First move I would believe was just a mistake but the 2nd move was pretty bad. The only thing that would prevent me from calling it a dirty move is just like you said, he might actually think that’s acceptable driving because of what he’s seen on TV or from other players. I just don’t understand how any can think that pushing another car off track is good driving, even if they do have the inside line it’s still unacceptable.
I think if you only have a quarter the car alongside then really the car behind should yield bit completely alongside or ahead you have to give the space agree 100% with you here 👍
First one looked very much like lack of track awareness of space needed on the outside. He left room, but not enough. Second one was just poor driving in my opinion - boarders on dirty, but maybe not. Have race them in the past and they have been clean.
I agree 2nd just looked like he believed it was his line but clearly gave zero space very much a move we are in F1 all the time but thankfully has been started to get punished in F1 👊
The first incident, you could give him the benefit of the doubt, but the second one definitely looked deliberate. I wouldn't feel proud if I had done that one to be honest.. ;-) EDIT: And as you show later in the video, he is racing clean, so might've been another mistake, but in that case the second incident still called for giving the position back
Its called Brazilian racing.. they call it "it's just racing" , but god forbid you return the favor, then you don't know how to drive.. there's no such thing or concept of gentleman racing or code there.. most of them are just hot headed "don't you dare overtake me" kinda racers.. sad but true..
lack of awareness shouldn't be an excuse on this game. the 1st one... maybe was a racing accident but the 2nd one was dirty. I would've drove through him if he did stuff like that to me.
Good to see you on NA server :) I saw you race but didn't know it was you, thought it was a knock off account lol. Will say hi next time. Regarding that TT, if you carefully look at the review, you can see he is pushing you wide with his wheels pointing away from you. He steered too much + too much power, so he under steered into you. The lap after you can see how much understeer he has in the TT through that corner. I did a couple of races in the TT and you have to take completely different lines with it being FF to make it work. Great video :)
I think if it was one time he did it, then it would unintentional but since he did it multiple times I think it was a little dirty because personally I don’t think there a way of him not know in where you are
I think lack of awareness along with poor driving and understeer. But the good dirty drivers know how to tow that line of just enough to be dirty yet not blatant enough where you can call them out for it. So maybe it was on purpose.
You need to look at the level of the Lobbies you are racing in and then think, would A+ rated drivers really be here with such lack of awareness after the time they would have put in to gain the rating.
Fun combo. Mix of chaos and good racing. I was the lambo who got absolutely mullered in the bus stop 🤣The Audi driver: poor driving in my view. A-rated driver, contact only happened when they were on the inside, and not when they were the outside, selectively careless at the very least.
Passing on the outside line is a matter of trust; if you don’t know them, assume they will run you wide, and he did. Good move to pass on the inside where you had the advantage. I think running wide is dirty, and don’t like it when It’s done in F1. I am not an experienced driver, so this is just my opinion.
I think this guy is dirty, but not in the sense he's gonna intent wreck, he's just gonna take his line and doesn't care if you're there and just expects you to get out of the way.
Never expected that me, a mediocre player, would appear in one of your videos. I'm the guy that created the mess in lap 2. Being honest, I saw the green Subaru only when the contact happened, and then of course, lost control and chaos came. On another point, it's quite frustrating when being a mediocre player, you get paired with A or A+ drivers when supposedly the game should create balanced lobbies.
It’s a combination of low player count and PS4/PS5 lobbies being split. You’re still getting matched with the available players closest to your rank, problem is there isn’t very many available players to be matched.
It’s because there won’t have been enough A plus drivers entered into race mate it’s just how matchmaking works 👍 GTWS is always the best for matchmaking 👊
A couple of points to this one.... 1. You're playing on the NA servers at a time of day when mostly kids are on.... lol 😆 ...not the most competitive lobbies.... 2. Funny how you start ny saying how "clean" the races are on the NA servers lately, but every lap had bad driving at least and dirty at most.... nonetheless incidents every lap? ....granted mostly bad driving early on... 3. The "culprit" ....now thats normal driving from less experienced and overly competitive individuals.... The "you ain't passing me" mentality even when faster... Really these are just dailies....whats the prize? DR? SR?..... Sure not a cash prize or driving contract.... chill out kids its just a game...
