A few more thoughts on mega evolution: This video focuses pretty heavily on the fact that mega evolutions were modified in so many different ways, but it also serves as a great way to bring old Pokemon back from the dead. Mawile went from one of the worst Pokemon in the game to one of the best, and so did Sableye. It’s an unconventional way to balance the game and give more Pokemon niches in battle, but many of the previously weaker Pokemon do appreciate it. Oftentimes, we wind up making videos shorter than we would like, because we don’t want them to get too long. We could have gone on and on about other cool stuff like Heracross getting Skill Link or the cool upgraded designs we got, but we want to upload videos consistently. The longer our script is, the longer it’ll take to turn it into a finished video. We leave a lot of things on the cutting room floor, to ensure that we get at least one video out every week. Mega evolution is the most flexible of the generational gimmicks, and that’s our favorite part about it. But we’ll acknowledge that there’s a lot of other cool aspects of the mechanic that we didn’t talk about today. Whenever we cover a topic like this where there are zillions of things we could discuss, I just start writing the script and see where it takes me. Anything that doesn’t make it into the final product goes into my notes for later, so who knows? Maybe we’ll revisit this topic some other time.
The X megastones always felt like they were artificially made. Maybe silph co. or some other entity. Meanwhile Y felt very natural evolutions of the Pokemon.
That's potentially a cool detail but honestly knowing how little thought the XY devs put into basically every aspect of the plot, narrative and themes I'm pretty sure it was accidental.
Fun fact: Alakazam was the only pokémon at the time that didn't have a 100 base power boost when mega evolving. That's because at the same time, Alakazam got 10 points to its special defense, Increasing its BST to 500, but Game Freak didn't program its mega evolution well and gave it 90 points instead. This was fixed in Sun and Moon.
Mega Abomasnow with Slush Rush (or a Sand Force clone for snow/hail) 😨 oh wait it only has 30 speed nevermind it's still not outspeeding anything even with a boost
to be honest. Mega Evolutions are by far the BEST generational gimmick, and its a good way to power up otherwise weak pokemon, instead of giving regional variants or weak upgrades to all pokemon. as you said, mawile is a pretty bad pokemon, but its mega made it a force to be feared. dynamax and gigantamax never did such a thing nor has z-moves or terralizing. Gamefreak really should just keep expanding upon this ideer, giving weak pokemon megas, and populare mega users extra mega forms. sure they made some mistakes (mega-rayqazza was not needed.) but if they fokus on weak, or rarely ysed yet beloved pokemon, then megas could become one of the best thing that has happende to the pokemon series.
Vibrava is one of the BEST middle stage Pokémon. The metamorphosis of an Antlion is resembled well, while still bearing a resemblance to Flygon. It also doesn’t look awkward, like a lot of middle stages tend to.
@blaz_69 That's less of a problem in doubles where there are many ways to heal your ally. But in singles Aggron definitely needs a better recovery move than rest. Wish support might work there
Vibrava (and it's evolution line) need a new ability: reverberation. It makes them immune to sound based moves and they reflect those moves back with 1/2 power. Even sound based status moves will be reflected back with half potency.
That would be nice. But it would be weird if Flygon couldn't evade Ground-type moves. But I guess it makes more sense than Bronzong. Surely, in universe, you should be able to immediately tell if that bell is floating (Levitate) or not (Heatproof). Maybe pull a Water Bubble and give it three abilities in one: Soundproof + Reverberation + Levitate. It wouldn't be OP, and folks would still opt for Garchomp.
