Off isn't really Off
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- In the olden days, our gizmos had electro-mechanical power buttons. When the thing was turned off, no power was sent to it.
Nowadays, things have changed with the advent of electronically-controlled everything - including things like washing machines.
You can even look at the specs of most gizmos these days, and you'll see two power ratings: Max Power, and "Sleep" power consumption.
Puters haven't been off-off for a long time now. Smartphones are also never really off in many cases, as are smart TVs.
In and of itself, that's not really a problem... Until certain agencies and groups and hackers decide to exploit these "features" to do evil things.
Mind you, this is nothing new. Smartphone hacks to turn phones on remotely and spy on their owners have been around for at LEAST ten years. Dumbphones are no different!
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I'm trying to get rid of the long needle from the back of my head like in The Matrix. It's hard to do, little by little I'm doing it. Anybody trying to sell me a smart something gets a punch in the face.
Senatus Populus que Romanus.
A fascinating study.
Skippy Lippy agreed
UPDATE?
i still feel like awake in that pod, unable to move but, like you, am removing those tubes and wires. One by one. There's no real benefit for ordinary people to be constantly surrounded by electromagnetic radiation from 'smart' gadgets.
Off stopped being truly off when manufacturers of televisions with tubes came up with the "instant on" feature. Tubes were used before transistors became common. They each contained a heating element that had to warm up before the appliance would work. The "instant on" feature maintained power on to those heating elements even when the appliance was "off" so that the warm up waiting period could be avoided.
Interesting to know that.
So it's pretty certain that all electronics nowadays can have adapted "instant on" features to send data even when our devices are "off".
And today's smart phones you can't remove the battery to make sure it's off off. By design? LOL
By design to make manufacturing cheaper. Also to force customers to buy a whole new phone if the battery lifetime is up.
even if yoursmartphone has a battery you can remove your still not safe because its not too uncommon for there to be a smaller battery inside the phone
Of course by design. These corporations have armies of PhD's. They're not stupid. They don't just design shit by accident.
Just drop it in the sink...
@@justaninja1 I think you can interpret "by design" to mean "with intent", i.e. the nefarious intent of government, not the manufacturer.
First time I began to pay attention to off ain't off...was after a month's service with my samsung phone on T-mobile service. Didn't like it so I cancelled service. Weeks later I was uploading music to the device to use as an mp3 player...when the predator alert for a missing child began to scroll over the face of the phone. Had to landline T-mobile to make sure they had cut off the service which they verified. The young lady quietly educated me on how that was possible. Just because it is off to me...doesn't mean it is off to....them. And that...them...seems to include a whole host of companies.
I was doing the same thing with my phone. It's not connected to any service, but when I turn it on it has the current time and weather! Crazy.
Wow! Good to know! Ty! 🌟👍🏻
I turn off my electronics using a baseball bat. So far it is working like a charm...
Huh, it must be really hard to push those tiny power buttons with a bat.
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So funny.
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I appreciate the way you explain techy stuff in a way a person that is not knowledgeable in tech can understand. Thank you!
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In 1995 Microsoft released Windows95. A friend bought an Apple that day, in protest. But after she got it home, she discovered it had no physical / mechanical power switch, that the "power switch" was in fact, as described in this video, an electronic trigger for the real power switch, electronically controlled and inside the power supply. The only true, real, absolute way to "power off" that fcking apple computer was to unplug it from the wall (or use a power strip having a mechanical on/off switch that physically interrupted the power line). She returned that computer.
Fast-forward 15-20 years to Apple's iphone. Also no mechanical power switch, and in fact the battery is quite difficult to access. APPLE PHONES STAY "ON" ALL THE TIME, REGARDLESS OF THEIR ON/OFF STATUS. TO PROVE THIS TO YOURSELF, TURN ONE ON AND PUT IT INSIDE YOUR MICROWAVE OVEN. THE OVEN SHIELDS THE IPHONE MICROWAVES CAUSING IPHONE TO GO INTO FULL BLAST MODE, TRYING TO CONTACT ANY TOWER. LEAVE IT OVERNIGHT, TRYING TO CONNECT BUT BEING BLOCKED, FORCED INTO FULL-BLAST MODE ALL NIGHT. YOU WILL FIND THE BATTERY DIES IN ABOUT 1 DAY. RECHARGE PHONE. NEXT NIGHT, PUT SAME IPHONE BACK INTO SAME MICROWAVE, BUT THIS TIME LEAVE THE IPHONE TURNED OFF. YOU WILL FIND THAT THE BATTERY DIES IN ABOUT 1 DAY. NOW, IF THE PHONE WAS TRULY OFF, THE BATTERY WOULD NOT HAVE DIED IN THE SAME TIME IT DIED WHILE TRASHING ITSELF IN FULL-BLAST MODE.
