Why Cheap Casios Make Great First Synths
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every toy keyboard is a treasure chest with a good effectpedal
This. Plus a good chance to practice your soldering skills by putting a 3.5 or 1/4 jack output in.
So true, some reverb really transforms basic keyboards
The truest insight i saw this year
Any tips for good beginner pedals?
@@itsJoel59 Zoom Multistomp MS-70CDR
I started making experimental electronic and abstract beat music back in the mid-90’s with a cheap Casio and Yamaha and bunch of guitar effects pedals for modulation, a portable CD player with sound effects and beat cd’s and recording on an old Tascam 424 portastudio. I also had a vcr that had a weird glitch in which it would loop about 2 or 3 seconds of the audio when you pressed pause which was fun to play around with. The best Casio I had (don’t remember the model) had 3 position sliders for all of the rhythm parts so you could change it up and do fills on the fly. Loved that thing.Pretty sure it was some of my most adventurous and creative music I’ve made.
is any of that music of yours on the internet? sounds interesting!
@@Guacamole1000 unfortunately, no. I still have the 4 track cassettes but no longer have a cassette 4 track. Lost previously transferred files when I lost a hard drive. Hoping to get them transferred again soon. Some of my later work which is primarily using a Korg Esx & Roland JX305 can be found on Bandcamp. Same username as here. It’s mostly wandering techy abstract & broken beat inspired rhythm experiments from the mid-late 00’s
@@intuitivecat just looked it up! Sounds great! Some of your songs give me the Bomberman Hero vibe which is my fave video game soundtrack!
Maybe your Casio was the MT 67
Heck yeah. I'm all about those cheap synthesizers. Already made a couple vids on an old Yamaha and an old Casio. This was a really lovely video!
Wish I still had my old CZ230s - made so much music on it back in the 80's/90's. Great fun working with it's limited sequencer. Used to run it through an old ZOOM 9000 into a DOD DFX94 then into my Fostex 4-track! Happy days! Nice vid, atb from the UK
My first synth was a Roland Juno 106 that I got for a massive price of $300. Its a shame you can't get one for that anymore, its the greatest synth to learn the basics on.
Lol I paid £110 for my Juno 6 which I sold for £300
The real killer was back in the day is I sold my CS15 for £50 an SH101 for £50 another one for £80 a Poly800 for £100 with a Siel EX80 expander and had my Vox Continental Stolen. And turned down Gary Numan's oberhiem OB8 for £650.
Several good points made here. Thanks!
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Just to let you know after watching your videos you and others on UA-cam have inspired me im 53 yrs old and disabled I can no longer work. I'm home always soo I thought put my time to good use and learn a new thing..I love electronic music newer like ambient..chill on sirius xm and older deep sounds like Depeche mode. Yazoo ect so just today I picked up my first synth and for what it is and what I paid its a no Brainer I just bought a slightly used casio WK-6600 for 110$ in amazing shape im so lit and can't wait to get started even came with stand and how to books ty for your inspired videos as maybe someday I can also inspire another person!!!!
I remember when you had 900subs!!! Amazing to see your growth
4:09: The CZ-230S can be programmed via MIDI SysEx! Editor/Librarian software for that purpose is available on the internet. If you want to dump your own creations into the CZ-230S, you have four slots available for that. The preset sounds 96 to 99 will be overwritten.
I love that you’re stoked on the CZ 230. Hoping you can provide some info on sequencing. Thanks!
Great video. You’re a very cool person. Thanks for this. I’ve been into synths for a while now and I love spending money on them, though it’s not paying off yet. 😭😭😭😭😭 it will though. Thanks for the inspiration on buying a cheap casio.
I love some of the older Casio devices. Sadly, they are going up in price. I got a Casio HT-6000 for £50 a year ago. A total bargain and my god, what a fun synth. Also picked up a cute Casio VL1 for £35 - such a tiny fun thing. The last part of my Casio collection is the DG-20... that is one weird bit of kit to use as a MIDI controller. SK1 is next on my list but trying to find one for reasonable money is tough.
Sell me that Casio please 🤣
@@chrisbogan402 which one, the HT-6000? No chance, as to replace it it would cost me a lot more than the £50 I bought it for! You can still pick up the HT3000 for ok money.
