This video compares DirectX 12 vs. Vulkan using the Red Dead Redemption 2 internal benchmark tool. All benchmarks are done in 2160p resolution with minimum, medium and maximum graphics. 00:00 Minimum Benchmark Run 03:47 Minimum Graphics Summary 03:57 Medium Benchmark Run 07:42 Medium Benchmark Summary 07:52 Maximum Benchmark Run 11:37 Maximum Summary Driver: GeForce Game Ready Driver 441.12 | Patch Date: Nov 06 2019
I know it's only Week 1 for release on PC, but the client needs further optimisation. When Rockstar stated that a GTX 1060 was recommended, it was assumed that one could achieve a steady 60fps at 1080p without potatofying the look of the game.
lol what you could never achieve 1080p 60fps in previous generations of games with any of the 60 cards. Not with 660, not with 760 and so on. Only 70 80+ cards. Get down from the clouds.
@@akhilbhatt4746 no clue about ac origins, its not a demanding game i suppose. Try AC Unity, that would break your 1060, and forget about ultra on red dead for sure ;D
its the DRM 100%.. they use a new version of denuvo VM protect.... That shit needs power too. So it steals system resources to make sure you dont copy the game. lel.
@@НикитаРерих But they use a anti temper VM system like the denuvo one. Also denuvo has been bought by Irdeto. Just other names than... The anti temper system is running in a hidden VM.
@Salt Maker Nope. It crashes for me too, not on Vulcan. If it's a stability problem then Vulcan would crash too, it proves it's a API optimization problem.
@Salt Maker it could be a driver issue, but it's not system stability If the majority of people are experiencing these problems because they are. Go watch gamers nexus's video as he explain exactly how this game is unoptimized
@Salt Maker DF did a video debunking it? Then why has Rockstar reccently put out a patch that fixes 4 and 6 core cpu stuttering? Your saying Rockstar patched a problem that never actually existed? Also yes I have seen the Digital Foundry video.
Yeah and that's not normal. Odd performance. Nvidia partnered with R* (paid them) to inject bloat and ignore optimizations to sell more 2080tis. Their marketing materials officially state performance so they very much knew how poorly this was going to run and seems very intentional.
@@ionseven Meh it just seems that the main reason you can't get high fps is that volumetric effects can not be turned off, but merely set to low. Most games up to today have the option to turn of volumetric effects or do not feature them as extensive as this game. This game uses volumetrics like crazy i can tell you. And as is, those are very demanding and that won't change.
Same. I switched it to dx12 and the game literally refused to ever open again. If this happens to you, delete the red dead 2 game folder from "my documents" and re run the game.
@@Princess_of_hell_1947 sure it does look terrible on low settings, image is still sharper, that is literally the point of a higher resolution. He's right though, 4K or even 1080p with low settings, stupid.
looks like DX12 might be better for people that are able to crack the setting up higher. This test only shows 4k res though right? might be different results for 1440 and 1080 resolutions
@@Perjoss For clarity's sake, my point is that these results are less accurate than the results of gamers nexus: ua-cam.com/video/yD3xd1qGcfo/v-deo.html
Odd performance. Nvidia partnered with R* (paid them) to inject bloat and ignore optimizations to sell more 2080tis. Their marketing materials officially state performance so they very much knew how poorly this was going to run and seems very intentional.
So true. Not to mention that the team worked for 7 years on it almost waaaay before even a plan for RTX was born. I smell the same as you, just throw in Nvidia and we sell better. They would be better of if the game was optimized and ran better, would sell a trillion copies more than now in 3 days
@@ewelin21 Soo true they are tying to kill pascal cards with such hideous performance a GTX 1080 should have no problems running this at 1080p!! Not even mentioning 1440p or 4k. Disgracefull
They partnered with NVIDIA? I thought they partnered with AMD with the pc release of RDR2.. there was even an email for AMD subscribers that stated the game is optimized for AMD.
Selwyn van der Sluys guess what means “optimized for amd”? Just a new Nvidia hoax to get the people to rtx, no wonder why it runs better on Vulkan somehow. They just downgraded performance of old cards with new drivers to sell new cards. And rdr helps with it for a lot of $ I guess
This game is so fucking good on even base consoles that it blows me away what its doing on PC.. Though i cannot run it on ultra 4k and get anywhere near 60fps even with an 8700k and 2080ti. $k 40fps ultra still looks vastly better than runs just a bit smoother. Its brilliant
If this card cant push 4K max settings, then this is just another Crysis on our hands haha. We won't be able to play it on 4K for a long time then. 2080 TI costs way over 1000$ here, so i doubt any 300-500$ card will conquer this game anytime soon.
@@emulation2369 It's 4K on Xbox One X... So what's your point!? See if the game looks the same runs the same and renders at the same resolution. How is PC an improvement? PC still has 10FPS on Xbox One X, but that ain't no 60FPS.