...that makes no sense like what, you hit it with roar and you get half phazed out? people have been messing with the flygon line like this for ages, come up with something original
While I won't deny that it's REALLY cool that Mega Evolution have Pokemon buffs they REALLY needed, and some Megas completely changes a Pokemon's playstyle like Pidgeot and Diancie stated in the video. And personally I like how they designed Mega Garchomp, it's like they knew Garchomp is already very powerful so they cut Garchomp's speed by 10 and then boost its offenses and bulk for its Mega.... But then they ditched that entirely going into ORAS as they create Mega Metagross and Salamence. But personally, a problem I have with Megas is that it comes with an opportunity cost competitively, basically they cannibalize each other. A Pokemon can have a solid Mega, but there would be very little reason to run it instead of one of the other Megas that are significantly stronger or more useful. And every Mega is not treated equally like Audino and Ampharos. Personally, I think it's probably better for a Pokemon to get a PERMANENT buff in the form of new Evolutions or Regional forms because they can persist on indefinitely, unlike Mega Evolution which can come and go without much warning. As we see with Pokemon like Gliscor, Weavile, Kingambit, Annihilape, Archaludon, etc. and alternate forms like Alolan Ninetales, Alolan Marowak, Garmanitan, Obstagoon, Hisuian Samurott, Hisuian Zoroark, Sneasler etc
All of those you mentioned are evolutions btw. You mention regionals as improvements but they don't do anything to improve the original. For example, H-Samurott doesn't make OG Samurott any better
@edgargaebolg9307 Oops, forgot to add examples of Regional forms. And yes while it doesn't improve upon the original Pokemon, it however makes older Pokemon more relevant with a new coat of paint by adding new potential typings, movesets and even a new playstyle entirely. Like base Zoroark's Illusion ability is nice, but it's not able to take advantage of it very well because of its pure Dark typing not really having good resistances or immunities to take advantage of. Hisuian Zoroark however comes with a Normal Ghost typing which grants it 3 immunities to Normal, Fighting and Ghost allowing it to either safely switch into Close Combats, Shadow Balls, block Rapid Spin etc. and it does a MUCH better job at forcing mindgames with your opponent as it has 3 immunities. And even then, the Pokemon still share the same name and Pokedex number. It's a different form of the same species. Not like Tentacool and Toedscool which are entirely different species in-universe. (Despite ironically sharing the exact same base stats)
Here's a comment of Vibrava. Vibrava's evolution, Flygon, is probably one of the most popular choices people have when speculating new mega evolutions, they really want the Mega Flygon (and maybe the Bug/Dragon type combo too)
It was soooooo good 😢 I'm glad its coming back, but i honestly wish it'd never left. Just more stones being added each gen. (Terra is quite cool too, so I wouldn't get rid of that, but Dynamax is very meh, and I wouldn't be butt-hurt if Z-Moves had never been made.)
While Megas are my favorite gimmick in terms of lore and thematics, I can’t speak too highly of them gameplay wise. Poor campaign balance aside, a ton of Megas ended up being popularity picks and/or ones that didn’t need the buff, resulting in the opportunity cost factor of the mechanic to leave the comparatively weaker or less popular Megas that had more to gain in the dust, because which would you rather bring to a serious battle: Mega Salamance or Mega Camerupt. It also ended up being nothing more than a bandaid fix in the long run, suffice to say when your potential viability is tied to a gimmick that isn’t directly built into your design, then you’re just gonna go back to being terrible once the gimmick is gone; going a step further, because Megas are for fully evolved Pokémon only, mons like Mawile & Sableye can never hope for a permanent buff in the form of a cross gen evolution (this is why I will never wish a Mega upon a single or two stage Pokémon, like Ledian).
Vibrava and flygon (and any potential mega flygon) should get an ability like pixilate, but make it bug instead. Unfortunately still not a bug-dragon type, but its getting there
I feel really bad about how highschool me felt about Megas, I was a huge hater when they came out and only changed my mind when they added more in ORAS. I almost feel like had I tried to like them in XY maybe they'd've kept making em into Gen VII
I saw an interesting buff to it in a fangame where they buffed the accuracy of the move to 90 and basically made it a normal type version of pollen puff. Said fangame is pokemon flux which has a heavy emphasis on double battles, so I could see this move being used more often with these buffs
Mega Evolution wasn't utilized the best by the devs. Several Pokemon that got it didn't need it, like Salamence, Gengar or Tyranitar. Some of the ones that _did_ need a boost weren't gifted with enough power or have been given the wrong kind of boost, examples being Blastoise or Banette. A few defensive ones like Audino or Steelix had too much of an opportunity cost to be worth using in PvP. What I'm trying to say is: Mega Evolution had its flaws in how it was executed and I think it's worth pointing out, if only to avoid sounding like an obsessive fanboy who sees nothing wrong with his favourite. It's still a really cool mechanic that helped several Pokemon immensely. There's a reason why it's so beloved _(besides nostalgia and "being the first", of course)._
@robertlupa8273 oh wow, the rare Pokémon fan that can discuss megas flaws and like it without acting like it killed they family, glad to hear it! one thing I would add is the amount of megas for Pokémon that should've gotten actual evolutions instead, the most common examples being Sableye and Mawile, that being said I also had X as my first game and loved using Zard X and Mawile and Megas did pave the way for more generational gimmicks to be made so the good def outweighs the bad
They dislike the fact that mega garchomp loses its coveted 102 speed but I like how its gameplay changes from a speedy attacker to more of a wallbreaker.
