B-36 Walkthrough
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Take a trip around the B-36 airplane at the Strategic Air Command & Aerospace Museum!
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This tour trigger a good memory. My father was in the Air Force (1950-1971). He was a navigator on B-25’s in Korea, then B-52’s (1957-67). Last duty station was Offutt AFB where this B-36 greeted us on arrival at the Bellevue Gate. The ‘museum’ at that time was a modest collection of aircraft and misses on the end of the runway butted up against the city of Bellevue. Col. Carl Jansen (ret) was hired as Director of the SAC Aerospace Museum in 1971, and hired my newly retired father (Lt. Col. Harvey Stovall, retired) as Asst Director. He worked there as a caretaker of sorts for all the planes he had flown or been involved with over his 21 year career, finally retiring in 1991 when the private foundation that owns/ runs the museum now, took over and built the large facility it’s now located in near North Platte NE. I’ve been to the museum many times and heard many stories about the various planes they had and continued to collect over the years (the SR-71 now beautifully suspended in the entryway as you come in among them). Good memories all. Glad to see the museum still going strong.
I was little circa 1954, living with my family in Denver, and clearly remember how impressed I was with the amazing sound of groups of B-36s flying over at high altitude, with 168 cylinders popping away in each. Presumably they were flying out of Texas to buzz Siberia and come back. Their sound in the movie “Strategic Air Command” refreshed the memory.
Dad was Flight Engineer on one of these beasts. He had plenty of B36 stories to tell. I only heard the plane one time, a sound unlike any other.
When I was a little kid growing up in San Jose, CA in the '40s and '50s, a B-36 routinely flew very low over our neighborhood.....it may have been temporarily stationed at Moffett Field. The sight of that huge plane at extremely low altitude and the unforgettable sound of the six Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Majors was quite a thrill for a little kid and an experience I shall never forget.
When I was a kid late 60's, early 70's, the local National Guard had C-124's which had 4 R-4360's. The C-124 was big for its day, and the big radials were the last of the breed. Very impressive to me. But it was a piker compared to the B-36. I'd give anything to have seen a B-36 fly. That had to be amazing.
@@kyleboatright7403 Hi Kyle..in 1967, I was in crash fire at Cubi Pt, PI and I got to check out a lot of different aircraft. Every chance I got, I would go aboard, sit in the cockpit and look around. I got to check out a C-124 once, what struck me was the size of the giant dual main landing gear tires, especially standing next to them. When it took off, same great sound, just less of it.
I saw this B36 the museum as a kid with my dad. He worked as a mechanic on this exact B36 when he was in the AirForce. Finding that out made my visit to the museum.
My dad was stationed in Rapid City and flew on these in the Korean War. He was had amazing stories about the B-36.
Absolutely beautiful aircraft. The early backbone of SAC. As a USAF brat I thought the B-52 was a big bird but it’s not even close size wise. Love the commentary.
1955 "Strategic Air Command" with Jimmy Stewart for good interior and beautiful flying sequences of the B-36.
I went to the SAC Museum for the first time last Thanksgiving week. My family and I were driving through and it made for the perfect pitstop along the way. We spent hours wandering through the place. My family were surprised at how much I geeked out over everything and all the info I had to share on all the planes. It was the first time I ever got to see a B-36. It was a great experience. Hoping to return soon.
That's awesome! I too was there for the first time last year (2020) on the Sunday after Thanksgiving. took my girlfriend - but mainly I just wanted to see the B-36.
Thankyou..! Another example of USA brains and toughness to PREVENT war...! "PeaceMaker " is probably the Best name given to a weapon of War...! Great production..
When I growing up in the 1950's, I remember hearing their distinctive sound at night on their practice bombing missions on American cities. Those big engines and pusher propellers sounded different from any other propeller driven aircraft. I'm sure I'd recognize it today. It is an amazing aircraft. I was in SAC (weapons) in 1963-64 on the B-58's.
I live about an hour and a half from the museum. Been there many times. Its a big place and well worth going too
I was inside that exact airplane back in the late 70s. My buddy and I used to give on the fly tours in many of the aircraft that were a part of The Offutt Aerospace Museum. Fun times.