Rightly or wrongly, using all of the track is normal in real life racing from 8 years old in karts onwards, even if someone is trying an outside overtake, the clerk of the course will see this as the overtaking drivers fault, for not backing off, if they end up running out of road.
He's abusing the FF physics. FF car seem to be able to go into the grass without much problem. This nutball uses that to make sure he's on the inside of the corner and pushes people wide. Being that he's from Brazil, the F1 comment fits perfectly. As a native NCSA driver, I get to see plenty of green flags that think they are Ayrton Senna and they always come up short on the skills to be Senna.
The first one "might" have been a mistake - but to me it looked deliberate. The second was absolutely on purpose - which leads one to suspect the iffy first hit was as well.
That guy is definitely watching too much F1, he drives like Verstappen and Ocon They intentionally force another driver off track, but they are well behaved when they are on the outside They’re small-minded, dirty when there’s no consequences
Second possibly was a bit on purpose as he would have been able to see you were there. I didn't know if you could tell from the steering info in the replay?!
Brazilian here, it's annoying to see people judging attitudes just by the flag that the player has next to his name, as if it were the character of all inhabitants of that country, more respect please
Almost every single time I've had people deliberately running me off the road for absolutely no reason it's been a Brazilian, so if acknowledging that Brazilians are the scum of the American servers bothers you so much that's a you problem.
could be dirty but not for nothing sometimes i do the same thing in forza motorsport 7 but the difference between me and him im always trying to account for space of my opponent. like i will push anyone wide when i see someone apporaching me into a corner i will push them wide but as soon as i cannot see my opponent headlights i usually go into the defense line so that they dont end up like you in this race!!!!
At first no now second time he's racing dirty and I don't like people that do that if you got to clean overtake on them and you give them room and they still keep doing it that makes them a dirty driver
A bit of the pot calling the kettle black calling people dirty while your making a conscious choice not to qualify, start at the back and ruining people's races and DR's no Kieran? 2 biggest things ruining GT 7 at present 1. A high number of players dont know the difference between driving and racing. 2. UA-camrs starting from the back and aggressively pushing their way through the field. I have lost count how many times i have been knocked down to DR B because of A+ drivers starting from the back, its a joke!
Verstapen's fan? The 1st time is ok, but 2nd time is not ... Can be the case he does not have radar on bcs of fuel but, yeah he must be RBR fan só he thinks This is ok 😂
IMO if you are on the outside and a driver has the inside, it is the driver on the OUTSIDE who's made the mistake trying to get the overtake done. If i'm on the inside, I DO NOT have to give you space if you're trying to overtake and run out of room. That driver cut off you're acceleration pathyway which is fairplay. Secondly, you mentioned that if a car is 2/3 of a car length ahead its their corner, if you are playiing by those guidelines, the final corner should have been the other driver, and you should have yielded.
First move I would believe was just a mistake but the 2nd move was pretty bad. The only thing that would prevent me from calling it a dirty move is just like you said, he might actually think that’s acceptable driving because of what he’s seen on TV or from other players. I just don’t understand how any can think that pushing another car off track is good driving, even if they do have the inside line it’s still unacceptable.
I think if you only have a quarter the car alongside then really the car behind should yield bit completely alongside or ahead you have to give the space agree 100% with you here 👍
In Brazil .if you're not cheating you are not trying .Pure filth I'm afraid .
First one looked very much like lack of track awareness of space needed on the outside. He left room, but not enough. Second one was just poor driving in my opinion - boarders on dirty, but maybe not. Have race them in the past and they have been clean.
I agree 2nd just looked like he believed it was his line but clearly gave zero space very much a move we are in F1 all the time but thankfully has been started to get punished in F1 👊
He’s Brazilian.
Enough said.
Every time I play online if I see a Brazilian driver, I always get an overwhelming feeling of dread.
2:56 The opening laps of this race were really fun. Finished best DR. B driver. Good times.
He is Brazilian that is what they do.
The first incident, you could give him the benefit of the doubt, but the second one definitely looked deliberate. I wouldn't feel proud if I had done that one to be honest.. ;-)
EDIT: And as you show later in the video, he is racing clean, so might've been another mistake, but in that case the second incident still called for giving the position back
Tipical for Brasilian driver. There good driver but majority of them can’t stand been pass so they block and push.