Yeah um, its there but if you are gonna speed drop to below 100 means you have to actually live an ice move. Garchomp was fast enough to bypass that weakness by just going first, mega garchomp doesnt have that luxury
@@Aegisdex That's a good point. Suddenly Ice types with 95 (Jynx and Kyurem forms) and 100 speed can outspeed mega garchomp. Is there any way to mitigate that weakness with your other 5 team mates in singles or allies in doubles?
For some reason vibrava mass outbreaks are _really_ common in the Savannah Biome, like, a one in three chance I see one every day. Does anyone else have it, or is it just me?
VGC players in shambles rn. Megas were such a mid mechanic in VGC being so centralizing, overpowered, and generally being stupid. It’s like a trash single restricted format. But they’re cool so ig it maybe gets a pass.
Mega evolution is terrible because it’s a band-aid to a problem not a solution If they really wanted to buff mawile they would’ve given her a evolution not a mega Imo, EVERY SINGLE MEGA is pointless and could’ve been a buff, an evo, or nothing (in the case of mons like garchomp)
True, but with how Gamefreak is seemingly allergic to giving meaningful buffs to Pokémon like the early route bugs and other weaker Pokémon that got Megas. I’d have love to see the weaker Pokémon who got Megas keep some of the buffs their Megas gave them after they were removed. Like for example, their Megas just becoming regular Evolutions or getting toned down versions of their stats In the case of Pokémon like beedrill. I generally most people do agree with the sentiment of Pokémon like Grachomp not needing Megas. Specially when they’re pointless like Garchomps. Regardless, they are cool and people love them.
Nah, call it unpopular opinion or not but megaevolution is easly one of the worst mechanics ever introduced. Its very limited, giving advantages to only a very restricted portion of pokemon and frankly, it does it in the most lazy way poossible. If i remember correctly it only gives the pokemon +100 inbase stats and a new ability (most of the times useless). its also the most braindead gimmick, you almost NEVER chose to not evolve the pokemon, giving it 0 strategical value. damn you even have to waste your item slot to give your pokemon the stone, which makes it even less creative and strategical. if they really wanted to buff some pokemons they cound have just give them straight up new evolutions, looking at sebleye, mewhaile, banette ecc...
While I do agree with most of your points, Tbf, it was the first generational gimmick and the designs of the Pokémon chosen get better more often than worse, you say is limited now also but fail to mention Legends: Z-A, seeing as how Legends: Arceus was received, they could change the usual formula and add a good chunk more megas, for strategical use it actually does have value, mega sabeleye was a weak defensive stall Pokémon in its base form and giving it magic bounce is waay better than at least stall in that sense, (also he's really cute when he hides behind his gem) Gyarados too, who is argue got better with it's mega, since it's a physical flying type that isn't a bird, it didn't get good STAB, but upon mega evolving, it gets the dark type, which is a notable type for it's physical STAB and lets not forget that the Pokémon at LEAST have a slightly better buff than Z-moves, which also take up an item slot and you can only use them once per battle, difference is they have a high BP and bypass accuracy checks... Now don't get me wrong, I don't hate them or anything, and Sure it was nice to score a KO in a pinch with a flashy animation but that only lasts a few seconds, and while we're at it, there's also the casual side of Pokémon's insanely large fanbase, some megas actually have a decent reason for existing, like making canons for "what-ifs", you know, things poketubers have in at least 10 of their videos, though that said, I do wish sabeleye and mawile hadn't gotten the treatment in hindsight, but it's definitely good enough if it's able to stay in more than one generation of games made, take it as you will, but that's my two cents
Nah the other newer gimmick mechanic is way more boring and and less interesting. Z moves is literally just a much stronger move, dynamax is literally just way stronger mega evolution on crack where only a few pokemon had gigantomax that changed the appearence. The gimmick of generation 9 is just lame they look like a damn tree.