I have to say, I'm not sure if the game is bad optimized or not. It has so much detail in graphics that no other game had before, that's why it has so much settings. I play the game with these settings, textures ultra, taa on, taa sharpening 100%, gras about 50% And it looks like any other Game pretty much, you could turn water stuff higher idk. I think the Game is just demanding, but optimisation has to be done still that's true, I think it won't do magic tho.
Candyland, your low setings clip is bugged, happen to me when i adjust the graphic options, the textures dont charge and stay with a crappy resolution until you reset the game :C
You forgot when it released a year later on pc it sucked in the beginning also. Its just that now after a couple of years it's way better. Same will happen here, agree it sucks but yeah
@@i_read_bad_reviews The test he shows does point out the feel by the frametime graph. I guess the stutter under vulkan is hardware dependant. Probably something to do with what kind of CPU you use. On my system DX12 is much smoother, on the system in the vid Vulkan is smoother, simple as that.
@@i_read_bad_reviews 4790k 1080 Ti. Old CPU i know, will change next year. i am on a mix of high and ultra settings and i am getting 40-60 fps at 1440p (DX12)...GSYNCED, so no stuttery feel.
@@sarihaddu Its the time it takes for the GPU to render 1 frame. Its proportionate to FPS, so more FPS equals less frame-time and vice versa. 60 FPS means 1sec/60 = 16ms (miliseconds). 30FPS would be 33ms.
Basicly if u owned a core i5 Vulkan: many microstutters (can be annoying but less likely to disconnect in online Dx12: 5 seconds long stutter but rare (if your screen froze more than 5 seconds you are likely to get disconected)
I can't even get the game to load either or but can load at regular 1440p any tips? I'd like to see what it would look like on my pc. I'm running a 2600x(o.c. 4.2ghz)5700xt (o.c. to 2067mhz)16gb 3200mghz ddr4 on a 512mb SSD. I can get 65 to 90fps but once I get to load vulkan or d12 it won't even load. Any tips would be nice. Thanks!
That means this could be a good game to play on Linux thanks to Steam and its Proton. If is not playable in the moment when the game be released, with the time it'll be thanks to Vulkan.
What i noticed while playing is that on vulkan ram usage is 11 gb while on directx12 is 8.5 gb, cpu usage is about 30 percent less on vulkan than directX and gpu is 100% on both engines.
might have to go the games config file and set it back to Vulkan. I have a 1080ti and have no issues with the game crashing/not starting only a few issues with the rock star servers not letting me connect
Muito bom. O bom que o vulkan tem suporte para multiplataforma então server para qualquer console e sistemas computadores que inclui Linux. Eu espero ter mais jogos nativos para Linux de Categoria AAA como os que ja temos.
Vulkan gives me more FPS but gives me constant freezes while DX12 gives me no freezes but lower fps. the stuttering unfortunately stays no matter what i do.
What kind of benchmark ist that? The gameplay benchmark scene is random... DX12 had more people and things going on in general. When it evened out the fps was about the same.
You commented as if the 2080 Ti is not capable of doing that - - - it can but it depends on the title. RDR2 is a great looking and demanding title, so expect even the highest-end to struggle.
Answer is simple- dont run in DX12 then... Honestly it's now the 7th game (I just bought this because of new year sale), and DX12 is really utterly garbage. Not really much more fps, but even the minimum fps in half of the games I tested were even lower. In addtion I can't even run another game or demanding app in background which is not issue on DX11/Vulcan, and the most games are having crashes or other errors like graphical issues. Tested on: Metro Exodus, Borderlands 3, Redisend Evil Biohazard/2 remastered, Division 1+2, and Red Dead Redemption 2...
DirectX 12 - Windows 10 only. Vulkan - From Windows 7 up newer, from Android 7 and newer, Linux. Also it's open sourced and give you better control of what your GPU does.
different architecture where DX12 should work better on both, even AMD and Nvidia. Sadly exactly the opposite is the case. DX12 is even less good than DX11, uznless you are having a weaker CPU maybe...
Dx12 for some reason looks worse than vulkan however when vulkan was on by default would freeze the game up to 30 seconds (i54690k would bottleneck to 100%). Switching to dx12 everything ran as smooth as.
I got a program bes which limits cpu power down by 5 %(or whatever %) for specific program and it fixed the freezing for 30 sec for me. I'm running i5 6600k(not over clocked atm) and with 1080ti 1440x3440
Too bad I can't test both API's. Only Vulkan works here. Selecting DX12 makes the game crash when I restart the game. (2080ti stock with 7700K @ 4.8ghz)
@@qaching its called WQHD the resolution is 2560x1440 so bascially almost 2x sharper than 1080p. its a great Compromise if you want a crisp picture with good performance. 4k is still way too demanding for the most gamers.
