Jazz embouchure vs. classical embouchure the Saxophone Factory

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Jay from @bettersax shared his thoughts on this debate but as much as I like Jay I thought of this. I used Two mouthpieces, the first is a Meyer 5M, pretty middle of the road mouthpiece. The second mouthpiece is a Sigurd Rascher concert mouthpiece. I use R Dark Ligature. I should have changed reeds but I didn't want too many changes to the setups. My horn is a Yamaha 52. Help support the channel - Help support the channel - www.buymeacoff...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 28

  • @baddognobiscuit2
    @baddognobiscuit2 2 місяці тому

    Love the sound of that second mouthpiece

  • @loweray6528
    @loweray6528 4 роки тому +41

    There's a CONSIDERABLE difference in tone haha, the 2nd mouthpiece was much more dark and focused

    • @gking3723
      @gking3723 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @victormanuelgarciagracida6677
      @victormanuelgarciagracida6677 3 роки тому +10

      When he said: No difference... He referred to the embouchure... Te sound changes because of the mouthpiece

    • @osbourneburnett184
      @osbourneburnett184 Рік тому

      The second mouthpiece is so much darker and sweeter. Ideal for classical music. Huge difference.

    • @osbourneburnett184
      @osbourneburnett184 Рік тому +1

      Massive difference.

    • @w2tty
      @w2tty 6 місяців тому +3

      @@victormanuelgarciagracida6677 yes, that is how I understand what he is saying as well. Judging by the other comments, I think other people are understanding something different. The title of the video makes it confusing because it states two different embouchures, but the content is about the same embouchure across two different mouthpieces.

  • @jonahtinfow9299
    @jonahtinfow9299 3 роки тому +20

    Is it just me or was there a HUGE difference

    • @SaxophoneFactory
      @SaxophoneFactory  3 роки тому +8

      There was a change when I changed mouthpieces. The embouchure stayed the same.

    • @SaxWithShad
      @SaxWithShad 3 роки тому +3

      Huge difference in sound between those mouthpieces, like night and day

    • @SaxophoneFactory
      @SaxophoneFactory  3 роки тому +5

      It was the mouthpiece not the embouchure.

    • @cici-mama
      @cici-mama 4 місяці тому

      The difference is definitely the mouthpiece. Embochure IS the same!

  • @vivianastridge2167
    @vivianastridge2167 11 місяців тому +1

    Is there a no nonsense tutorial detailing the production of the jazz subtone? I sure would like to have this.

  • @gadget502000
    @gadget502000 4 роки тому +6

    Hello ! I’m a classical saxophonist transitioning to jazz, and From what I saw from de video, I felt that the difference was with how much air (and maybe openness of the throat) you add in your cheeks when you play the jazz embouchure, something that is strictly forbidden in classical Sax :)

    • @joethomas7841
      @joethomas7841 4 роки тому +2

      gadget502000 hey man if you actually wanna get good at jazz this is not the way. Hit me up @tosephjhomas on Instagram

  • @septimiu2007
    @septimiu2007 11 днів тому

    I am not professional just want to ask I play alto Yamaha 5c then 6c and then Myers 5mm but Myers squiq on that Palm note if you not exat precise

  • @AndSendMe
    @AndSendMe 2 роки тому +3

    The sax world has no uniformity. What little continuous tradition there is is mostly based on people who more or less invented saxophone technique just a few generations ago. The only safe road is to find a teacher with a great reputation as a teacher, whose students have great reputations as players, and learn from that teacher. There is no tradition to rely upon, and no guarantee that a good player will be a good teacher. It's a jungle out there. For insights into classical embouchure read Teal, Ray Smith, Mark Watkins, and John Harle. Yeah Allard was da bomb and he is often misrepresented but just looking at all the great classical players you can see that they are not treating the corners the way he taught.

  • @xavierperez3368
    @xavierperez3368 3 роки тому +2

    Huge difference...

  • @barendscholtus1786
    @barendscholtus1786 4 роки тому +4

    I feel like an alien listening to humans battling over how American apples are *totally* different from New Zealand apples, I'm just looking at those apples, same shape, same color, same size, really wtf are they talking about. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    (expecting to get my first saxophone in 6 days, can't wait!!!)

  • @SaxandRelax
    @SaxandRelax 4 роки тому +5

    You look jolly and depressed at the same time

  • @joethomas7841
    @joethomas7841 4 роки тому +6

    I feel sorry for whoever thinks any of this is true because it’s not. You used the same embouchure for 2 different mouthpieces and got 2 different sounds.
    I can’t speak for classical saxophone, but I know both of them were not jazz sounds by any means. Your jazz sound is tacky and scoopy. You need to listen to more Kenny Garrett and Dick Oatts, and stop wearing the UA-cam educator hat like you know what you’re talking about

    • @RIPKobe-yc8gd
      @RIPKobe-yc8gd 4 роки тому

      Could you help me with jazz sound?

    • @joethomas7841
      @joethomas7841 4 роки тому

      R.I.P. Kobe yeah, hit me up on insta. @tosephjhomas

    • @brayanswalletz5931
      @brayanswalletz5931 3 роки тому +1

      Joe Thomas I also hit you up, my insta is brayanezcobedo

    • @Trizno
      @Trizno 3 роки тому

      100% agree with you on the Kenny Garrett and Duck Oats part

    • @lucaeiholzer1567
      @lucaeiholzer1567 3 роки тому +1

      I can speak for classical saxophone and is not even classical...