APPLE IS LIARS, SPIES, THEIR DEVICES NEVER TRULY TURN OFF.
East Ghost
PREACH!
It's interesting to me that you can't remove the battery from most phones now. I can't help but think that's intentional.
Apple also is aligning itself with the political far left, liberals gladly giving away their rights. Giving away their 1st amendment. Tim Cook kinda has this AI is God thing going on. Seeing him speak from a podium in front of his followers can be a little unsettling.
And, if you call your cell phone from another phone while it's in the microwave, if it rings then you need a new microwave oven because the seal is bad.
Apparently if you turn GPS off (and/or the phone itself) your smartphone still records and stores your location data and will transmit your history as soon as you reconnect. So tracking is always ON too
That doesn't surprise me.
True. It records your movement with its built in gyro and accelerometers
It can also triangulate your location using nearby towers. Though I do get a pretty exact location despite location services being off to save battery.
It never “disconnects” either. Airplane mode is just legal nonsense. You don’t actually need to turn it on.
Yup
Scott, just found you a couple of days ago and really appreciate your work. Excellent! Keep it up (I'm typically not very agreeable or complimentary). Cletus, get a job.
LOL @ Cletus get a job ... ^5
I purchased a new Sony XBR55X900E TV - and of course I just had to open it up and see what's inside. I found a couple of microphones, 2 camera's and wondered why a TV would have these items? Soooo ... i disconnected them. LOL how many of your viewers do stuff to a new electronic device like that? LOL
No one because they want to watch it ,that's has dumb they are
A Camera and or microphone has no business being inside a television.
Yes why? Why would a TV have cameras and mics? Surveillance I presume, but again why.
It may sound too far fetched to you now but it's all for the smart grid grid MATRIX grid.
Even my AV amplifier has it , PlayStation has it , anything that connects to the internet has it , smart fridge , it's the LED .
@mrbanik2010
A LED light can be used as a microphone as well as a transmitter .
Your router has LEDs . The windows WiFi light is the transmission
I have an app on my phone that measures the data being transmitted and when the phone doesn't seem to be updating it sends data, and sometimes it's blatantly said it was sending voice/text or something like that and I had suspicions that voice data was being sent or other random data.
All the signs are there.
When I learned about this about 25 years ago, I started to have almost everything connected to a switched contact/connector.
What about airplane mode? does that shut down the wifi/cell signal?
SAMSUNG Smart TV says in the documentation, if you don't want it to record your conversation, don't talk nearby... what? Are you supposed to go into the bathroom to talk?
Just open it up ad unplug the mic
Love your channel and am very happy to learn what you are sharing!
What is that fluffy thing? Is it a cat? .. If it were a cat I think I might die laughing.
It's a Tribble. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribble
if you unplugged the puter from the wall socket, wouldn't that turn it off compleatly??
like taking out the batteries on laptops, smartphones, etc...?
Do you have a link to the talks from Ralph Weinman?
scrolling through comments, best suggestion was putting a magnet-empowered switch into phone to only power the mic when you want. you would apply magnet on outside of phone to activate mic. that way nothing recorded. and duct tape over camera of course.
wake on LAN! you have just explained something that has puzzled me for 21 years and nobody has been able to tell me the answer before!
Will phone function with removal of baseband processor
Hi Scottie. Found ya in my feed and watched the 5g video. Great work and thx for the info! God bless
I run a 3TB backup drive and I have actually noticed that after powering down my laptop the back up drives blue operating light comes on every so often when the laptop is supposed too be powered down now I understand why thanks
The main reason things don't turn off is because it lengthens the life of the product significantly. It is very damaging to sensitive components to go through a powering on and off cycle constantly. They have been doing it with electronics forever.