@@SonGoku544 nope. 1080p is still the most used resolution. 1440p is the niche resolution. Budget gamers like me use 1080p, higher end ones skip straight to 4k.
i have this game, i guess with recent patches dx12 isn't as bad as it use to be? Anyways for me... between the two, DX12 looks better from my experience. Better lines, and more vibrant colors.
everyone bitching needs to speak for them selves, i built my pc myself every single part is hand picked by me and installed by me, including the Storage and operating system, so it has ZERO bloatware or built in bullshit no one needs, just cc cleaner for cleaning and avg to actively monitor files going in or out. I have a quad core cpu, a fast quad core maybe the fastest quad core ever built (i3-8350k@4.7Ghz, i can push it to 4.8 but it needs 1.36-.37 volts on the cpu where at 4.6 it only needs 1.30 so the curve goes up fast on the heat/performance ratio on my chip atleast, could prob get it to 4.9-5.0 ghz if i messed with my bios more but i simply did the increase clock speed until unstable than raise voltage until it gets too hot trick to see how i could push it, getting a 8700k or 9700k if i can use my z370 board still)now that 10th gen i3s have hyper threading i heard,,, but 4 cores,,,,and a RTX 2060,,,not super 2060 just 2060, with 16gb ddr4-3000,,,,,,, and im getting 50-70 fps with everything maxed out except MSAA and anything else that utilizes super sampling, i play on 1080p with dx12, if i move to vulcan and use a mix of ultra and high i can easily get 60 fps in town. and my pc usage is perfect, 100 percent on the cpu AND gpu,,,, so speak for your self, some of us are out here having the fucking time of our lives (video games wise atleast lol) playing rdr2 damn near perfectly, and its clearly not the games fault. you cant expect it to run on anything but a high end pc ,,, i mean look at its performance on console lol
@@MxfrneUXX7unip95MLb no, just only the fps, u fucking ugly fat virgin pc boy. Get a girlfriend and stop protecting ur stupid pc bullshit. By the way i have a ps4.
For me dx 12 give me 20fps more and smooth gameplay, vulkan down 20 fps and stuttering somehow. My spec is i9-9900x, 32gb quad ddram and rtx 2080. Dx12 average fpr 7x to 8x, vulkan average 4x to 5x with 3840:1080 32:9 resolution with custom ultra and high setting.
@@Roberto190688 Not at all. PS4 version is blurrier, lower resolution textures, absence of ambient occlusion, lower draw distance, less vegetation density. Truth hurts.
Does anyone else have a problem when they run the game with Vulcan, where the frames drop from 50-70 fps down to 40-ish? I am playing on 1440p on max settings, and this happens when i approach campfires and other areas where physics particles are used a lot.
@@HiJack3r I can't use Dx12 I don't know why but it crash after 15 min. With the Vulkan i can normally play the game, but ive little fps drop near the water and camping...i want to find a fix cause dx12 seems more better in quality and smoothness
@@teksupreme5063 Yep, you're right, same here. It crashes after half an hour or so, and not only that, but at max settings it still drops fps a lot. Damn, I guess we have to wait for Rockstar to fix the game we already paid for.
@@HiJack3r If you watch the twitter of Rockstar Games they said they are working with Nvidia to fix problema caused by the combination of specific hardware gpu+cpu and also for fix stutter and crash. Nvidia also release a new driver right now.
I am on GTX 1060, and nothing above low settings (with lower than native resolution) gives me smooth experience, especially near Saint Denis, Camps, Camp-Fires, Lanterns etc
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This video compares DirectX 12 vs. Vulkan using the Red Dead Redemption 2 internal benchmark tool. All benchmarks are done in 2160p resolution with minimum, medium and maximum graphics.
00:00 Minimum Benchmark Run
03:47 Minimum Graphics Summary
03:57 Medium Benchmark Run
07:42 Medium Benchmark Summary
07:52 Maximum Benchmark Run
11:37 Maximum Summary
Driver: GeForce Game Ready Driver 441.12 | Patch Date: Nov 06 2019
interesting results but what about CPU usage is it different or same ?
Man those minimum settings textures look worse than the switcher 3
the only way to play 4k in 2019 lol, what a waste
@@nazaG_89 i still prefer 1080p gaming
@@ITSGOOSLIME nah 1440p is the perfect middle ground and makes it really hard to go back to 1080p
@@Rotinaj37 i could only imagine
@@nazaG_89 Lol, textures doesn't affect on fps if you have enough vram
I know it's only Week 1 for release on PC, but the client needs further optimisation. When Rockstar stated that a GTX 1060 was recommended, it was assumed that one could achieve a steady 60fps at 1080p without potatofying the look of the game.