The PEACEMAKER is one of my personal favourite Aircraft of all time , I definitely plan on visiting this Museum Some day for sure 👍
What a beast. The golden age of technical endeavors and nearly unlimited budgets. Wow, what an era and how I'd love come and see this monster by myself. Thanks for the video
Served it's design and purpose without fail!
Finding a museum with a big enough building is truly a challenge also.............
What I've always admired about the Americans are their technological and engineering capabilities, and their fearless 'think big' attitude. The harder it is to do and the bigger it is, the better. The British Victorian engineers were like that.
@@erincarson8998 Thanks for that interesting snippet of information, I wasn't aware of that. But I wasn't just thinking about the B-36 . . .
J'aimerais bien le voire voler , ce devait être un travail enorme que de le mettre en route , les checks list , et vérifications de toutes sortes sans parler des paperasses inherentes à chaques departs et arrivees alors je presume que les vols par eux même c'etait rien en comparaison de la mise en tension .
Sûre que mettre un tel engin en mouvement n'etait pas des plus simples et ne pouvait en aucun cas s'apparenter à celle d'un Cessna 172 ?
Est ce que les membres d'equipages montaient à bord par le train avant , ou par une porte comme sur un avion type DC4 ou Boeing 707 donc via une passerelle autotractée ?
Agreed. The other thing that helped us to win World War II was the fact that there were many different engineering companies, each with slightly different ideas on how to make an excellent airplane. Combine that with the federal government consciously creating competitions between companies and you ended up with the best airplane for the mission, in most cases. Even without government sponsoring competitions, these engineering companies were all competing against each other, and they knew it. Competition always improves the breed.
One of the best museums I've been to.
A nice short view...many thanks! Your efforts appreciated.
I toured the USAF museum in Dayton and the B-36 was my favorite plane there. I could just imagine a fleet of them bombing a city.
Lucky to have seen 2 of the 4 remaining B-36's: Castle AFB, CA & USAF Museum, OH. Just enormous!
I was fortunate to have seen all 4 remaining B-36's
Pima Air & Space Museum in Tucson has one in their outdoor yard. Hope you get a chance to come visit!
Saw the one that was on the parade ground at Chanute AFB in Rantoul, Illinois in the mid '80's before they closed the base. I'd seen the CAF's Fifi in Houston and the -36 made it look little in comparison. The horizontal stabilizers looked as big as the wings on a DC-3, at least to me. Finally, one of my A&P Instructors in the early '80's was a Flight Engineer on one of these in the '50's and he said he was ALWAYS right busy in the air.
I marched by the B-36 at Chanute winter of 1982 on way to class.
Every one visiting the museum can make a video like this.
Please make a highly detailed video of the inside.
My dad was a flight engineer and pilot on those things.
As you stated, the B-36J was not a Featherweight by default. The first 18 B-36J models, serial numbers 52-2210 through 52-2226 were completed as standard bombers with full crew comfort amenities and full hemispheric turret protection. Ergo, your B-36J -1-CF 52-2217 (along with B-36J -1-CF 52-2220 at the NMUSAF) left the Convair factory in Fort Worth, TX with all full crew comfort amenities and full hemispheric turret protection, and were subsequently converted to configuration Featherweight III at Convair San Diego, CA. It was the last eight B--36J models; serial numbers 52-2819 through 2827 that left the factory in Featherweight, configuration III.
I can hear the info that you presented, being narrated by the guy from, Dark Docs. 😆
@@Conman1181 but with 15 errors and all read as one word
My Father was a engine maintenance member and while at Boring Loring in the winter they did not yet have service bays built for this large aircraft. He specifically recalled how difficult it was pulling spark plugs on the big recips in the bitter cold, and rotating breaks so as to maintain hand mobility.
I would like to see one B-36 flying again. Just once.
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The most interesting B-36 was actually the Cargo Version, the C-99. Only one model was built in the 50's and retired back in the 60's. I remember seeing it every time I drove by Kelly AFB, back in the early 80's. It was sitting out there by itself on the backside of the airfield for years. It was so big they had no other place to park it. They finally dismantled it back in the 2000s to go to Davis-Monthan and later moved it to a field near the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. It's in pieces without enough money to restore it and just rotting away. One observer (who's done aircraft restoration on old airplanes) noted that many of pieces are getting heavily corroded and the plane may not be restorable within a few short years. That's a shame as it's the only model of it's type. Historic doesn't mean getting saved.