@@fatkev1983 I’m just hoping to find a keyboard like that soon 🤞🏽🙏🏾
Good vlog as always .
I would have liked to hear some of your old casios ! . I had the drum pad casio and gave it away (regret) I still have my CTK 611 and is awesome . It has a place in many of my tracks . It sounds amazing through my alesis nanoverb with the chorus/reverb multi effect . I got my CTK 611 for $40 at a pawn shop .(dude threw in a power supply)
I use it as a midi controller often too .
The classic "toy" Casios are getting up there in price...
And being advertised as “synthesisers” when they’re not.
Actually found one at a used store that I cleaned up turns out they're going for $100+
It’s worth knowing that the cz230s has the same architecture as the cz101 and while it appears to be presets only you can edit 4 of those using sysex and an external editor via MIDI. The bulk of the presets on the 230s are really quite nice too.
Great information. I have a 9 volt power supply hooked into the 7.5 input on my SK-1 and was wondering if the Casio cared. I own a couple Yamaha’s too pss-270 and pss-470. So fun! All purchased for between $5-$12 at thrift stores
Spotted an MT-100, my first ever keyboard. 12th birthday present in 1984. Bought one for £30 last year, love it!
Keep meaning to sample the analog drums.
Yea, agreed and you can also circuit bend them easily with battery! Keep rocking it.
Great job! I'm not into these, but I do have a Casio CDP 100 that I gigged with for YEARS! I have a soft spot for Casio.
thank you !!!!! this was really useful!!
These portables were such a big deal in the 80’s. Having grown up in the 70’s, even a basic board like the Casiotone CT-101 or 102 would have fantastic to own back when.
Your content is so dope im mad i just recently found your channel
I have a huge collection of Casio keyboards which have all been thrift store finds (it's just as much fun to buy something of eBay as it is to hunt them in the wild). I always find the built in auto accompaniments to be very inspiring for creating new music.
Jade, I wondered what happened to you and there you are on Reverb! Cool! BTW, I dug out an old Casio MT-68 that I had stowed deep in one of our closets. I cleaned it up and it works great! I forgot how much fun they were. Take care!
Nice- my friend is borrowing my MT-68, it is fun. Hope all is well, say hi to the mrs. for me!
Totally agree. Casio make great instruments. Always had a blast with Casio in the 1980s. Forty years later just bought a new Casio model and having so much fun!
For a power source you can use a cell phone power bank and a step up cable to your appropriate voltage of your keyboard. That way you dont have to worry about messing up your keyboard.
Realistic concertmate was the brand Casio sold keyboards under for RadioShack. They are the same keyboards but usually can be bought for way less than Casio branded
There is a music keyboard teacher that has a youtube video where he plays Bach prelude on a casio pt87 with a little reverb pedal and it sounds just wonderful.
I found a Casio CT-360 for $20 that sounds pretty cool. I'm excited to learn on it
you can use 9V packs on 7.5V although the components internally are running at a different value of current; which considering how cheap those keyboards are, means that you severely reduce their life expectancy. Not a big deal if you run them 30m or 1h every now and then, but for daily usage that is like running a car in 2nd gear in the red RPM zone for miles and miles every day... It works, but it is only a matter of time before it break :)
True. I had a Casio mini keyboard, and fried something in it by doing that.
Mini keys are great. Would be nice if more synths had them. It's also nice when synths are designed like desktop modules, but with a tiny set of keys attached, like just two octaves, to allow it to be played when a better keyboard isn't attached. The Microbrute is a good example.
A bit more than one year ago, thanks to one of your videos, i bought my first synth: an Arturia Microbrute.
Not a good choice to learn how to play, but definitely an excellent choice to learn the basics of music synthesis.
One year, various synths, and ~8k Eur down the drain later, i am enjoying this hobby as if it was the first day.
Time to look for a Casio, i guess.
Thank you.
The Microbrute is fun and educational. Some of its features are surprisingly difficult to achieve on other synths though, because it's so dirty and misbehaves a lot. I thought I would get rid of my Microbrute after upgrading, but I'm keeping it around for the things only it can do. It's just so good at nasty, broken, glitchy sounds...
@@ToyKeeper indeed.