@@DemiCapeyeah the z moves are trash and giga max lazy, but at least every pokemon can use it. They are not relegated to 30 pokemon out of 1000+. Eveb tough I'm not the biggest fan either at least those 2 gimmicks cannot be thrown instantly and require a minimal thinking. Tera looks desgusting but it's by far the most strategic one and with the highest skill gap of the bunch.
@d4nmark22 you are not wrong, as i said megas are not a worthless mechanic and they have some very few strateegic aspects. the issue i have with a lot of them is with exaclty one of the pokemon you mentioned: take as an example sebleye, why did gamefreak just give it a straight up new evolution? i get that you cound want to switch between prankster and magic bounce but it so niche it doesnt justify relegating the stage just for 2 out of the entire pool of the mainline games. coudnt mawhile as an example just get a new evolution instead of a mega? they cound have gave them an even biggest bump in statistic along with its signature ability. even with gyarados the point is the same, why coudnt they just give it a new evolution? the bump in statistic coud have been achieved regardless and the switcharoo between the types is possible thanks to the tera mechanic and it doesnt even take the item slot.
and finally, i didnt talk about ZA because we litterally dont know anything about the games. yes they can come out with 30+ new mega or with 5. you litterally have no way to tell if the megas werent just shoved in the games as a cash grab like they did in x&y. and yes it was litterally confirmed by the tera leak that megas were tought as the ultimate fanservice mechanic made to grab the attention of the older player after the black/white fiasco.
A few more thoughts on mega evolution:
This video focuses pretty heavily on the fact that mega evolutions were modified in so many different ways, but it also serves as a great way to bring old Pokemon back from the dead. Mawile went from one of the worst Pokemon in the game to one of the best, and so did Sableye. It’s an unconventional way to balance the game and give more Pokemon niches in battle, but many of the previously weaker Pokemon do appreciate it.
Oftentimes, we wind up making videos shorter than we would like, because we don’t want them to get too long. We could have gone on and on about other cool stuff like Heracross getting Skill Link or the cool upgraded designs we got, but we want to upload videos consistently. The longer our script is, the longer it’ll take to turn it into a finished video. We leave a lot of things on the cutting room floor, to ensure that we get at least one video out every week.
Mega evolution is the most flexible of the generational gimmicks, and that’s our favorite part about it. But we’ll acknowledge that there’s a lot of other cool aspects of the mechanic that we didn’t talk about today. Whenever we cover a topic like this where there are zillions of things we could discuss, I just start writing the script and see where it takes me. Anything that doesn’t make it into the final product goes into my notes for later, so who knows? Maybe we’ll revisit this topic some other time.
The X megastones always felt like they were artificially made. Maybe silph co. or some other entity. Meanwhile Y felt very natural evolutions of the Pokemon.
Just as unnatural as the fact team flare invented fairy types.
@@ashmander3465 Where is that stated? I'm not doubting you, I've just never heard that before so I wanna fact check it.
@@YosiahW joke
You should have doubted them because Xerneas and Enamorus are fairy lol
@@YosiahW
That's potentially a cool detail but honestly knowing how little thought the XY devs put into basically every aspect of the plot, narrative and themes I'm pretty sure it was accidental.
when ZA comes out, I hope more Pokemon get the Aggron buff of losing a type. it’s such a fascinating way to improve a Pokemon with bad defenses
Mega shedinja loses bug ghost
@@saucerv2425 i know this is a joke, but imagine a bug/steel mega shedinja that keeps wonder guard
Fun fact: Alakazam was the only pokémon at the time that didn't have a 100 base power boost when mega evolving. That's because at the same time, Alakazam got 10 points to its special defense, Increasing its BST to 500, but Game Freak didn't program its mega evolution well and gave it 90 points instead. This was fixed in Sun and Moon.
