Will Amds Zen 5 Destory Intel ?

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  • Will Amds Zen 5 Destory Intel ?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 64

  • @shanent5793
    @shanent5793 Рік тому +1

    The AMD CCDs are meant to be used in servers, where the packages can have up to twelve of them. The link still has to work over the longest distance so moving them closer on a Ryzen CPU doesn't make much of a difference. Direct inter-CCD communication would be going backwards to Zen 1. They should add L2 cache so there are fewer victims to push into L3

  • @blueeyednick
    @blueeyednick Рік тому +14

    I swear this man can never get a title written correctly

    • @gaijinkuri684
      @gaijinkuri684 Рік тому

      Being dyslectic will do that to you.

    • @ska4dragons
      @ska4dragons Рік тому +2

      ​@@gaijinkuri684 Lack of proofreading*

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 Рік тому

      @@ska4dragons You think someone can be dyslexic when they write but not when they read?

    • @blueeyednick
      @blueeyednick Рік тому

      ​​@@BlackJesus8463the dickriding is strong here. I don't hate Paul i love him and im in every stream, he's not god almighty im saying this so that he can do better videos sh-thead

    • @ska4dragons
      @ska4dragons Рік тому

      @@BlackJesus8463 Did I say that?

  • @tstager1978
    @tstager1978 Рік тому +4

    Zen 5 is getting a new ladder cache that will improve latency.

  • @coryray8436
    @coryray8436 Рік тому +1

    That jacket looks very cozy.

  • @dante19890
    @dante19890 Рік тому +1

    how badly need intel to fuck up arrow lake if they going from 10nm to 3nm and its not gonna be a a huge improvement. On paper that node shift is monumental.
    Are they just gonna go for a small increase and only focus on efficiency or what

  • @SFAJmz05
    @SFAJmz05 Рік тому +2

    They do what you said, and I'd like to see how they cool the things, or are they going to convince the world that 115c is normal too? I think they are screwed.

  • @mixit2413
    @mixit2413 Рік тому +4

    Zen 6 will be tiles with cache on top so will look and behave like monolithic and fix the amd latency issue. also Zen 5 is out of sequence with intel so if it launches on time like zen 3 should have 12 months of dominance before Intel come back at them.

  • @cracklingice
    @cracklingice Рік тому +1

    How you make the super chip is have a monolithic chip with stacked cache that has an IF link (or two) to tack on the ZenC cores for the multithread that really doesn't even need to be on consumer socket anyway because it just leads to HEDT pricing without the features that made HEDT worth it. #BringbackHEDT

  • @FroggyTWrite
    @FroggyTWrite Рік тому +3

    a quick bulleted outline and basic editing would go a long way on videos like these

  • @RasmusDyhrFrederiksen
    @RasmusDyhrFrederiksen Рік тому +5

    Intel sucks down insane amounts of power - that's the big difference...

    • @yuvanraj2271
      @yuvanraj2271 Рік тому

      Bruh, that is the main change in the new intel. 😂 From meteor lake they are getting into new architecture.

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 Рік тому

      @@yuvanraj2271 Lets bring that up again when it matters.

  • @tstager1978
    @tstager1978 Рік тому +5

    Framechasers is an Intel fanboy. That AMdip is only in his mind or he intentionally makes it happen.

  • @juhakallen
    @juhakallen Рік тому

    cores discuss thru cache, it's called cache snooping

    • @juhakallen
      @juhakallen Рік тому

      everything is about of cache coherency

  • @alexg9155
    @alexg9155 Рік тому +1

    I stopped at Alder Lake mopped the floor with AMD.

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 Рік тому

    Paul your a human static electricity generator with that fleece sweater! You should not handle a raw cpu lol.

  • @nivea878
    @nivea878 Рік тому +1

    As an Intel user, Intel is finished AF*

  • @raythomas3701
    @raythomas3701 Рік тому +3

    Unless prices are lower I'll stick with Intel at the i3 i5 level

  • @laszlozsurka8991
    @laszlozsurka8991 Рік тому +3

    "Will Amds Zen 5 Destory Intel" 14th gen Raptor Lake refresh? Definitely... 15th gen Arrow Lake... I doubt.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism Рік тому

      Performance relative to manufacturing cost will likely be much better, but consumers likely won't see much of a difference in value per dollar, at least between a lot of CPUs from each brand. Each CPU will have some pros and cons vs. the nearest equivalents from the other brand, most likely.

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism Рік тому

      Why are Intel and AMD CPUs like gay lovers?
      Answer: Because they trade blows

    • @laszlozsurka8991
      @laszlozsurka8991 Рік тому

      @@syncmonism But also define "destroys"... in performance I think 15th gen will win, in power consumption and efficiency Zen 5.

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 Рік тому

      LOL ! Just except it ! After Zen-6 it will be ALL GAME OVER for Intel !!!

    • @laszlozsurka8991
      @laszlozsurka8991 Рік тому

      @@gertjanvandermeij4265 HAHA no it won't. AMD may win but then Intel will take back... it's called competition.