If you tap the “off” button with a 3 lb. sledgehammer; It WILL shut off.
At least by the fifth tap.
Thank you for this Video, I use a C.A.P.I. Computer assisted personal Interviewer, motion tablet. When it crashes as it regularly does, it takes around 20mins with the battery pack removed before it shuts itself down so that I can start it all back up again. Liked the Video Scottie thank you. 👌🍸💫
Try holding the power button for a minute after removing power.
Great video and thank you for sharing this information with us! This video gets a like from me! Question, if we do have any of these "Smart items" within our home, what are the top things that we can do to protect our privacy as much as possible?
That's what I want to know. How do we take back and protect our privacy? Please share the knowledge 😊
Thanks Brother! If the SIM card is removed, cellular turned off, restrictions on, is it smart phone safe to use in only WiFi mode to take pictures with/without for sharing? I miss being able to take pics now that I’m on a Cat phone!
On my 110v devices, there's always the plug. On my smart phone... oh wait a minute... I never got around to getting one yet.
Is there anything we can do to block it?
We all know "mostly dead is partly alive" (Max the Wizard in The Princess Bride).
Well said
You mean "...slightly alive.".
And the character's name was Miracle Max, not "Max".
You are welcome.
I just happened to find your channel a couple days ago. I enjoyed it so much that I subscribed to it. You seem very smart on computers, so if you don't mind I have a question about a problem I have been experiencing with my Dell. When I turn it on, the monitor just blinks on for a fraction of a second then goes black. Usually I can turn the puter off and back on numerous times, and the screen might stay on. Other times I can turn the monitor off and on numerous times before it stays on. Do you by chance have any idea what is causing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Old capacitors in your monitor that need to be replaced. I have to turn my monitor on and off 6 times before it stays on and shows the windows 7 desktop. Order some capacitors for your monitor model on ebay.
ok thanks a lot, I will try that
What are you trying to say is the phone goes into hibernation in a sense, where it is idle and not using my power and the operator turned in on by a touch of a button and this way you have a quicker screen opening instead of a delay action if it was truly off.
Autistic children are wired differently than other people. They love electronic devices and will spend a lot of time playing various games on the tablets, if allowed. I wonder what the connection is. These people are very adept at using a computer. My grandson is 15 and I can't even describe how much he knows about using an electronic device. It's amazing. I worry about his eyes and his overall health. My daughter home schools him and he loves classical music as well as many different subjects that he learns about and can name a classical piece when he hears it, if it's one of his choices on his play list. He also loves being in a pool and would stay all day without coming out if he was allowed.
Very good and necessary info. Thanks for the video. I knew all this stuff but I know there are many people who don't and need to be made aware. :)
Any luck finding a microswitch fit to put onto back or side of a smartphone to physically break the positive voltage path between the battery and the phone?
Which video was it Scottie that you told us how to see what movements had been tracked on our iPhone by going to certain settings on our phone?
Alas, I don't think that was me...
@@ScottiesTech I'm pretty sure it was Scottie but I could be wrong, I often am! Perhaps I wasn't clear. It was something to do with tracking and I tried it on a friend's iPhone and it had scrolls of everywhere she had been e.g. '16, blah blah road, 10 times since March 10th' ! and a whole list of other places. It was shocking! I think it might have been something to do with 'location services' but I can't remember now to try it again! if it wasn't you perhaps someone else has seen it and can remind me please.
What do they look like so you destroy correct spy device?
Unfortunately, I love and need/want to use technologies such as smartphones and laptops and wifi and just have to live with the fact that there are some serious privacy risks. As far as smart TV's and IOT devices I most definitely can do without and will not own one. I wish there was a significantly higher pressure on companies to slow down with the push of all these technologize and focus on making them as secure as possible before being able to sell them.
great info, thanks for the vid
The poweron/poweroff at a set time works because the BIOS/CMOS needs a battery so that it doesn't lose its settings. (It also keeps track of time and can run very low-level programs)
All computers will work just fine without a CMOS battery. They'll just forget the time when plugged out from mains. BIOS settings on most modern systems are stored inside the BIOS flash chip
Learning, is a self-motivated process.
what about using a large saucepan with a lid and a block of wood in the bottom as a faraday, cage? I have been doing that for years, it seems like a good solution to me, but I'm no electrical engineer.