Funny thing… Hyper Cutter does in fact “cut hyperly” when you were able to us cut in the overworld.
I would love a base pokemon that has weather setting ability
Then the mega has an ability that takes advantage of it
Mega Abomasnow with Slush Rush (or a Sand Force clone for snow/hail) 😨
oh wait it only has 30 speed nevermind it's still not outspeeding anything even with a boost
@robertlupa8273 Snow cloak?
@@nellewoodruff6337 Snow Cloak gives evasion, which is cheesy, so I didn't consider it.
@robertlupa8273 Well, I'm dumb. I read your comment as "or a sand *veil* clone for snow/hail" my bad
to be honest. Mega Evolutions are by far the BEST generational gimmick, and its a good way to power up otherwise weak pokemon, instead of giving regional variants or weak upgrades to all pokemon. as you said, mawile is a pretty bad pokemon, but its mega made it a force to be feared. dynamax and gigantamax never did such a thing nor has z-moves or terralizing.
Gamefreak really should just keep expanding upon this ideer, giving weak pokemon megas, and populare mega users extra mega forms.
sure they made some mistakes (mega-rayqazza was not needed.) but if they fokus on weak, or rarely ysed yet beloved pokemon, then megas could become one of the best thing that has happende to the pokemon series.
Vibrava is one of the BEST middle stage Pokémon. The metamorphosis of an Antlion is resembled well, while still bearing a resemblance to Flygon. It also doesn’t look awkward, like a lot of middle stages tend to.
Honestly, I’d love it if a lot of the new Mega Evolutions in Legends Z-A were of Unova, Alola, Galar, and Paldea’s Pokemon.
And if they can exclusively buff weaker mons instead that would be swell
I hope mega/base aggron get good recovery when he comes back, yes lets give this massive pokemon that is meant to take hits unable to heal
@blaz_69 That's less of a problem in doubles where there are many ways to heal your ally. But in singles Aggron definitely needs a better recovery move than rest. Wish support might work there
All they need to do is make Slack Off more distributed
@@_Koyomi_ snorlax getting slack off is an idea I can get behind but it doesn't make sense for Aggron
give him shore up, surely that won't break the game
Just got a 2ds since my previous ones broke. Z moves and Megas brought me so much nostalgia to get the system
Vibrava (and it's evolution line) need a new ability: reverberation. It makes them immune to sound based moves and they reflect those moves back with 1/2 power. Even sound based status moves will be reflected back with half potency.
That would be nice. But it would be weird if Flygon couldn't evade Ground-type moves.
But I guess it makes more sense than Bronzong. Surely, in universe, you should be able to immediately tell if that bell is floating (Levitate) or not (Heatproof).
Maybe pull a Water Bubble and give it three abilities in one: Soundproof + Reverberation + Levitate. It wouldn't be OP, and folks would still opt for Garchomp.
...that makes no sense
like what, you hit it with roar and you get half phazed out?
people have been messing with the flygon line like this for ages, come up with something original
@thejuiceking2219 1. It's a UA-cam comment thread. It's not that serious.
2. Then remove the effect from status moves.
While I won't deny that it's REALLY cool that Mega Evolution have Pokemon buffs they REALLY needed, and some Megas completely changes a Pokemon's playstyle like Pidgeot and Diancie stated in the video. And personally I like how they designed Mega Garchomp, it's like they knew Garchomp is already very powerful so they cut Garchomp's speed by 10 and then boost its offenses and bulk for its Mega.... But then they ditched that entirely going into ORAS as they create Mega Metagross and Salamence.
But personally, a problem I have with Megas is that it comes with an opportunity cost competitively, basically they cannibalize each other. A Pokemon can have a solid Mega, but there would be very little reason to run it instead of one of the other Megas that are significantly stronger or more useful. And every Mega is not treated equally like Audino and Ampharos.