I have a gtx 1070 8gb and it works great
The specified specs devs tend to put online are based on 30 FPS, 1080p gaming, I believe.
lol what you could never achieve 1080p 60fps in previous generations of games with any of the 60 cards. Not with 660, not with 760 and so on. Only 70 80+ cards. Get down from the clouds.
@@bewsket
What are you saying? I got 60fps@ 1080p ultra in AC origins with the GTX 1060
@@akhilbhatt4746 no clue about ac origins, its not a demanding game i suppose. Try AC Unity, that would break your 1060, and forget about ultra on red dead for sure ;D
Rockstar needs to release some patches for this low optimization...
lol they blame the PC hardware "outdated" drivers for tis ahahahah
its the DRM 100%.. they use a new version of denuvo VM protect.... That shit needs power too. So it steals system resources to make sure you dont copy the game. lel.
@@000jimbojones000 the don't use denuvo drm at all
@@НикитаРерих it's a DRM called arxan I think
@@НикитаРерих But they use a anti temper VM system like the denuvo one. Also denuvo has been bought by Irdeto. Just other names than... The anti temper system is running in a hidden VM.
Benchmark is very inaccurate because dx12 didnt crash atleast 7 times
Doesn't crash for me.
@Salt Maker Nope. It crashes for me too, not on Vulcan. If it's a stability problem then Vulcan would crash too, it proves it's a API optimization problem.
@Salt Maker I'm also running the game at 4K, so yes that can cause optimization problems.
@Salt Maker it could be a driver issue, but it's not system stability If the majority of people are experiencing these problems because they are. Go watch gamers nexus's video as he explain exactly how this game is unoptimized
@Salt Maker DF did a video debunking it? Then why has Rockstar reccently put out a patch that fixes 4 and 6 core cpu stuttering? Your saying Rockstar patched a problem that never actually existed? Also yes I have seen the Digital Foundry video.
Most Times Vulkan Has more fps for me , but dx12 Has way better frametimes. Here it seems to be same.
Yeah and that's not normal. Odd performance. Nvidia partnered with R* (paid them) to inject bloat and ignore optimizations to sell more 2080tis. Their marketing materials officially state performance so they very much knew how poorly this was going to run and seems very intentional.
So true
dx12 it is then
Gamers nexus has measured it in the most accurate way, Vulkan is significantly better.
@@ionseven Meh it just seems that the main reason you can't get high fps is that volumetric effects can not be turned off, but merely set to low.
Most games up to today have the option to turn of volumetric effects or do not feature them as extensive as this game.
This game uses volumetrics like crazy i can tell you.
And as is, those are very demanding and that won't change.
It runs for me when I'm running the game with Vulkan but crashes instantly on start when DirectX12 is selected
resolveu? tenho o mesmo
Mine has jittery mouse movements with vulkan but no crashes. Dx12 runs great but crashes 1hr into the game.
Same. I switched it to dx12 and the game literally refused to ever open again. If this happens to you, delete the red dead 2 game folder from "my documents" and re run the game.
I am so disappointed in Rockstar and TakeTwo right now
How did you change back to Vulkan without getting back in the game? I can’t get back in to change it
I don't get what's the point of playing a game in 4k with low/lowest graphics...
Sharper image?
@@postscriptum8142 What? The game will look horrible even at such a high resolution.
@@Princess_of_hell_1947 sure it does look terrible on low settings, image is still sharper, that is literally the point of a higher resolution. He's right though, 4K or even 1080p with low settings, stupid.
@@Anarkitten It says RTX 2080 Ti in the title.
@@Anarkitten he should also turn the resolution to minimum then
looks like DX12 might be better for people that are able to crack the setting up higher. This test only shows 4k res though right? might be different results for 1440 and 1080 resolutions
Gamers nexus has measured it in the most accurate way, Vulkan is significantly better.
Vulkan is a stuttering mess. Ya the counter shows more FPS by like 5 on my testing, but dx12 is butter smooth in comparison.
Nahum vulkan is a stuttering mess
@@nahum7995
did you see the results for the final test? 11:37
@@Perjoss For clarity's sake, my point is that these results are less accurate than the results of gamers nexus: ua-cam.com/video/yD3xd1qGcfo/v-deo.html
So much for dat 4K60 experience everyone was looking forward to. :D
Terrible port so far. Desperately needs fixes.
it's just amazing how well optimized this game is...
yeah it's a fucking miracle that it runs on pc.
FULLCLIP Speak for yourself, shit won’t even start.
Odd performance. Nvidia partnered with R* (paid them) to inject bloat and ignore optimizations to sell more 2080tis. Their marketing materials officially state performance so they very much knew how poorly this was going to run and seems very intentional.
of course, the game features future proof graphics and great optimization.
NEXT LEVEL GPU's WILL RUN 4k60 on ultra settings, not now though.
