måste du babbla hela tiden? Varva ner, man blir bara stressad av att lyssna på dig!
Tagga ner, och låt bilderna tala! 😮
👍
Nice hair cut. Keep it short. Handsome
Do you always use your propellor to trim your hair?
INTERESTING CUT OF THE FOAM FOR THE BED.
you need to grease it as well.......