I was stationed at Carswell AFB until 1982. General Dynamics had one on their property, next to the base. I think its on display at the Pima Air and Space Museum, and known as, City of Fort Worth. The restoration on it was so near to completion that the team was looking for aircrew.
i used to sit on the landing gear of the b-36 that was on static display at chanute afb back in the 70's. there was a b-58 hustler right across the street from the b-36 also! this plane to me has a sinister smile on its face.
Best example of a B-36 is at the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio
I hope to see more of the inside!
I would love to see it someday.
Awesome. It's a beast!
As a kid, I remember seeing and hearing these planes flying around in the skies. The ones I saw were from Carswell AFB in Ft. Worth.
I was born at Carswell AFB while my dad was stationed there as a Flight Engineer on B-36s.
I saw an RB-36 at the Castle Air Museum at Merced, California. It’s a MONSTER!
This aircraft is simply ridiculous !!!
My dad's first assignment was as a flight mechanic on the Peacemaker.
Based on what I’ve heard about the engines, he was a busy man!
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B-36 was emergency capability because the fusion weapons it carried were all 1st gen emergency capability. Nonetheless it actually served well frontline most of the 50s and it can be argued the featherweight was very survivable because its max altitude made it difficult for even the Mig-17 to effectively maneuver against it without stalling and falling and failing to reclimb to a better position. The B-52 surpassed the B-36 featherweight in altitude and speed but by that time the Mig 21 was available and SAMs could reach more than 80,000 feet. SAMs spelled the end of high altitude bomb missions for any SAC bomber, while most could adapt to low level the B-36 couldn't and was retired. The lack of in-flight refueling capability even in the late 50s was a major strike against the B-36 as a factor toward its retirement.
Actually, the B-36 never needed in flight refueling, because of it's massive internal fuel capacity.
Really the B-47 began to replace the B-36 in front line service not long after the B-47s introduction. SAC and the USAF didn’t decide to try the low altitude approach concept until the 1980s. The B-52 had all sorts of enhanced vision gear to let it do what it was never build for. However this was how Regan brought back the B-1 project. By converting the B-1A into the B-1B. The B-2 was also under development around then
It has flown continuously for 32 hours.
I saw this airplane after the museum opened, it looked terrible. There was a hole in the wing big enough to drop a desk through. Looks like they've done a lot of work to restore this historic plane.
I remember that hole during a visit to the museum in 1990. They said it was caused by a tornado that had hit several years earlier. At the time they didn't have the money to repair it. At least it looked better than the pictures I saw of the B36's at Carswell AFB in Texas after a tornado back in 1952. That disaster damaged 83 B-36's (two thirds of the fleet at time). Only one B-36 was declared a total loss, all the others were repaired within a year. I'm glad they finally overhauled the plane at Offutt AFB and moved it inside. The weather in that part of the country is just brutal on aircraft, especially a static display. I enjoyed the museum, including the Goblin Fighter they had just below the B-36 and the British Vulcan Bomber near it. I'm hoping to see another restored B-36 at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson, Arizona (next to the Bone Yard at Davis-Monthan AFB) sometime later this year and visit the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio next year.
@@marks1638 That one B36 that was a total loss was rebuilt to carry a nuclear reactor inside. It was designated NB-36.
@@tomtom8306 Maybe they should have left it that way. Flying around with a running nuclear reactor over the US doesn't sound like the brightest idea. But in those days they didn't think radiation was that big of a deal.
IDK, the painting job makes it looks too clean, I'd leave also the bullet impacts and deterioration, that kind of give the machine some kind of "historical" aspect to it.
@@SilverSpoon_ The B36 was never used in actual combat.
I hope they bring one of these back in to flying condition
I saw the B-36 that is at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson Arizona. It's still amazes me that that big plane could actually get airborne. And those 36 cylinder 4-row radials are impressive as well. The Warhawk Museum in Nampa, Idaho has an example of that model of engine on display.