So true. Not to mention that the team worked for 7 years on it almost waaaay before even a plan for RTX was born. I smell the same as you, just throw in Nvidia and we sell better. They would be better of if the game was optimized and ran better, would sell a trillion copies more than now in 3 days
@@ewelin21
Soo true they are tying to kill pascal cards with such hideous performance a GTX 1080 should have no problems running this at 1080p!! Not even mentioning 1440p or 4k. Disgracefull
They partnered with NVIDIA? I thought they partnered with AMD with the pc release of RDR2.. there was even an email for AMD subscribers that stated the game is optimized for AMD.
Selwyn van der Sluys guess what means “optimized for amd”? Just a new Nvidia hoax to get the people to rtx, no wonder why it runs better on Vulkan somehow. They just downgraded performance of old cards with new drivers to sell new cards. And rdr helps with it for a lot of $ I guess
Currently I'm getting Zero FPS on my rig as the damn game will not launch....
Update your bios, worked for me and now running smoothly with 75 fps on high/ultra w vulkan and vega 56
Sebastien Wiard in what resolution?
@@m.mugadam7692 720p
Dwandalf WHEEZE
@@m.mugadam7692 1080p
When video RDR 2 min-medium-high-ultra graphics?)
This game is so fucking good on even base consoles that it blows me away what its doing on PC.. Though i cannot run it on ultra 4k and get anywhere near 60fps even with an 8700k and 2080ti. $k 40fps ultra still looks vastly better than runs just a bit smoother. Its brilliant
This soundtrack gets me everytime
What is, the name of this song ?¿
@@83Forestiero Music from the "Red Dead Redemption 2" Video Game Trailer, by L'Orchestra Cinematique
@@cyrilchannie5120
Beautiful !¡
Nice, nice, nice...
Thanks so much for everything ; ) !¡!¡
@@83Forestiero you're welcome bud🙂
If this card cant push 4K max settings, then this is just another Crysis on our hands haha. We won't be able to play it on 4K for a long time then. 2080 TI costs way over 1000$ here, so i doubt any 300-500$ card will conquer this game anytime soon.
Can u make the video about the different of each graphic setting on pc
Gamers Nexus just released a video like that.
I found Vulkan to be smoother than DX12 on my rtx2060!
30FPS on PC?
it's 4k pal
Emulation I have only 55 in 1440p...
@@emulation2369
It's 4K on Xbox One X... So what's your point!?
See if the game looks the same runs the same and renders at the same resolution. How is PC an improvement?
PC still has 10FPS on Xbox One X, but that ain't no 60FPS.
@@nlluke5207
I gotta try this out is the PC benchmark a free download or only part of the full game?
@@emulation2369 well, xbox one x say hello. Plus, 2080Ti alone cost more than one x
What's the song called for rdr2 in the video? From 0:00 to 2:26?
I wanna know too.......
It's Rdr 2 Trailer Theme Extended.
@@burak-safak Thanks👍
-Wait! THIS GAME WORKS!!??
I have to say, I'm not sure if the game is bad optimized or not.
It has so much detail in graphics that no other game had before, that's why it has so much settings.
I play the game with these settings, textures ultra, taa on, taa sharpening 100%, gras about 50%
And it looks like any other Game pretty much, you could turn water stuff higher idk.
I think the Game is just demanding, but optimisation has to be done still that's true, I think it won't do magic tho.
Can I use the Vulkan API running RDR2 if my GPU its a Nvidia GTX 1080 ?
But can it run RDR2?
*but can RDR2 run?
@@psramrod3 nah it cant ill pass
Candyland, your low setings clip is bugged, happen to me when i adjust the graphic options, the textures dont charge and stay with a crappy resolution until you reset the game :C
Yes. Most games require a reboot when textures or lighting settings are changed.
Hi, do you see any graphics quality changes between vulkan and dx12 ?
How did rockstar go from gta V's awesome optimization to this........ Developers are no longer taking time to optimize stuff...
You forgot when it released a year later on pc it sucked in the beginning also. Its just that now after a couple of years it's way better. Same will happen here, agree it sucks but yeah
@@karel3112 Lolwut? Gta v was literally one of the most optimised game when it came out.
Vulkun will give you a couple of more frames, but it is unstable with lag spikes!
Nope, DX12 has more spikes: ua-cam.com/video/9omGfxRlQsg/v-deo.html
Nahum these test don’t show actual feel. Try both yourself and see/feel the difference.
@@i_read_bad_reviews The test he shows does point out the feel by the frametime graph.
I guess the stutter under vulkan is hardware dependant.
Probably something to do with what kind of CPU you use.
On my system DX12 is much smoother, on the system in the vid Vulkan is smoother, simple as that.