Personally, I think it's probably better for a Pokemon to get a PERMANENT buff in the form of new Evolutions or Regional forms because they can persist on indefinitely, unlike Mega Evolution which can come and go without much warning. As we see with Pokemon like Gliscor, Weavile, Kingambit, Annihilape, Archaludon, etc. and alternate forms like Alolan Ninetales, Alolan Marowak, Garmanitan, Obstagoon, Hisuian Samurott, Hisuian Zoroark, Sneasler etc
All of those you mentioned are evolutions btw. You mention regionals as improvements but they don't do anything to improve the original. For example, H-Samurott doesn't make OG Samurott any better
@edgargaebolg9307 Oops, forgot to add examples of Regional forms. And yes while it doesn't improve upon the original Pokemon, it however makes older Pokemon more relevant with a new coat of paint by adding new potential typings, movesets and even a new playstyle entirely. Like base Zoroark's Illusion ability is nice, but it's not able to take advantage of it very well because of its pure Dark typing not really having good resistances or immunities to take advantage of. Hisuian Zoroark however comes with a Normal Ghost typing which grants it 3 immunities to Normal, Fighting and Ghost allowing it to either safely switch into Close Combats, Shadow Balls, block Rapid Spin etc. and it does a MUCH better job at forcing mindgames with your opponent as it has 3 immunities.
And even then, the Pokemon still share the same name and Pokedex number. It's a different form of the same species. Not like Tentacool and Toedscool which are entirely different species in-universe. (Despite ironically sharing the exact same base stats)
Here's a comment of Vibrava. Vibrava's evolution, Flygon, is probably one of the most popular choices people have when speculating new mega evolutions, they really want the Mega Flygon (and maybe the Bug/Dragon type combo too)
It was soooooo good 😢 I'm glad its coming back, but i honestly wish it'd never left. Just more stones being added each gen.
(Terra is quite cool too, so I wouldn't get rid of that, but Dynamax is very meh, and I wouldn't be butt-hurt if Z-Moves had never been made.)
The best part of this video was you two riffing off of each other the entire time. Came for the Mega Evolutions, stayed for the banter. Vibrava.
When Trapinch evolved into Vibrava the first time I played Ruby, I was terribly confused.
Things I took away: Elias has green hair.
Jk.
While Megas are my favorite gimmick in terms of lore and thematics, I can’t speak too highly of them gameplay wise. Poor campaign balance aside, a ton of Megas ended up being popularity picks and/or ones that didn’t need the buff, resulting in the opportunity cost factor of the mechanic to leave the comparatively weaker or less popular Megas that had more to gain in the dust, because which would you rather bring to a serious battle: Mega Salamance or Mega Camerupt. It also ended up being nothing more than a bandaid fix in the long run, suffice to say when your potential viability is tied to a gimmick that isn’t directly built into your design, then you’re just gonna go back to being terrible once the gimmick is gone; going a step further, because Megas are for fully evolved Pokémon only, mons like Mawile & Sableye can never hope for a permanent buff in the form of a cross gen evolution (this is why I will never wish a Mega upon a single or two stage Pokémon, like Ledian).
To be fair, I doubt anyone was going to use mega camerupt even if the pseudo legend megas didn’t exist
@ honestly, I just chose two semi-random examples, but I think that further proves my point lmao
you ever kick ball through brick wall?
you ever kick brick through a ball wall?
@robertlupa8273 You ever wall baller a brick kicker?
Vibrava and flygon (and any potential mega flygon) should get an ability like pixilate, but make it bug instead. Unfortunately still not a bug-dragon type, but its getting there
I feel really bad about how highschool me felt about Megas, I was a huge hater when they came out and only changed my mind when they added more in ORAS. I almost feel like had I tried to like them in XY maybe they'd've kept making em into Gen VII
I saw an interesting buff to it in a fangame where they buffed the accuracy of the move to 90 and basically made it a normal type version of pollen puff. Said fangame is pokemon flux which has a heavy emphasis on double battles, so I could see this move being used more often with these buffs
I think Mothim should have a Mega for absolutely no reason.
Vibrava Doesn't have a niche in gen 3 ou while trapinch and flygon do
For each form of burmy it evolves into wormadam of corresponding form also only if it’s female while male Burmy evolves into Morthim
Mega Evolution wasn't utilized the best by the devs. Several Pokemon that got it didn't need it, like Salamence, Gengar or Tyranitar. Some of the ones that _did_ need a boost weren't gifted with enough power or have been given the wrong kind of boost, examples being Blastoise or Banette. A few defensive ones like Audino or Steelix had too much of an opportunity cost to be worth using in PvP.