28 cylinders
Saying this airplane is "big" is an understatement;
I remember when the museum was still in downtown Bellevue, right next to Offutt AFB. The B-36 was parked outdoors for years, and so little was thought of it that somebody had screwed a 2x4 across the vertical stabilizer to keep the rudder from flapping in the wind. It may not be pristine now, but it's a lot better off than it was then! The SAC/Aerospace Museum is also one of the few places you can see an XF-85 Goblin, the tiny jet fighter that was designed to be carried in a B-36 bomb bay to fight off enemy fighters... it makes a cameo appearance in the background of this video. I don't know about now, but the last time I was there you could walk past the end of the B-36 and see “Greased Lightning,” one of the few surviving B-58s and in fact the one that flew from Tokyo to the US to set a record for longest supersonic flight. Well worth pulling off Interstate 80 to see if you happen to be driving across Nebraska, COVID permitting...
I went to the SAC museum at Offutt in about 1992 or so and this beast was sitting outside next to an SR-71. I remember being amazed at the width of the tail section/elevators - empennage in general. I do recall that it was in need of some attention, glad they've got it inside now to help preserve it. Thanks for posting this video.
Thanks for the advice, would love to visit this museum 👍👍👍
Not a walk 'through' ... a walk 'around'. Common Man !
Well , it's true what they say ... everything's bigger in America ! First time l saw one was when the late ,great , James Stewart starred in the film about SAC . He was a squadron leader in WW2 and flew B17 Boeing Flying Fortress. (Some people may not know that ) Thank you .
His combat missions were in B-24s.
This monster is an amazing piece of 1940's technology!
My Pops worked on its engines and when they added the jets used the 36 to transition personnel to jet engines
love it...
I wish somebody would show the access from the main fuselage into the wing, and the passageway through the wing.
They need to strip the paint off and polish the metal like the one at the Museum of the Air Force in Dayton Ohio.
The one at the Air Force Museum is wearing a silver finish paint scheme, with white undersides, to protect the aircraft from the blast of its weapon.
Great video thank you 🙏
My dad had a cousin who's husband flew these. He said he and the co-pilot had to put their feet on the instrument panel to get the thing off the ground since the hydraulics were not all that great.
The B-36 at the Air Force Museum in Dayton is in beautiful shape and price of admission is great, too. $0.00.
as a military brat i’ve seen only one of these . i couldn’t walk up to it because it was on the tarmac at (then) kelly field and i was a passenger aboard a C-9 nightingale
Three turnin, four burnin, one smokin, one on fire, one AWOL...
I had read...LONG before yt, that the prototype had huge single tires for the main mounts. The concentration of weight limited it to being able to safely land at 3 airfields across the country.
The 4 wheel boogie was an innovation that was less out of engineering then needed. Yes the original prototype had a massive single wheel it also lacked the 4 jets. Both the jets and the improved boogie were standard on production model B-36s
They have one of these gears at SAC. Tire about 9 feet tall.
1:46 freeze the video frame at this time - two interesting observations. One is the ashtray, and the other one is that someone went back in time and inserted a modern vacuum cleaner made out of plastic into this aircraft.
I spent many a day inside this plane while still in Ft. Worth. When I'd get off work in River Oaks TX, I'd go by the old G.D. field and run kids off who were messing with it.
My father served as Bomb/Nav on the B-36 from 1954 to 1956 when they cross trained him on the brand-new B-52. He told me that there is actually a catwalk inside the wings so the flight engineer could access the engines in flight. I always wondered if he was pulling my leg. Does anyone know?
According to Wikipedia, the flight engineer could crawl through a passageway in flight to access the engines, but only when unpressurized, presumably at lower altitudes
See crew member interview of Sgt. Preisler at Pima. The plane could go to 63,000 feet and was entirely immune to Mig 15s. It mapped all of Russia. The engines caught fire a lot due to oil leaks. The rear stabilizer was not power activated. The props were heated by exhaust.
The WW2 generation were geniuses! This airplane design was laid down in 1941...unbelievable!
01:45 and it has enough vacuum cleaners for my workshop: one!
I thought, WOW it even had future technology !
1:30 The two boxes on the dashboard are the nuclear weapon status monitors - never carried more than two.
Very cool! Was that Shop Vac standard equipment on the J model?
Why didn't I sub to this channel 6 months ago???
Man ..missed opportunity is an understatement.