Iceflower what card you running? I’m using 2070 with i7 9700 and I’ve found the perfect combo that is butter smooth and looks beautiful.
@@i_read_bad_reviews 4790k 1080 Ti.
Old CPU i know, will change next year.
i am on a mix of high and ultra settings and i am getting 40-60 fps at 1440p (DX12)...GSYNCED, so no stuttery feel.
Can't confirm. On my rig, I loose ten percent on FPS and get 18ms with DX12. Vulkan has 15ms.
Can you please tell me what is 18ms and 15ms? Is it related to smoothness?
@@sarihaddu Its the time it takes for the GPU to render 1 frame. Its proportionate to FPS, so more FPS equals less frame-time and vice versa. 60 FPS means 1sec/60 = 16ms (miliseconds). 30FPS would be 33ms.
please make a console vs pc comaparison..then make low vs med vs high vs ultra
ua-cam.com/video/QqNdX2NIdVo/v-deo.html
Basicly if u owned a core i5
Vulkan: many microstutters (can be annoying but less likely to disconnect in online
Dx12: 5 seconds long stutter but rare (if your screen froze more than 5 seconds you are likely to get disconected)
I can't even get the game to load either or but can load at regular 1440p any tips? I'd like to see what it would look like on my pc. I'm running a 2600x(o.c. 4.2ghz)5700xt (o.c. to 2067mhz)16gb 3200mghz ddr4 on a 512mb SSD. I can get 65 to 90fps but once I get to load vulkan or d12 it won't even load. Any tips would be nice. Thanks!
Even though fps are higher with vulkan for my 2080ti there is occasional nasty stutter that isn't in dx12
I hope to run it under Vulkan on my 1050ti hahaha
At least Doom 2016 runs wonderfully on vulkan
If RDR2 runs as BFV runs, I'll be ok
Your card is in the class of 970. From what I've heard, you can't keep a steady 60 even on low with that card.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Mine is worse.Got the MX 150 (GT 1030 for laptop).And it's barely got 30fps sometimes below 20's on the lowest settings at 720p
@@I_Cunt_Spell 970 is actually more powerful but 1050ti is probably better for optimization.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Yeah' I can run bfv on medium dx12 at 60. Of course it drops but it's not constantly
Lol, i got 1070 TI and i cant even play BF V on max settings and 60 fps ;d Usually med and it goes between 40 and 70 (stays around 50)
1080p would be more interesting
That means this could be a good game to play on Linux thanks to Steam and its Proton. If is not playable in the moment when the game be released, with the time it'll be thanks to Vulkan.
What i noticed while playing is that on vulkan ram usage is 11 gb while on directx12 is 8.5 gb, cpu usage is about 30 percent less on vulkan than directX and gpu is 100% on both engines.
For that V-ram usage is slower.
What FPS counter is used in this video? Fraps crashes the game for me.
DX12 crashes anyway all the time. Win Win
im concerned about those 2 poor horses than my pc not running the game at max
my game does not open with directx 12, what should i do? i have a gtx 1080 with updated drivers
might have to go the games config file and set it back to Vulkan. I have a 1080ti and have no issues with the game crashing/not starting only a few issues with the rock star servers not letting me connect
Muito bom.
O bom que o vulkan tem suporte para multiplataforma então server para qualquer console e sistemas computadores que inclui Linux.
Eu espero ter mais jogos nativos para Linux de Categoria AAA como os que ja temos.
Better averages with Vulkan overall
Did any of you get more game crashes when using DirectX?
Should have called that video "Watch the best GPU RTX 2080 ti getting buttfucked and relegated to console Niveau (30 fps)"
Vulkan gives me more FPS but gives me constant freezes while DX12 gives me no freezes but lower fps. the stuttering unfortunately stays no matter what i do.
Those micro hitches are annoying af.
I got "bes" program to limit rdr2 cpu by 5 % and it fixed the stutters and freeze
Maybe try this: Add RDR2 to your videocard driver folder. Make sure you have disabled V-sink in your videocard settings outside of the game.
We want DLSS 2.0 in this game.
1 year old console game with unlocked fps and more clear textures didn’t get 60 fps on 1500$ gpu!
Consoles cant run this game in 4K ultra setings, and this version has a visual upgrade...
1500, dollar GPU lmao where??
What kind of benchmark ist that? The gameplay benchmark scene is random... DX12 had more people and things going on in general. When it evened out the fps was about the same.
Anyone else interested in that big fat advert taking up half the screen?? Oh yeah!!
2019 and we still can’t even hit 60fps at 4k?
It depends on the game.
We can't even get stable 60fps 1080p on ultra with a GTX 1080 Ti
Game is trash. People have waited so long only to have the fucking developers release a shit that runs worse than a ps4
@@Vandiekins Game is not trash lol. I get 50-60fps on a mix of mostly high, Ultra and a little bit of low
You commented as if the 2080 Ti is not capable of doing that - - - it can but it depends on the title. RDR2 is a great looking and demanding title, so expect even the highest-end to struggle.