Got a Hydrasynth and a bunch of Behringers under my belt (Neutron being the best of all
@@mescaLEO I upgraded to a Pro 3, and hope to get a Hydrasynth at some point too. It seems like the Microbrute will probably stick around though, since it's too cheap to sell, too small to use much space, and too much fun to let go of. Plus, I got the red version and it's really pretty.
Omg that unicorn SK-1 is beautiful
I miss my MT-40. For a modern cheapkey check out the PSS-A50. Nice velocity sensitive keybed. Several drum kits and a basic sequencer. Yamaha XG-like tones. Lots of voices and an FX insert. MIDI over USB. I've bought a couple for my nieces and nephews as gifts but they would be fine for an adult
You don't have to go vintage. Yamaha and Casio still make entry-level keyboards. A new one is probably a better first synth, unless you find something cheap or free.
Woman you're cute! But I heard no fridge! You must have your low cut filter engaged on your audio. Keep up the good work and thanks for all the information.I've been binging your stuff.
I have a WK-1800, got it for $15 at a thrift store, it is amazing and fun.
The only Casios i started with, as a kid in the 90s, were these super noisy ROMpler types and the one i had sadly had a loud swish noise each time you pushed a button. So changing parameters like Tempo for accompanying melodies, volume and the presets, were all tainted by an audible SWISH in the recording but never the less i did record a few things with it because it was still better than having NO keyboard at all. These button sounds, that could not be turned off, was really what i hated the most on these cheaper keyboards.
I'm actually learning how to play the keyboard with a Casio MT-65 that I found on eBay last week
The Casio and Yamaha starter portable keyboards are great starter instruments. If you really want to advance at playing keyboard it is nice to have a reliable instrument to just turn on - run scales - do your daily practice routine vs. loading up a DAW with a MIDI Controller. I saw my keyboard playing improve quickly this way, and then when I did go to record with my DAW setup or hardware synth setup I was a far better player. These can also be used as a lofi keyboard to record with if you can hunt down 10-20+ bread and butter sounds, turn off the internal reverb and then track into your recorder and add more FX to get a more pro sound there. Makes a big difference to feel a keyboard under your hands with NO latency.
The later Yamaha PSR kb’s have pretty good sound, and USB audio in & out, as well as MIDI. I like the feel on the keys of Casio’s CTK/CTX series more, though, even if the sounds aren’t quite as good (and the USB is only MIDI without audio).
Last summer I picked up one of the Casio CGPs and it makes a nice 88key controller. To me the feel is similar to the more expensive Yamaha MX88 (or MODX8), and much better than Roland or Korg entry level kbs, but of course the CGP has just a few hundred (actually nice, but non programmable) presets, rather than being a synth. It’s just a ROMpler in the truest sense.
I picked up a 1987 Casio HT-6000 for $300 au on the weekend. Not sure about this one, it’s uses traditional analog subtractive synthesis with a twist (not VA).
It’s got 4 DCOs per voice - with 64 waveforms, sounds very PPG on a good day.with your standard wave forms to ring modulation using
dco-based oscillators.
And that’s 4 DCO’s for all 8 voices! This can be split at set amounts of split.
And of course, 8 vintage analog 24db low-pass resonant VCFs (per voice, eight voices).
A pretty decent 5 octave keyboard, fully programmable drum machine based on the famous Casio RZ-1 (but extended - patterns and fills can be saved written and recalled, programmed (with the keys and saved)
last, not leastOh,
And last but not least, it’s got speakers!!!!
This is amazing because it seriously made me do a double take and I found it twice before I clicked - it was up on eBay for 8 days at 300au).
Know how to identify? It’s the only Casio with a Alpha Junko/Waldorf Microwave front spin dial jog spin thing.
…, oh, and an analog BBD chorus - which sounds, pretty much just like the Roland Junos.
Dreams can come true - and synth nerds have been sleeping on this for a while. Oh, and it’s got speakers, made me do a double take (it was up on eBay for 8 days at 300au).
My serial no is 12. Good luck!
A year ago I found a Yamaha PSS 21 synth from the early 90s in perfect working order in the trash.
it sounds great, and these sounds are deliciously lo-fi and tonally just right.
i have old Roland JV 30 from 90' holy crap it's awesome
You made a good point here! I sold my yamaha prs-300 few years ago and kinda regret it now. I didn't know I would like to use polyphony (gear had few faulty keys, but that was the rubber thingies) Well you learn as you make mistakes :(
I had both a PT-1 and a PT-10 in the late 1980s.