The main question we all have is totally skipped: What about when you take the battery out of the phone?? Come on man.
wake on lan reminds me of a lot of people I meet, they are kind of off.
And this is exactly the reason why BB processor firmware code is such a well guarded secret. Otherwise any hacker would be able to gain access.
There's two security models that can work if executed properly:
1: Security through obscurity
2: Security through transparency
Click read more if you're interested in my opinions on them.
Obscurity, a well guarded secret. If you can manage to not leak anything, or at least anything important and keep close tabs on anyone with access to documentation, you can make it work. By making sure all your secrets are locked away forever, you can control everything.
On the other hand you have transparency, displaying the inner workings for world to see. Making the docs public can result in much better security, as you now have thousands of researchers working towards a common goal. Not only that, when someone finds a problem, you now have thousands finding a solution, and thousands verifying said solution.
Both can work well, however, making it all public to start with is the only way to ensure security through transparency. Keep anything hidden, and now that's a point for exploit. For obscurity, let anything out, and if it reveals a flaw, all hell will break loose before things can be patched. Not to mention some people will find them anyway.
I may be biased as I have a strong interest in open source, but so far the track record has been proving that transparency is the better choice. However, the product must be designed, used and maintained with full transparency.
I'd personally love to see a certified and open source baseband processor. While it may definitely be possible, let's just say taking away the potential backdoors from certain people might put them in a really friendly mood. The only major issue from a design standpoint is carrier configuration and updates. Many of them wouldn't want the possibility of people seeing what configuration, security keys and code they send out, much less having them on a well documented platform. But, then again, if the companies aren't doing anything wrong with the baseband processor, and haven't implemented a flawed encryption algorithm, what are they afraid of?
bios is the base i/o system so it's the
system's system below the operating system
if that makes sense
think about it like it's a laptop and it was in idle for too long that's what you mean
I thought getting rid of my iPhone 6+ & getting a Samsung Rugby4 Flip Phone would stop them from Hoovering my data...what do you think? Great vids...thank you!
Hey thanks for your work!
Pretty sure the Seasonic Power supply in my PC has an physical off switch
Oh man, I just thought about my Echo Spot. She's on my night stand, if only she could think.
Dont you know demons use AI to enter our dimension? How else can a computer learn and become smarter on its own?
God Bless you for this great info.
3:04 to 3:22
EFI = Extensible Firmware Interface
UEFI = Unified Extensible Firmware Interface
UEFI is not the bios of a system. its a seperate partition since the UEFI standard got implemented and it exists for security reasons.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_system_partition
Question, if the battery is removed? Is it off?
Then you can be pretty sure it IS off.
If a day ever comes,where I have to go to ground ( hide from big brother )......I'm torn between attaching my phone to the catwalk of a random tractor trailer, or attaching my phone to a bus headed to Chicago. I'll probably hop a freight train headed another direction.
Scottie, Hi! I'm a new sub, and my question is: how do you spell Ralf's last name that you mentioned at 10:45; is it "Weinmann?"
Thanks!
Yes
Well off would be off if you took the battery out, or unplugged the tv or cut the power to your router, no need for the patch just use your finger on the power button it's gone.
Or unplug the camera or disconnect the wifi at the socket, job done.
It's so easy just to shut the world out, just cut the power.
That's something that always amazes me in some of the movies, they never seem to know how to flip the switch to shut the thing down.
Our houses have smart meters on them for our electricity!!
Why would I want a television with a camera, a microphone and the circuitry to turn them on remotely?
this is great. Thank You. the first time i unplugged my tv it took ssoo lo g gor the red l.e.d. light to fade off that i thought of The Terminator being melted down and the suspense of waiting for thr red light to go out in his eye. i now think of my tv as The Terminator. can you do a video on how to remove smart chips, cameras and microphones from a tv? i only use it for watching movies, but dont know if it will work if i pull out the smart chip. havent been able to find a good instructional video on it.