Problem Solved!!! 🏴☠️
I've always wondered what one would sound like in real life at takeoff or a wing flying overhead
Anyone know if Mark Hamilton still works in restoration at the museum? He gave us a tour inside the B-36 a few years ago.
I saw a few photos that showed the super super fortress that was cool made a super fortress look tiny i think this was way bigger
Holy factoids, batman
Interesting plane but not much of a "walk-thru".
More like a walk around
Sigh,,,,yeah.... 😕
Was thinking the same thing....
Well there’s not much to walk thru. She has very cramped spaces.
@@spectrumstudios4848 Well, a walkthrough USUALLY goes THROUGH them anyway. That's the essential part of a walk through, you know WALKING THROUGH? If you don't walkthrough, then it isn't REALLY a walkthrough in any shape, form, or fashion. So.....
I went to school on the B 36 at Sheppard AFB in 1956 But ended up working F 84 F
6-foot man could stand up inside the wing..........
Imagine the maintenance hours vs flight hours.
Please check the volume on these videos. I have my volume full and can barely hear.
*"One of the largest combat aircraft ever built..." "aircraft" is never pluralized like "aircrafts".
Gatekeeper spelling N*zi
@@JustaPilot1 PC police, must make you proud!
I was a B52G pilot then aircraft commander during the VietNam conflict and the cold war with the USSR. But I was always in awe of the Aluminum Overcast, the B36. So I was hoping for a more technically informative tour that I could relate to instead of looking at a guy reading a script, no offence...
B-36's with square tip props don't have carburetors, they are fuel injected. These fuel injected versions are the later models and can't freeze up.
@David Vance No idea.
Had never heard that, thought they were pressure carburetors.
They never had fuel injection it was all carborat
They never had a fuel injection it had carbs it's whole life span,the square tips were just experiment, the fourth one was at CHANUTE AFB BEFORE MOVING HER TO CASTLE AFB BY TRAIN AND TRUCK. I WAS CHANUTE 1982,84,86 WHEN SHE SAT OPPOSITE OF A C MODEL 52 IF I REMEMBER RIGHT
@@thomascreary990 Yes, they did, and that one does. It’s just as I said and if you think about you’ll see it has to be. Why did the carburetor freeze up and plug fowling problems go away? The square tip props were pretty common too, they were hollow and exhaust gas flowed through them and exited near the tips to keep them from icing.
My dad saw the thing on the drawing board in 1941.
was definitely hoping to see inside of it more given how rare these planes are, so not raelly a walkthrough when you only sit in the cockpit for 2 minutes
There are other vids. Its packed with tube equipment, radar, ecm, auto pilot, chaff dispensers. Tail gun is radar directed. Top and bottom turrets were remote control.
I thought it was 3 smoking, 2 on fire, the rest seem ok.?
It's always been six turning and four burning.
I’ve heard “Two turning, two burning, two choking, two smoking, and two unaccounted for.” 😄.
No interior walkthrough?
The one and only cargo version of the B-36 used to sit in San Antonio Texas
It was neglected and vandalized. Eventually moved to a secure location and selected for restoration. Model is XC-99.
@@desireegrisham3892 It is at the restoration facility at the USAF Museum in Dayton, Ohio. I can't see the museum ever committing the resources to restore such a large aircraft, since there was only one of them... ever. It would be nice, though.
Why were they still using carbys, surely WW2 should have taught them to use fuel injection? Just asking, I really don’t know much about these lovely warbirds.’
Need a little footage showing the whole plane in wide angle.
Hope there are plans to fully restore that magnificent bird to flying condition
You'll never see one of these beasts as a fly able warbler, because of its size means that only a handful of fields that it could operate from, and there's the matter of cost to restore, operate it, maintain it, and where to base it, when it's not flying. That's why there'll never be any flyable examples, ever.
@@johnosbourn4312 That’s what they said about the Union Pacific Big Boy…they would never get one going…
It's just mind-boggling to realize when you think about it, the amount of tax-payer money the US Govt. spent during the big hey-day of the Cold War just to produce a massive weapon's system that lasted only 12 ish year's in service. Not to mention all the fighter aircraft that were being designed and produced only to be used a few years before an improved aircraft type replaced it.