What I'm trying to say is: Mega Evolution had its flaws in how it was executed and I think it's worth pointing out, if only to avoid sounding like an obsessive fanboy who sees nothing wrong with his favourite. It's still a really cool mechanic that helped several Pokemon immensely. There's a reason why it's so beloved _(besides nostalgia and "being the first", of course)._
@robertlupa8273 oh wow, the rare Pokémon fan that can discuss megas flaws and like it without acting like it killed they family, glad to hear it! one thing I would add is the amount of megas for Pokémon that should've gotten actual evolutions instead, the most common examples being Sableye and Mawile, that being said I also had X as my first game and loved using Zard X and Mawile and Megas did pave the way for more generational gimmicks to be made so the good def outweighs the bad
Mega Garchomp isn't as bad as people say it is
They dislike the fact that mega garchomp loses its coveted 102 speed but I like how its gameplay changes from a speedy attacker to more of a wallbreaker.
Yeah um, its there but if you are gonna speed drop to below 100 means you have to actually live an ice move. Garchomp was fast enough to bypass that weakness by just going first, mega garchomp doesnt have that luxury
Aegisdex you rip through anything else so
@@Aegisdex That's a good point. Suddenly Ice types with 95 (Jynx and Kyurem forms) and 100 speed can outspeed mega garchomp. Is there any way to mitigate that weakness with your other 5 team mates in singles or allies in doubles?
@ question is why, why build around a massive weakness when you can have a better mega do a better job
The ME in MEPlaysGames stands for Mega Evolution.
Oooh, a new vid going over my fav mechanic, Christmas did come early
the word vibrate should be replaced with vibrava :)
Swift Swim in Japanese (according to Bulbapedia) is still Smooth Swim, maybe it implies they just slide around in the rain and not really swim?
This was a nice treat of a video for my birthday, I can't wait to see what new megas come out with ZA. Also I like Vibrava more than Flygon SUE ME
I found a shiny Trapinch very early into the second S/V dlc. I think Vibrava has the best shiny in that line.
The fact flygon still has no mega is wild
I hope they give vibrava/flygon a mega that is the Bug Dragon type that everyone wants for it.
For some reason vibrava mass outbreaks are _really_ common in the Savannah Biome, like, a one in three chance I see one every day.
Does anyone else have it, or is it just me?
Are ya Skyrimming my man? Just wanna know if... you get to the cloud district very often?
7:59 mighty cleave : 🗿
Wonder when I'll see your arch rivals, MEDon'tPlaysGames.
Vibrava actually has less Attack than its pre-evolved form.
VGC players in shambles rn. Megas were such a mid mechanic in VGC being so centralizing, overpowered, and generally being stupid.
It’s like a trash single restricted format. But they’re cool so ig it maybe gets a pass.
my Vibrava comment is: i was brutally headbutt by a Vibrava while taking a shower
You say "vih-brah-vah"
I say "vi-brave-ah"
We are not the same
vibrava was the first shiny I ever got back in gen 3 (but I didn't know about shinies lol) so i was super confused as to why its wings were orange 🧡
God I hope legends ZAza gifts us with mega shedinja that removes its bug typing ☠️
blud rly didnt know what galar was called
A monday upload? This migbt be a different timeline i woke up in
Vibrava is also fired
a comment about vibrava: i stole its name for a writing project of mine.
It should be a bug type
6:16 spore?
vibrava is cool
Mega evolution is terrible because it’s a band-aid to a problem not a solution
If they really wanted to buff mawile they would’ve given her a evolution not a mega
Imo, EVERY SINGLE MEGA is pointless and could’ve been a buff, an evo, or nothing (in the case of mons like garchomp)
True, but with how Gamefreak is seemingly allergic to giving meaningful buffs to Pokémon like the early route bugs and other weaker Pokémon that got Megas.