So why did You buy a Smart TV with a built in Camera AND a built in Microphone ?
tv's have massive capacitors in them, they can hold very high voltages for long periods of time without being plugged in.
Just.... don't buy a smart tv.
Turn off tv. Hold power button for a minute dto drain caps. Take all the screw off the back. Disconnect mic and cam.
I took apart some old landline telephones with the cord the the phone(You older guys know..)from like the 60s to the 90s and to me, it looked like one of them created a piezoelectric effect when the phone was hung up/(turned off for y'all millennials..) So that kinda made me wonder....If off was really off...
I think Cleatus is still tired.
even if yoursmartphone has a battery you can remove your still not safe because its not too uncommon for there to be a smaller battery inside the phone
But what if smartphomes with removable batteries have small hidden secret backup batteries inside? 😊🌽
I saw a hack a while ago, I think it was on hackaday.com, where a magnetic reed switch was used to disable the phone. In order to use the phone you had to place a magnet in the right spot to make the connection. This switch could possibly be used in one of the battery leads.
I was going to use it on the mic, but since have found Mic Lock which works.
But it doesn't cut power. The reed switch hack could do that. So I'm considering it...
Greetings from South Africa, and thanks for another insightful video ! Just came from watching your one on 5G. I've had a thought just now : Assuming one prefers to have no wifi in one's house - what would the effect be of running a signal blocker device in one's house - could that prevent 5G waves from passing through one's house, or would that add to it ?
Those are usually "jammers", so they also transmit and would add to the mess.
Right, thank you ! I simply thought what they transmit in order to jam, may be less than what they block from the incoming 5G.
Turn your house into a faraday cage--nothing wireless gets in or out
Wher are you sitting? @around 10:30 some one uses a toilet you can hear the shit passing thru the pips..loll
I love your conspiracies 💟
Can unplugging the tv/taking battery out of phone shut it off for real?
Yup, that will usually do the trick. Unless your phone doesn't have a removable battery!
And why, I wonder (rhetorically), are some batteries no longer removable? Could it possibly be so that Big Brother doesn't have to worry that a device would be truly off??
To make "off" really "off", all one needs is a power bar with an old-fashioned, mechanical switch. Simply plug your PC into one of those, turn the mechanical switch off, and you're good to stop.
the so called not-off word you are looking for is "dorment mode",i have my computer power cable connected to a multiple power out block with central switch,so every evening when i go to bed i switch off the power on that block,which switches off my external hard drive,monitor and computer,problem solved,a smartphone is another matter
I physically disconnect the power only way to be sure
Off is not off. It's just sleeping. :D
with an eye and ear open.
Subbed.
Misleading. Wake on LAN means going out from sleep, not turning on from off
at .30: always pisses me off when off is not off, wastes lots of power and helps spy networks.
I noticed when I switched over to Ethernet the Wi Fi on the modem was not disconnected I had to call Provider have Them turn off on Their end and also you must disable Wi Fi Radio in setting on your device.. (sneaky devils) ps: r/s God bless you and your good work pray Luke 21:36
When i turn my computer off I unplug the ether net cable
Motherboards have batteries.
So whats the answer then? Get used to it? I am pretty used to and good with my sledge hammer. Hack that Samsung. But seriously, wtf do we do? Pretty used to relying on the tech these days. Maybe a Virtual Sledge Hammer App?
@@drdangerstunts4624 It's like we are in a relationship with a person who is overly controlling. They have set it up so that if we want the lifestyle that we have become used to we have to obey the rules that come with the relationship.
It looks like the only way out is to just leave the tech. If we are going to keep the tech, we are going to have to give up our privacy.
My next concern is, will our govt. allow us to forsake the tech lifestyle? Or are they going to make it virtually impossible to live without it?
@@Inertia888 i think they will continue to create ways we cant live without it. Then they will require and insist. The beast is in our hands.
Most of us have a Smart Meter on our buildings. That makes the outlets in every room a conduit for gathering info. So different from the old rotaries.