AND YET...the offspring of those developmental program craft are, in some cases, STILL in front line service today. The B52, the F4 Phantom... So while they rolled thru a lot of evolutionary designs fast, the results often more than paid for it in longevity.
There is an old saying: It take Billions to prevail in a fight and ALL of it to lose one....
Enjoy your freedom to express your opinion today.....
@MEs61 Turkey and Iran may or may not have a few in service.
Technology was in such a state of flux back in the late 40's and through the 50's. If you designed something, six months later, we'd learned something new and your design was no longer cutting edge. Jet engines, better jet engines, new alloys, swept wings, afterburners, the area rule, and a bunch of other technologies came to fruition during those years. A strategic bomber staying relevant for 12 years was pretty amazing, IMO given that fighters went through at least 3 generations during that same span of time.
Seems like conventional a puller prop configuration would have solved two big problems. Namely engine overheating and carburetor icing.
Pullers wouldn't have worked with that wing design.
@@tylerbonser7686 - You'll have to elaborate on that because I don't see it.
@@scootergeorge9576 the shape of the wing. The engines would have to be very far forward so the propellers wouldn't hit the wing and would completely change the balance of the plane.
@@tylerbonser7686 - Could have used a straight leading edge and the fuselage is typically made in segments. The fuselage length, either forward or aft of the center of gravity could have been changed quite easily.
@@scootergeorge9576 wow it's pointless to have a conversation with someone who has so little understanding on a subject
Ce ne sono ancora dei B36 funzionanti e che volano?
4 left? I know of 2 and a half.. yours.. the one at Pima, and the parts and pieces of one owned by Walter spacula in Ohio.. where's #4?
Castle Air Museum Atwater CA and the Air Force Museum in Dayton have the others.
Number 4 is The united States Air Force Museum, Dayton Ohio
Not to sound like an idiot but its Walter soplata. He lived just south of me in the south Russell/Chesterland ohio area. He was an interesting guy to say the least. I moved to Tennessee about 6 years ago and stopped paying much attention but I heard most if not all of his collection is gone.
Like i said not trying to be rude or anything but it might make it easier for someone trying to look him up.
I heard the B-36 was louder than the TU-95 Bear.
B-36 was hidden in aviation somehow B-52 replace soon after with Jets engine. Someone told me flying too slow 190 miles an hour.
A 36 would go over 400 mph. The Tu 95 will do 525 mph.
B-36 average cruise speed was 230 mph. Level high speed was 430+ mph.
The B-36 Bomber looks like an up scaled B-29
The b36 had a bigger payload than a b52 if you dont count external storage
That's because it lose half of tone in dead weight due to lube oil leaking out.
@@mshotz1 it was fuel leaks but not on the latest revisions
Well, I'm still waiting for the "Walkthrough".
All I ever wanted to know about this massive aircraft is if it had a 5 🌟 galley to feed the crew on long flights(?).
Yes.
@@rogersmith7396 That's fascinating and reassuring to me. Very cool too. Thank you.
@@TralfazConstruction Not much of one. I think they had coffee and probably cold sandwiches. Too early for microwave. See Wright Pattersons complete tour of the inside. A crew member said anything on the floor froze due to 50 below air temp and anything up high cooked due to heat exchangers in the ceiling.
@@rogersmith7396 Thank you for the very interesting details. I'll need to watch Strategic Air Command (1955) again soon. When I was in grade school the movie was broadcast in prime time at least twice. Next day in school we youngsters discussed the crash and rescue scene mostly.
@@TralfazConstruction All I remember was he was only in the 36 long enough to crash it in the snow. Then he was off to 47s or 52s.
I thought we were going to see the inside
Me too. I did get to see the inside of this aircraft at a "crawl through the planes day" (probably Memorial Day) at the old SAC Museum about 1988.
Fly it I want to see it
These are the engine exhaust. All the lube oils comes out here!
I am astounded by the overall condition of this particular B-36 especially when compared to the XF-85 standing next to it. The B-36 that was restored in Texas by the ex- employees and volunteers to an almost airworthy condition before they lost their space so it had to be moved to Arizona is a far better example in my opinion. The historical significance of this aircraft demands more respect.
Wright Patterson Air Force Base museum in Dayton Ohio has (or had) a very good condition example stored indoors. It's been awhile since I've visited so that may have changed.