Annnd they make great fun for circuit bending! Haha
I still have 3 or 4 Casio synths gathering dust under my bed. Unfortunately I don't sell on eBay but I do need to get them gone along with a few old drum machines.
Hello, Jade. I am from Brazil.Your chanel is great. I am interested in buying a mini keyboard, but there's not too many options available today. We have the new SA76/77/78 and some Yamaha, but I realized that the old ones are the real good ones. In Brazil I found Casio MA 120 and MA 150. Do you know them? Thanks a lot.
Also, you need a Casio VL-1. It will round out your collection.
Looking for one with input to plug in to small amp - in a 4 part harmony group doing AM 70’s pop for sting lines, horn lines, a nice piano sound… which is the best smallest one?
I had a casio ck1000 I think. sold it like 14 years ago. .... I remember the drum sounds were cheap as hell, but it had the most beautiful grand piano sounds I ever heard AND it had that Octave bend wheel which I love. - SO.... What model or brand would you steer me towards??? Under 150.00
I have a real soft spot for "consumer" synths like the CZ230s, MT-400V, HT series and Yamaha PSS/DSR FM keyboards.
As soon as you turned to look at your fridge because it's loud, my fridge turned on at the exact same moment.
You could also hooked up a Casio to a interface like did
I have a casio wk-110 that lets you do it the only problem with that Cassio is literally you cannot put samples in but other than that you could Loop your ideas as long as you want on it for $70
Estate sales are good for old keyboards, too. Pro tip: bring a power supply or two. I found a Casiotone CT-460 for super cheap because no one could test it to confirm it worked, but I brought a power supply! Works like new.
Which power supply do you bring
@@shaneo2351 The CT-460 just happens to use the same power was guitar pedals (center negative 9v) so I brought my OneSpot I had laying around. Just make sure you use the correct voltage and polarity and you're golden.
Casio MT-70 is my fave, only one or two good soundbanks, but god damn are they snazzy
You deserve more views
what is that casio u showed a lot in this with vibrato effect slider?
A synth is different from a keyboard.
I'd say a beginner on a budget is way better off getting a $100-200 midi controller with at least 3 octaves (these can also be found for closer to $50 if you're cool with used gear) and then a bunch of soft synths (which can be had for free). You get way more variety in what you can do. Then you can get into subtractive synthesis or FM synthesis or if you prefer you can just use presets.
Also I love your sk1
Please make a complete process of making a song without using DAW. Or suggest cheap DAWless hardware for home studio.
have you tried circuit bending on one of your keyboards? :o
So... The minimum we should get is a 49 keys one? 32 and 44 are not really ideal for beginners?
What about newer casio keyboards? Any other brands that are (easy) to find and are worth it?
Midi keyboard and softsynth with either pc or smartphone, more versatile, cheap, powerful
Cool.👍
I bought a ‘toy’ Casio from 1987 for $300 Aud. It was sitting in the cupboard for years. Screen protector is still on the screen.
Clearly worth $300aud, but it’s only got 4 DCOs per voice (with 64 waveforms), only 8 analog low-pass VCFs (per voice, eight voices), this crappy 5 octave keyboard, ability to split the keys and play two patches at once, a fully programmable drum machine (patterns and fills can be programmed and saved) and last, not least, an analog BBD chorus - which sounds so average, pretty much just like the Roland Junos. Very underpowered, clearly.’
It’s the Casio HZ-6000, flagship of the Casio SD line - 4 DCOs w/64 waveforms, ring mod, noise (and an independent noise envelope) plus velocity sensitive DCA and VCF.
Yeah, it’s pretty crap and obviously super underpowered.
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Congrats! You made it through my attempt to make it sound awful. It’s 10x better than an Alpha Juno - even takes the Roland JX8-P a run for it’s money. Well, you could buy 7 Casio HT-6000’s for one JX8-P… just remember that these things are rare. My serial number is 12.
Good hunt in’, reply here if you find one! None for sale on the entire web for the last week.