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The ONLY (OFF) is when you unplug your devices from the wall! AND AIRPLANE MODE on your devices!
Airplane mode just disconnects you from the web. Your phone still records all your movement, trips on a bike or in a car, etc. so it can upload to the Google mothership as soon as you connect.
Airplane mode isn't shit
ya i knew this..so..on things i want Off..i pull the plug &/or pop the batts
Wrong.
It was NEVER about mechanical switches or cutting power.
If you are talking about a Faraday cage, you are talking about really powerful EMF and then, a little mechanical switch won't help at ALL with the INDUCED current on EVERYTHING conductive, like the motherboard conductive lines.
Also, the baseband processor is more about specialty functionality with the lowest possible power usage.
Just so the ARM processor, that uses a lot more power, can be halted to save power (while the baseband processor stays connected with the cell network).
take out cmos battery
It's RE-Volt'in ! - TV Cable Box's R da Worst OFFENDER's - [Phantom-Wise] - Tv's 2- / Throw da Switch the On POWER-Bar!!! YYZ , 60++NOOB ............
Funny how many ignorant luddites there are in the comments. Some of the stuff is true some isn't. I'm data analyst, all that big data about yourself you're worried about? Well I'm the boogey man you are all afraid of. I've written plenty of data collection software and data analysis algorithms for some of the "smart" products and IOT devices you're worried about and I'm no different than any of you. I'll tell you for you're own comfort and sanity that few of these things record what you think they do. Although the truth is just as scary, just different. Worry more about the accounts you have to register for everything, not cameras and microphones in your tv. I'm just a privacy concious as the rest of you, I'm not going into details right now because this comment has already become ridiculously long to write on my phone but, I don't start getting rid of technology if it brings you enjoyment. It's too late for you anyway if you've already used the internet. Companies don't give a shit what you do personally. Maybe what 1,000,000 random people in a certain age demographic and part of the country do, but you? They don't even know you exist. All the same, the biggest worry for us really is all the data being consolidated. I don't like the data collection myself, I find if fun and interesting, that's why I do what I do, but there is just so much misinformation. I don't even bother writing comments about it normally because I'd have to write a whole book, look what happened here... And I didn't even scratch the surface, just probably pissed people off lol.
Maybe you should write a book then. Lol
Double & or Dual Staged Power Switches R in - EVERYTHING - ! Standby Voltage is Required 4 Faster Fire-Up - [Soft-Start] Tyme B-Cause Everybody Does Not Want 2 Standby Whilst Their Electronic's Fire-Up ! [Also helps Manage Preset's & Software Storage /Auto Update's & Hardwired BATT-Life] . IGORE - Throw da Switch & Hurry Up & Wait - Da PIXIE's R Re-Volt'in !? - EVERYTHING & Everywhere The PHANTOM does Not Care - He Lives !!! U Can Step-Up or Step-Down But U Can't Transform or Turn OFF da - YYZ,60++NOOB...
Yep , while you sleep your phone is taking in info thst feeds that weather app nd who know what else...
PUT THE PHONE IN A SOUND PROFF FARIDAY CAGE. . THE PHONE WILL MISS YOU BUT YOU WILL BE A BETTER PERSON. YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE A MEANINGFULL INGAGMENT OR SEX EVEN!
11:45 haha nice thats exactly what i wrote of in another comment but, this this issue exists since at least 2006 and is
true for GSM Phones too. The Provider has total admin rights of your phone.
One of the many reasons i dislike smart phones, you have no true admin rights, they have higher right than you.
Its bovious that the industries dream of TCPA/TPM which was planned for windows vista first was just realised on smartphones first. The best video back in the old days: www.lafkon.net/tc/
btw these "security holes" are just a bad excusse, its done by design. Maybe the got venture capital ;D and had to do them a favour. NSA is not the only spy agency, imagine every country on earth hasa this type of evil intention so it doesnt matter if you have an iphone which sends to google(nsa) or a samsund which sends to the chinese. I bet USA and China trade the recrds behind closed doors like a currency ;D
pull out the battery. I'm serious guys chinese actually do things right sometimes.
Only dumb people still use smart phones
Welcome to schizophrenia tube!!
What is that supposed to mean?