I’d have love to see the weaker Pokémon who got Megas keep some of the buffs their Megas gave them after they were removed. Like for example, their Megas just becoming regular Evolutions or getting toned down versions of their stats In the case of Pokémon like beedrill.
I generally most people do agree with the sentiment of Pokémon like Grachomp not needing Megas. Specially when they’re pointless like Garchomps.
Regardless, they are cool and people love them.
play Pokemon Elite Redux before talking about megas ma boy
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Nah, call it unpopular opinion or not but megaevolution is easly one of the worst mechanics ever introduced.
Its very limited, giving advantages to only a very restricted portion of pokemon and frankly, it does it in the most lazy way poossible.
If i remember correctly it only gives the pokemon +100 inbase stats and a new ability (most of the times useless).
its also the most braindead gimmick, you almost NEVER chose to not evolve the pokemon, giving it 0 strategical value.
damn you even have to waste your item slot to give your pokemon the stone, which makes it even less creative and strategical.
if they really wanted to buff some pokemons they cound have just give them straight up new evolutions, looking at sebleye, mewhaile, banette ecc...
While I do agree with most of your points, Tbf, it was the first generational gimmick and the designs of the Pokémon chosen get better more often than worse, you say is limited now also but fail to mention Legends: Z-A, seeing as how Legends: Arceus was received, they could change the usual formula and add a good chunk more megas, for strategical use it actually does have value, mega sabeleye was a weak defensive stall Pokémon in its base form and giving it magic bounce is waay better than at least stall in that sense, (also he's really cute when he hides behind his gem) Gyarados too, who is argue got better with it's mega, since it's a physical flying type that isn't a bird, it didn't get good STAB, but upon mega evolving, it gets the dark type, which is a notable type for it's physical STAB and lets not forget that the Pokémon at LEAST have a slightly better buff than Z-moves, which also take up an item slot and you can only use them once per battle, difference is they have a high BP and bypass accuracy checks... Now don't get me wrong, I don't hate them or anything, and Sure it was nice to score a KO in a pinch with a flashy animation but that only lasts a few seconds, and while we're at it, there's also the casual side of Pokémon's insanely large fanbase, some megas actually have a decent reason for existing, like making canons for "what-ifs", you know, things poketubers have in at least 10 of their videos, though that said, I do wish sabeleye and mawile hadn't gotten the treatment in hindsight, but it's definitely good enough if it's able to stay in more than one generation of games made, take it as you will, but that's my two cents
Nah the other newer gimmick mechanic is way more boring and and less interesting. Z moves is literally just a much stronger move, dynamax is literally just way stronger mega evolution on crack where only a few pokemon had gigantomax that changed the appearence. The gimmick of generation 9 is just lame they look like a damn tree.
@@DemiCapeyeah the z moves are trash and giga max lazy, but at least every pokemon can use it.
They are not relegated to 30 pokemon out of 1000+.
Eveb tough I'm not the biggest fan either at least those 2 gimmicks cannot be thrown instantly and require a minimal thinking.
Tera looks desgusting but it's by far the most strategic one and with the highest skill gap of the bunch.
@d4nmark22 you are not wrong, as i said megas are not a worthless mechanic and they have some very few strateegic aspects.
the issue i have with a lot of them is with exaclty one of the pokemon you mentioned:
take as an example sebleye, why did gamefreak just give it a straight up new evolution? i get that you cound want to switch between prankster and magic bounce but it so niche it doesnt justify relegating the stage just for 2 out of the entire pool of the mainline games. coudnt mawhile as an example just get a new evolution instead of a mega? they cound have gave them an even biggest bump in statistic along with its signature ability. even with gyarados the point is the same, why coudnt they just give it a new evolution? the bump in statistic coud have been achieved regardless and the switcharoo between the types is possible thanks to the tera mechanic and it doesnt even take the item slot.
and finally, i didnt talk about ZA because we litterally dont know anything about the games.
yes they can come out with 30+ new mega or with 5.
you litterally have no way to tell if the megas werent just shoved in the games as a cash grab like they did in x&y.
and yes it was litterally confirmed by the tera leak that megas were tought as the ultimate fanservice mechanic made to grab the attention of the older player after the black/white fiasco.