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I just got a Casio CTK-2550 for $20 is that good idk but they even labeled the keys which makes learning easier for me
I had 3 big casios, and two of them had the keys that light up which is my keyboard skill level (played Drums since 1980, wanted to try keyboard and guitar), aka Zero. I was broke and pawned them, like a total idiot, along with my Bose headphones and Puch bike they are my biggest regret in stuff that I pawned. Now I can't even find those light up Casio Keyboards at any price. This chick is totally cool, just happened upon these videos trying to figure out how to get sound out of Rockjam RJMK25 keyboard without a computer.
Good thing I have two old 1980s Casios.
Sample the fridge! Haha
What's better Casio keyboard or synth to make darkwave, goth, post punk etc?
I recommend a ctx 700 for beginners that can afford it.
It is a very capable instrument for its price.
Now the hipsters will buy up EVERYTHING! :-)
What Casio is at 7:56?
Does that apply to the Casio CT 650 and 670 which I got?
The CT 670 is a perfect example of a good Casio. The sounds take effects really well and stand out with a lot of character.
Que loco que te gusten los Casio por dónde vivo yo en el sur de Argentina por mucho tiempo fueron los únicos teclados que se conseguían ya que los comercios no importaban otras marcas
How does one learn keys? I hear you mention working on your jamming skills, do you have any course or book recommendations?
practice practice practice. I don't have any courses yet, but there's lots of good keyboard learning videos on youtube already!
Take piano lessons. You’ll learn finger dexterity and after working through a book or two, you’ll be writing the best songs you’ve ever written.
What do you think about buying a Casio WK-200 for my first keyboard? I’m looking into buying one. I had a chance to buy a Casio Casio SA-75 at a thrift store but it was broken. lol
Not familiar with that model, but $200 is a bit steep
@@JAdeWii_ WK-200 was $89 with the stand and stool. I decided not to get it. I went back to the store to check it out. The SA-75 was $10.
It all started with “cheap Casios” for me. 😎
Are those cheap casios good for dungeon synth???
Which model is the one you showed in the case? That is a beautiful one indeed!
Casio MT-70!
Just get a contemporary 61 key keyboard with MIDI out. I recommend the Casio CT-S1 or the Casio CT-S400. The CT-S1 is for people do not want the arrange features. The CT-S400 is for people who want the arranger features. These instrument are in the $200-$250 price range. They have an "almost" semi-weighted action, velocity keys and good tone. 61-key Yamahas are good too and perhaps cheaper, but the cheaper ones have unweighted keys and no velocity. It gets down to what you can work with, but if you can create using a keyboard and a DAW program, you can work with anything.
You need a 61-key keyboard because without at least 61 keys, you cannot learn real keyboard skills. Basic keyboard skills are the same today as they were in the 19th Century when all instruments were acoustic.
I own many oldschool Casios, but you need research before you buy, because there are many synthesis types, and there are many similar models with the same synthesis and sounds. It's confusing for a newcomer. There is Classic Casio "Consonant Vowel" Synthesis (partly analogue, great warm sound, example: Casio MT 65), which i highly recommend, Sine wave (Casio MT 70), Phase Distortion (Casio Cz), Samplers (Casio SK), and finally samples / wavetables (all Casios after circa 1990). The best is to check sound videos before buying.
Just get the Yamaha PSS A50, it has everything for modern music production. Unlike the Casio SA 76 which does not have usb midi out.
Check out Casio HT-series. It´s a nice analogue synthesizer in a cheesy package. :-)
Today I found my first keyboard in a thrift store. It is a casio PT-380 and I got it for 5$ 😊
I got a KORG MicroSTATION for cheap... you can get a synth for cheap if you look.
i came up on the sk8 for 20 at the thrift store.
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Did you make the outro? Sounds nice
Yeah, the CZ-101 is a great little synth, but getting a bit spendy, and hard to find!
sold mine for 300 euro's, yeah def not cheap. But it's a quality synth tbh just really cumbersome.
They're expensive as a used synth in my country :c
They are a great choice. You can at least learn music theory! This skill will become invaluable later on. 😊 also funfact, casio used to make calculater watches! They are a great brand.
I'm wearing a ca53w right now lol
just this week got my hands on yamaha pss-680, i was surprised say the least, and a very pleasant on. I have a feeling my wallet will be very upset about this video.
SA-10 4 life
Pawnshops know what they have nowadays
It makes a lot of sense what she said