  • @djohannsson8268
    @djohannsson8268 Рік тому +1

    Never count Intel out. They have the technology to create a L3 cache as big as AMD. So it becomes a question of price vs performance of the next generation. Hope Intel adds an HEDT processor to their list, then AMD might release a threadripper non-pro to compete.

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 Рік тому

      YES DO count Intel out ! It is clearly all GAME OVER for them ! Specially on the server market ! AMD EPYC is gonna RULE the world !

  • @skyyefinance
    @skyyefinance Рік тому

    Dude Paul I think you blocked me on discord. Just wanted to clarify -- when I said you were funny, I meant I love the humor on your videos, not that your conclusions were funny. In fact, your new channel plays on that humor and that is f*cking great! Anyway. You taught me a lot about GPUs. Wish you success!

  • @JohnThunder
    @JohnThunder Рік тому

    'DeStory' about AMD Zen 5 is true 😉

  • @BlackJesus8463
    @BlackJesus8463 Рік тому

    Intel is more expensive and uses 50% more energy for 5% more performance though! I'm not going to buy a new CPU because it has 20 extra threads I'll never use either.

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 Рік тому

      I see Intel as price competitive in this generation. A lot of models are less expensive. I do agree that, in CPU intensive uses, they use a lot more energy but most of the time the cpu isn't being pushed and the energy they use is the same or less than AMD. This is coming from someone who only bought AMD, during the AM4 era.

  • @CannedMarmalade
    @CannedMarmalade Рік тому +1

    At least fix your punctuation error 😂

  • @rossgarner58
    @rossgarner58 Рік тому

    I run my Ryzen 9 5900x stock which is rated at 4.8hgz max but 6 cores reach 4.950ghz. Some free performance which i must be honest i can't fucking notice.

  • @toonarmy8524
    @toonarmy8524 Рік тому

    No.

  • @mikebruzzone9570
    @mikebruzzone9570 Рік тому

    mb

  • @NeVErseeNMeLikEDis
    @NeVErseeNMeLikEDis Рік тому

    This guy confuses himself so much

  • @fastmover45
    @fastmover45 Рік тому

    Another video not worth watching only skippin through. Paul pull ya socks up !

  • @jjlw2378
    @jjlw2378 Рік тому

    AMD needs X3D to compete with Intel in gaming. I like my CPUs to do everything well, not be a 1 trick pony that won't age well. Intel CPUs are just more fun!

    • @tstager1978
      @tstager1978 Рік тому +4

      BS. The plain 7950x is neck and neck with 13900k while using a lot less energy.

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 Рік тому

      @tstager1978 I'm sorry, friend, but you are terribly misinformed. 7950x is on par with a 12900k but is 15%+ slower than a 13900k. A tuned 13900k will increase that margin by another 10%+. Even 7950x3d/7800x3d are only ~3% faster than a stock 13900k and tend to fall behind in heavy RayTracing games and games that prefer lower latency, high bandwidth memory, or clockspeed. Intel CPUs have always been superior for gaming. ArrowLake will be interesting to see if Intel can maintain that trend when using chiplets.

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 Рік тому

      @@jjlw2378 Bruh they literally use 50% more power for 5% more performance.

    • @jjlw2378
      @jjlw2378 Рік тому

      @proprietarycurez8463 So you mean using 70w for gaming on an overclocked 13900k is too much power for you? My 13900k uses between 60-90w while gaming. 5.8p/4.5e/5.0ring

    • @tstager1978
      @tstager1978 Рік тому

      @@jjlw2378 OK buddy. We believe you.

  • @blueeyednick
    @blueeyednick Рік тому +2

    please fix title

  • @blueeyednick
    @blueeyednick Рік тому

    So basically half the whole video you summarized chip release history from zen 1. Very unnecessary.

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 Рік тому

      So basically you just summarized half the video. Very unnecessary.

  • @malikgod
    @malikgod Рік тому

    whatever they offer their competition will slaughter for $50 to $100 extra. AMD is washed 😢 🪦⚰️💐! unless they cut all their prices in half.

    • @tstager1978
      @tstager1978 Рік тому +2

      Ok. AMD chips don't get bogged down by desktop work. AMD makes a better chip right now unless your an Intel fanboy. Arrow lake may be a different story but it will be up against zen 6 so we'll see.

    • @malikgod
      @malikgod Рік тому

      @@tstager1978 you see the guy in this video, now he's one of the top AMD shills! and even he says Intel is faster. also Nvidia is faster. Nvidia beats amd in every single aspect of gaming, and production. I buy amd because of it's price to performance. now their prices are just as expensive as the competition, leaving no reason to invest in their eco system

    • @BlackJesus8463
      @BlackJesus8463 Рік тому +1

      @@malikgod Bruh you can get a 7800X3D for $350 that beats a $500+ Intel in actual games. Nobody cares about your synthetic bs.

    • @malikgod
      @malikgod Рік тому

      @@BlackJesus8463 I have a 7900

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 Рік тому

      LMFAO ! After Zen-6 it will be ALL GAME OVER for Intel !!!
      Intel = an JOKE !