Lack of awareness isn't an excuse. There are too many HUD options to get away with that
One thing I have to say is I love seeing the Audi getting used.
8:08 absolute carnage behind you on the entry to the bus stop 😅
Its called Brazilian racing.. they call it "it's just racing" , but god forbid you return the favor, then you don't know how to drive.. there's no such thing or concept of gentleman racing or code there.. most of them are just hot headed "don't you dare overtake me" kinda racers.. sad but true..
lack of awareness shouldn't be an excuse on this game. the 1st one... maybe was a racing accident but the 2nd one was dirty. I would've drove through him if he did stuff like that to me.
Good to see you on NA server :) I saw you race but didn't know it was you, thought it was a knock off account lol. Will say hi next time.
Regarding that TT, if you carefully look at the review, you can see he is pushing you wide with his wheels pointing away from you. He steered too much + too much power, so he under steered into you. The lap after you can see how much understeer he has in the TT through that corner. I did a couple of races in the TT and you have to take completely different lines with it being FF to make it work.
Great video :)
I think if it was one time he did it, then it would unintentional but since he did it multiple times I think it was a little dirty because personally I don’t think there a way of him not know in where you are
I think lack of awareness along with poor driving and understeer.
But the good dirty drivers know how to tow that line of just enough to be dirty yet not blatant enough where you can call them out for it.
So maybe it was on purpose.
You need to look at the level of the Lobbies you are racing in and then think, would A+ rated drivers really be here with such lack of awareness after the time they would have put in to gain the rating.
Black Friday sale as well. It was 39C$ last week. Probably lots of people who bought it as well
Fun combo. Mix of chaos and good racing. I was the lambo who got absolutely mullered in the bus stop 🤣The Audi driver: poor driving in my view. A-rated driver, contact only happened when they were on the inside, and not when they were the outside, selectively careless at the very least.
He probably does watch F1 and thinks a move like that is acceptable.
Passing on the outside line is a matter of trust; if you don’t know them, assume they will run you wide, and he did. Good move to pass on the inside where you had the advantage. I think running wide is dirty, and don’t like it when It’s done in F1. I am not an experienced driver, so this is just my opinion.
I think this guy is dirty, but not in the sense he's gonna intent wreck, he's just gonna take his line and doesn't care if you're there and just expects you to get out of the way.
Classic Verstappen! :P
I think more of a ran out of talent moment and awareness was poor, nothing overly malicious
Agree with this initial thought during race was he was a 🛎️ but watching it back o just think poor awareness and lack race craft.
Never expected that me, a mediocre player, would appear in one of your videos. I'm the guy that created the mess in lap 2. Being honest, I saw the green Subaru only when the contact happened, and then of course, lost control and chaos came. On another point, it's quite frustrating when being a mediocre player, you get paired with A or A+ drivers when supposedly the game should create balanced lobbies.
It’s a combination of low player count and PS4/PS5 lobbies being split. You’re still getting matched with the available players closest to your rank, problem is there isn’t very many available players to be matched.
It’s because there won’t have been enough A plus drivers entered into race mate it’s just how matchmaking works 👍 GTWS is always the best for matchmaking 👊
@@winnie8478 I see, that explains a lot.
@@thekie25 It seems I'll have to accept the lobbies as they are. Hope to see you from time to time and not making any mess at all from my part😅
supercars in australia are banging doors every race thats in the real world
A couple of points to this one....
1. You're playing on the NA servers at a time of day when mostly kids are on.... lol 😆
...not the most competitive lobbies....
2. Funny how you start ny saying how "clean" the races are on the NA servers lately, but every lap had bad driving at least and dirty at most.... nonetheless incidents every lap?
....granted mostly bad driving early on...
3. The "culprit" ....now thats normal driving from less experienced and overly competitive individuals....
The "you ain't passing me" mentality even when faster...
Really these are just dailies....whats the prize? DR? SR?.....
Sure not a cash prize or driving contract.... chill out kids its just a game...
Rightly or wrongly, using all of the track is normal in real life racing from 8 years old in karts onwards, even if someone is trying an outside overtake, the clerk of the course will see this as the overtaking drivers fault, for not backing off, if they end up running out of road.