How did you run it in dx12? It won't even launch when I switch.
Answer is simple- dont run in DX12 then...
Honestly it's now the 7th game (I just bought this because of new year sale), and DX12 is really utterly garbage.
Not really much more fps, but even the minimum fps in half of the games I tested were even lower.
In addtion I can't even run another game or demanding app in background which is not issue on DX11/Vulcan, and the most games are having crashes or other errors like graphical issues.
Tested on: Metro Exodus, Borderlands 3, Redisend Evil Biohazard/2 remastered, Division 1+2, and Red Dead Redemption 2...
lol the PC Master Race is still alpha testing this game
why blur worst graphics?
UPD oh, this is minimal settings -sorry my bad
Vulkan is better in my experience and im on chapter 4
Can you do a low vs medium v high test?
I have insane stutering with Vulkan
what is the difference between vulkan and directx 12?
DirectX 12 - Windows 10 only.
Vulkan - From Windows 7 up newer, from Android 7 and newer, Linux. Also it's open sourced and give you better control of what your GPU does.
different architecture where DX12 should work better on both, even AMD and Nvidia.
Sadly exactly the opposite is the case. DX12 is even less good than DX11, uznless you are having a weaker CPU maybe...
Believe Vulkan will work better the more cores the cpu have!
Dx12 for some reason looks worse than vulkan however when vulkan was on by default would freeze the game up to 30 seconds (i54690k would bottleneck to 100%). Switching to dx12 everything ran as smooth as.
I got a program bes which limits cpu power down by 5 %(or whatever %) for specific program and it fixed the freezing for 30 sec for me. I'm running i5 6600k(not over clocked atm) and with 1080ti 1440x3440
Too bad I can't test both API's. Only Vulkan works here. Selecting DX12 makes the game crash when I restart the game. (2080ti stock with 7700K @ 4.8ghz)
why always just 4k benchmarks? how about 1440p!?
They want to test the maximum settings, take things too there limits. Thats how you know how a game performs at its worst and thats important.
@@dangle-pee4420 no its not, because maybe only 0,2% of all gamers play at 4k resolution.. 1440p is the most popular at the moment
Ali_ FFM what is 1440p? Its HD or 4K right?
@@qaching its called WQHD the resolution is 2560x1440 so bascially almost 2x sharper than 1080p. its a great Compromise if you want a crisp picture with good performance. 4k is still way too demanding for the most gamers.
@@SonGoku544 nope. 1080p is still the most used resolution. 1440p is the niche resolution. Budget gamers like me use 1080p, higher end ones skip straight to 4k.
i have this game, i guess with recent patches dx12 isn't as bad as it use to be? Anyways for me... between the two, DX12 looks better from my experience. Better lines, and more vibrant colors.
everyone bitching needs to speak for them selves, i built my pc myself every single part is hand picked by me and installed by me, including the Storage and operating system, so it has ZERO bloatware or built in bullshit no one needs, just cc cleaner for cleaning and avg to actively monitor files going in or out. I have a quad core cpu, a fast quad core maybe the fastest quad core ever built (i3-8350k@4.7Ghz, i can push it to 4.8 but it needs 1.36-.37 volts on the cpu where at 4.6 it only needs 1.30 so the curve goes up fast on the heat/performance ratio on my chip atleast, could prob get it to 4.9-5.0 ghz if i messed with my bios more but i simply did the increase clock speed until unstable than raise voltage until it gets too hot trick to see how i could push it, getting a 8700k or 9700k if i can use my z370 board still)now that 10th gen i3s have hyper threading i heard,,, but 4 cores,,,,and a RTX 2060,,,not super 2060 just 2060, with 16gb ddr4-3000,,,,,,, and im getting 50-70 fps with everything maxed out except MSAA and anything else that utilizes super sampling, i play on 1080p with dx12, if i move to vulcan and use a mix of ultra and high i can easily get 60 fps in town. and my pc usage is perfect, 100 percent on the cpu AND gpu,,,, so speak for your self, some of us are out here having the fucking time of our lives (video games wise atleast lol) playing rdr2 damn near perfectly, and its clearly not the games fault. you cant expect it to run on anything but a high end pc ,,, i mean look at its performance on console lol
this game needs a DX12afr patch so it can support SLI
3:31 looks different, he don't have the hat
His hat was shot off. This part of the benchmark has some variables in it because the A.I don't behave exactly the same every time you run it.
I guess it's the usual case: DX12 is best for AMD cards, but not the best for Nvidia cards. Would be nice to see a test like this with RX 5700XT.
but vulcan it AMD techology
@@TR0Y72 It's not! It's open source now.