He is doing it deliberately.
the incident is hard to call, what i will say is some drivers don't like to be out driven (shown up) and will take an opportunity to retaliate.
Latin temperament and lack of etiquette
You hit the wall on the power. If you’d have gotten a penalty, you’d have deserved it.
He's abusing the FF physics. FF car seem to be able to go into the grass without much problem. This nutball uses that to make sure he's on the inside of the corner and pushes people wide. Being that he's from Brazil, the F1 comment fits perfectly. As a native NCSA driver, I get to see plenty of green flags that think they are Ayrton Senna and they always come up short on the skills to be Senna.
The first one I gave him the benefit of the doubt...the rest....dirty.....he knows what he was doing
I don't know how to say this gently, but the Brazilians love to race very aggressively. Plain and simple.
Looks like he was trying to be aggressive but not very observant of the track width
That's dirty driving in my book, had opportunity to leave racing room on all occasions, you did well not to just punt him off
The first one "might" have been a mistake - but to me it looked deliberate. The second was absolutely on purpose - which leads one to suspect the iffy first hit was as well.
Selectively dirty, perhaps? Dirty when he can cover it up,but clean in most other cases? 🤔
That Brazillian is copying Lance Stroll, doesn't like others passing him.
This is a Nascar track so yeah they are going rub fenders I think GT loves the side by side racing everyone is fan of the close racing
Of the 3 incidents, 2 i think are unintentional, but the last one smells like dirty driving 😅
That guy is definitely watching too much F1, he drives like Verstappen and Ocon
They intentionally force another driver off track, but they are well behaved when they are on the outside
They’re small-minded, dirty when there’s no consequences
More like Sir Lulu!
Ya to much F1 he think he is Lewis 😂😂😂
Second possibly was a bit on purpose as he would have been able to see you were there. I didn't know if you could tell from the steering info in the replay?!
In the second one I do believe he just went full throttle and had massiv understeer in that FF TT. If so it's just bad driving imo.
That was defo deliberate!!!
Brazilian here, it's annoying to see people judging attitudes just by the flag that the player has next to his name, as if it were the character of all inhabitants of that country, more respect please
Almost every single time I've had people deliberately running me off the road for absolutely no reason it's been a Brazilian, so if acknowledging that Brazilians are the scum of the American servers bothers you so much that's a you problem.
Great to see so many comments 🎉🎉🎉
could be dirty but not for nothing sometimes i do the same thing in forza motorsport 7 but the difference between me and him im always trying to account for space of my opponent. like i will push anyone wide when i see someone apporaching me into a corner i will push them wide but as soon as i cannot see my opponent headlights i usually go into the defense line so that they dont end up like you in this race!!!!
watching to much F1
You are such a good comentater
This is done to use your car so that he can stay on track at higher speed, dirty driver.
At first no now second time he's racing dirty and I don't like people that do that if you got to clean overtake on them and you give them room and they still keep doing it that makes them a dirty driver
National flag says intentional
Dirty driver.
A bit of the pot calling the kettle black calling people dirty while your making a conscious choice not to qualify, start at the back and ruining people's races and DR's no Kieran?
2 biggest things ruining GT 7 at present
1. A high number of players dont know the difference between driving and racing.
2. UA-camrs starting from the back and aggressively pushing their way through the field.
I have lost count how many times i have been knocked down to DR B because of A+ drivers starting from the back, its a joke!
Brazilian... nuff said
dirty driver. There I said it!
Dirty driving
Is it dirty?
complete dirt
Yeah, it is clearly dirty racing in my opinion
Verstapen's fan? The 1st time is ok, but 2nd time is not ... Can be the case he does not have radar on bcs of fuel but, yeah he must be RBR fan só he thinks This is ok 😂
Sir Lulu-Fan
IMO if you are on the outside and a driver has the inside, it is the driver on the OUTSIDE who's made the mistake trying to get the overtake done. If i'm on the inside, I DO NOT have to give you space if you're trying to overtake and run out of room. That driver cut off you're acceleration pathyway which is fairplay. Secondly, you mentioned that if a car is 2/3 of a car length ahead its their corner, if you are playiing by those guidelines, the final corner should have been the other driver, and you should have yielded.
nope
Sir Lulu? Is that you?
He's based for showing the 4wd shitters the door
Great vid once again ✌️
Dirty driver