Holly cow Cryengine is the best beast!
This is why Microsoft afraid of vulkan api
Did you tried with last patch ?
He wrote that
@@RyadMax In fact RDR2 is still running very bad. I was hoping it wasn't installed.
I play on vulkan dx12 constantly crashes and use process lasso and limit CPU usage to 98 and everything is resolved no more crashing or freezes.
So you can use Dx12 by limiting your cpu?
So is the 100% cpu usage that make crash of game?
Explain better
bottom line : you need a double 2080 ti to play 4k60 OTHERWISE UR DONE
When xbox one x vs pc?
meaningless. The result is already known😂
Watch Digital Foundry. They're working on a full breakdown video.
@@MxfrneUXX7unip95MLb no, just only the fps, u fucking ugly fat virgin pc boy. Get a girlfriend and stop protecting ur stupid pc bullshit. By the way i have a ps4.
@@mardino2267 haha bait
@@mardino2267lmao PS4 what a joke
Xbox vs pc vs ps. Waiting for the video.
@TricycleRaider candyland has the quality.
Vulkan is life, fuck DX12.
They need to fix the low textures.
I dont see any differences 🤔
Core i5 2400 and gtx 750ti???? Will ot run rdr2
Yes but poorly.
Tell you something image sharpening is my 4k
All games should be made using vulkan api
this dont count sense the game is in demo mode still
Hello Candyman
You should test vulkan on AMD and DX on Nvidia....
Why they create another API (Vulkan) that runs worse than the current one (DX 12)?
Google what Vulkan is.
Vulkan doesn't run worse, dx12 is Microsoft only, Vulkan exist mainly for gaming outside microsoft, like Nintendo, Android and Google Stadia
@@rayopro Thanks
For me dx 12 give me 20fps more and smooth gameplay, vulkan down 20 fps and stuttering somehow. My spec is i9-9900x, 32gb quad ddram and rtx 2080. Dx12 average fpr 7x to 8x, vulkan average 4x to 5x with 3840:1080 32:9 resolution with custom ultra and high setting.
nice game :)
Looks more simple in PC, I'm currently playing on a PS4 and the game looks more vibrant.
On ultra, high setting?
@@7heruvim7 on ultra is pretty close to the ps4 version
Because worth optimisation?
@@7heruvim7 maybe
@@Roberto190688 Not at all. PS4 version is blurrier, lower resolution textures, absence of ambient occlusion, lower draw distance, less vegetation density.
Truth hurts.
Does anyone else have a problem when they run the game with Vulcan, where the frames drop from 50-70 fps down to 40-ish? I am playing on 1440p on max settings, and this happens when i approach campfires and other areas where physics particles are used a lot.
Yes i have the same.
@@teksupreme5063 I recently switched to Direct X 12 and i have no problem now. If you still have the issue, you should do the same.
@@HiJack3r I can't use Dx12 I don't know why but it crash after 15 min.
With the Vulkan i can normally play the game, but ive little fps drop near the water and camping...i want to find a fix cause dx12 seems more better in quality and smoothness
@@teksupreme5063 Yep, you're right, same here. It crashes after half an hour or so, and not only that, but at max settings it still drops fps a lot. Damn, I guess we have to wait for Rockstar to fix the game we already paid for.
@@HiJack3r If you watch the twitter of Rockstar Games they said they are working with Nvidia to fix problema caused by the combination of specific hardware gpu+cpu and also for fix stutter and crash.
Nvidia also release a new driver right now.
yep, directx12 is broken now, vulkan smooth on my 1060 as cat
I am on GTX 1060, and nothing above low settings (with lower than native resolution) gives me smooth experience, especially near Saint Denis, Camps, Camp-Fires, Lanterns etc
DX12 is really having some bugs. 9:42 Arthur is running but his not moving.
Same happened in Vulcan on medium settings at exactly the same spot caused the videos to be out of sync so IDK what happened
This is super fake. You traveled around the world taking pictures of mountains and desserts.
А как включать через вулкан?
Minimum graphics on RTX 2080 Ti? dangg son..
Lol 4k bro. Eats GPU power for breakfast
The game has horrible texture pop up issues. Sometimes even mountains go missing 😅🤣
Install Driver Version 431.60 for Nvidia. Pretty much a straight frame time line when it comes to Vulkan.
DX12 👍 (2070 Gaming X)
So basically console runs better than 80% of the PC's. All that hype for nothing 👍
Wait for Digital Foundary's video and then make an assumption.
How can i get d game ?
Makes consoles look.like pure fucking chumps
Can you make Cod Mw graphics low vs med vs high ?
@Lucas Gawor why
@@emirokumus8697 CoD franchise is a cancer for gaming industry, unless you are a stockholder.
@@Shinod FIFA is cancer. The new MW is awesome.